[cayugabirds-l] Wildlife Photo Ethics

[Carl Steckler]

I am going to really stick my neck out here, please don't chop it off.
I was recently asked by a new birder and photographer about "when is a 
wildlife photo not a wildlife photo?"

She asked if a photo taken at a zoo of a bird was really a wildlife photo?
She also asked about post production. How much editing was too much
This reminded me of a photo that I submitted to the CBC annual photo 
night. I was a photo of three woodpeckers
a Downy, Hairy and Red-bellied at a log feeder that I had set up. I 
tried for hours to get a photo of all three together.
I finally gave up and created a photo of all three in Photoshop. I did 
confess to this the evening of the program so I

wasn't trying to fool anybody, just show a photo of all three.
Now all three woodpeckers were wild birds and I did take the photos, but 
would this be considered "wildlife photography?
I have recently seen some wonderful "photos" created by AI, but again 
are they wildlife photos?So I am asking for your
opinion as to what is and what isn't a "real" wildlife photo? Where does 
it begin and end?
you can PM me at c...@cornell.edu but I think this discussion should be 
on the list.

thanks
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Grape Jelly

[Carl Steckler]

Interesting discovery today
It seems that besides Orioles, Catbirds and Hummingbirds like grape jelly
too.

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[cayugabirds-l] Red Flanked Bluetail

[Carl Steckler]

If you would like to join me please call
607 592 8798
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Red Flanked Bluetail

[Carl Steckler]

Anyone interested in going to NJ to find the Red Flanked Bluetail I am
going down tomorrow morning.
Leaving around 8:00 AM
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [The Washington Post] Dozens of bird names honoring enslavers and racists will be changed

[Carl Steckler]

I agree Dave, but I feel it is the right decision for the wrong reasons. 
Changing the names to better describe the bird, good.

Changing the name because of what someone did in the past is wrong.

you really have to look at the person in the context of their time, 
their morals and their laws.

If the bird was named for someone other than the discoverer, then by all 
means change it.

But if it is named after the person who discovered the bird you really 
have to consider the contributions made by this person and ask do they 
outweigh the faults?

And what about the Latin names. A lot of them are named for people. Are 
we going to change those also?

Again while I am in favor of changing the names to better describe the 
birds, let that be the reason for the change and not for any agenda 
which may or may not have anything to do with ornithology.

It is a slippery slope we climb my friends.

Ornamythelogy. The belief that you will actully see the bird every one 
else is reporting.

Carl


On 11/3/2023 23:56, Dave Nutter wrote:
> Bird names for birds. Cool concept. The article includes many good 
> reasons. We will have to learn some new names for old birds. I look 
> forward to this.
>
> In many cases, the person who first described a species for science 
> decided to name it after someone who had nothing to do with the bird, 
> making the people-name even more irrelevant to the bird.
>
> I hope one of the benefits of the new names will be that they relate 
> better to the birds’ appearance, behavior, or habitat. This will make 
> the species and their field marks easier to learn and remember, 
> which I think will be more welcoming to all new birders as well as to 
> any birders traveling to unfamiliar areas. I struggle with many 
> western North American species named for people.
>
> Also, Kenn Kaufmann’s story is classic.
>
> - - Dave Nutter
>
> Begin forwarded message:
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>> *Subject:* *[The Washington Post] Dozens of bird names honoring 
>> enslavers and racists will be changed*
>>
>> The American Ornithological Society says it will alter all human 
>> names of North American birds, starting with up to 80 species.
>> https://wapo.st/3Mr8fDw
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[cayugabirds-l] Tiny Wrens?

[Carl Steckler]

This morning at my feeders I saw two of the smallest birds I have ever
seen. They were scarcely larger than the Ruby-throated Hummingbirds that I
have.
They were not hummingbirds but looked like miniature wrens, about half the
size of the Carolina Wrens that frequent the feeders.
My question is , are fledgling wrens really that small?
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Conservation vs Ecology

[Carl Steckler]

Well, let me state right out front that I am about to ignite a fire storm.

Are we conservationists or are we ecologists? Hope to instruct things like
green energy and the impact on wildlife.

For the ecologists among you, you place a high value on green, renewable
energy, but at the same time you are ignoring the fact that green energy is
detrimental to wildlife and plant life

Wind, turbines, kill hundreds of birds and bats every year. Both of these
activities are illegal but the fact that it is green energy seems to
overlook the fact that we’re destroying what we seek to keep.

More and more grassland is disappearing under the covering of silicon,
solar panels not only are the wildlife dispossessed, but so too is the
flora. Wildlife can relocate, although it may not be to a suitable habitat,
but the plants cannot relocate and often end up dying, because the sun that
gives them nourishment is now blocked by solar panels

Unfortunately, the argument about green energy global warming has become
more political than environmental
The science of green energy global warming climate change whatever you want
to call it is flawed
Some like to say that global warming climate change is caused by humans.
Well, I’ve seen many studies that support that and many studies that
disprove that.
what I haven’t seen yet is a good scientific reason why the earth goes into
an Ice Age and why the earth comes out of an Ice Age
And yet again, there are many theories, but they are just that theories
Without knowing the causes of an ice age or the causes of an ice age
ending, we are missing a big chunk of cause-and-effect

Does anyone disagree that when an ice age ends it gets warmer? Conversely,
when an ice age starts, it gets colder and it has been doing that for a lot
longer time than humans have been on this earth.

