Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-21 Thread Herman . Schreuder
20, 2013 11:17 PM To: Schreuder, Herman RD/DE Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Herman, the short answer might be that at the stage of COLSPOT the term 'resolution' has a limited meaning because

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-21 Thread Kay Diederichs
: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Niu, indexing relies on strong reflections only, that is (in very brieft) why INCLUDE_RESOLUTION_RANGE indeed does not affect the relections collected in COLSPOT which in turn are used by IDXREF. You can

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-21 Thread Kay Diederichs
- From: Tim Gruene [mailto:t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:17 PM To: Schreuder, Herman RD/DE Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Herman, the short answer might

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-21 Thread Herman . Schreuder
] On Behalf Of Kay Diederichs Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:02 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:28:27 +, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote: Dear Tim, It could be that COLSPOT does not rely on experimental setup

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-20 Thread vellieux
Hello, The way I do it is by manually editing the SPOT.XDS file (generated by the COLSPOT step). Spots are arranged by order of decreasing intensity in that file. So if you do down the file, select an appropriate intensity cutoff and then remove all spots below that value, it will have the

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-20 Thread Herman . Schreuder
, March 19, 2013 11:06 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Niu, indexing relies on strong reflections only, that is (in very brieft) why INCLUDE_RESOLUTION_RANGE indeed does not affect the relections

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-20 Thread Tim Gruene
[mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Tim Gruene Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:06 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS Dear Niu, indexing relies on strong reflections only, that is (in very brieft) why INCLUDE_RESOLUTION_RANGE indeed does

[ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-19 Thread Niu Tou
Dear All, Is there any command can set the resolution limit for index step in XDS? I only found a keyword INCLUDE_RESOLUTION_RANGE, but it looks to be a definition of resolution range after index step as it says: INCLUDE_RESOLUTION_RANGE=20.0 0.0 !Angstroem; used by DEFPIX,INTEGRATE,CORRECT

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution limit of index in XDS

2013-03-19 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Niu, indexing relies on strong reflections only, that is (in very brieft) why INCLUDE_RESOLUTION_RANGE indeed does not affect the relections collected in COLSPOT which in turn are used by IDXREF. You can work around this, however, by making use

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-19 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Narayan, there's nothing wrong with using data with I/sigmaI 2.5, Rsym 224.3 % for multiplicity 7.8 and completeness 98.2 %. However, when you discarded frames you might have made the data worse - one should only reject data if they deviate systematically (e.g. from radiation damage).

[ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread narayan viswam
Hello CCP4ers, In my data, the highest reolution shell 2.8-3.0 A has I/sigmaI 2.5 Rsym 224.3 % for multiplicity 7.8 and completeness 98.2 %. I solved the structure by MAD refined it to Rfree 27.3 %. Ths crystal belongs to P622 space group and it is not twinned. The water content is 68%. I

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Narayan My only comment would be that P622 is a fairly uncommon space group (currently 43 PDB entries excl homologs), but obviously that doesn't mean it's wrong - just worth double-checking! Just out of interest what's the CC(1/2) statistic for your highest shell? Personally I specify more

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
narayan viswam wrote: Hello CCP4ers, In my data, the highest reolution shell 2.8-3.0 A has I/sigmaI 2.5 Rsym 224.3 % for multiplicity 7.8 and completeness 98.2 %. I solved the structure by MAD refined it to Rfree 27.3 %. Ths crystal belongs to P622 space group and it is not twinned. The

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Edwin Pozharski
As has been shown recently (and discussed on this board), Rsym is not the best measure of data quality (if any measure at all): http://www.sciencemag.org/content/336/6084/1030.abstract narayan viswam wrote: Hello CCP4ers, In my data, the highest reolution shell 2.8-3.0 A has I/sigmaI 2.5

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Edwin Pozharski
http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/ccp4bb/2001/msg00383.html Rsym...what's that? JPK On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Edwin Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.eduwrote: As has been shown recently (and discussed on this board), Rsym is not the best measure of data quality (if any measure at

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit

2012-07-18 Thread Jacob Keller
I was [too] obliquely alluding to this thread... http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg27056.html JPK On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Edwin Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.eduwrote: http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/ccp4bb/2001/msg00383.html Rsym...what's that? JPK On

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit stuck in Refmac5

2010-11-01 Thread Roberto Steiner
Hi Jon On 30 Oct 2010, at 00:46, Tom Huxford wrote: Hi all, I'm working with good quality relatively complete x-ray diffraction data collected to a resolution limit 2.6 Å from a crystal of a protein with a small molecule ligand bound. I ran MR from 10-4 Å and then did maximum likelihood rigid

[ccp4bb] resolution limit stuck in Refmac5

2010-10-29 Thread Tom Huxford
Hi all, I'm working with good quality relatively complete x-ray diffraction data collected to a resolution limit 2.6 Å from a crystal of a protein with a small molecule ligand bound.  I ran MR from 10-4 Å and then did maximum likelihood rigid body refinement in Refmac5 against data from

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution limit stuck in Refmac5

2010-10-29 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Tom Huxford thuxf...@sciences.sdsu.eduwrote: I'm working with good quality relatively complete x-ray diffraction data collected to a resolution limit 2.6 Å from a crystal of a protein with a small molecule ligand bound. I ran MR from 10-4 Å and then did

[ccp4bb] Resolution limit for Molecular Replacement

2008-09-16 Thread Rajan Pillai
Hi All, I read some literature for phasing by molecular replacement performed with reflections upto 3.5 Angstroms. Can anybody tell me why? I would prefer deleting low resolutions so as to reduce contribution from the solvent that might affect RF search and obtaining a solution. Your responses to