Re: Honest terminology
On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:18 PM, David Hobby wrote: Seriously, if true, the rumor immediately disqualifies her. Not for lying, not for hypocrisy, but for being dumb enough to think she could get away with it. On that score, McCain would have to be disqualified as well, for thinking that he could choose someone like Palin and somehow escape half the civilized world looking her up in Wikipedia within the first 5-10 seconds and begin blogging within the next minute or so after that. My guess is that he felt he had to pick someone the dominionist far right would approve of, given that they have historically paid a lot of the bills for GOP campaigns and it's nearly impossible to get elected as a Republican without them, but made a calculated move to try to please both sides by choosing someone he thought would get in under the radar .. not realizing that there *is* no under the radar these days .. Bible's broken; contradictions, false logistics. Doesn't make sense. -- River Tam ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Alberto said: So you believe that the logic of capitalism should be used to decide on who lives or who dies? For example, think how many children's lives in Africa could be saved if we took all those infected with HIV, gassed them, burned their bodies (in an anthropothermic power plant - let's now waste biofuel!) and saved the money they bleed from HIV researches and treatment? Add those old people with cancer - why do those selfish bastards want to live a few more years? Kill them all and God will know his own? Rich VFP Albigensian Crusade ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 07:30 PM Saturday 8/30/2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 30 Aug 2008, at 23:53, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Jon Louis Mann wrote: Just think of how many children's' lives in Africa could be saved with the resources used to support the world's first surviving set of septuplets, born in Des Moines, Iowa to Kenny and Bobbi McCaughey. (...) So you believe that the logic of capitalism should be used to decide on who lives or who dies? For example, think how many children's lives in Africa could be saved if we took all those infected with HIV, gassed them, burned their bodies (in an anthropothermic power plant - let's now waste biofuel!) and saved the money they bleed from HIV researches and treatment? Add those old people with cancer - why do those selfish bastards want to live a few more years? atheism is evil, why it should be eradicated Maru Capitalism. That's what you started with and then you changed the subject for no reason. And as you know very well atheism isn't an ethical system and has nothing to say about right/wrong good/bad. It just says superstitious religion is false. It's a separate ethical matter that false is evil. Naughty Troll McCain just said on whatever Sunday morning show he's being interviewed on right now that those who have lost their sense of humor ought to turn off their computers and go outside and get a breath of fresh air. . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 31 Aug 2008, at 15:29, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: McCain just said on whatever Sunday morning show he's being interviewed on right now that those who have lost their sense of humor ought to turn off their computers and go outside and get a breath of fresh air. Everybody knows the proper way to indicate humour, sarcasm, irony and so forth is through the appropriate emoticons ;-) Running gag Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Due to a typographical error the entire arctic deployment had been issued Turkish pastries as headwear. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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McCain just said on whatever Sunday morning show he's being interviewed on right now that those who have lost their sense of humor ought to turn off their computers and go outside and get a breath of fresh air. So does that mean he intends Sarah Palin as a joke? Olin - Original Message - From: William T Goodallmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussionmailto:brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:13 AM Subject: Re: Honest terminology On 31 Aug 2008, at 15:29, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: McCain just said on whatever Sunday morning show he's being interviewed on right now that those who have lost their sense of humor ought to turn off their computers and go outside and get a breath of fresh air. Everybody knows the proper way to indicate humour, sarcasm, irony and so forth is through the appropriate emoticons ;-) Running gag Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.ukhttp://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk/ Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Due to a typographical error the entire arctic deployment had been issued Turkish pastries as headwear. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-lhttp://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 10:13 AM Sunday 8/31/2008, William T Goodall wrote: Running gag Maru I hope someone finally caught him and gave him the Heimlich maneuver. . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 31 Aug 2008, at 16:14, Olin Elliott wrote: McCain just said on whatever Sunday morning show he's being interviewed on right now that those who have lost their sense of humor ought to turn off their computers and go outside and get a breath of fresh air. So does that mean he intends Sarah Palin as a joke? The latest rumours about her are pretty funny %-} http://www.spartacuslives.org/node/20463 -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. - Richard Dawkins ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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William T Goodall wrote: ... So does that mean he intends Sarah Palin as a joke? The latest rumours about her are pretty funny %-} http://www.spartacuslives.org/node/20463 William-- That is interesting. One never knows, but those are a lot of pictures of her not showing as pregnant. So tell me, which would be better? To carry to term a seriously disabled child because her religion says she must? Or to promise her 16-year old daughter who is carrying the Down syndrome baby that she will take over and treat the baby as hers, leaving her daughter to get on with her life? Or whatever actually happened... Seriously, if true, the rumor immediately disqualifies her. Not for lying, not for hypocrisy, but for being dumb enough to think she could get away with it. ---David Five months out of school for Mono, Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 1 Sep 2008, at 01:18, David Hobby wrote: William T Goodall wrote: ... So does that mean he intends Sarah Palin as a joke? The latest rumours about her are pretty funny %-} http://www.spartacuslives.org/node/20463 William-- That is interesting. One never knows, but those are a lot of pictures of her not showing as pregnant. So tell me, which would be better? To carry to term a seriously disabled child because her religion says she must? Or to promise her 16-year old daughter who is carrying the Down syndrome baby that she will take over and treat the baby as hers, leaving her daughter to get on with her life? Or whatever actually happened... A friend of mine grew up thinking his mother was his sister and he had a lot of issues as a result. So I don't think it's a least harm approach to that problem anyway. Seriously, if true, the rumor immediately disqualifies her. Not for lying, not for hypocrisy, but for being dumb enough to think she could get away with it. If it's not true it's amusing payback for the Republican rumours that have 12% of Americans believing Obama is a Muslim :-) Dirty Tricks Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. - Richard Dawkins ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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William T Goodall wrote: On 1 Sep 2008, at 01:18, David Hobby wrote: ... Seriously, if true, the rumor immediately disqualifies her. Not for lying, not for hypocrisy, but for being dumb enough to think she could get away with it. If it's not true it's amusing payback for the Republican rumours that have 12% of Americans believing Obama is a Muslim :-) What! He's not? Then why is he named Osama? ---David This is a test, Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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She's a crazy person. With four kids already, and at an age when the risk of fetal abnormalities is massively escalated, she gets pregnant again and when the tests show it has Down Syndrome she doesn't abort. She's wealthy enough that the coping will be done by servants so her moral position won't inconvenience her political career (and boost it with other nutters) but it's a terrible, selfish, morally bankrupt example to set. William-- I truly admire the subtlety with which you troll. For those of us without moral absolutes that decide the issue, it is difficult to decide how disabled a child has to be so that it is better to kill it at a very young age and invest the resources elsewhere. (To use honest terminology.) Thank you for bringing this dilemma into focus. ---David Dying machines made of meat, Maru Just think of how many children's' lives in Africa could be saved with the resources used to support the world's first surviving set of septuplets, born in Des Moines, Iowa to Kenny and Bobbi McCaughey. The septuplets were conceived by this devoutly religious couple (who already had one child) as the result of fertility drugs. They declined selective reduction to reduce the number of infants, saying that they would put it in God's hands, but really so they could exploit setting a new record. At least some of the money from selling their story will be used for the children's' medical problems, including cerebral palsy and spinal surgery. Jon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jon Louis Mann wrote: Just think of how many children's' lives in Africa could be saved with the resources used to support the world's first surviving set of septuplets, born in Des Moines, Iowa to Kenny and Bobbi McCaughey. (...) So you believe that the logic of capitalism should be used to decide on who lives or who dies? For example, think how many children's lives in Africa could be saved if we took all those infected with HIV, gassed them, burned their bodies (in an anthropothermic power plant - let's now waste biofuel!) and saved the money they bleed from HIV researches and treatment? Add those old people with cancer - why do those selfish bastards want to live a few more years? atheism is evil, why it should be eradicated Maru Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 30 Aug 2008, at 23:53, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Jon Louis Mann wrote: Just think of how many children's' lives in Africa could be saved with the resources used to support the world's first surviving set of septuplets, born in Des Moines, Iowa to Kenny and Bobbi McCaughey. (...) So you believe that the logic of capitalism should be used to decide on who lives or who dies? For example, think how many children's lives in Africa could be saved if we took all those infected with HIV, gassed them, burned their bodies (in an anthropothermic power plant - let's now waste biofuel!) and saved the money they bleed from HIV researches and treatment? Add those old people with cancer - why do those selfish bastards want to live a few more years? atheism is evil, why it should be eradicated Maru Capitalism. That's what you started with and then you changed the subject for no reason. And as you know very well atheism isn't an ethical system and has nothing to say about right/wrong good/bad. It just says superstitious religion is false. It's a separate ethical matter that false is evil. Naughty Troll -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Theists cannot be trusted as they believe that right and wrong are the arbitrary proclamations of invisible demons. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
