Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-30 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
with c axis reflections including 0, 0, l odd as well as even, which is sort of a hint here From: MARTYN SYMMONS martainn_oshioma...@btinternet.com To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 14:30 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-16 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
-written).    Cheers    Martyn  From: Michel Fodje michel.fo...@lightsource.ca To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, 15 April 2013, 17:19 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure Just to round up this topic, a bug report was submitted to PDBe concerning entry

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-15 Thread Michel Fodje
and 18 and tried to fix it by adding it back, between 1 and 8. /Michel -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Edward A. Berry Sent: April-14-13 9:59 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure Robbie Joosten wrote

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-15 Thread Huw Jenkins
On 15 Apr 2013, at 17:19, Michel Fodje michel.fo...@lightsource.ca wrote: I imagine somebody accidentally deleted a space between P 21 21 2 and 18 and tried to fix it by adding it back, between 1 and 8. As this has now been mentioned twice in this discussion it should probably be noted

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-14 Thread Robbie Joosten
: Friday, 12 April 2013, 22:57 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure Waters are moved during annotation using the perceived space group's symmetry operation. So if the authors give the wrong space group, then the annotation pipeline understandably messes things up. If the originally

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-14 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Robbie, Which seems a sort of reasonable attitude to me. Not quite, the depositor has to give, i.e. type, the space group what I don't get is why one needs to type in this information if it is already present in both, model and data files? Any human typing is typo prone. Ideally

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
Robbie Joosten wrote: Hi Martyn, I think the question is where the error was made - seeing the uploaded file would clear this up. But it seems unlikely to me that the depositor saw a huge R factor discrepancy at the end of refinement and just blithely uploaded it. So scenario 3 :- PDB : we

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-13 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
and making sure that the R you get is not twice as large as published one would entirely suffice -:) Pavel From: Robbie Joosten robbie_joos...@hotmail.com To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 22:57 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-13 Thread Robbie Joosten
is not twice as large as published one would entirely suffice -:) Pavel From: Robbie Joosten robbie_joos...@hotmail.com To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 22:57 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure Waters are moved during

[ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Michel Fodje
Has anyone else noticed a problem with the structure of the N-terminal capsid domain of HIV-2 PDB 2wlv. Load it up to in coot and navigate to residue B118. /Michel.

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Michel Fodje
By the way, you will need to show symmetry atoms to see the problem. -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Michel Fodje Sent: April-12-13 1:14 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure Has anyone else noticed

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Phoebe A. Rice
PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure By the way, you will need to show symmetry atoms to see the problem. -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Michel Fodje Sent: April-12-13 1:14 PM To: CCP4BB

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Eugene Osipov
: By the way, you will need to show symmetry atoms to see the problem. -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Michel Fodje Sent: April-12-13 1:14 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure Has anyone else noticed a problem

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Pavel Afonine
] on behalf of Michel Fodje [michel.fo...@lightsource.ca] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 2:17 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure By the way, you will need to show symmetry atoms to see the problem. -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Eugene Osipov
] Puzzling Structure Has anyone else noticed a problem with the structure of the N-terminal capsid domain of HIV-2 PDB 2wlv. Load it up to in coot and navigate to residue B118. /Michel.

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Savvas Savvides
The CRYST1 in the pdb header is problematic. CRYST1 95.520 47.815 88.570 90.00 90.00 90.00 P 21 21 218 it looks like the number '1' was paired to the space group rather than the space grop number (i.e. nr. 18 for P21212) Table 1 in the paper specifies P212121 as the space group.

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Savvas Savvides
i meant to say P21212 On 12 Apr 2013, at 21:47, Savvas Savvides savvas.savvi...@ugent.be wrote: The CRYST1 in the pdb header is problematic. CRYST1 95.520 47.815 88.570 90.00 90.00 90.00 P 21 21 218 it looks like the number '1' was paired to the space group rather than the

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Garib N Murshudov
/books/2008/9780854042722.asp From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Michel Fodje [michel.fo...@lightsource.ca] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 2:17 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure By the way

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Pavel Afonine
...@lightsource.ca написал: By the way, you will need to show symmetry atoms to see the problem. -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Michel Fodje Sent: April-12-13 1:14 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure Has

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure

2013-04-12 Thread Robbie Joosten
Of Garib N Murshudov Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 21:39 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling Structure It is typo: R factor for p212121 - 0.4 for p21212- around 0.18 Although water seem to have been moved around using p212121 On 12 Apr 2013