Re: [ccp4bb] unusual bond lengths in PRODRG cif file

2012-01-09 Thread krish
Dear Shveta, I have seen similar trends with PRODRG. I recommend you to use other molecular modeling programs like Hyperchem or Maestro to get more consistent geometric parameters for small molecules. Once you know the bondlengths and bond angles from aforesaid molecular modeling programs, you

Re: [ccp4bb] unusual bond lengths in PRODRG cif file

2012-01-09 Thread Paul Emsley
On 09/01/12 06:13, Shveta Bisht wrote: I need advise on the way I have run prodrg and the explanations for the results. There is little room for manoeuvre when running prodrg. Prodrg is not the Font of All Ligand Wisdom. Prodrg makes mistakes. If you think that the bond lengths are wrong,

[ccp4bb] R-Sym statistics in solved structures

2012-01-09 Thread Guillaume Gotthard
Dear all, Is there a mean to obtain statistics about R-Sym for deposited structures databases ? I know it is possible for R-Free values but is it the case also for R-Sym ? Guillaume Gotthard, PhD student Biocristallography, Biotechnology and Structural Enzymology Group URMITE Laboratory - UMR

Re: [ccp4bb] Structure Determination combining X-ray Data and NMR

2012-01-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
1) You say 3000 reflections - 400 parameters, but you arent including the restraints as observations - refinement and rebuilding IS possible at 3.2A.. 2) B factors not unreasonable for the data.. You may want to use fixed Bs with TLS or restrain Bs strictly.. 3) How can your FreeR and r

Re: [ccp4bb] R-Sym statistics in solved structures

2012-01-09 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Guillaume, I am not sure which database you refer to, but for every structure deposited at the PDB since 2007, the data are available, too. The PDB-header might report R_sym as should the publication. Buy the whey, you should better get used

Re: [ccp4bb] R-Sym statistics in solved structures

2012-01-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Dont forget Rsym and Rmerge are one and the same I believe.. Eleanor On 01/09/2012 11:05 AM, Tim Gruene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Guillaume, I am not sure which database you refer to, but for every structure deposited at the PDB since 2007, the data are

Re: [ccp4bb] unusual bond lengths in PRODRG cif file

2012-01-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Thank you Shveta for NOTICING!!! Please - everyone - check your restraints - programs make mistakes - you (or the chemist who made the ligand) - are the experts Eleanor On 01/09/2012 10:05 AM, krish wrote: Dear Shveta, I have seen similar trends with PRODRG. I recommend you to use

Re: [ccp4bb] chirality problem

2012-01-09 Thread Paul Emsley
On 08/01/12 10:36, ccp4 wrote: Won't coot fix the nomenclature issue, then you can check whether you have a real chirality problem - eg a squashed flattened VAL.. It will indeed [1]. So Afshan need only read in the file, Press OK and then Save. Robbie and I think that it is more likely

Re: [ccp4bb] chirality problem

2012-01-09 Thread Phil Evans
The problem with fixing the nomenclature problems in Coot is that they are back again after the next round of refinement (or at least some of them are, if they are right on the edge of an arbitrary distinction) - indeed irritating Phil On 9 Jan 2012, at 11:43, Paul Emsley wrote: On 08/01/12

Re: [ccp4bb] chirality problem

2012-01-09 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Phil, It is annoying problem especially for Phe and Tyr which have standard rotamers close to the critical chi angles (-90 and +90). Asp and Glu do not have standard rotamers near critical angles, so the problem should be much smaller (but I still get them too often). If Val, Leu and Arg

Re: [ccp4bb] chirality problem

2012-01-09 Thread Phil Evans
That looks to me as if the critical Chi definitions are inappropriate for Phe Tyr! On 9 Jan 2012, at 12:24, Robbie Joosten wrote: Hi Phil, It is annoying problem especially for Phe and Tyr which have standard rotamers close to the critical chi angles (-90 and +90). Asp and Glu do not

Re: [ccp4bb] unusual bond lengths in PRODRG cif file

2012-01-09 Thread Ian Tickle
On 9 January 2012 06:13, Shveta Bisht shv...@mbu.iisc.ernet.in wrote: Dear all I have generated a refmac cif file for a molecule using PRODRG. I used JME editor to draw the molecule and ran PRODRG online with the options: Chirality-Yes, Charges-Reduced and EM-Yes. Please check the

