Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-03 Thread Bryon Daly
Some questions/comments: d.brin wrote: Baloney. We needed one thing. Basra. We needed to go in there with sudden, overwhelming force and free the people quickly, so they would be seen worldwide cheering us in the streets. Do you really think we could have been *sure* of taking Basra that

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-03 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think charging to Bagdad was all that stupid an idea, and in fact, I think it was rather clever. The benefits I see of going straight for Bagdad: -Bryon So far, I'd have to say that they will be studying this plan in textbooks. But part of

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:45 AM 4/2/2003 +0100 Andrew Crystall wrote: To try and answer your question, I see the US as being the preeminent superpower for at least the next 100 years. *raises an eyebrow* I give you less than 20 to crash and burn. In spectacular fashion. I'll bet cash. I've got $100 2003 US

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 7:06, John D. Giorgis wrote: The idea is absurd even 50 or 40 years from now. At the rate China is growing, we should be ready for trouble in 15. I don;t know what economic projections you are using, but even assuming that China's official growth figures are accurate

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I give you less than 20 to crash and burn. In spectacular fashion. I'll bet cash. Andy Taken. How much, and what are the conditions? I never turn down free money. Gautam __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo!

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:06 AM Subject: Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings At 06:45 AM 4/2/2003 +0100 Andrew Crystall wrote: To try and answer your

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Julia Thompson
John D. Giorgis wrote: At 06:45 AM 4/2/2003 +0100 Andrew Crystall wrote: To try and answer your question, I see the US as being the preeminent superpower for at least the next 100 years. *raises an eyebrow* I give you less than 20 to crash and burn. In spectacular fashion. I'll bet

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread TomFODW
They don't need to match the USA 1:1 for GDP either...just production where it counts (military, etc.) - they'll be prefectly willing to sacrifice civilian standards of life for tactical advantage. They'll be perfectly willing to TRY. I'm not sure they'll be able to get away with it for

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 13:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't need to match the USA 1:1 for GDP either...just production where it counts (military, etc.) - they'll be prefectly willing to sacrifice civilian standards of life for tactical advantage. They'll be perfectly willing to TRY.

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread d.brin
China turning expansionist should have no effect. China will definitely not be able to conquer the Republic of Korea nor Japan nor India nor Taiwan Utter silliness. Old fashioned conquest is the simpleminded scenario that one WOULD imagine, if one felt compelled to imagine the foe being

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Gautam wrote: --- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I give you less than 20 to crash and burn. In spectacular fashion. I'll bet cash. Andy Taken. How much, and what are the conditions? I never turn down free money. Same here - I'd be a fool not to help part a sucker from his

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 2 Apr 2003 at 17:40, Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: Gautam wrote: --- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I give you less than 20 to crash and burn. In spectacular fashion. I'll bet cash. Andy Taken. How much, and what are the conditions? I never turn down free money.

Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-02 Thread iaamoac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:06 AM Subject: Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-01 Thread John D. Giorgis
Dr. Brin: Glad to see you are doing well and thriving. though it is disappointing that you aren't supporting the liberation of perhaps one of the world's most oppressed peoples - the Iraqis. At 05:20 PM 4/1/2003 -0800 d.brin wrote: What the rightwing never, ever does is ask itself the sci

Re: Brin: Re: Peter Arnett has negative effect on ratings

2003-04-01 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 1 Apr 2003 at 22:58, John D. Giorgis wrote: Dr. Brin: Glad to see you are doing well and thriving. though it is disappointing that you aren't supporting the liberation of perhaps one of the world's most oppressed peoples - the Iraqis. At 05:20 PM 4/1/2003 -0800 d.brin wrote: