Many interesting comments, that caused many reactions when reading.
-Amy, are those musicians dancers as well? And do any of them also call?
Your discussion goal may be to discuss the synergy of the band, caller, and
dancers, and where trust is needed.
-I have no idea how long any of you have
I usually warn bands that I tend to run dances just a little shorter
than other callers. My habit is about 5-and-a-bit dances an hour, 12
minutes (give or take) from the start of teaching one to the start of
teaching the next, but that definitely varies. Size, energy, chattiness
and skill
The biggest problem with this is that the leader of the band is a good
friend..who is always right...and I have the honor of being
this person's favorite caller. Tricky.
I'll take notes and review them with the band afterward. Over a beverage.
-Amy
> On Apr 27, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Kalia
There's a band I work with on a pretty regular basis that usually follows
my lead, but will occasionally ask "For this set, can we choose when to go
out?" I trust them not to run it too long, and letting them choose when
they go out gives them a lot of control over the musical experience, which
Yeesh. This sounds like a recipe for a difficult evening, unless it's
one of those very rare bands where the musicians are really watching
what's happening on the floor.
Do you have the option of not working with this band in the future?
Kalia
On 4/27/2015 1:58 PM, Donald Perley via Callers
Just a guess.. they have arrangements for each set and feel miffed if
they get cut short without getting through each variation.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Amy Wimmer via Callers
wrote:
>
> I have an oddity coming up: a band for which I am calling has asked
My mileage varies considerably in numbers of dances I get through in
an evening. The biggest factors are 1) number of beginners, 2)
chattiness/inattention of dancers, 3) flexibility of band, 4) length
of break.
I have tried to pay attention to specific couples and track them in a
dance, but
dance.
Tim KleinKnoxville, TN
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As a dancer, I have found a lot of callers aim for 4 per hour, and this
feels way too long for several reasons:
- Especially in warm weather, dancers get tired
- Musicians get tired, too.
- People involuntarily sitting out have to suffer through a longer out time.
With dances more like the 8-9
Generally, I expect to call 9-12 dances in a regular evening
contra/community dance venue. With 10-11 being the greatest majority of
the gigs.
I usually prepare a program with 10-11 dances, but of course once the
evening begins, things can change, sometimes quite radically.
The length of
I usually do things basically by feel, and I also pay particular attention to
tune changes and give the band enough time to play the 3rd tune enough times.
I don't have any "rules of thumb", like watching a particular couple go up the
line and back, or any specific time length or number of
of
the changes I’ll ask where they are.
Ann Fallon
Annapolis, Maryland
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"If you decide on a number of times through and actually count, you can
stick to that pretty well, but if you decide a running time, it is much
more difficult to stay on track of the time and warn the band three times
before you want to end, etc."
I couldn't disagree more. I have always used a
When I was learning to call, I was taught to do about 15 times through the
dance (maybe 13, maybe 17). I like Victor's suggestion of 8 minutes for
the dance, 2 for walkthrough, and 2 for dancers to line up and chat before
the walkthrough starts. Including break and waltzes, in a three hour
For me, it really depends on the size and energy level of the dance. For a
larger dance with lots of energy, I will run around 15 min per slot...so 3-4
minutes to get a new partner, 3-4 min to walk thru and 8 or so minutes to dance
(around 16 times through the tune). Square and mixers run
> A caller up here, Byron Ricker, has been writing a few dances that
> he calls "quad beckets." Quad becket dances are becket dances that
> can be danced with 4 or more couples and that never leaves anyone
> out (unless there are an odd number of couples).
Surely this is just a double
th his permission, of course.
At a dance we rarely have that few people left, but for an informal gathering
I'm always looking for ways to keep people on the floor.
laur
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Subje
On 12/May/10 18:02, Meg Dedolph wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have a question about dance length - not the length of time you run a
particular dance, but the length of an evening of dancing. In Chicago, we
recently went from a three-hour Monday night dance to a two-and-a-half hour
Monday night dance.
-
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On May 12, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Meg Dedolph wrote:
I have a question about dance length
On May 12, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Meg Dedolph wrote:
> I have a question about dance length - not the length of time you run a
> particular dance, but the length of an evening of dancing. In Chicago, we
> recently went from a three-hour Monday night dance to a two-and-a-half hour
> Monday night
ssage-
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Ron Nelson wrote:
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> Gee, I guess you would need 6 couples to get to everyone. Thanks,
> Luke, for broadening my perspective.
>
Six doesn't help. I believe there's no way to set up a contra dance
with more than 2 couples where no one is ever out and each couple
dances with all other couples.
On 13/May/10 11:03, Ron Nelson wrote:
Gee, I guess you would need 6 couples to get to everyone. Thanks, Luke, for
broadening my perspective.
I'd think you'd need an odd number of pairs. Adding this idea to my
small numbers (of dancers) grab bag.
Cheers, John
J.D. Erskine
Victoria, BC
No
Gee, I guess you would need 6 couples to get to everyone. Thanks, Luke, for
broadening my perspective.
Ron
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> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:48:16 -0500
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> Subject: Re: [Callers] Dance length
>
> > Actually, no. M
> Actually, no. Most Becketts progress in a clockwise direction. Everyone has
> equal
> opportunity to dance with each of the other couples.
Double progression dances, becket (either direction) or improper, only
let you dance with half the couples when there's an even number of
couples. For four
>
> Richard Hart wrote:
With just 4 couples left, I've
> > sometimes called a quad becket with some success.
> >
>
> These would be double progression, no? So couple A dances with couple
> C, then couple D, but never couple B?
>
> Jeff
Actually, no. Most Becketts progress in a
I like to use the Bucksaw Reel with 4 couple sets. Everyone is active all the
time.
Ron Nelson
Chula Vista, CA
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> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 06:07:37 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Dance length
>
> Gary Roodman (f
Richard Hart wrote:
>
> A caller up here, Byron Ricker, has been writing a few dances that
> he calls "quad beckets." Quad becket dances are becket dances that
> can be danced with 4 or more couples and that never leaves anyone
> out (unless there are an odd number of couples). Many, but not all
2010 12:59 AM
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I usually consider 5 couple a minimum for a regular contra dance, but
triples like Money Musk require more people.
A caller up here, Byron Ricker, has been writing a few dances that he
calls "quad beckets."
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I usually consider 5 couple a
I usually consider 5 couple a minimum for a regular contra dance, but
triples like Money Musk require more people.
A caller up here, Byron Ricker, has been writing a few dances that he
calls "quad beckets." Quad becket dances are becket dances that can be
danced with 4 or more couples and that
>It's been a dream to go through the triplet repertoire and find the good
>ones. If you do it, let us know what you find!
>
Find out which ones David Millstone and Tony Parkes call.
:)
-Amy
What time do the dances start? Are people leaving because it's too late for
them on a Monday night? Could you start earlier?
At our calling parties, where space is limited, the ideal number of people
is 10 - there is always eighty per cent of the people dancing, and there are
never more than two
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Meg,
My
personal opinion is that 7 couples is a good minimum number for a
contra
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Meg,
My personal opinion is that 7 couples is a good minimum number for a contra
line. This gives 3 sets of hands 4 dancing all the time. 6 couples will
leave you with 2 hands 4 and 2 couples out every other progression.
Good luck,
Paul Wilde
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