Re: More on progressive collapse at WTC.

2006-07-04 Thread Andrew Paul
Charlie Bell wrote: This chap has done some research and found a few cases of progressive collapse in steel-frame high-rise buildings. http://911myths.com/html/progressive_collapse.html While none of these perfectly replicate the conditions at the WTC, they do show that once the load exceeds

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-07-04 Thread Andrew Paul
Dan Minette wrote: Thanks for this Dan, some comments below: That's not really accurate. To believe this theory one needs to accept that the physics of rigid objects can be counterintuitive at times. I'm not sure why this would be hard to accept. I gave one model of this, which didn't get

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-06-28 Thread Andrew Paul
Dan Minette wrote: So, it seems that we agree that the planes flying into the building are sufficient for the buildings to collapse. We also agree that the pattern of the collapse is consistent with rigorous structural analysis of the buildings. It is a very weird and unlikely concept, the

Re: SCOUTED: Garrison Keillor on San Franciscophobia

2006-06-15 Thread Andrew Paul
William T Goodall wrote: What's most surprising is that several of these aren't even words so it can't be spell checkers that are to blame. Eye halve a spelling chequer, It came with my pea sea, It plainly marques four my revue, Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a key and type a

RE: Raise the Cloak!

2006-05-28 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Deborah Harrell Nick Lidser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unveiling the invisible cloak No such cloak exists yet... Ah, but a fur coat does! As everyone knows, the hair of unicorns has just those special properties which bends EM energy around them, thus rendering them

RE: Scientific methodology

2006-05-11 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/11/2006 11:45:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think Zimmy was saying that, since the physics indicates that the power from mobile phones is not sufficient to affect the brain, he has a heightened skepticism

RE: Myers-Briggs

2006-05-10 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Alberto Monteiro Dan Minette wrote: As recently as 25 years ago, Marxist thought predominated in European, South American, and South Asian universities (in things like econ, liberal arts, sociology) and was common in the US. It is now considered fairly well discredited. But

RE: *-ism (was: Myers-Briggs)

2006-05-10 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Klaus Stock Who discredited Marxism? Communism :-) It's out of favour for sure, but when was the official accreditation lost? 1989, the collapse of the Berlin Wall. Did it discredit Marxism, or did it just discredit centrally planned economy? Or did it just

RE: Online games

2006-05-09 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Alberto Monteiro Nick Lidster asked: Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that you all play online. Diplomacy :-) You reminded me, used to love Diplomacy. And bugger

RE: The Culture (was Re: Xbox 360)

2006-05-08 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Julia Thompson Oh, that's fine, I just felt like being pedantic and mildly useful all at once. I appreciate your giving me the opportunity to be so. :D Julia who once could recite a German translation of the first verse of Jabberwocky and did so ad nauseum Umm, ok,

RE: Myers-Briggs

2006-05-08 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Charlie Bell Thus, prior to the invention of scientific methods, nobody knew anything. It must have been a weird, weird world. The scientific method boils down to trial and error, repeat what works. Without that, and the ability to remember the errors, nobody *did* know

RE: Brin: BASIC

2006-05-08 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Warren Ockrassa BTW, I feel I need to apologize for my unnecessary and rather stupid comment yesterday. I'm not usually that thoughtless. Sorry, all. I, for one, Welcome the return of your stupid and unnecessary comments. Which one was it anyway Maru

RE: Online games

2006-05-08 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Dave Land Let's see if we can smoke one out, shall we: God is real. Which One? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Liberal Capitalist Fundamentalism

2006-04-15 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Minette So, I'm really curious. How does networking form the basis for a new paradigm that is so clearly correct, that those who look at things in the more traditional way are fundamentalists? Does the correctness or

RE: Semi-OTC Lasers

2006-03-25 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Robert G. Seeberger http://wickedlasers.com/ For the last few months you have been able to buy lasers that could pop balloons, melt trash bags, cut electrical tape, and melt through plastic. It is a fairly interesting advance in materials science that allows consumers to do such

RE: Fear the Future: MSN: National Bank of Wal-Mart?

