Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over
Hi everyone Thank you for all of the stimulating and informative answers! Ice is interesting. My favorite ice image this year was the snowy owl at Stewart Park gently bobbing up and down on a small chunk of ice at dusk. -Liisa Liisa Mobley On Feb 9, 2014 6:30 PM, Tom wrote: Linda, Didn't the Lake actually freeze from shore to shore @ Aurora in '78-'79 when Sissy Farenthold declared it so & cancelled Wells classes? And Ms Mobley, A short answer to why Seneca & Cayuga don't freeze easily is that they are examples of the "surface area to volume" problem. Although their absolute depth isn't as great as the Great Lakes, their shape means their surface area is small compared to their depth and volume. Since heat is lost thru the surface, they don't cool as fast as lakes w/ larger relative surfaces areas. In addition, they both lie in a general NW-SE orientation, with a long "fetch" to the prevailing NW winds, which keep the water stirred up. When they do freeze, it's most likely after a series of very clear, very calm nights, when cold water (>4 C) can accumulate and freeze on the surface. Once there's enough ice to resist break-up when winds resume, the lake will remain frozen with ice and 0 C water at the top and 4 C water all the way to the bottom. Physical limnology is very "cool"! Tom Vawter Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk wrote: > > As of noon today, Cayuga was pretty much frozen from Chris's hill north. > Chris's hill is the big rise north of Levanna, if one doesn't know local > names. South of that, the lake was a combination of frozen patches and open > patches. This is the most ice I've seen since 1994, and then it didn't last, > since 1994 was windy, though it was also cold. > > -Original Message- > From: bounce-112539549-3493...@list.cornell.edu > [mailto:bounce-112539549-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 8:29 AM > To: CAYUGABIRDS-L > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over > > The full answer about the reluctance of Cayuga and especially Seneca to > completely freeze over is a bit complicated, but a primer on the physical > limnology can be read here: > > http://www.gflrpc.org/Publications/SenecaLakeWMP/chap6a.pdf > > -Geo Kloppel > >> On Feb 9, 2014, at 7:20 AM, "Liisa S. Mobley" wrote: >> >> There's been a bit of discussion about the Finger Lakes freezing over, as >> well as the Great Lakes, on the Cayuga Birds list in recent weeks. I came >> across this article from one of the channel 9 (Syracuse) weathermen, which >> indicates that the Great Lakes, as of last Friday, had more than 79% of >> their surface area frozen. >>> Great Lakes Freezing Over: Dave Eichorn's Blog http://bit.ly/1gcubdX >> >> Where do all the birds go? Lake Ontario is only about half frozen, so maybe >> they go there. >> >> You'll notice in the photo that Cayuga and Seneca are not frozen. Not >> sure why they don't freeze over, too. And, no, they are not deeper >> than the Great Lakes, except for Erie. (This is kind of bugging me, >> so let me know if you have a good answer!) -Liisa >> >> Liisa Mobley >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave >> .htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeav
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over
Yeah, global warming is happening alright, you just have to look around. According to the arctic weather web site http://www.athropolis.com/temperature/coldreport2.php due north of us in Nunavut is cold, but Barrow, Alaska has been consistently warmer than Ithaca for weeks, and is currently ten degrees F above us. Hammerfest, Norway and Murmansk, Russia are warmer than we are, and Tiski and Pevek, Russia on the Arctic Ocean in Siberia are over 54 degrees F!!! Siberia in the 50s in February? That's just wrong. Kevin -Original Message- From: bounce-112540398-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-112540398-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Carl Steckler Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:14 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over With both Miliken Station ( or what ever it is called now) and the Cornell lake source cooling adding warm water it almost impossible for the lake to completely freeze over, there will always be some open water. It really is just a matter of how much. Also for the record, having lived in the area except from 1966- 1972, since 1948 and I have never seen the lake completely freeez over even in the mid 1980s when we had -20 weather for two weeks. Besides, were supposed to be having "Global Warming" aren't we? :?) Carl Steckler -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over
