Re: How much do people care about health? (Was: dorepublicans/politicians care...)

2003-01-30 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

 At 01:52 PM 1/17/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
 Deborah Harrell wrote:
 
   As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
   (tailored to the community/culture) to work
   intensively with folks and their particular
   addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever; but
   after a specified time (to be researched/negotiated),
   if the person returned to the deadly behavior, care
   for that aspect of their health would be eliminated.
 
 eh what is the current treatment for chocolate addiction? ;o)

 snip

 In this case, however, the only thing which binds to all of the receptors
 activated by the particular combination of ingredients in chocolate is
 chocolate.

 So the only known treatment for someone suffering from chocolate addiction
 is to promptly administer a massive dose of chocolate. (Feel free to show
 this prescription to Jeroen and tell him you need it filled immediately.)

 Unfortunately, now I am having withdrawal symptoms and need to go get some

Oh goody, I love that treatment. In that case Debby can be the evil
overlady if she does her own paperwork, that is. ;o) Hmmm.

Unfortunatly I almost never have chocolate stuff around when I really need it.
Then again, it is maybe best to strengthen my will power by not having the
dangerous 'cholate drug' ;o) anywhere near me. :o)

I think I'll have a glass of wine then. It ain't as good as chocolate but it'll
do.

Cheers
Sonja

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Re: How much do people care about health? (Was: dorepublicans/politicians care...)

2003-01-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
 
 Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
 
  At 01:52 PM 1/17/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
  Deborah Harrell wrote:
  
As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
(tailored to the community/culture) to work
intensively with folks and their particular
addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever; but
after a specified time (to be researched/negotiated),
if the person returned to the deadly behavior, care
for that aspect of their health would be eliminated.
  
  eh what is the current treatment for chocolate addiction? ;o)
 
  snip
 
  In this case, however, the only thing which binds to all of the receptors
  activated by the particular combination of ingredients in chocolate is
  chocolate.
 
  So the only known treatment for someone suffering from chocolate addiction
  is to promptly administer a massive dose of chocolate. (Feel free to show
  this prescription to Jeroen and tell him you need it filled immediately.)
 
  Unfortunately, now I am having withdrawal symptoms and need to go get some
 
 Oh goody, I love that treatment. In that case Debby can be the evil
 overlady if she does her own paperwork, that is. ;o) Hmmm.
 
 Unfortunatly I almost never have chocolate stuff around when I really need it.
 Then again, it is maybe best to strengthen my will power by not having the
 dangerous 'cholate drug' ;o) anywhere near me. :o)

If you have the willpower required for this system, get a package of small
dark chocolates.  Limit yourself to 1 or 2 a day.  When the package is
running low, get another package.  If you can limit yourself, then you can
have chocolate every day.  Maybe have a certain time every day when you get
1 piece, and if it's a very stressful day, have 1 more piece at a stressful
time, if that will help calm you down.

Oh, and hide the package from any other chocolate monsters.  ;)

Julia
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Re: How much do people care about health? (Was: dorepublicans/politicians care...)

2003-01-30 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:57 30-01-2003 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote:


 So the only known treatment for someone suffering from chocolate addiction
 is to promptly administer a massive dose of chocolate. (Feel free to show
 this prescription to Jeroen and tell him you need it filled immediately.)

 Unfortunately, now I am having withdrawal symptoms and need to go get some

Oh goody, I love that treatment. In that case Debby can be the evil
overlady if she does her own paperwork, that is. ;o) Hmmm.


Hey, us Evil Overpersons don't have to do our own paperwork -- that's what 
our minions in the Accounting Dept. are for!   :-)


Jeroen Evil Overlord van Baardwijk


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Re: How much do people care about health? (Was: dorepublicans/politicians care...)

2003-01-17 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Deborah Harrell wrote:

 As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
 (tailored to the community/culture) to work
 intensively with folks and their particular
 addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever; but
 after a specified time (to be researched/negotiated),
 if the person returned to the deadly behavior, care
 for that aspect of their health would be eliminated.

eh what is the current treatment for chocolate addiction? ;o)

Sonja

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Re: How much do people care about health? (Was: dorepublicans/politicians care...)