2006-02-17 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Dave Land Subject: Fear the Future: MSN: National Bank of Wal-Mart? Folks, I know very little about the responsibility of Liz Pulliam Weston or MSN, so the story could be shot through with biases and inaccuracies, but, here's a piece describing how the world's most voracious

RE: Cold Pictures

2006-02-17 Thread Andrew Paul
From Nick Arnett Subject: Re: Cold Pictures What sort of work takes one to Mongolia? Consulting geology, I am doing a model and report for an exploration project here in the Gobi. On 2/16/06, Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally got around to setting up a Flickr account

RE: Cold Pictures

2006-02-17 Thread Andrew Paul
. I've been a fascinated with them since. Yea, they are pretty cool. Err, warm.. Andrew How is everyone? Any other sleepers out there care to check in? Amities, Jo Anne Message: 6 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 02:26:54 +1100 From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cold

RE: Cold Pictures

2006-02-17 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Russell Chapman Subject: Re: Cold Pictures Andrew Paul wrote: Finally got around to setting up a Flickr account, largely cos I have some pics of where I am currently working in Mongolia, thought you may be interested, esp Debbie as there is a pic of some very cute Mongolian

Cold Pictures

2006-02-16 Thread Andrew Paul
Finally got around to setting up a Flickr account, largely cos I have some pics of where I am currently working in Mongolia, thought you may be interested, esp Debbie as there is a pic of some very cute Mongolian horses grazing on the Gobi (There are no fences, and was a troop of about 20, but I

RE: Question for Aussies

2006-01-31 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Julia Thompson Subject: Re: Question for Aussies Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On 1/31/06, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the usual ingredients in a meat pie? AFOAA (a friend of an acquaintance) has opened up a restaurant in Austin selling Australian-style

RE: Question for Aussies

2006-01-31 Thread Andrew Paul
From: William T Goodall On 1 Feb 2006, at 1:53 am, Andrew Paul wrote: Lamb pies being a personal fave, AKA a Scotch Pie. -- Aussie Meat Pie Filling: 1 1/2 pounds round steak, cut into 1/2-inch cubes Scotch Pie Filling: 1 pound (500g or two cups) lean lamb, minced (ground

RE: What some women have always known . . .

2006-01-26 Thread Andrew Paul
Julia Thompson Subject: Re: What some women have always known . . . Deborah Harrell wrote: Wasn't an article posted some time back about human females selecting for humor in their mates, as a possible driving force for larger brain capacity? Or was that in one of Himself's

RE: Technique

2006-01-17 Thread Andrew Paul
Dan Minette Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2006 1:03 PM snip Given that, it's unlikely for a politician to say the Constitution is just a piece of paper. It's much more likely that they would say that's not what it means even if it is clear to everyone else that's what it means.

RE: Nuclear Iran

2006-01-17 Thread Andrew Paul
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Minette Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2006 1:21 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Nuclear Iran - Original Message - From: Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs

RE: Technique

2006-01-17 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Dan Minette Given that, it's unlikely for a politician to say the Constitution is just a piece of paper. It's much more likely that they would say that's not what it means even if it is clear to everyone else that's what it means. Dan, I find your optimism and faith

RE: Nuclear Iran

2006-01-17 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Robert Seeberger Sent: Monday, 16 January 2006 11:33 AM It may be that the ease with which the US swatted Iraq down surprised much of the developing world (especially after the fiasco in Sudan and other similar events where the US was attacked) and the idea that the US was a

RE: Nuclear Iran

2006-01-17 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Dan Minette Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2006 2:39 PM The Security Council was the five major powers of the Allies after WWII. France was in there as a gift from the US. At the time, only the US had nuclear weapons. Also, at that time, the only significant military

Nuclear Iran

2006-01-14 Thread Andrew Paul
So does Iran have the right to pursue nuclear research or not? http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200601/s1547674.htm If it is purely peaceful? If it isn't? Gunrights Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Merry Chrismakwanzahanayule!

