Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-10-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Erik Reuter wrote: > >> Do those shows enhance a social stygma against a minority >> group, and does the targeted minority group feel offended >> by them? The answers are No and (meaningless). So, they >> can't be banned. > > So you think people who act like dummies are a majority? >

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-10-01 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 09:15:01AM -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Do those shows enhance a social stygma against a minority > group, and does the targeted minority group feel offended > by them? The answers are No and (meaningless). So, they > can't be banned. So you think people who act li

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-10-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jim Sharkey wrote: > >> Some jobs are necessary. Other jobs aren't. Those jobs >> that are *not* necessary, and that induce a negative >> social stigma should be limited, if not eliminated at >> all. > > Hrm. In Japan in particular, but also in the US, > there are entire game shows

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-30 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Jim Sharkey wrote: > > > > I am so sick of laws protecting people from themselves. > > > Would you support people selling themselves as slaves? > Or people selling essencial body parts, like a cornea? Isn't this happening? I mean selling one kidney, selling blood, or se

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-30 Thread Jim Sharkey
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Some jobs are necessary. Other jobs aren't. Those jobs > that are *not* necessary, and that induce a negative > social stigma should be limited, if not eliminated at > all. Hrm. In Japan in particular, but also in the US, there are entire game shows dedicated to

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jim Sharkey wrote: > >> Those are your words. Should I tell you to get back >> and read the files? :-P > > I think we're misunderstanding each other here. > Isn't this the fun of e-mail? :-) >>> You don't believe that a law that protects a dwarf's >>> dignity by making him give up h

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-30 Thread Jim Sharkey
Alberto Monteiro wrote: >Jim Sharkey wrote: >> >>>Ok, so you aren't really sick of laws protecting people from >>>themselves, right? >> >>I don't believe I was making that point at all by saying >>there are limits. >> >Those are your words. Should I tell you to get back >and read the fi

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jim Sharkey wrote: > >> Ok, so you aren't really sick of laws protecting people from >> themselves, right? > > I don't believe I was making that point at all by saying > there are limits. > Those are your words. Should I tell you to get back and read the files? :-P > You don't believe

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-29 Thread Jim Sharkey
Julia Thompson wrote: >Jim Sharkey wrote: >>If someone felt that blinding himself had a price tag, and his >>blindness would not be a burden on society, I don't see why not. > >If the individual lived in the US and were not legally blind before >selling the cornea, and became legally blind as a

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-29 Thread Jim Sharkey
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Ok, so you aren't really sick of laws protecting people from > themselves, right? I don't believe I was making that point at all by saying there are limits. You don't believe that a law that protects a dwarf's dignity by making him give up his job is a ridiculous exa

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jim Sharkey wrote: > >>> I am so sick of laws protecting people from themselves. >> >> Would you support people selling themselves as slaves? >> Or people selling essencial body parts, like a cornea? > > Interesting question, but really those are straw man arguments. > You made a general statem

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-29 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote: > > Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > > > Jim Sharkey wrote: > > > > > > I am so sick of laws protecting people from themselves. > > > > > Would you support people selling themselves as slaves? > > Or people selling essencial body parts, like a cornea? > > > > Interesting question,

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-29 Thread Jim Sharkey
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > Jim Sharkey wrote: > > > > I am so sick of laws protecting people from themselves. > > > Would you support people selling themselves as slaves? > Or people selling essencial body parts, like a cornea? > Interesting question, but really those are straw man arguments.

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jim Sharkey wrote: > > I am so sick of laws protecting people from themselves. > Would you support people selling themselves as slaves? Or people selling essencial body parts, like a cornea? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listin

RE: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-29 Thread Jim Sharkey
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > A tiny stuntman who protested against a French ban on the bizarre > practice of "dwarf throwing" lost his case before a U.N. human > rights body, which said the need to protect human dignity was > paramount. It's good that the UN wants to protect people from volunt

U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-09-29 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=573&ncid=573&e=6&u=/nm/2002 0927/od_nm/rights_dc A tiny stuntman who protested against a French ban on the bizarre practice of "dwarf throwing" lost his case before a U.N. human rights body, which said the need to protect human dignity was paramoun