The balance gets you stomping your feet a little and you whole body moving back
and forth to create a momentum for what ever comes next. It is a time when all
of the dancers can be considered to have a 'lead' role by using the arm
connections ('weight') to lead the others in the direction of
One of my favorites that fits that criteria is Orace Johnson's Du Quoin Races
the first half has 4 balances and the last have has the partner swing and a
couple real quick cir half way and roll away - lots of energy if you do it right
Mac McKeever
From:
I tend to agree - especially in dances where newer dancers are present - Flirty
situations are not comfortable for them - they have to be eased into it. Don't
try to make the dances seem like that is the primary goal.
Mac McKeever
From: Janet Bertog
Seth,
The dance is named for Rock Creek that flowed through the original Kimmswick
Dance weekend site - in the days when the weekends actually were near the town
of Kimmswick MO. The dance was probably written by David in the mid 1980s
Mac
From: Bill
While we are on this topic..
Here is a dance I collected a few years ago - but the caller did not mention
the name or author. Without that info - I haven't called it much even thought
I really like the dance
Help will be appreciated
Becket
A1 - Cir L 3/4 - pass thru swing next neighbor
A2
Martha,
Interesting dance - but the B2 seems confusing.
You end A1 with a partner swing and start B2 with a part balance across the set
That doesn't seem to work
What am I missing here?
Mac Mckeever
From: Martha Wild
To:
Greg,
If you want the ultimate in low partner interaction - one where you don't
actually touch your partner
Snake River Reel by Peter Lippincott (he also wrote a great tune by the same
name and they work well together)
It is a really fun dance, except for that one minor flaw.
Roger Diggle
When I call this dance - I just ask just ask the band if they have a 5 part
tune. Some do - dome don't
If they don't - I just use a 4 part tune and know the dance will not start at
the A1 each time - hasn't caused any problems
You can call this as a 4 part dance if you leave out the Rory O
I assune a big difference is the quantity and complexity of dances involved. I
know some of the rural community dances around here only dance a few dances
over and over. It not only allows the caller / dancemaster to memorize the
dances - but so do the dancers and that eliminates wasting a
I think you are probably right about this being a minority numbers thing. My
observation has been that we as callers and administrators tent to make a
bigger deal out of things than the general dance community.
Case in point..
We recently had a very capable caller who just had a really bad
My feeling is a lot of the lead function is not needed in contra. The caller
and choreography eliminate the need for a leader who decides what and when
things will happen and then the role of follower also becomes meaningless.
We still have the component where one dancer will provide a firm
given that hint - I will submit Roger Diggle's Roll in the Hey (but many others
from Roger might also qualify as candidates - and the same could be said for
Gene Hubert - lots of great dances from the Midwest).
Mac
From: Michael Fuerst
Michael -
I think you would agree that Du Quion Races would need to be on this list
Mac
From: Michael Fuerst
To: Caller's discussion list
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:46 AM
Subject: [Callers] Fw:
I often feel the best one ever written is the one I am currently dancing
Mac
From: Greg McKenzie
To: Caller's discussion list
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Callers] What is the best
A few Decembers ago the band surprised us with a holiday tune by playing the
Chipmunk Song for the final waltz - everyone knew many of the words and sung
along - it was fun!
Mac
From: Alan Winston
To: call...@sharedweight.net
I am pleased to see this topic get some attention. I have always tried to call
without cards. I go over all my dances and alternates before the evening
starts. Some I have memorized and some I am just familiar with enough to get
by with a quick review while the dancers are lining up for the
In my opinion - this is getting too regimented again.
I never tell dancers if they should clap or not. I have been known to let them
know how I feel about it in light hearted way.
Just let them dance and focus on the important stuff
Mac
From: Jeff Kaufman
I like Andrea's approach.
Remember - these are social events - let them socialize a bit - there is no
race to see how fast you can start the next dance.
Mention they need to take hands 4 a time or two while the lines are forming.
If (when) that doesn't happen, it looks like most of the
We have found the real secret is to impress on the more experienced dancers the
importance of identifying and asking new dancers to dance. The new people
canot be expected to go looking for experienced dancers. We are fortunate that
our regulars are really good at this and watch out for the
For those who already offer child care - have you looked into the liability
insurance issue? Does the CDSS insurance cover this. I suspect it might not -
having a separate charge would seem to make it a separate type of service not
covered. This would seem to make it risky.
Mac McKeever
First - I never attempt a contra with beginner groups - the closest I come is
the Virginia Reel - progression is confusing and too many things have to happen
right for the dance to work. There are lots of dances that are more forgiving
and a lot more fun for beginners.
Teaching 'proper' swing
s through, and swing, usually means that the neighbor
> swing is shortened. But I still make sure to credit the original
> choreographer, stating "this is a slight variation of the
> danceby.."
>
> Have fun calling in Concord!
> warmly, Linda
>
>
> On Aug 31
If I were calling this dance I would not hesitate to reverse the A parts. I
would announce the original name and author and mention it is slightly modified.
I actually do this quite often. There are some things I especially like (or
don't like) and I have no issues tweaking a dance to add or
Actually - CDSS provides us the ability to purchase 2 different types of
liability insurance
One is caller's insurance - that is not what you are looking for - it is
protection for the caller personally - not for the hall or group
The other is group liability insurance - it protects our group
Let me add one more thing that may help. Even though our local group has a
headset available at every dance, I am the only caller who chooses to use it.
All of the others (and we have a lot of them) prefer a wired hand held.
Mac
From: Emily Addison
Why are you considering a wireless mic?
If it is to get out and move around during a lesson - I prefer a headset
because I participate in the lesson as a dancer so I need both hands free
If the instructor does not participate in the lesson a hand held might be
better.
Many callers just do not
of the 3 type of dance questions you listed - only the first seems to be a
caller's issue. The other 2 don't seem to fit as well in this forum.
While I like the idea of sharing new dances - there are a lot of them out there
and that would pretty much take over this group.
I don't write
That has been know to happen.
From: Colin Hume <co...@colinhume.com>
To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Name of the Dance
On 10/04/2012 15:25, Richard Mc
Subject: Re: [Callers] Name of the Dance
On 10/04/2012 14:45, Richard Mckeever wrote:
> If you start the hey with the ladies turning left half way - wouldn't that
> shorten the hey and avoid the timing issue for the balance?
When I read the original post I thought "Surely the hey should
Do you object to having 6 dances in a row with a partner swing?
Mac
From: mavis mcgaugh
To: Caller's discussion list
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Callers] What makes a program varied,
I approach the balance a little differently. At the beginners' workshop I walk
them through a simple 4 step foot work (step forward - step back). then I tell
them to forget it because the really important part happens in the arms. If
you get that down - footwork will follow and it doesn't
Greg -
I think you have hit on an important point. My experience has been that much
of the objection to a mixer is you ask someone to dance and the don't get to
keep them as a partner. Announcing the mixer in advance (the dance after this
one will be a mixer) would address this and,
I frequently solicit requests - sometimes for a week or so before I call -
sometimes near the end of the first half - before the break I ask for
suggestions for the second half. I like to have the dancers feel they have a
say in what is presented. If I ask far enough in advance - I will get a
I would still call that improper because I would start the walk thru in
improper formation at the end of B2.
Then do the alle R 3/4 and then start the dance. Getting into that wave any
other way would be very difficult and confusing.
Then to start the dance - bring them back to improper -
I like star promenades and frequently call contras and squares that include
that figure.
I watching these for some time I frequently see something a little different.
Often the dance leaves the ladies (assuming the gents are the ones doing the
allemands) in a spot a little distance from
I am not familiar with this dance - but if you are on the same side of the set
as your partner - a shadow cannot be located on the other side - so they will
be on the same side somewhere to your right or left.
Mac
From: "barbara...@aol.com"
is way?
