Re: Bush Administration suckered?

2004-03-10 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 07:33 AM 3/9/2004 -0800 Matt Grimaldi wrote: Has anyone considered that the U.S. wants to have the ability to project power in that region, and that the enironment for doing so from bases in Saudi Arabia is taking a turn for the worse. Regardless of how the Iraqi government shapes up, we will

Re: Bush Administration suckered?

2004-03-09 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Robert J. Chassell wrote: (snip) Presuming either that the US invaded Iraq in order to intimidate other Moslem countries, as I think, or to destroy dangerous weapons, or to enforce a mandatory UN resolution, or, as enemies of the Adminstration claim, in order to delay the pricing of oil

Re: Bush Administration suckered?

2004-03-01 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 01:08 AM 3/1/2004 + Robert J. Chassell wrote: A question at hand is whether Iran, ruled by Shi'ite Moslems, is gaining power amongst its co-religionists in Iraq? This strikes me as having vestiges of xenophobic racism. Shias are the majority religious denomination in Iraq. The US

Re: Bush Administration suckered?

2004-03-01 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:08 AM 3/1/2004 + Robert J. Chassell wrote: A question at hand is whether Iran, ruled by Shi'ite Moslems, is gaining power amongst its co-religionists in Iraq? This strikes me as having vestiges of xenophobic racism. Shias are

Re: Bush Administration suckered?

2004-03-01 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:00 PM 3/1/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: This fits your (JDG's) MO perfectly. Why not have a tyranny of the majority over the minorities? In fact why even give Sunni's, kurds or christians any rights at all? After all they are only minorities, and according you (JDG), any majority has the

Re: Bush Administration suckered?

2004-03-01 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] the Diseased Christian Mind wrote: This strikes me as having vestiges of xenophobic racism. Shias are the majority religious denomination in Iraq. The US must consider a government dominated by Iraqi Shias to not necessarily be a

Re: Bush Administration suckered?

2004-02-29 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote The question is whether a year or more ago, he and/or the Iraqi National Council provided the US with `intelligence' that was designed to influence the US to act against Saddam Hussein's government and do so in a way that benefited

Re: Bush Administration suckered?

2004-02-29 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:00 PM 2/29/2004 + Robert J. Chassell wrote: This does tell us that Chalabi is happy and suggests that he did not mind whether the intelligence was accurate. While that is n degrees to cavalier. The world is better off today than it was one year ago today. We should make no apologies

Re: Bush Administration suckered?

2004-02-29 Thread Robert J. Chassell
I wrote the US looks at the moment to be gaining less than Iran has gained. This is the issue. and John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded I totally disagree: 1) The US has gained the peaceful strategic removal of its forces from Saudi Arabia That is true. However,

Re: Bush Administration suckered?

2004-02-29 Thread Robert J. Chassell
I wrote The analyses I have seen suggest that the US invaded Iraq in order to intimidate other Muslim countries and John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded 1) The DPRK is not a Muslim country. That is true, North Korea is not Muslem. Good point. If, as I think, the main

Bush Administration suckered?

2004-02-25 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Much of the intelligence used by the Bush Administration in planning its attack on Iraq came from Ahmad Chalabi and the Iraqi National Council. That information was wrong in various ways: * No nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons readily found during the most active part of the

Re: Bush Administration suckered?

2004-02-25 Thread The Fool
From: Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] The question is whether a year or more ago, he and/or the Iraqi National Council provided the US with `intelligence' that was designed to influence the US to act against Saddam Hussein's government and do so in a way that benefited Iran more than