2005-12-28 Thread Andrew Paul
On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell kerri miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To celebrate the season, I made this. Dig in, there's plenty to share! http://www.livejournal.com/users/kerrizor/374310.html You made me snort-laugh in the library! Gonna have to pass this on to some

RE: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-28 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stores are ecconomic entities. Forcing people to buy from less efficent stores is an ecconomic decision. What other factors, that are not tied to jobs, prices, income, etc. are you thinking of? I know

RE: Help me identify 80's cop show...

2005-12-12 Thread Andrew Paul
On Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2005 1:49 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Help me identify 80's cop show... At 04:55 PM Monday 12/12/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: Gary Nunn wrote: I apologize if I have asked this here before, but for several years I

World Oil Prices (was RE: Bitter Fruit)

2005-12-11 Thread Andrew Paul
On a slightly related note. Petrol in nearly all of the OECD countries is very much more expensive than it is in the US. (generally over $US3/gallon). In all the major European countries, it as least twice the US price, in some like the UK and Sweden, it is more like 2.5 times the price i.e.

RE: 'The invasion of Iraq was a bandit act, an act of blatant state terrorism, '

2005-12-10 Thread Andrew Paul
On Behalf Of Dave Land Folks, Last night, I invested 45 minutes in watching Mr. Pinter's speech. It was stunning. Not so much the production (although the three- camera setup with a deep-blue backdrop and a large photograph of a younger Pinter was used well enough) but the man, his

RE: RepubliKlan Amerika:Valtrex

2005-12-06 Thread Andrew Paul
From Julia Thompson He probably *is* serious. (If Andrew could provide the URL I might be able to check out the site and get a better idea of whether or not it's serious or satire.) There's lots of awful stuff being said and done in the name of Christianity.

Defeat in Victory

2005-12-04 Thread Andrew Paul
I hate how terrorism and the war in Iraq have come to dominate debate so. I notice that Gautam and JDG rarely post these days, and there is no-one to staunchly dispute the centrist viewpoints we all seem to espouse (Dan excepted). There is no right answer, we surely all know that, but the debate

RE: Defeat in Victory

2005-12-04 Thread Andrew Paul
On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 00:57:22 +1100, Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate how terrorism and the war in Iraq have come to dominate debate so. I notice that Gautam and JDG rarely post these days, and there is no-one to staunchly dispute the centrist

RE: Arab-Israel 1948, 1967 1973 wars

2005-11-29 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Dan Minette From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am to young to recall the politics and events of that time. As you paint it, a defacto state of war existed anyway, in which case it was not really a pre-emptive strike. Troops were being moved into an agreed de-militarized zone

RE: Arab-Israel 1948, 1967 1973 wars

2005-11-29 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Dan Minette From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fine, I wont quibble about definitions. Its actually interesting, that some may call things like the war on Iraq, a pre-emptive strike when in reality it is a war of aggression. It certainly isn't a typical war

RE: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-29 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Warren Ockrassa Probably I'm confusing correlation with causation again. It does happen to me from time to time. Maybe a better formulation is that those who are vicious, money-grubbing bastard Republicans who weep crocodile tears *after* getting caught (as opposed to those who

RE: Bitter Fruit

2005-11-28 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Dan Minette From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Dan Minette Would this be a general rule for the US being engaged in a war? That we only use our military against countries that pose a direct threat to harm the US? I would like to think it went further than that. I

RE: Bitter Fruit

2005-11-21 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Dan Minette Would this be a general rule for the US being engaged in a war? That we only use our military against countries that pose a direct threat to harm the US? I would like to think it went further than that. I don't think democracies should start wars at all. And what

RE: SCOUTED: MIT: On the Effectiveness of Aluminium Foil Helmets: AnEmpirical Study

2005-11-18 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Land Oh, well, at least this: http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/ Site is slightly SlashDotted, but not from Slashdot, but from Digg (www.digg.com). From the site: Among a fringe community of