~ Becky Nankivell
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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:54:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Mckeever <mac...@ymail.com>
To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Double contra - whodunnit?
Message-ID:
<1324929269.90143.yahoomail...@web120401.m
good question
Get in 4 face 4 so you recognize the other couple in your line
then take traditional hands 4 in regular contra lines
then turn 1/4 turn to Becket
Mac
From: Becky Nankivell
To: call...@sharedweight.net
Sent: Monday,
That sounds like the one you are looking for. I have called this many times.
The one modification I have been making lately is to take the balance out of
the C1 part. The hey for 8 is something different for most dancers and they
seem to have trouble finishing it on time. Those who do get
One I remember was when the band played the Chipmunk Song (it is a Christmas
themed waltz) for the ending waltz and everyone started singing the few words
they could remember.
Of course Jingle Bells works well if you need something with phrasing for
contras, etc. - again,you can encourage sing
I had my dances on an Access db - but purchased the Caller's companion to use
some of its nice features. It does some things very well - but I had
difficulty with program planning and getting output in a format I could use -
so I stopped using it.
That is just me - it might work very well for
It makes me cringe when I see anyone trying to teach beginners a buzz step. We
emphasize the dance is done with a smooth walking step - so let them continue
that into the swing rather than encouraging them to start bouncing up and down.
Once they are comfortable with the walking swing they can
Greg,
I hadn't thought about that before - but it makes sense. The caller's name is
meaningless to new dancers and could even be a distraction. The bands often
have colorful names that could attract attention. You do have to try to look
at it from a potential dancer's perspective. I want
sure - I would join. I don't do any web design but I always have an opinion
about it - and I do occasionally create some content I could share.
We have been at this for a while and have learned a lot from our mistakes we
could share and learn from others.
there is a lot out there - but it is
Greg,
I can agree with you to a certain extent. We have new dancers show up after
the workshops and they do reasonably well. Our experienced dancers are very
good about finding new dancers who will benefit from dancing wiht them
(unfortunately - we also have some less accomplished but
Here is a new topic...
Recently I have noticed that many of the programs presented have consisted
solely of duple improper contras with a couple Becket dances thrown in for
variety.
I would be interesting to hear how other callers incorporate other formations
in their programs and how they
Can I offer another 2 cents worth?
Every notice how when we have one of the great callers - the dancers listen to
every words and follow the directions more readily? That is not an accident -
but a real skill. Everything they say is important - even if they are just
thanking the sound guy.
There are certainly many things that make a caller good or even great. One I
don't find mentioned very often is their role as an entertainer. When I first
started calling I attended a workshop with Fred Park and he emphasized this.
It
stuck with me even though I don't think I have ever
A similar thing happens on one side of the dance floor in Ely, England - Lisa G
was calling LL go forward and forward
From: Donald Primrose
To: Caller's discussion list
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 11:13:17
I take a much different approach. There are far too many variables to try to
attach a number to anything. The most important is how the dance is designed -
and I mean each transition - not the whole dance. That is far more important
than the experience level, difficulty of the dance or
Actually - that makes sense. With one star flowing into the next, it would
feel
awkward if they were not done the same.
I still can't picture that transition to the do-si-do - I'll have to try it -
or
better yet - we have a weekly party her that is perfect for analyzing dances in
great
Mark,
Well said.
Personally, I don't often call medleys - but it has nothing to do with the
dancers abilities. I did call one at a regular dance a couple weeks ago as the
last dance of the evening. By that time everyone there had enough experience
to
handle a couple easy dances without
That's fine for a dance weekend. I would NEVER do anything at a community
dance
event that excludes anyone - especially new dancers.
Consider this...
When you know a medley is coming - make it a point to dance with a new dancer.
What an accomplishment to help them successfully navigate
This is all interesting - can someone explain where this leaves the less
experienced dancer?
A medley is the place where they need the most help from the more experienced.
Unless we put them all in the same line and watch them scramble.
Or should we just invite them not to dance?
It really
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