So think about it do we want to be climate activist or do we want to be
conservationist preserving what we have on this planet preserving the
ecosystem that the animals and plants of this planet so desperately need

I am not arguing, one way or another I have my beliefs, and you probably
have yours. My purpose is to take a good look at the differences between
conservation and ecology.
Carl Steckler

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[cayugabirds-l] Conowingo Dam

[Carl Steckler]

I am planning to drive to Conowingo Dam this Thursday morning, stay
overnight and return Friday afternoon.
I will stop at the dam on Thursday before going to hotel and again Friday
morning before returning home.
I will be staying at the Days Inn in Aberdeen
I have room for three people
If you are interested please let me know pm
I will leave from the Lab of O at 9:00 Thursday morning
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[cayugabirds-l] Mobility Impaired Birding

[Carl Steckler]

For those who are mobility impaired birding has few choices and even fewer
acceptable choices. I sincerely doubt that few of us (birders) would object
to a birder  in a wheelchair, either pushed or electric. But what if you
could walk, just not very far or very long?
Would an electric scooter or some other evehicle be acceptable?
As technology improves evehicles, whether two, three or four wheels, become
more available and eco friendly.
The question is as a birder is how acceptable are you in allowing those
with mobility issues to take advantage of the emerging technology that is
available?
Simply put, how much are you willing to accommodate your fellow birders
with disabilities?
And hopefully a lively discussion ensues.
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Feeder First

[Carl Steckler]

Just minutes after talking to my neighbor about her seeing a Yellow bellied
Sapsucker in the woods behind her house, one showed up at my feeders. First
time for my feeders here in Dryden

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[cayugabirds-l] SPRING

[Carl Steckler]

It’s here, it’s really here.
I have Orioles at my feeders.
Yee haa
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Stellar’s Sea Eagle

[Carl Steckler]

If anyone is thinking about going up to Maine to see the STSE let me know
I can drive
Contact me at (607) 592-8798
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Trip To Conowingo Dam Cancelled

[Carl Steckler]

This trip has been cancelled as only one person has signed up by the due 
date (Nov 30 2021) Making the trip too expensive for just two people.


Carl


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[cayugabirds-l] CBC Trip to Conowingo Dam

[Carl Steckler]

WhenSaturday, Dec 4, 2021
*Conowingo Dam in northern Maryland: the Bald Eagle spectacle*
Every winter well over 100 Bald Eagles gather at Conowingo Dam, along the
lower Susquehanna River in northern Maryland, to feast on fish which are
sucked through the giant turbines as the dam generates electricity for the
Baltimore area. Travel time is about 4.5 hours.

We will be staying at a local hotel, and I will check on availability.
Please let me know that you are going by Nov 30
Bring any snacks and drinks and dress warmly.
I have been vaccinated and have room for two people in my Jeep. If you can
drive let me know how many people you can take.
Please let me know as soon as possible if you are interested. I can be
reached at *c...@cornell.edu *
We will be leaving from the CLO parking lot at 8:00 AM Saturday Dec. 4th

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[cayugabirds-l] CBC Trip to Conowingo Dam

[Carl Steckler]

CBC trip to Conowingo Dam with Carl Steckler

WhenSaturday, Dec 4, 2021
Description*Conowingo Dam in northern Maryland: the Bald Eagle spectacle*
Every winter well over 100 Bald Eagles gather at Conowingo Dam, along 
the lower Susquehanna River in northern Maryland, to feast on fish which 
are sucked through the giant turbines as the dam generates electricity 
for the Baltimore area. Travel time is about 4.5 hours.

We will be staying at a local hotel, and I will check on availability. 
Please let me know that you are going by Nov 26th.
Bring any snacks and drinks and dress warmly.
I have been vaccinated and have room for three people in my Jeep. If you 
can drive let me know how many people you can take.
Please let me know as soon as possible if you are interested. I can be 
reached at *c...@cornell.edu <mailto:c...@cornell.edu>*
We will be leaving from the CLO parking lot at 8:00 AM Saturday Dec. 4th


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[cayugabirds-l] Birding with a Dog

[Carl Steckler]

Has anyone ever done a birding trip with a dog?  My question is what do you
do when you do an activity like a guided bird walk that you can’t take your
dog along?
I know that I can’t just leave him in the car for two or three hours.

Any suggestions would be appreciate.
Thanks
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Curlew Sandpiper

[Carl Steckler]

I am planning on going down to Delaware to find the Curlew Sandpiper that
has been reported the past few days.

It will be a one day trip and I am planning on leaving early Saturday
morning.

I will have room for three so if you are interested please let me know by
Friday

Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Birding the Midwest

[Carl Steckler]

I am planning a birding trip to the Midwest grasslands for next June.
Already I am finding hotel rooms sold out for that period.

Does anyone have experience or advice on birding the prairie grasslands?

Also anyone who might want to go along on this trip please let me know.

Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Not the birds please

[Carl Steckler]

First it was statues, then military bases.
Now the target of the woke crowd are birds.
The American Ornithological Society is thinking about changing the names of
some birds because they have a past that some call racist.

