Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear James, You make a very good point. So far we only discussed the option of removing alls side chain atoms except for CB. What if only a few side chain atoms are outside the density? Should we just remove those? If we use the argument that we should remove the atoms we cannot see, then

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Robbie Joosten
Nice one Pavel. PDB_REDO actually runs on these files but it's not pretty. I updated my stripper program to remove all atoms with occ0.00 instead of 0.00 Cheers, Robbie Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 07:26:23 -0700 From: pafon...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-04 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Jacob, The PDB header has a record for missing atoms. Coot has an option to find them and any decent validation software will warn about incomplete residues. There are PDBREPORT entries for every PDB file with a list of incomplete residues. If a user makes a very small effort, he doesn't

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough - DarkMatter Version 1.0

2011-04-01 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Ethan, Awsome progress! Really, I looked for other options like such. 2011 will be a good year for crystallography. I should implement this in PDB_REDO. Cheers, Robbie Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 23:06:47 -0700 From: merr...@u.washington.edu Subject: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic Breakthrough

Re: [ccp4bb] The meaning of B-factor, was Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-04-01 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Frank, I described in the previous e-mail the probabilistic interpretation of B-factors. In the case of very high uncertainty = poorly ordered side chains, I prefer to deposit the conformer representing maximum a posteriori, even if it does not represent all possible conformations.

Re: [ccp4bb] very low R factor for twin refinement

2011-02-10 Thread Robbie Joosten
detwinning. If you R(-free) is still considerably lower than the one from the 'regular' refinememt then you are a lucky guy and the twinned refinement just brought you to a lower minimum. Cheers, Robbie Joosten Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:36:31 + From: ga...@ysbl.york.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ccp4bb

Re: [ccp4bb] very low R factor for twin refinement

2011-02-10 Thread Robbie Joosten
detwinning. If you R(-free) is still considerably lower than the one from the 'regular' refinememt then you are a lucky guy and the twinned refinement just brought you to a lower minimum. Cheers, Robbie Joosten Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:36:31 + From: ga...@ysbl.york.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ccp4bb

Re: [ccp4bb] quality homology model

2011-02-08 Thread Robbie Joosten
of hydrogen bonds upon folding is quite useful. Just don't expect miracles. Cheers, Robbie Joosten Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:52:09 -0800 From: eid...@blur.compbio.ucsf.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] quality homology model To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Hi Susy, Before going

Re: [ccp4bb] quality homology model

2011-02-08 Thread Robbie Joosten
of hydrogen bonds upon folding is quite useful. Just don't expect miracles. Cheers, Robbie Joosten Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:52:09 -0800 From: eid...@blur.compbio.ucsf.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] quality homology model To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Hi Susy, Before going

Re: [ccp4bb] So many clashes

2011-01-18 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear Careina, Keep in mind that MolPrrobity does not see symmetry (unlike RefDens or WHAT_CHECK). This means that the clashes that may come from having the wrong spacegroup are not detected. Good luck, Robbie Joosten Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:52:48 +0100 From: mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es

Re: [ccp4bb] Mg2+ or water

2010-12-21 Thread Robbie Joosten
+ From: paul.ems...@bioch.ox.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Mg2+ or water To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK On 20/12/10 21:48, Robbie Joosten wrote: Also note that Mg2+ is significantly smaller than water. It fits in places where water cannot go. This doesn't look like a magnesium site

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.2.0019 question

2010-12-20 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear Hailiang, I regularly separate TLS refinement from restraint refinement to spead things up when I try to optimise the restraint weights. Using Refmac 5.6, I do the following: - Do TLS Refinement in refmac - Use TLSanl to change the total B-factors to residual B-factors. - Load the output

[ccp4bb] Protein structures and/or X-ray crystallography in TV shows

2010-12-09 Thread Robbie Joosten
diagram of a tripeptide with 'R1', 'R2' and 'R3' at the side chain positions). Do any of you know nicer examples (preferably with episode title/number)? Best wishes, Robbie Joosten

Re: [ccp4bb] How to add methyl group on the NZ atom of lysine

2010-11-04 Thread Robbie Joosten
position in the file (otherwise real-space refinement won't work). You probably also need to make LINK records, which you can copy from an existing PDB file (1xer has the links you need). Helix-Turn-Helix, Robbie Joosten Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 09:04:53 -0400

Re: [ccp4bb] Against Method (R)

2010-10-29 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Bart, I agree with the building strategy you propose, but at some point it stops helping and a bit more attention to detail is needed. Reciprocal space refinement doesn't seem to do the fine details. It always surprises me how much atoms still move when you real-space refine a refined

Re: [ccp4bb] Bug in c_truncate?