RE: Human generations and technological innovation

2005-09-29 Thread Andrew Paul
Robert J. Chassell wrote: Have new technological innovations required human generations to pass before powerful inventions became commonplace? Put another way, do people have to become really used to an innovation before it can be made powerful? My thesis here is that since the beginning

RE: Adventures In Evacuation

2005-09-22 Thread Andrew Paul
Behalf Of Rob Seeberger Sent: Friday, 23 September 2005 10:17 AM To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Adventures In Evacuation Howdy Folks! I'm writting you from the second floor of St Josephs Hospital in beautiful Downtown Houston. This morning at 3 AM I began getting ready to leave my

RE: FOUR YEARS DRUNK

2005-09-22 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger Subject: Re: FOUR YEARS DRUNK Great stuff, Pat, thanks for that! Doug Yes, Seconded. I liked it a lot Andrew ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-14 Thread Andrew Paul
Leonard Matusik wrote Here's the real title of Darwins book, The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or ThePreservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life (lol, what a pompous 19century dweeb!) Strangely unable to locate the title of your paradigm shifting work of

RE: Evil religious sects

2005-09-13 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of William T Goodall Presently the Catholic terrorists blow stuff up so they can be separated from the UK and the Protestant terrorists blow stuff up so they can remain part of the UK. It's impossible to please both sects

RE: Brave New Genetic Frontiers

2005-09-13 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Leonard Matusik A most excellent point, Warren! (the whole heart of the matter to my mind) The phenomena of evolution is sufficiently complex and so insufficiently understood, that Darwinism had no business strutting around calling itself science for a

RE: Computer accessory review

2005-09-08 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship Sent: Friday, 9 September 2005 8:32 AM To: Brin-L Subject: Computer accessory review http://www.dansdata.com/kitten.htm -- Ronn! :) Thanks, Morning Chuckle Maru

RE: Irregulars Question: Excel suckz

2005-08-25 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro (1) is there any way to mix lines and columns in a graphic? (2) is there any intelligent way to plot only meaningful values? For example, if I am plotting densities (A1:A10 is volume, B1:B10 is mass, C1:C10

RE: Physics question

2005-08-21 Thread Andrew Paul
Behalf Of Maru Dubshinki On 8/22/05, Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, and thus there are places, where time is going faster, relative to earth... eg places going slower (as we are going rather fast). And is there a minimum and maximum speed of time? Andrew Well, assuming

RE: Physics question

2005-08-19 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On On Aug 18, 2005, at 9:06 PM, Andrew Paul wrote: All I know is it's a pretty damn funky concept. And now I am wondering if there is such a thing as a maximum speed for time. Yes, I know, that sounds really stupid, I guess that's cos

RE: Gee....

2005-08-19 Thread Andrew Paul
Behalf Of Ritu Julia Thompson wrote: Nobody's posted anything for almost 3 whole hours! :) I first took a 20 minute nap [the longest uninterrupted stretch of sleep in the last 24 hours], then I had to go the doctor's, and then I was busy calming the screaming munchkins. So didn't

RE: Physics question

2005-08-19 Thread Andrew Paul
Behalf Of Kevin Street Sent: Friday, 19 August 2005 6:04 PM To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' Subject: RE: Physics question Warren Ockrassa wrote: IIRC current models for spacetime hold that the maximum velocity you can have is lightspeed. As you accelerate along the space dimension, your

RE: Physics question

2005-08-19 Thread Andrew Paul
Warren Ockrassa wrote: IIRC current models for spacetime hold that the maximum velocity you can have is lightspeed. As you accelerate along the space dimension, your motion in time slows; if you're fully at rest, your motion through time is at lightspeed. Yikes. Yikes

RE: Mindless and Heartless

2005-08-18 Thread Andrew Paul
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/16/2005 10:36:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't see this as a statement necessarily directed against Jews, and I think people are reading a lot of stuff between the lines that may not be there. But it is an