My grandmother's photo album contains some photos of the famous 1912 Seneca Lake freeze-over. Hasn't happened again since then. -Geo Kloppel On Feb 9, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Ann Mitchell wrote: > My understanding is that the lake completely froze over was 1912. If someone > has a different date, that would be great! Ann > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk wrote: >> >> As of noon today, Cayuga was pretty much frozen from Chris's hill north. >> Chris's hill is the big rise north of Levanna, if one doesn't know local >> names. South of that, the lake was a combination of frozen patches and open >> patches. This is the most ice I've seen since 1994, and then it didn't >> last, since 1994 was windy, though it was also cold. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: bounce-112539549-3493...@list.cornell.edu >> [mailto:bounce-112539549-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 8:29 AM >> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L >> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over >> >> The full answer about the reluctance of Cayuga and especially Seneca to >> completely freeze over is a bit complicated, but a primer on the physical >> limnology can be read here: >> >> http://www.gflrpc.org/Publications/SenecaLakeWMP/chap6a.pdf >> >> -Geo Kloppel >> >>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 7:20 AM, "Liisa S. Mobley" wrote: >>> >>> There's been a bit of discussion about the Finger Lakes freezing over, as >>> well as the Great Lakes, on the Cayuga Birds list in recent weeks. I came >>> across this article from one of the channel 9 (Syracuse) weathermen, which >>> indicates that the Great Lakes, as of last Friday, had more than 79% of >>> their surface area frozen. >>>> Great Lakes Freezing Over: Dave Eichorn's Blog http://bit.ly/1gcubdX >>> >>> Where do all the birds go? Lake Ontario is only about half frozen, so >>> maybe they go there. >>> >>> You'll notice in the photo that Cayuga and Seneca are not frozen. Not >>> sure why they don't freeze over, too. And, no, they are not deeper >>> than the Great Lakes, except for Erie. (This is kind of bugging me, >>> so let me know if you have a good answer!) -Liisa >>> >>> Liisa Mobley >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave >>> .htm >>> >>> ARCHIVES: >>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >>> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >>> >>> Please submit your observations to eBird: >>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>> >>> -- >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over
With both Miliken Station ( or what ever it is called now) and the Cornell lake source cooling adding warm water it almost impossible for the lake to completely freeze over, there will always be some open water. It really is just a matter of how much. Also for the record, having lived in the area except from 1966- 1972, since 1948 and I have never seen the lake completely freeez over even in the mid 1980s when we had -20 weather for two weeks. Besides, were supposed to be having "Global Warming" aren't we? :?) Carl Steckler -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over
My understanding is that the lake completely froze over was 1912. If someone has a different date, that would be great! Ann Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk wrote: > > As of noon today, Cayuga was pretty much frozen from Chris's hill north. > Chris's hill is the big rise north of Levanna, if one doesn't know local > names. South of that, the lake was a combination of frozen patches and open > patches. This is the most ice I've seen since 1994, and then it didn't last, > since 1994 was windy, though it was also cold. > > -Original Message- > From: bounce-112539549-3493...@list.cornell.edu > [mailto:bounce-112539549-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 8:29 AM > To: CAYUGABIRDS-L > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over > > The full answer about the reluctance of Cayuga and especially Seneca to > completely freeze over is a bit complicated, but a primer on the physical > limnology can be read here: > > http://www.gflrpc.org/Publications/SenecaLakeWMP/chap6a.pdf > > -Geo Kloppel > >> On Feb 9, 2014, at 7:20 AM, "Liisa S. Mobley" wrote: >> >> There's been a bit of discussion about the Finger Lakes freezing over, as >> well as the Great Lakes, on the Cayuga Birds list in recent weeks. I came >> across this article from one of the channel 9 (Syracuse) weathermen, which >> indicates that the Great Lakes, as of last Friday, had more than 79% of >> their surface area frozen. >>> Great Lakes Freezing Over: Dave Eichorn's Blog http://bit.ly/1gcubdX >> >> Where do all the birds go? Lake Ontario is only about half frozen, so maybe >> they go there. >> >> You'll notice in the photo that Cayuga and Seneca are not frozen. Not >> sure why they don't freeze over, too. And, no, they are not deeper >> than the Great Lakes, except for Erie. (This is kind of bugging me, >> so let me know if you have a good answer!) -Liisa >> >> Liisa Mobley >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave >> .htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over
