Re: [ccp4bb] Effect of NCS on estimate of data:parameter ratio

2010-09-21 Thread Ian Tickle
Dirk, One thing I should have added: The expected Rfree/Rwork ratio comes out as: Rfree/Rwork sqrt((f+m')/(f-m')) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Ian Tickle ianj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dirk First, constraints are just a special case of restraints in the limit of infinite weights, in fact

Re: [ccp4bb] Effect of NCS on estimate of data:parameter ratio

2010-09-21 Thread Ian Tickle
Dirk, Apologies, my last e-mail was incomplete, I meant to say that there was one thing I should have added: From Table 2 in the paper the expected Rfree/Rwork ratio comes out as: Rfree / Rwork = sqrt( (f+m') / (f-m') ) = sqrt( (x+1) / (x-1) ) where x = f / m' = no of X-ray data /

Re: [ccp4bb] Effect of NCS on estimate of data:parameter ratio

2010-09-21 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Dear Ian, many thanks for your explanations - they've changed my view! I was always a bit puzzled by the supposedly contradictory transition between restraints and constraints with increasing weight, which has been clarified by their effect on the number of parameters, and not on the number

Re: [ccp4bb] Micocrystals or not?

2010-09-21 Thread yang li
Dear All, Thank you for all your replies, I think there are some additional informations about this screening to help judgment: 1. this screening was set in a 0.2+0.2 microliter drop, so the microcrystals(?) are very small. 2. these things came out in different conditions, after

[ccp4bb] Off topic-Detection of protein protein interactions crystallization of weak binding partners

2010-09-21 Thread James Qiu
Dear All, Firstly, sorry for the non-crystallography question but I am trying to do a pulldown assay using Cobalt-NTA resin between two DNA replication proteins one of which contains a C-terminal 6x his tag. According to previous genetic studies, these two proteins are involved in replication

[ccp4bb] heterologous seeding

2010-09-21 Thread Christopher Rife
Hi, I seem to recall a paper from a few years back that used heterologous proteins for macro/micro seeding, and of course now I can't find it. Seems likely that lysozyme would be involved... I've found plenty on using non-protein compounds as seeds, but nothing for protein. Does anyone know

Re: [ccp4bb] how to decide an ideal Weight matrix value in REFMAC

2010-09-21 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Hailiang The short answer is that the optimal X-ray weighting factor minimises Rfree, or better -LLfree. However this is tricky to carry out in practice since it means you have to run several jobs adjusting the weight manually each time to find the optimum.  Also, ideally the same procedure

Re: [ccp4bb] how to decide an ideal Weight matrix value in REFMAC

2010-09-21 Thread Ian Tickle
To give credit where it is due I should perhaps have explained that the formula for RMS-Z(bonds) that I quoted was derived from an analysis of re-refinements from the PDB-REDO project (http://www.cmbi.ru.nl/pdb_redo), not from the PDB itself. PDB-REDO itself uses the LLfree optimisation method

Re: [ccp4bb] how to decide an ideal Weight matrix value in REFMAC

2010-09-21 Thread Hailiang Zhang
Hi Ian: Thanks a lot! I have 2 questions: (1). Can I say the X-ray weighting is optimal when it yields the smallest Rfree, meanwhile RMS-Z(bonds) is smaller than 0.85 - 0.146*resolution (angles also maybe)? (2). Why RMS-Z(bonds) should be lower than that for low resolution data and higher for

Re: [ccp4bb] how to decide an ideal Weight matrix value in REFMAC

2010-09-21 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
(2). Why RMS-Z(bonds) should be lower than that for low resolution data and higher for high resolution? Or why high-resolution can allows more outliers? Imagine torsion angle refinement only, at low resolution: The bond lengths are fixed to target values, their rmsd will be zero. Imagine free

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic-Detection of protein protein interactions crystallization of weak binding partners

2010-09-21 Thread James Qiu
Dear Filip, Thank you for your advice, in my lab there is a discussion where a senior investigator who suggested that if you cannot see evidence of an interaction by coomassie then you have no chance of crystallizing the complex. I disagreed but I did not have a reference to support my stance.

Re: [ccp4bb] Whither pymol?

2010-09-21 Thread Herbert J. Bernstein
Dear Colleagues, There is a nice pymol source code repository on sourceforge at http://pymol.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pymol/ and you can make perfectly reasonable builds from that source. I append a copy of the license in that repository below. The terms are quite simple and reasonable.

Re: [ccp4bb] Whither pymol?

2010-09-21 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Tuesday 21 September 2010, William G. Scott wrote: Hi Citizens: I have an invoice for a PyMol academic 3 year subscription through March 31, 2011, invoice #2794. When I enter my subscription access credentials into the pymol.org web server, nothing happens. The source code is no

Re: [ccp4bb] Whither pymol?

2010-09-21 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:10 PM, William G. Scott wgsc...@chemistry.ucsc.edu wrote: In fact, the only source-code I can find for pymol is on the fink mirror, for the OS X fink package I have been maintaining, i.e., http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/pymol-1.3-src.tar.bz2 How about

[ccp4bb] Intermolecular Bonding Energy Calculation Program / Server

2010-09-21 Thread Ching-I Wang
Dear CCP4i citizens, I have been looking for online servers or programs that identify and calculate the intermolecular bonding energy, such as cation-pi, H-bond, salt bridge...etc, which can be used as a guide to prioritise the binding site residues for mutational studies. I have been using