RE: Mindless and Heartless

2005-08-18 Thread Andrew Paul
Behalf Of Warren Ockrassa Sent: Friday, 19 August 2005 6:14 AM On Aug 18, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Dan Minette wrote: I've gone from disappointed in this discussion to disgusted -- so much so that I'm bordering on willingness to do what I've done about five times in my decade-plus history

RE: Mindless and Heartless

2005-08-18 Thread Andrew Paul
Behalf Of Dave Land Sent: Friday, 19 August 2005 5:20 AM On Aug 17, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Andrew Paul wrote: I asked a serious question. You are drawing a very long bow there, and well, it's a little insulting. Sure, there are anti-Semites out there, plenty of them.. Give us the benefit

RE: Gee....

2005-08-18 Thread Andrew Paul
Behalf Of Julia Thompson Sent: Friday, 19 August 2005 1:41 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Gee Nobody's posted anything for almost 3 whole hours! :) Julia The Eye of the Hurricane? Andrew ___

RE: Physics question

2005-08-17 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Ockrassa On Aug 16, 2005, at 10:51 PM, Andrew Paul wrote: [Robert, I believe] And for an object to have absolute zero momentum in a relativistic universe the entire universe and every object in it would also have

RE: Extreme Plants...for Mars?

2005-08-17 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Street Maybe little chip size radio transmitters could be buried with each plant. They say that houseplants grow better when Beethoven is played, but what composer would be best suited for Mars? I would suggest

RE: Mindless and Heartless

2005-08-17 Thread Andrew Paul
I just read all of Zimmy's posts in this thread and couldn't find any statement which could be construed to mean that the only reason Perle and Wolfie get attention/are known to people is because they are Jews. So, yes, I would like if you could point out the relevant portions of his

RE: Extreme Plants...for Mars?

2005-08-16 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell snip Ta, that is an area that interests me too Debbi who is experimenting with herbs at altitude, having discovered already that tomatoes don't do well Certain herbs grow way better at altitude, as the

RE: Death in the family

2005-08-16 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julia Thompson Subject: Re: Death in the family My father-in-law died this afternoon. Hugs to you and your husband Andrew ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Mindless and Heartless

2005-08-16 Thread Andrew Paul
quote from Cindy Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this

RE: Physics question

2005-08-16 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Seeberger At very cold temps some kinds of molecular bonds become very weak and if the displacement transmission is in any way turbulentthe craft just might disintegrate. Good try, but that's not it. But is my

RE: Physics question

2005-08-15 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Warren Ockrassa On Aug 12, 2005, at 12:38 PM, The Fool wrote: If you could overcome the effects of gravity and slow an object's (such as a space probe's) absolute velocity to very close to but not quite zero, would the uncertanty principle cause the

RE: Molester allowed to go on vacation before jail...

2005-08-08 Thread Andrew Paul
Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship Pesonally, I think that the sentences for molestation/pedophillia etc. are entirely too light. Time and again we end up with these creeps back on the street not only molesting again but raping and killing their victims - like the guy in Idaho a few weeks a

RE: Are you in the right religion?

2005-08-03 Thread Andrew Paul
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell http://beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html I got (1-9 don't surprise me much): 1. Unitarian Universalism (100%) 2. Liberal Quakers (94%) 3. Secular Humanism (92%) 4. Theravada Buddhism (88%) 5. Mainline to

RE: It's a boy!

2005-07-27 Thread Andrew Paul
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Sloan Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2005 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brin-L Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: It's a boy! Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: Great news, everyone! Earlier

RE: Religion and social capital

2005-06-25 Thread Andrew Paul
Warren Ockrassa wrote On 23 Jun 2005, at 10:06 pm, Frank Schmidt wrote: Questions to William: What is it that makes something evil? What is it that makes something good? Why, don't you know? It's an interesting pair of questions, and I notice you've carefully avoided trying to answer

RE: Sauron is watching you from space

2005-06-25 Thread Andrew Paul
Jim Sharkey wrote http://www.newscientistspace.com/article.ns?id=dn7564 Pretty nifty, I thought. Jim Damn tooting it is, You gotta love that God guy :) Andrew * NOTE: An attachment named winmail.dat was deleted from this message because it contained a windows executableor other

RE: What Is Your Worldview?