As of noon today, Cayuga was pretty much frozen from Chris's hill north. Chris's hill is the big rise north of Levanna, if one doesn't know local names. South of that, the lake was a combination of frozen patches and open patches. This is the most ice I've seen since 1994, and then it didn't last, since 1994 was windy, though it was also cold. -Original Message- From: bounce-112539549-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-112539549-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 8:29 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over The full answer about the reluctance of Cayuga and especially Seneca to completely freeze over is a bit complicated, but a primer on the physical limnology can be read here: http://www.gflrpc.org/Publications/SenecaLakeWMP/chap6a.pdf -Geo Kloppel On Feb 9, 2014, at 7:20 AM, "Liisa S. Mobley" wrote: > There's been a bit of discussion about the Finger Lakes freezing over, as > well as the Great Lakes, on the Cayuga Birds list in recent weeks. I came > across this article from one of the channel 9 (Syracuse) weathermen, which > indicates that the Great Lakes, as of last Friday, had more than 79% of their > surface area frozen. >> Great Lakes Freezing Over: Dave Eichorn's Blog http://bit.ly/1gcubdX > > Where do all the birds go? Lake Ontario is only about half frozen, so maybe > they go there. > > You'll notice in the photo that Cayuga and Seneca are not frozen. Not > sure why they don't freeze over, too. And, no, they are not deeper > than the Great Lakes, except for Erie. (This is kind of bugging me, > so let me know if you have a good answer!) -Liisa > > Liisa Mobley > Sent from my iPhone > > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave > .htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over
Historically, Lake Superior did freeze over entirely. The current open water during winter allows for much greater evaporation that would occur if the ice cover were 100%. One of the major contributors to the drop in the level of the Great Lakes is the additional winter evaporation associated with the reduction/absence of ice cover. Lakes Seneca and Cayuga are oriented somewhat in the direction of prevailing storms. In winter the temperature of both lakes is within 0.1C top to bottom as a consequence of mixing of water from top to bottom related to prevailing winds. For both lakes to freeze at the top for the entire length, it would be necessary for the entire water column to loose enough heat to be very close to 0C. As long as the power plant continues to release a great deal of heat to the surface, Cayuga Lake will never freeze 100%, even without any effect of global climate change. The concentration of redheads in Cayuga Lake is a consequence of keeping some shallow areas open due to water movement from the deeper areas that don't freeze. Other, shallow lakes in this area do freeze over 100% so that there is no way that diving ducks can get food. (PS: This may seem odd coming from a birder, but my grad work was in limnology with half the research since grad school was on lakes.) John Confer On 2/9/2014 7:20 AM, Liisa S. Mobley wrote: > There's been a bit of discussion about the Finger Lakes freezing over, as > well as the Great Lakes, on the Cayuga Birds list in recent weeks. I came > across this article from one of the channel 9 (Syracuse) weathermen, which > indicates that the Great Lakes, as of last Friday, had more than 79% of their > surface area frozen. >> Great Lakes Freezing Over: Dave Eichorn's Blog >> http://bit.ly/1gcubdX > Where do all the birds go? Lake Ontario is only about half frozen, so maybe > they go there. > > You'll notice in the photo that Cayuga and Seneca are not frozen. Not sure > why they don't freeze over, too. And, no, they are not deeper than the Great > Lakes, except for Erie. (This is kind of bugging me, so let me know if you > have a good answer!) > -Liisa > > Liisa Mobley > Sent from my iPhone > > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --<>
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over
The full answer about the reluctance of Cayuga and especially Seneca to completely freeze over is a bit complicated, but a primer on the physical limnology can be read here: http://www.gflrpc.org/Publications/SenecaLakeWMP/chap6a.pdf -Geo Kloppel On Feb 9, 2014, at 7:20 AM, "Liisa S. Mobley" wrote: > There's been a bit of discussion about the Finger Lakes freezing over, as > well as the Great Lakes, on the Cayuga Birds list in recent weeks. I came > across this article from one of the channel 9 (Syracuse) weathermen, which > indicates that the Great Lakes, as of last Friday, had more than 79% of their > surface area frozen. >> Great Lakes Freezing Over: Dave Eichorn's Blog >> http://bit.ly/1gcubdX > > Where do all the birds go? Lake Ontario is only about half frozen, so maybe > they go there. > > You'll notice in the photo that Cayuga and Seneca are not frozen. Not sure > why they don't freeze over, too. And, no, they are not deeper than the Great > Lakes, except for Erie. (This is kind of bugging me, so let me know if you > have a good answer!) > -Liisa > > Liisa Mobley > Sent from my iPhone > > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Article about great lakes freezing over
There's been a bit of discussion about the Finger Lakes freezing over, as well as the Great Lakes, on the Cayuga Birds list in recent weeks. I came across this article from one of the channel 9 (Syracuse) weathermen, which indicates that the Great Lakes, as of last Friday, had more than 79% of their surface area frozen. > Great Lakes Freezing Over: Dave Eichorn's Blog > http://bit.ly/1gcubdX Where do all the birds go? Lake Ontario is only about half frozen, so maybe they go there. You'll notice in the photo that Cayuga and Seneca are not frozen. Not sure why they don't freeze over, too. And, no, they are not deeper than the Great Lakes, except for Erie. (This is kind of bugging me, so let me know if you have a good answer!) -Liisa Liisa Mobley Sent from my iPhone -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --