Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Geo Kloppel
If it's true that the issue has already been resolved (last year, as Ken suggests), perhaps the city should take a cue from other regional entities (the State Parks, the Finger Lakes Land Trust, the Finger Lakes Trail Conference, the Arnot Teaching Forest, etc.), and just post the rule

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Carl Steckler
Yet another good reason to buy a Duck Stamp. That way you can show your support for conservation and that you are not against their activity per say, just the location. I am willing to bet that if you showed that you too had a duck stamp and explained your concern that this is a city park

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread bob mcguire
Thanks, Dave, for staying with this. The City code is clear: No person shall carry, transport or possess any firearm of any nature in the park, but this section shall not apply to duly constituted peace officers. Limited use of archery equipment, supervised as part of a program provided by the

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Guns in the park

2015-11-13 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
Hi all, Just a reminder, as a few seem to forget each year, of some key points: Hunting is LEGAL. Guns are LEGAL. Harassing legal hunting activity is a CRIME. Birding, hunting and other wholesome outdoor activities are NOT mutually exclusive. And one personal observation. The sight of a gun

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Elaina M. McCartney
ailto:nutter.d...@mac.com>>, Laura Stenzler <l...@cornell.edu<mailto:l...@cornell.edu>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park Dave, thanks for sharing your encounter with the List, because this potentially affects anyone who intends to go birding at Stewart Par

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Geo Kloppel
afety. Kayaked > > disrupting the hunt could pose a public safety concern... > > > > -Geo > > > From: bounce-119893064-3493...@list.cornell.edu > [mailto:bounce-119893064-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of bob mcguire > Sent: Friday, November 13,

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Guns in the park

2015-11-13 Thread Jim Borden
Amen Gary. You said what I tried to say in a clearer manner Jim Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 13, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Gary Kohlenberg wrote: > > Hi all, > > Just a reminder, as a few seem to forget each year, of some key points: > > Hunting is LEGAL. > > Guns are LEGAL.

RE: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
tter <nutter.d...@mac.com> Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>; rmann...@twcny.rr.com Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park Thanks, Dave, for staying with this. The City code is clear: No person shall carry, transport or possess any firearm of any nature in t

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Peter
Dave wrote: "After the cops drove off, the leader of the guys, the big one, said I had won today, but if this happened again they'd call the cops on me for harassing them. I asked, if what happens?" Great come-back Dave. I guess they don't understand that if they obey the

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Kevin Koss
If one goes to the City of Ithaca code site (ecode 360) and searches "guns" or "hunting", you will find information on the ban on the discharge of a gun in the city and also of the ban on hunting in the city. The word "firearms" will direct to Article ll which defines the restriction in Stewart

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread David Diaz
My guess is that these hunters thought they were conducting themselves in a manner consistent with NYSDEC regs, meaning that they have the right to waterfowl hunt on Cayuga Lake as long they don't fire in the direction of a dwelling that's less than 500' away (among other things). They also

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Kenneth V. Rosenberg
Hi all, Before this annual listserv discussion escalates once again, I would like to point out the whole issue of hunting within the Ithaca city limits was discussed with the Mayor and city government last winter and, from what I heard, resolved. John Dennis — Ithaca resident and birder — led

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Deirdre Anderson
Although I am no longer an Ithaca resident, it warms my heart to see that as always, Dave is looking out for his fellow birders and the citizens of Ithaca by standing up to those men. Keep up the good work Dave and please keep posting your birding adventures! They make me feel like I am back

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Guns in the park

2015-11-13 Thread Linda Orkin
I stand in support of Dave Nutter's account of illegal carrying of guns in a park where birders and other non-consumptive users congregate. It is important to alert people to a potentially dangerous situation. I can see this thread is quickly going to degenerate into pro versus con but I

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Jim Borden
I have an issue with this being on the bird list--each of us may I have our phobias and this list is no place for politics--the tenor of the description of the incident makes it political for methe mere mention of guns around the kids is a biased statement all by itself. On 11/13/2015 7:54

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
Dave, thanks for sharing your encounter with the List, because this potentially affects anyone who intends to go birding at Stewart Park or in the nearby areas, if this kind of activity is seasonally permitted from such a widely and publicly used space. Does the Cayuga Bird Club have an

Re: [cayugabirds-l] guns at Stewart Park

2015-11-13 Thread Laura Stenzler
Dave, It is great that you followed through on all of this! It sounds like an intimidating situation, but you did not back down. I think it would be worthwhile to share your experience with your city representative and the Major. I just read in the Ithaca Journal this morning that all Ithaca