2005-06-06 Thread Andrew Paul
On Behalf Of Gary Denton On 6/3/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 2, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Dave Land wrote: If you don't mind giving your email address to a bunch of biblical literalists, you could try another worldview quiz at:

RE: Brin: Re: appealing to old style conservatives

2005-05-25 Thread Andrew Paul
David Brin wrote --- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Brin wrote: No, there are only two words on the table for such people. Stupid. Or Disloyal. I lean toward both. You left out greedy. There's not a whole lot of money to be made in the renewables

RE: Just for the record...

2005-05-18 Thread Andrew Paul
Warren Ockrassa wrote On May 18, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: You know, some bathroom time and a Playboy magazine (or a Playgirl, depending on your personal preferences) will probably take care of some of that pent up frustration Playgirl's draw is more for women, I think.

RE: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-05-16 Thread Andrew Paul
JDG wrote: At 11:27 PM 5/11/2005 +1000, Andrew Paul wrote: Are you of the opinion that American Foreign Policy is always led by selfless morality, or are there times when they too stoop to the level of the scummy French or the sneaky, dirty Germans, and do things where the self interest

RE: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-05-16 Thread Andrew Paul
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam, why is it that only other countries have self-interested agendas? Is it possible that now and then, America does too? I think it is, and that's why I think it is worthwhile getting a second opinion

RE: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-05-11 Thread Andrew Paul
JDG wrote . Yeah, but his argument didn't make any sense, because it was just a wholesale abrogation of moral judgment to other people - people who have an interest in acting in an immoral fashion. All of the arguments you and he make _completely ignore_ that fact. We have many, many

RE: Gay men respond like women to pheromones

2005-05-10 Thread Andrew Paul
Ronn!Blankenship quoted: snip Researchers interpreted that to mean that humans, as they evolved to rel on sight more than smell, had no need of the primitive cues that pass for sexual attractiveness in mice. But a role for human pheromones could not be ruled out, especially in light of

RE: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-05-10 Thread Andrew Paul
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Nick (I think) noted already, a 'moral imperative' should be essentially unimpeachable, because it is a softer reason than, say, the other guy has missiles pointed at your capital. Yeah, but his argument didn't

RE: Permission Slips Re: blah, blah, blah . . .

2005-05-06 Thread Andrew Paul
From William T Goodall On 6 May 2005, at 3:19 am, Dave Land wrote: WTG: No, they aren't actually. There is no God is a rational claim based on evidence. There is a God is a statement of faith made in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Do you have evidence of the

RE: anti modernism blog continues.

2005-05-03 Thread Andrew Paul
Warren Ockrassa wrote On May 2, 2005, at 11:30 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Khadafy, Qadaffi, Gadafhy Maru You say Khadafy and I say Qadaffi You say Al Koran and I say al-Q'ran Jihad, Fatwah, Meatwad, Frylock Let's call the crusades off... LOL, Well Warren, if the book selling business stays

RE: TV Guide

2005-05-03 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Julia Thompson Dave Land wrote: Yo, Far from the Cereal Aisle, is the computer department, where you can find the Alienware Aurora Star Wars Edition PCs, available in Dark Side (Darth Vader) and Light Side (Obi Wan Kenobi) versions:

RE: Abortion Cost-Benefit Analysis

2005-04-26 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Nick Arnett On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:10:42 -0500, Dan Minette wrote Don't you remember them pushing to take Medicaid money out of Bush's budget in order to pay for additional farm subsidies? Unless we're farming babies, I can't figure out how this is relevant...? Its relevant cos it

RE: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3

2005-04-22 Thread Andrew Paul
Dan Minette wrote From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poor George, no wonder he looks tired, tossing all night, crying over the starving Koreans kiddies etc... What I don't understand is, given that I'm pretty sure I already mentioned this to you in an earlier discussion, why you

