Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk (zone-tailed hawk?)

2014-06-16 Thread John Greenly
Nice Zone-tail photo, thanks! this comparison nicely shows what I was trying to say about the straight trailing edge of Zone-tailed, no secondary bulge. Also shows the Zone-tailed's light feet showing clearly against the dark undertail coverts. Okay, I'll stick my neck out and say that even

Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk (zone-tailed hawk?)

2014-06-16 Thread Christopher Dalton
Hi Cayuga birders, I have been following the discussion with interest and enjoying the back and forth. I have to admit, that my initial impressions were the same as Dave Nutter's - I thought the first photo was a red-tail and the others were of a backlit Broad-winged Hawk. I just thought the secon

Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk (zone-tailed hawk?)

2014-06-16 Thread Ray Zimmerman
It is not something that I noticed, but I didn’t look for it specifically either. Ray On Jun 16, 2014, at 1:40 PM, John Greenly wrote: > Ray, one question: when you were observing through binocs, did you by any > chance notice yellow feet, or see the feet clearly as showing up > light-c

Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk (zone-tailed hawk?)

2014-06-16 Thread John Greenly
Ray, one question: when you were observing through binocs, did you by any chance notice yellow feet, or see the feet clearly as showing up light-colored against the black undertail coverts? A quite noticeable feature of Zone-tailed as I remember. --John On Jun 16, 2014, at 1:10 PM, Ray Zi

Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk (zone-tailed hawk?)

2014-06-16 Thread Ray Zimmerman
Thanks everyone for the helpful discussion and sorry for my silence (busy with life). Here’s a bit more information. First of all, I’ve added a few more photos, of even worse quality :-/ Here’s an updated link … https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nm25xfhyarydgxg/AAAvRHHfszKtNmiLRVoy-LYWa To recap,