2010-10-29 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Phil, I do, but the freeR flag problem is easily circumvented. One can just use cad with the output mtz from ctruncate and the input mtz: cad \ HKLIN2 $WORKDIR/raw.mtz \ HKLIN1 $WORKDIR/ctruncate.mtz \ HKLOUT $WORKDIR/ctruncate_withRfree.mtz \ eof $WORKDIR/mtz_creation.log   LABIN FILE 2 

[ccp4bb] Rules of thumb (was diverging Rcryst and Rfree)

2010-10-26 Thread Robbie Joosten
is not complete. I may also have overstated some of the rules to get the discussion going. Any addidtions are welcome. Cheers, Robbie Joosten Netherlands Cancer Institute Apologies if I have missed a recent relevant thread, but are lists of rules of thumb for model building and refinement? Anthony

Re: [ccp4bb] molecule on symmetry axis

2010-10-16 Thread Robbie Joosten
of them seem to be fairly new (pdbids 3[a-n]??). I agree that Jackie should build the whole molecule to make sure all restraints kick in. It's only a little extra work to set the occupancy correctly for all atoms. In Coot one can do that with the 'residue info' option. Cheers, Robbie Joosten

Re: [ccp4bb] unknown density

2010-10-01 Thread Robbie Joosten
or not. I'm guessing it's a HIS so the C11 atom should be a hydrogen bond donor or acceptor. The Residue next to the HIS (ASP or ASN) may tell you more about the protonation of the HIS. This is a fun game. Cheers, Robbie Joosten Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 17:21:31

Re: [ccp4bb] Low-resolution structure refinement with Refmac

2010-08-27 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear Petr, I agree with Tom that there is no need to release the NCS in the final rounds of refinement. You just end up throwing away good work. Perhaps you can tweak the NCS a bit to try to get better results (even though your current results sound fine). It's difficult to set up the right

Re: [ccp4bb] Lactose again

2010-08-17 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear Rex, Beta-lactose is in Ligand-Expo as 'LAT' so I'd stick with that. Regards, Robbie Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:58:27 +0100 From: rex.pal...@btinternet.com Subject: [ccp4bb] Lactose again To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK In Refmac: Does anyone know if lactose should be designated as one

Re: [ccp4bb] Judging a PDB

2010-07-13 Thread Robbie Joosten
at the electron density maps generated by the EDS (http://eds.bmc.uu.se/eds/) or PDB_REDO (http://www.cmbi.ru.nl/pdb_redo). HTH, Robbie Joosten Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:10:37 +0530 From: m.pran...@gmail.com Subject: [ccp4bb] Judging a PDB To: CCP4BB

Re: [ccp4bb] Judging a PDB

2010-07-13 Thread Robbie Joosten
It means that the CMBI's server migration is still ongoing. The problem should be temporary. Cheers, Robbie Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:03:05 -0700 From: xtald...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Judging a PDB To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK On Jul 13, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Robbie Joosten wrote

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of a BUSTER refined structure

2010-03-03 Thread Robbie Joosten
of a percent(age point). Cheers, Robbie Joosten Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:44:18 -0800 From: merr...@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of a BUSTER refined structure To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK On Tuesday 02 March 2010 07:09:47 Melanie Vollmar wrote

Re: [ccp4bb] Distinguishing Between Na+ and H2O

2010-02-16 Thread Robbie Joosten
a 'REMARK 280' to your PDB file it makes checks a bit more reliable. At any rate you should check the suggestions carefully by hand. At high resolution one tends to get alternate waters which really messes up things. Cheers, Robbie Joosten Date: Mon, 15 Feb

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB SEGID Case Sensitivity

2010-02-04 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear James, When reading and writing SEGIDs, why bother making it case unsensitive? Most programming/scripting languages read text case sensitive anyway. Assuming people don't type SEGIDs by hand, differences in capitalization may be significant. When you are generating SEGIDs from

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB SEGID Case Sensitivity [OT]

2010-02-04 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Fred, PS And what I find really annoying is the atom type specified in columns 77-78, since the information is already present in the same line, as CA, N, HG etc. Sometimes I just forget to check what's present in these 2 columns and I have problems with some programs that refuse to run.