Common people there is no room for political correctness in bird watching,

Or did I just miss the memo?

Please don’t let this hysteria ruin our hobby.

There may be scientific reasons to change the name but unit for political
reasons.

Birding is and should be open and available to every person, period.
What is next, ABA verses Audubon?

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[cayugabirds-l] Wagtail

[Carl Steckler]

Anyone as crazy as I am who wants to go to Virginia to see the Wagtail?
PM me if interested
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] No Birds

[Carl Steckler]

Yesterday there were dozens of birds at my feeders. So many that I had to
refill the seed cake feeders.

Today I have not seen any birds at all.

Very strange , any one have any ideas?
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Flock of Northern Cardinals

[Carl Steckler]

I woke up this morning to a flock of northern Cardinals at my feeder‘s
There were approximately 15 to 20 both male and female, it was hard to tell
they keep chasing each other all over the place
I have never had this many Cardinals at one time anyone else seen this?
Any ideas of what’s going on?
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Terek Sandpiper

[Carl Steckler]

Thinking about driving to RI to find Terek   Sandpiper
Either Wednesday or Thursday
Five hours drive. I have room for three .
Let me know if interested.
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[cayugabirds-l] First

[Carl Steckler]

I just had my first ever Oriole at my feeders here in Dryden. Just as I 
was taking photos of the Oriole an Indigo Bunting showed up for a few 
nice photos.


I just did better in five minuted that Meg and I did all afternoon at MNWR.

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[cayugabirds-l] Black Birds

[Carl Steckler]

They are back. I had a huge flock of Redwings, Grackles and Starlings
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[cayugabirds-l] CBC Conowingo Field Trip

[Carl Steckler]

Once again I am cancelling the CBC field  trip to Conowingo Dam. Not 
because of weather this time but due to lack of Bald Eagles. According 
to eBird the highest count this month was four. Most days only one or 
two. Not sure where they all went but not enough to warrant a trip there.


Maybe next winter

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[cayugabirds-l] Red Wings and Grackles

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Hurrah! Flocks of Red-winged Blackbirds and Grackles have shown up to empty
my feeders here in Dryden.
Can this be Spring?

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[cayugabirds-l] skull identification

[Carl Steckler]

Meg's sister found what looks like a bird skull on the beach in Rhode 
island. If you think that you might be able to identify or know who 
might please PM me and I can send a photo.


Thanks

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[cayugabirds-l] Bobolink Sightings

[Carl Steckler]

Has anyone had a sighting of Bobolinks recently? I'm looking to get a 
good photo. If so please PM me the location.

Thanks
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[cayugabirds-l] Snow Buntings Dryden

[Carl Steckler]

Meg just reported that a large flock of Snow Buntings are in the fields 
at the bottom of Simms Hill Rd. in Dryden.
Which is great for me, I can watch them from my living room window with 
out risking frostbite.

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[cayugabirds-l] Bald Eagles at Conowingo Dam

[Carl Steckler]

First , Happy thanksgiving to every one.

I am thinking of taking a trip to Conowingo MD to see the Bald Eagles 
who come by the hundreds to fish at the dam there, also there are 
thousands of Gulls.
It is a 4 1/2 hour trip one way and will be a long day, leaving at 6:00 
AM and returning that evening.   We will stop for lunch on the way and 
again on the way back.
I am thinking that Sat. Dec. 1st would be a good day. The weather is 
forecast to be clear and in the mid 50s.

If you are interested please PM me at c...@cornell.edu
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[cayugabirds-l] Sharp-tailed Sandpiper Maryland

[Carl Steckler]

Long ride
Rare bird
I'm thinking of going can take three passengers
If interested PM me at simmshil...@gmail.com
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[cayugabirds-l] Pileated Woodpecker

[Carl Steckler]

I am looking for a Pileated Woodpecker nest to photograph the activities 
of these birds. If anyone knows the location of an active nest could you 
please PM me at c...@cornell.edu


Thanks

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[cayugabirds-l] Kestrels

[Carl Steckler]

Meg reported that the Dutcher road Kestrels are back at the nest box.  
Dutcher road in Dryden.


Carl


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[cayugabirds-l] Clark's Grebe

[Carl Steckler]

I'm going up to see the Grebe, I have room for one more if anyone wants 
to go.

Call 607 592 8798
leaving in about a half hour.
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] eNews: An App That Can ID Your Bird Photos

[Carl Steckler]

The new version of Merlin is fantastic. Not only will it identify photos 
of birds taken with your phone, you can take a photo from the LCD screen 
of your Digital camera.  It should work with digiscoping as well. I gave 
it a workout on the recent CBC field trip to Niagara Falls and it was 
near 100% correct on identification. At worst it gave you the correct 
bird on the second or third choice. It even identified Charley Harper 
birds. We even went so far as to take selfies to see what bird Merlin 
identified us as, great fun. No I won't say which bird Merlin identified 
my selfie as.
I can say that the Merlin team has brought this app a long way and it 
will be a great addition to both beginners and advanced birders. Good 
work Team Merlin.

Carl Steckler

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl - Not

[Carl Steckler]

Having seen this bird yesterday I can well understand why the 
misdentification.  When looking through a 600mm camera lens from a 
distance it did seem to have the markings of a Snowy. It was only after 
seeing it through a scope did I see the red tail and head.  Without 
these two positive identifiers I can well understand someone, even an 
experienced birder, making the wrong identification. I do not think this 
hawk is an albino though as it did not completely lack pigmentation.  
Leucism seems to be more likely as there was not a total lack of 
colorization, it plainly had the markings of a Red-tail, just with 
mostly white feathers.
Carl

On 10/27/2016 12:07, Asher Hockett wrote:
> I remember after moving to Danby in 2000 that I mistook the 
> now-deceased white Red-tail for a Snowy. I had to go home for bins and 
> go back to discover my error. That bird was whiter than any Snowy I 
> have ever seen. I saw it so often I felt like we were connected.
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:02 PM, W. Larry Hymes  > wrote:
>
> Just a little clarification.  Seeing this bird at a distance
> without binocs could leave the manager of the farm (a non-birder)
> with the impression that this was indeed a Snowy Owl.  This is
> especially so, since Snowys have shown up on the farm on rare
> occasions.  I did suggest to him that it might be an "albino"
> Red-tail, but he was reasonably certain in his mind that he was
> seeing a Snowy.  Thus my report to Cayugabirds, and Sara Jane's
> rare bird alert.
>
> I thought this was much too early, but I don't know the earliest
> first arrival date in the fall/early winter of Snowy in the
> basin.  However, I do have a vague recollection of Snowys being
> seen as early as November.
>
> Larry
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[cayugabirds-l] Heil School Rd GH Owl Rescued

[Carl Steckler]

The GreatHornedOwl that was frequenting the Heil School Rd was found on the
road this morning by myself , Chris Wood and others. In a weakened
condition with an injury to the left eye, the owl was captured by Ann and
transported to the Vet School wildlife clinic.
Ann will post an update on the Owl's recovery.
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Dutcher Road Dryden Kestrels

[Carl Steckler]

Two small heads peeking out of Kestrel box on Dutcher Road, Dryden
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] OOB Pelagic Bird trip

[Carl Steckler]

I am planning on taking a pelagic bird trip out of Cape may, NJ on May 
21-22. There is room if anyone wants to join me.
This is a See Life Pelagics trip and you can find more information at 
www.paulagics.com 
The trip is $215.00 per person. I am driving down Friday May 20 if 
someone wants to join me.
PM me at c...@cornell.edu
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Silent Fireworks for City of Ithaca and campuses?

[Carl Steckler]

Absolutely not!
Carl
On 3/9/2016 10:15, Sandy Wold wrote:
> Would anyone support asking our City/town and local colleges to go 
> with silent fireworks such as in this town in Italy?
>
> http://travel.excite.co.uk/town-in-italy-starts-using-silent-fireworks-as-a-way-of-respecting-their-animals-N52632.html?utm_source=fb_medium=ed_campaign=Facebook%3A+ExciteUK
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>
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> Artist, Illustrator, Conservation Educator
> www.Sandy-Wold.com 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Apiarian Question

[Carl Steckler]

Thanks to all who responded. They are indeed Honeybees as identified by 
my neighborhood beekeeper.
The swarm has doubled since earlier this morning and now the birds are 
staying away, except for the woodpeckers.
I think that when it gets dark and the bees are gone I will remove my 
seed feeders for a few days. Hopefully that will solve the problem.

Thanks
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[cayugabirds-l] Apiarian Question

[Carl Steckler]

For the past two days I have had a small swarm of what appear to be 
small Honeybees at my platform feeder.
The birds  don't seem to mind and I haven't seen any interaction between 
them.  Didn't know bees liked bird seed.

Has anyone else had this experience?
Thanks
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Smew Roadtrip

[Carl Steckler]

Seen Fishers Landing on the St Lawrence
Thinking of going tomorrow.
Any takers?
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Western Tanager

[Carl Steckler]

The Tanager was still there this AM (8:30 ish) It was flitting between 
the South side of day hall and the glen.

Good views of wing bars. Bird looks good despite the temp.
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[cayugabirds-l] Reporting Locations

[Carl Steckler]

First thanks to all who report on this list. This is not meant to 
criticize anyone but to ask for further refinement?
I would like to ask that if we can we be a little more accurate in 
reporting locations. If a report is at Myers Park could you be a little 
more specific? Is it in the marina, the spit or 1000 yards off shore? 
Likewise such locations as the Aurora Boathouse. Again is the report by 
the dock at the boathouse or 1000 yards off shore? I know that some 
might think this is a bit picayune but to many like myself who not only 
wish to see the bird but photograph it as well it does make a 
difference. And think of the poor beginning birder who ends up 
disappointed in only seeing that speck on the lake.

Again thanks to all who report, and thanks for understanding.
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[cayugabirds-l] Cowbirds at feeders

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I have Cowbirds at my feeders here in Dryden.
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[cayugabirds-l] Great Tit

[Carl Steckler]

According to eBird they / it are being seen on the western shore of Lake 
Michigan North of Milwaukee. It looks like the sightings have been 
consistent.

Road trip anyone:?)
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[cayugabirds-l] Snowy Owl

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Any recent sightings?
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[cayugabirds-l] Pink-footed Goose Trip

[Carl Steckler]

Anyone up for a road trip to CT to see the Pink-footed Goose?
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

[Carl Steckler]

Yet another good reason to buy a Duck Stamp. That way you can show your 
support for conservation and that you are not against their activity per 
say, just the location. I am willing to bet that if you showed that you 
too had a duck stamp and explained your concern that this is a city park 
things would have been a lot more pleasant and might have made an 
impression that we birders are not just a bunch of anti-hunting 
treehuggers . IMHO

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[cayugabirds-l] Birding Big Bend National Park

[Carl Steckler]

Meg and I are planning a trip to Big bend NP this spring and were 
wondering if anyone who has been there has any tips and recommendations. 
Where to fly in to, motel etc.

Thanks
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[cayugabirds-l] CBC Trip Sat. To Find Gray Jays

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Just a reminder, I will be leading a CBC trip to Ferd's Bog and Sabattis 
Bog in the Adirondacks this Saturday.

We will meet in the parking lot closest to  the Lab of O at 7:00 AM
I have room for one more person in my Jeep so if you can drive let me 
know how many passengers you can take.
This will be a full day trip with stops for lunch and dinner, but bring 
along a snack and drinks.
The weather is forecast to be in the low 50s, but that can change so 
bring warm clothing and be prepared for snow.
We will be looking foe boreal species like the Gray Jay, Boreal 
Chickadee and Black-backed Woodpecker.
There were some recent sightings of Spruce Grouse by DEC Park Rangers, 
so cross your fingers.
This trip is open to all birders, not just CBC members, so I am hopping 
to see a lot of you join us.

You can contact me at c...@cornell.edu or (607) 592-8798
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Sabattis Bog Trip 10/24

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I plan on stopping at Ferd's Bog, but I thought that a dinner in Old 
Forge would be a good place to stop and take a break. There are also 
some good motels in Tupper Lake and closer to Bloomingdale.
I guess we could see how many might want to stay overnight I have stayed 
at Shaheen's Motel and it is quite nice.
I guess the question is how many would like to make it an overnight 
trip? All in favor of an overnight contact me.
Carl

On 10/17/2015 01:55, M Miller wrote:
> Had a question about this trip; is Sabattis Bog the same as the Circle 
> Rd/Sabattis Rd area near Long Lake? If it is, my Google maps shows it 
> just over 4 hrs. from Ithaca (with Bloomingdale Bog another hour). 
> With that in mind, I thought I would mention the EconoLodge in Malone 
> (25-30 minutes north of Paul Smiths) had rooms for $70 a night (as of 
> 10/9/15). I thought this might sound more appealing than making the 
> drive back on the same day (something to consider anyway). I am 
> thinking about joining the trip, however, since I live in Waterloo I 
> would probably be driving myself and want to meet up at Ferd’s Bog. If 
> anyone else from this area is interested in going along, please email me.
>
> Mark Miller
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[cayugabirds-l] Gray Jay Trip = CBC Field Trip

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Well it looks like the Gray Jay trip has morphed into a Cayuga Bird Club 
field trip.

We will be leaving at 7:00 AM Sat. Oct 24^th .from the parking lot at 
the Lab of O and caravanning to Sabattis Bog in the Adirondacks. This 
will be a full day trip so bring snacks and drinks. We will stop for 
lunch and dinner along the way.

We will explore the region around Sabattis Bog for northern bird 
species. We may take some short side trips in some of the access (read 
dirt) roads nearby.Leaving the area around 5:00 PM for the return trip home.

Depending on the number of people we will need enough vehicles to 
accommodate. I can fit two into my Wrangler. If you can take passengers 
please let me know. This trip is open to all birders, not just club 
members, but please contact me so I know how many are going.(607) 592 
8798 or c...@cornell.edu <mailto:c...@cornell.edu>

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Gray Jay trip

[Carl Steckler]

With the weather forecast not looking good I have decided to push the 
trip back to Sat the 24th.  Also the response was greater than the 
seating capacity of my Wrangler so if there is someone else that can 
provide a vehicle it looks like  it should be a good trip.

Carl Steckler

On 10/14/2015 21:03, Carl Steckler wrote:
Looking for someone who would like to share a ride with me to Sabattis 
Bog in the Adirondacks to find Gray Jays Sometime next week when the 
weather breaks (Tuesday or Wednesday). It is about a 3 1/2 hour drive 
so I plan on leaving fairly early in the AM and coming back the same 
day. I will be driving my Jeep Wrangler so I potentially have room for 
three people. Meg doesn't want to go and I would rather have some 
company. Any takers?

I can be reached ay 607 592 8798.
Thanks
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[cayugabirds-l] Gray Jay trip

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Looking for someone who would like to share a ride with me to Sabattis 
Bog in the Adirondacks to find Gray Jays Sometime next week when the 
weather breaks (Tuesday or Wednesday). It is about a 3 1/2 hour drive so 
I plan on leaving fairly early in the AM and coming back the same day. I 
will be driving my Jeep Wrangler so I potentially have room for three 
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takers?

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Thanks
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[cayugabirds-l] An Interesting Perspective On habitat Change

[Carl Steckler]

Please read this article. At last common sense by the DEC
Carl


http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/07/update-about-those-claims-of-declining-bird-populations-due-to-climate-change/
 



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[cayugabirds-l] Wyoming acts to discourage citizen scientists

[Carl Steckler]

Here is a scary happening. You might nor wish to go birding in Wyoming


  https://www.hcn.org/articles/wyoming-acts-to-discourage-citizen-scientists

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[cayugabirds-l] Golden and Bald Eagles Win again

[Carl Steckler]

Gettin' better and better

https://www.masterresource.org/cuisinarts-of-the-air/bald-golden-eagles-court-victory/

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[cayugabirds-l] Win for The Birds

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Maybe someone is listening??
http://stopthesethings.com/2015/01/06/us-wind-power-outfit-whacked-with-2-5-million-fine-for-rampant-golden-eagle-slaughter/
 


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] and thank you, Dave Nutter!

[Carl Steckler]

I would like to chime in here. Dave your info and perspective are right 
on. The problem I have is having everyone relying so heavily on a petition.

Having given comment , all be it about Wolves, to both DEC and FWS on 
several occasions concerning de-listing or changing status of wildlife I 
have learned that petitions do not carry as much weight as you would think.
  After talking to several FWS agents and hearing their comments 
concerning petitions I have come to the conclusion that a letter 
directly to the agency, clearly marked as comment  about the change of 
protection to the Golden-cheeked Warbler will do much more than a 
petition. Both the people from DEC and FWS have told me that petitions 
do not carry much weight because there is little thought and effort to 
sign a petition, it is too easy and anyone can do it without really 
knowing the issues. I have also heard this statement from several 
prominent wildlife biologists.

Even a short letter outlining why you believe that a change is either 
warranted or not warranted with sound biological reasons, and certainly 
loss of habitat certainly qualifies as a sound biological reason, means 
a lot more to those reviewing the issue. If FWS suddenly started 
receiving dozens of letters commenting about this issue they will be 
more motivated to look at the situation a lot closer before making a 
decision.

Is it worth you buying a stamp and spending a few minutes writing a 
letter? You bet it is. In these days of electronic mail and web based 
petitions a letter still carries a lot more weight. So sit down and 
wright please.
Carl Steckler

On 7/12/2015 13:46, Sandy Wold wrote:
 ... for your eloquent synopsis of the Golden-cheeked Warbler 
 conservation status, educating and updating us, modeling a graceful 
 (also fair and balanced) assessment of a potentially controversial 
 issue, modelling how to acknowledge the contribution of all parties 
 concerned, and (finally) sharing your personal conclusion (absent of 
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[cayugabirds-l] Loons

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I am looking for some semi-cooperative Loons to photograph. Not the ones 
in the middle of Cayuga Lake, but some smaller body of water so they 
would be more camera accessible. Ideally I would like to find a Pair 
with chicks.

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[cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers

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There are 2 Red-headed Woodpeckers at Mays Point
Not sure which tree nest cavity is inn
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[cayugabirds-l] Ithaca Golf course Owls

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great views of mother and chicks standing on  nest 4:30 today
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[cayugabirds-l] Dutcher Rd. Kestrels Return

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The Kestrels that nested in the box on Dutcher Rd., Dryden have 
returned. No activity seen in box yet, but soon we hope.
Dutcher Rd. is north of the village, turn west off Rt 13, box is about 
1/2 mile on pole on right.

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[cayugabirds-l] Dutcher Rd. Kestrels Return

[Carl Steckler]

The Kestrels that nested in the box on Dutcher Rd., Dryden have
returned. No activity seen in box yet, but soon we hope.
Dutcher Rd. is north of the village, turn west off Rt 13, box is about
1/2 mile on pole on right.
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[cayugabirds-l] OT.Leupold 19 X 42 Binoculars for sale

[Carl Steckler]

Meg has a pair of Lupold 10 X 42 Acadia BX-2 binoculars for sale. She is 
upgrading. The Lupold is in very good shape.

Call me at 607 592 8798 for more information.
Carl Steckler

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[cayugabirds-l] Rde-throated Loon

[Carl Steckler]

The Red-throated Loon was still behind the Ithaca farmer's market about 
2:00 PM today. Resting in the middle of the Inlet

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[cayugabirds-l] Great Horned Owl Golf Course

[Carl Steckler]

great views of Owl high up in tree
Grounds keeper asks that you not park on grass
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] OOB: Harlequin Duck Oswego

[Carl Steckler]

The male Harlequin Duck is still hanging around in the Oswego river
Very good looks from the parking lot behinde Bridie Manor restaurant just
up stream of the first bridge off 481 down town Oswego
Carl  Meg

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[cayugabirds-l] Snow buntings

[Carl Steckler]

hundreds of Snow Buntings Davis Rd Lansing 600 block by large dairy farm

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] rare bird rant

[Carl Steckler]

OK, here is the problem I have with eBiird. I just checked for sightings 
in New York State and the only sighting listed was from Dave Nutter on 
Feb 22. Nothing since then. I get eBird alerts for Seneca and Cayuga 
county. What I get are Chipping Sparrow, no Gyrfalcon. Granted eBird is 
great for collecting data, but for alerting birders to rare birds it is, 
pardon the expression, for the birds.
Maybe I am doing something wrong in my eBird settings, but it is not 
clear to me, and if it not clear it is not useful.