2003-01-17 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 01:52 PM 1/17/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:

Deborah Harrell wrote:

 As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
 (tailored to the community/culture) to work
 intensively with folks and their particular
 addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever; but
 after a specified time (to be researched/negotiated),
 if the person returned to the deadly behavior, care
 for that aspect of their health would be eliminated.

eh what is the current treatment for chocolate addiction? ;o)

Sonja



It's similar to what is used in the case of accidental ingestion of 
methanol (Sterno) or ethylene glycol (antifreeze):  to keep the body from 
absorbing a toxic amount of the poison, immediately administer a large dose 
of something which ties up the same receptors.  In the case of MeOH or 
antifreeze poisoning, that substance is ethyl alcohol, so in essence the 
doctor gets the patient very drunk very quick on pure alcohol.  (If you 
could see how many typos I am making this morning, you might wonder if I am 
also in that condition . . . fwiw, the answer is no, unless someone 
sneaked in and hooked me up to an Everclear drip while I was asleep, then 
disconnected it before I woke up.  ;-)  )

In this case, however, the only thing which binds to all of the receptors 
activated by the particular combination of ingredients in chocolate is 
chocolate.

So the only known treatment for someone suffering from chocolate addiction 
is to promptly administer a massive dose of chocolate. (Feel free to show 
this prescription to Jeroen and tell him you need it filled immediately.)

Unfortunately, now I am having withdrawal symptoms and need to go get some 
. . .



--Ronn! :)

I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon.
I never dreamed that I would see the last.
--Dr. Jerry Pournelle


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Re: How much do people care about health? (Was: dorepublicans/politicians care...)

2002-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote:
 
 Bonus points for those who come up with *legitimate*
 instances of alcohol or cocaine use that promotes
 survival (there are several, but they don't involve
 addiction either).

Chewing on the leaves of the plant that ridiculous westerners distill
into cocaine helps the body work better at high altitudes?

(Not sure on survival vis-a-vis the alcohol, but I know that birds
like to get a little sloshed on fermented berries, given the
opportunity.)

Julia
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Re: How much do people care about health? (Was: dorepublicans/politicians care...)

2002-12-17 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- just john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[I wrote] 
 As Evil Overlady, I would institute local programs
 (tailored to the community/culture) to work
 intensively with folks and their particular
 addictions, be they food, nicotine or whatever; but
 after a specified time (to be
 researched/negotiated),
 if the person returned to the deadly behavior, care
 for that aspect of their health would be
 eliminated.
 
 
 What about potentially useful-to-the-Government
 addictions, like rage and
 aggression?  I think an argument can be made that
 they can shorten
 lifespans, but who better to enlist when you need
 shock troops?

Hmm, I don't think I'd consider these to be
addictions in the same sense as alcohol or cocaine,
particularly since both rage and aggression - in
certain situations - actually promote survival.  You
don't have to be addicted to rage to benefit from it
at the right time (personal experience speaking here!)
- your oh-so-primeval hormones will kick in and turn
you into a fighting machine (or at least an alpha
bitch ;D ).

And ask the Angosians about tinkering with their
soldiers neuropsych' profiles!  (Next Gen episode: the
surviving veterans were permanently quarantined
because of their aggression.)  As Evil Overlady (the
government) I would not make such a foolishly
dangerous mistake.  ;)

Bonus points for those who come up with *legitimate*
instances of alcohol or cocaine use that promotes
survival (there are several, but they don't involve
addiction either).

GSV Chocoholic

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Re: How much do people care about health? (Was: dorepublicans/politicians care...)

2002-12-17 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- just john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[I wrote] 
 And ask the Angosians about tinkering with their
 soldiers neuropsych' profiles!  (Next Gen episode:
 the surviving veterans were permanently quarantined
 because of their aggression.)  As Evil Overlady
 (the government) I would not make such a foolishly
 dangerous mistake.  ;)
 
 Okay, if we're talking examples from fiction,
 howzabout the Spice, in Dune?
 (And Dune Messiah and Children of Dune and Overgrown
 Psychic Slug of Dune
 ...)
 
 That seemed to be addiction in service to
 Government(s).

stomps feet and waves arms wildly
No No NO!!!  *I* am the Overlady!  I will not allow
such monsters to be!  sputters incoherently then
slowly dissolves in toxic water tossed by a spunky
street urchin and her little worm Tutu...

Hmm, I wonder how the Bene Gesserit thought their
machinations turned out?  evil grin

Addictions R Us Maru

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