Re: [ccp4bb] unusual bond lengths in PRODRG cif file

2012-01-09 Thread Soisson, Stephen M
I will second Ian's recommendation for GRADE from the Global Phasing group. GRADE overcomes nearly all of the shortcomings we have encountered with other approaches for ligand dictionary generation. Best- Steve -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board

Re: [ccp4bb] R-Sym statistics in solved structures

2012-01-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 10:28 +, Guillaume Gotthard wrote: Is there a mean to obtain statistics about R-Sym for deposited structures databases ? 1. It's actually quite easy to do on your own if you want. This one-liner will get you the Rsym wget

Re: [ccp4bb] R-Sym statistics in solved structures

2012-01-09 Thread Jacob Keller
Also R cryst is sometimes used for the same number, I think (of course there are historical reasons for the different terms, but...). JPK On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 10:28 +, Guillaume Gotthard wrote: Is there a mean to

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2012-01-09 Thread Martyn Winn
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2012-01-09 Thread Jordi Juanhuix
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Re: [ccp4bb] cif_mmdic.lib

2012-01-09 Thread Marcin Wojdyr
Dear Bernhard, a) will be fixed in the next release by changing %MMCIFDIC%; for now the workaround is what you wrote. Thanks for reporting it. d) it's ok, ccp4-6.2.2.msi is a new packages for version 6.2.0. Someone else may address b) and c) Regards, Marcin

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[ccp4bb] Sub-angstrom resolution

2012-01-09 Thread Theresa H. Hsu
Dear crystallographers A theoretical question - can sub-angstrom resolution structures only be obtained for a limited set of proteins? Is it impossible to achieve for membrane proteins and large complexes? Theresa

Re: [ccp4bb] Sub-angstrom resolution

2012-01-09 Thread Cale Dakwar
In theory, no: sub-angstrom resolution can be obtained for any and all proteins, including membrane proteins, and for large complexes. In reality, it becomes technically very difficult to achieve; you would need ever-colder temperatures and ever-stronger irradiation sources. P.S. In theory, the

Re: [ccp4bb] Sub-angstrom resolution

2012-01-09 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, in my opinion the resolution limit of crystals from large complexes/ membrane proteins is more likely due to lattice imperfections and long-range disorder, and cold neither cold temperatures nor stronger radiation sources would circumvent this

Re: [ccp4bb] Sub-angstrom resolution

2012-01-09 Thread Jacob Keller
The word theory in this thread/question has to be clarified better. Jacob On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, in my opinion the resolution limit of crystals from large complexes/ membrane proteins is

Re: [ccp4bb] Sub-angstrom resolution

2012-01-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 18:15 +, Theresa H. Hsu wrote: Dear crystallographers A theoretical question - can sub-angstrom resolution structures only be obtained for a limited set of proteins? Is it impossible to achieve for membrane proteins and large complexes? Theresa On the matter

Re: [ccp4bb] Sub-angstrom resolution

2012-01-09 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Monday, January 09, 2012 11:37:23 am Ed Pozharski wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 18:15 +, Theresa H. Hsu wrote: Dear crystallographers A theoretical question - can sub-angstrom resolution structures only be obtained for a limited set of proteins? Is it impossible to achieve for

Re: [ccp4bb] Structure Determination combining X-ray Data and NMR

2012-01-09 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 04:23:03PM +0800, ?? wrote: Also, there is one more information I forgot to mention---I also have the NMR assignment(HNCACB spectrum) of the protein, is it possible to combine the NMR data in my refinement? Yes - we did something a few years back for the structure

Re: [ccp4bb] unusual bond lengths in PRODRG cif file

2012-01-09 Thread Tom Peat
To elaborate further on software packages available that do a reasonable job of fitting small molecules and outputting reasonable dictionaries, one could consider Afitt from OpenEye Scientific Software. They have academic as well as commercial licenses to their software. Cheers, tom

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular Transform Superimposed on a Dataset

2012-01-09 Thread Jacob Keller
I like that animation a lot, as it shows the gradual nature of the lattice effect, but it is not exactly what I am looking for. I am actually just curious what the pattern behind the spots looks like for various molecules, and would like to see an image of that in various orientations. I guess one