World Government was RE: more neocons

2005-04-22 Thread Andrew Paul
Ronn!Blankenship At 08:05 AM Thursday 4/21/2005, Andrew Paul wrote: [...] I, like you I think, await a world government, where the need for national armies, and thus the need for protection agianst this sort of problem, becomes irrelevant. What kind of world government would you

RE: Peaceful Change L3

2005-04-22 Thread Andrew Paul
OK, I'm done arguing with you Nick I for one am in favour of changing the subject. As you said Gautam, we are just going over lots of old ground here. We agree to differ. And I retract any remarks which you found offensive. I did not intend them to be so, and I don't think Nick et al did

RE: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3

2005-04-22 Thread Andrew Paul
JDG wrote At 01:34 PM 4/22/2005 +1000, Andrew Paul wrote: Dan, it was a rhetorical question. I know why he isn't, and frankly very glad he isn't. But thank you for the refresher. I must learn to put more umm, nuance in my typing tone. It clearly wasn't a very good rhetorical question

RE: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-04-21 Thread Andrew Paul
Erik Reuter wrote * Dan Minette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It seems paradoxical, if Africa has starvation, why sell food. But, the It does seem odd. But what if most poor countries are net importers of food? The subsidies obviously hurt the food exporters, since subsidies depress prices, but

RE: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3

2005-04-21 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of JDG snips fair response And why isn't the US invading North Korea? Why is it, as you put it doing nothing? The calculation has to include the probability of success. While doing nothing' in the DPRK is clearly resulting in the deaths of North Koreans, the

RE: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-04-21 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Erik Reuter * Andrew Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: While I am not a supporter per say of tarrifs and subsidies, what about the strategic issue of a country being able to feed itself in times of strife. Too indirect. If you are worried about war

RE: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-04-21 Thread Andrew Paul
Erik Reuter wrote * Andrew Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Surely it always going to be relative? You will need to explain this more, I was pretty clear before, and you twisted what I said to try to make it look like I was saying something that supported your worldview. You've made

RE: Peaceful Change L3

2005-04-21 Thread Andrew Paul
Gautam Mukunda --- Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Mukunda So Gautam, are you saying that the US invaded Iraq out of a deeply felt need to save the Iraqi people? Not cos of WMD risks, not cos of issues over oil? Again with this? Why are people who think _George

RE: France supports unilateralism, preventive war

2005-04-21 Thread Andrew Paul
Gautam Mukunda wrote Subject: France supports unilateralism, preventive war The amazing thing about this article is how _blatant_ it is. http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1559253,00.html That's pretty sad isn't it. Nice find :) I can't see in his words where he actually says he

RE: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3

2005-04-21 Thread Andrew Paul
Dan Minette From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3 And why isn't the US invading North Korea? Why is it, as you put it doing nothing? As JDG said, the answer to that is fairly straightforward. South Korea begged Clinton

RE: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-04-21 Thread Andrew Paul
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 12:14 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Br!n: Re: more neocons At 08:05 AM Thursday 4/21/2005, Andrew Paul wrote: [...] I, like you I think

RE: Peaceful Change L3

2005-04-20 Thread Andrew Paul
Gautam Mukunda So yes, I acknowledge that you've spoken to lots of soldiers have suffered. Have you spoken to Iraqis who, say, saw their children raped and tortured in front of them as a routine method of interrogation? How about ones whose hands, ears, or tongues were chopped off

RE: Democracy in Iraq Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments)

2005-04-11 Thread Andrew Paul
JDG wrote: Sent: Sunday, 10 April 2005 7:20 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Democracy in Iraq Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments) At 04:17 PM 4/7/2005 -0700, Nick wrote: On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:01:52 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote It means that there

RE: Black holes 'do not exist'

2005-04-11 Thread Andrew Paul
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] It didn't seem to me that Event horizons were so much abandoned as redefined and re-explained. The important question for me is still how time is regarded in QM and GR. If the author of the paper is making an incorrect statement, why would it be

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