Re: [ccp4bb] DSSP server

2010-01-28 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear CCP4BB-ers, The official DSSP is now also available for Intel Macs: http://swift.cmbi.ru.nl/gv/dssp/ We have limited access to Mac computers, so the software is not as thoroughly tested as the Linux and Windows versions. Feel free to send bug reports. Best wishes, Gert Vriend Robbie

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot pudding? (a.k.a N-linked carbohydrate addition)

2009-12-23 Thread Robbie Joosten
. There has already been a lot of improvement in that field lately, so I'm sure we'll get there. Best wishes, Robbie Joosten Best regards, Herman -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Damian Ekiert Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot pudding? (a.k.a N-linked carbohydrate addition)

2009-12-21 Thread Robbie Joosten
requirements. PDB-care and CARP are both very usefull. Unfortunately, the service is currently down (http://www.dkfz.de/spec/glycosciences.de). Just make sure the links between your carbs are correct and, please, remove the O1 atoms when needed ;) Cheers, Robbie Joosten

[ccp4bb] Validation and maps (was: Retraction of 12 Structures...)

2009-12-13 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear Nicholas, Yes we are diverging, but you make a few important and valid points. So let's diverge some more... I fully agree that validation tools should not tell people how to do science. That would kill free thought and lead to circularity in the results. A typical example is the question

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: pdb-l: Retraction of 12 Structures....þ

2009-12-12 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear Fred, People have already done this for all PDB entries: - http://eds.bmc.uu.se/eds/ : maps and many crystallographic stats - http://www.cmbi.ru.nl/pdb_redo : maps and re-refinement. And yes, the stats and maps do improve most of the time, unfortunately also for structures that are not

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: pdb-l: Retraction of 12 Structures...

2009-12-12 Thread Robbie Joosten
Dear Eric Bennett, 3g6a was processed by PDB_REDO (without the original R-free set which sadly wasn't deposited) on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 21:35 CEST with PDB_REDO version 2.6: http://www.cmbi.ru.nl/pdb_redo/g6/3g6a/index.html That was roughly two months after the last revision (the entry is

Re: [ccp4bb] leonard TVþ

2009-10-10 Thread Robbie Joosten
would spend a week per year getting/keeping kids excited about science, we really wouldn't need a TV channel to grasp their attention. My n cents. Cheers, Robbie Joosten

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfree in similar data set#8207;

2009-09-24 Thread Robbie Joosten
; D54:547-557 HTH, Robbie Joosten Netherlands Cancer Institute Amsterdam, The Netherlands Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:37:17 -0700 From: det...@uoxray.uoregon.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Rfree in similar data set To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Yes Dale Tronrud

Re: [ccp4bb] MLY

2009-04-25 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Engin, The latest version of the Refmac dictionary has the correct geometry (and loads of other improvements). You can download it here: http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~garib/refmac/latest_refmac.html Cheers, Robbie Joosten Hi everyone, We just realized in the lab that the dimethyl-lysine

Re: [ccp4bb] 3ftt and gremlins

2009-03-12 Thread Robbie Joosten
have known that there was something wrong with them. Cheers, Robbie Joosten

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking for gremlins in deposited diffraction data

2009-03-07 Thread Robbie Joosten
, an empty set (http://www.cmbi.ru.nl/WHY_NOT/comments_withcomment.action?scomid=10) Cheers, Robbie Joosten Centre for Molecular an Biomolecular Informatics Nijmegen, the Netherlands Well, either there haven't been any replies yet or my institution's email server is unhappy with me (if it's email

[ccp4bb] Rant: B vs TLS, anisou, and PDB headers

2008-03-29 Thread Robbie Joosten
. Cheers, Robbie Joosten From: Winn, MD (Martyn) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 20:57 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] [phenixbb] Rant: B vs TLS, anisou, and PDB headers 2) All you need to reproduce the R-factors are the ATOM records and structure factor formula

Re: [ccp4bb] Slightly off topic, ~H2O/residue vs resolution

2007-05-17 Thread Robbie Joosten
, insanely high B-factors, or are too far away from the other atoms to make hydrogen bonds. To get reasonable numebers you'll have to re-evaluate a numebr of PDB entries. Best wishes, Robbie Joosten Center for Molecular and Biomolecular Informatics Nijmegen, The Netherlands Hello everyone, I would

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