Now if only someone could help me get on the local alert net I would be 
grateful.

Carl

On 2/27/2015 10:31, Gary Kohlenberg wrote:
 The great part of using eBird as Bob does is that rare bird sightings 
 output to all users that have the rare bird / needs alert 
 notifications setup in their account. No extra work involved and 
 potentially reaching more observers than the text alert system. I 
 highly recommend using BirdLog NA for all your sightings!
 The RBA system still has the advantage of immediacy reaching flip 
 phones, but can detract from the personal experience just a little. I 
 don't feel the same loss when using BirdLog and will advocate that 
 others try it and judge for themselves.
 This comes from a dedicated notebook user.

 Gary



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[cayugabirds-l] Ladoga Point

[Carl Steckler]

At the risk of showing my ignorance, just where is viewing allowed at 
Ladoga Point? It looks like the entire site consists of private homes.

Just asking
Thanks
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Hawk ID

[Carl Steckler]

Going through my photos of Cooper's hawks and Sharp-shinned Hawks I 
can't decide which is which. If anyone would like to try and help me 
sort this out please let me know and I will send you copies of the Hawks.

Thanks
Carl Steckler

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[cayugabirds-l] Coopers Hawk Dryden

[Carl Steckler]

Nice Coopers Hawk in my backyard on Simms Hill Rd., Dryden. Making my 
feeder birds nervous.

Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Birding information

[Carl Steckler]

This may sound a little nit-picky, but when reporting a bird sighting 
could those reporting please give a location and not use local 
references or not so well known initials.

Some of us flunked Mind Reading 101  (humorous smiley face assumed)
Thanks
Carl Steckler


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Belle School Rd - CL Basin or Not?

[Carl Steckler]

Considering that we accept MNWR as being in the basin isn't it just 
academic to be asking which side of a road the birds were? Just saying:?)

Carl Steckler

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[cayugabirds-l] Niagra Falls Birding Trip

[Carl Steckler]

When asking Kevin McGowan as to the date of this years trip to Niagara 
Falls he informed me that he was not leading this years trip. Does 
anyone know who, if anyone, will be leading this trip? Will there be a 
trip this year?

thanks
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[cayugabirds-l] Avocet MNWR

[Carl Steckler]

Avocet still at Eaton Marsh despite snow

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[cayugabirds-l] Avocet

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still at marsh in plain sight now

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[cayugabirds-l] OT: Shutter bruin

[Carl Steckler]

Yes...he ate the birdie...



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] [OneidaBirds] Stony Point Wheatear - Yes

[Carl Steckler]

Can someone give the complete location for this bird?
Thanks
Carl Steckler


On 9/21/2014 17:06, Drew Weber wrote:
 Address for the wheatear is 11162 Whitney Rd. Still present.

 Drew Weber
 drewwe...@gmail.com mailto:drewwe...@gmail.com
 484.269.6009



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[cayugabirds-l] Wheatear

[Carl Steckler]

Anyone from this area going up to see if is still there?
Please let me know if you have room.
Thanks
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[cayugabirds-l] Black cardinal

[Carl Steckler]

This morning I had a very unusual bird at my feeders. It was a Cardinal 
with a red head and black mask, but the body was black. By the time I 
went to get my camera it was gone. I have set up my wildlife camera in 
hopes that it will come back and I can get a photo of it.

Has anyone else seen this bird?
Carl Steckler


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[cayugabirds-l] RBA text aleart system

[Carl Steckler]

A number of birders have commented about re instituting a text based RBA 
system like the one we once had that was managed by Dave Nutter. As I 
understand that the old system went away because there was going to be 
charge for the service. I am wondering if a similar system could be set 
up with a small fee for subscription to cover the costs would readers of 
this list be interested?


Right now I either get alerts from this list  via e-mail or  Ebird RBA 
alerts ( which are a day old). I would like to know if there is enough 
interest in having an instant RBA  text system again?


If there are enough people interested I would be willing to manage the 
system, but I would need the help of someone who understands this kind 
of system better than I do to help get it set up.


If you are interested please let me know by PM at c...@cornell.edu and 
use RBA Text as the subject.

Thanks
Carl Steckler

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Foot Traffic on the Wildlife Drive at the Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge

[Carl Steckler]

I have to respectively disagree with your conclusion and decision to 
curtail people getting out of their cars on the wildlife drive.
First viewing is severely restricted by the vegetation that has been 
allowed to grow along the drive necessitating that one get out of the 
car to see anything that is not flying.


Second the traffic of the personnel working on the terraforming causes 
much more disruption. I realize that this is necessary, but it does 
cause more disruption than foot traffic. This would be compounded by 
providing and maintaining additional stops along the drive.


Third the complaints you have received have come from a very few people. 
If you were to conduct a survey you would find that most people have no 
problem with others getting out of the car and in fact end up seeing 
much more of the wildlife they come to see. If you want a pristine 
refuge with a severely restricted viewing public either close the gates 
or have everyone ride on buses to view wildlife.


Fourth what you will create is a situation where your inforcement 
officers will have to spend much more of their limited time herding the 
viewing public back into their cars instead of their much more important 
jobs.


Fifth in reality the problem is very much self regulating. Most people 
who get out of their cars do so for short periods and if they see 
someone going toff the road will say something.  You would have a much 
better use of your limited funds by allowing people to be out of their 
cars on the drive and posting signs to stay on the drive.


Sixth your proposal would severely limit the use of the wildlife drive 
to educational groups where there are several vehicles in a group.  
Those in the front will see something while those further back will not. 
Also this will curtail the use of using a spotting scope to view 
wildlife that is not close to the drive.


In conclusion please rethink your decision to restrict the drive and 
make it more friendly to the viewing public who in reality own and pay 
for the refuge. I do believe that the intended purpose in allowing the 
viewing public is part of your mandate. Perhaps you should invite some 
of your users to meet with and comment to your policy makers.

Thank you
Carl Steckler
607 592 8798

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[cayugabirds-l] Least Bittern

[Carl Steckler]

At least 4 if not 5 Least Bitterns Larues Lagoon MNWR
On the right of the drive

Moorhens with small chicks on left side of drive opposite lagoon
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Dryden Kestrals

[Carl Steckler]

It looks like the Kestrels on Dutcher Rd in Dryden have fledged, but all
three are staying in vicinity of the nest box.
Good views of all three birds.
Carl steckler

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[cayugabirds-l] Kestrel update

[Carl Steckler]

I just saw two little Kestrel faces peering out of the nest box on Dutcher
Rd
So there are five in all
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Monk Parakeets

[Carl Steckler]

Monk Parakeets

Meg and I were treated to a great view of these birds, flying in tandem and
adding to their large nest.
Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] Kestrel Nest Box Occupied Dryden

[Carl Steckler]

There is an occupied Kestrel nest box on Dutcher Rd. about 1/2 mile west 
of Rt. 13 in the town of Dryden. It is on a telephone pole on the right 
hand side of the road. Dutcher Rd. is off Rt. 13 north of Dryden just 
past Lily's Tack and Feed, turn left. If you see a green Jeep parked 
there it will be me.

Carl Steckler

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[cayugabirds-l] Salmon Creek Bird Santuary

[Carl Steckler]

Salmon creek bird sanctuary
Lpts of Baltimore Orioles a few Cerulear Warblers, no Cuckoos
Carl

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Salmon Creek Bird Santuary

[Carl Steckler]

On 6/4/2014 17:14, John Greenly wrote:
Yes, this is great news!! there have been none there for a number of 
years.  I've heard none up to now. Can you say exactly where your 
found them?


--John Greenly
About 50 feet North of the intersection on he East side. It was there 
with a Blue-winged warbler twenty feet further on.,

Carl

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[cayugabirds-l] CBC Field Trip Sat May 31

[Carl Steckler]

Meg and I will be leading a field trip this Sat. to the Demeree tree 
farm on Lick Rd. Just North of Rt. 90. This is a special trip as the 
tree farm is normally off limits, but we have permission for this one 
time only trip.
Meet at Lab Of O parking lot at 7:30 AM. Trip will be 1/2 day weather 
permitting. You do not have to be a CBC member to come along.

Carl Steckler

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[cayugabirds-l] Trip To Watertown to find Ptarmigan

[Carl Steckler]

I am thinking of going up to Watertown to find the Willow Ptarmigan and 
wounder if anyone would like to go along? I can seat 3. Thinking Wed or 
Thurs unless sightings stop.

If interested please e-mail me at c...@cornell.edu.
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[cayugabirds-l] Am Bittern Wilson North

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Am Bittern by benches west of Sherwood platform
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] House Finch question

[Carl Steckler]

On 5/9/2014 09:31, bilba...@pop.lightlink.com wrote:

While we have at least 2 pairs of Purple Finches and more Goldfinches than
I can easily count,  as well as usual numbers of other common species, from
what I have noticed we have no House Finches around at all,  which is very
unusual. Is this just here or are others finding less than usual
numbers?



I have just the opposite, except for the Goldfinches, lots of House 
Finches, no Purple Finches here in Dryden.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Prarigan

[Carl Steckler]

On 4/26/2014 11:49, Ann Mitchell wrote:
 Willow Prarigan
Do you mean /Willow Ptarmigan?
Where exactlyt?
Carl
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Royal Terns at Myer's Spit

[Carl Steckler]

On 4/24/2014 10:41, Christopher Wood wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I believe these are Caspian Terns. There is quite a bit of variation 
 in bill color of Caspians and they can puff up the rear of their crown 
 to make them appear a bit more like Royal Tern. Royal would have a 
 thinner bill that is more orange in color (sometimes at this time of 
 year they can appear quite red) and pale underside of the wings in 
 flight. Perhaps the easiest way to tell the two apart here, is that 
 Royal isn't here.

 Royals occasionally stray north, but inland birds are exceptional with 
 almost all showing up during a hurricane. One would not find a flock 
 (or probably even a lone bird) on Cayuga Lake without a hurricane or 
 other exceptional weather.

 Chris

 Chris Wood

Meg and I just came from Myers. Based on my photos I would have to agree 
with Chris that these are Caspian Terns, not Royal. The bill has a dark 
tip with a little bit of yellow at the very tip.
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