Re: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal a different wavelength?

2007-05-31 Thread Marius Schmidt
Especially, the crystallographers are interested in everything concerning resonance scattering, which is indeed a valid terminus technicus in natural sciences. The question of Jacob is very interesting. We have to distinguish between absorption cross section and scattering cross section and

Re: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal a different wavelength?

2007-05-31 Thread Marc SCHILTZ
Ethan A Merritt wrote: And please note that resonant scattering is not a standard term. Resonant Scattering is now the standard term accepted and used anywhere in the X-ray physics and crystallography literature, except in protein crystallography. It is the more adequate term since the

Re: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal a different wavelength?

2007-05-31 Thread Murray, James W
Dear All, While we are talking about X-ray scattering, I have another question. If an X-ray is elastically scattered from an electron at an angle theta, its energy is the same is the incoming X-ray. However, the momentum is not the same, as it now has a component in a perpendicular direction

Re: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal a different wavelength?

2007-05-31 Thread Ian Tickle
you would find that it's conserved (it has to be in an elastic collision). -- Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Murray, James W Sent: 31 May 2007 10:30 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal

Re: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal a different wavelength?

2007-05-31 Thread Jon Wright
James, At least for diffraction experiments; the photon scatters off of the *crystal lattice*, not any individual electron, so you can conserve the momentum of the photons and the macroscopic crystal without the crystal recoiling too much. Best, Jon Murray, James W wrote: Dear All,

Re: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal a different wavelength?

2007-05-31 Thread Favre-Nicolin Vincent
On jeudi 31 mai 2007, Murray, James W wrote: While we are talking about X-ray scattering, I have another question. If an X-ray is elastically scattered from an electron at an angle theta, its energy is the same is the incoming X-ray. However, the momentum is not the same, as it now has a

Re: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal a different wavelength?

2007-05-31 Thread Ethan A Merritt
On Thursday 31 May 2007 01:37, Marc SCHILTZ wrote: Ethan A Merritt wrote: And please note that resonant scattering is not a standard term. Resonant Scattering is now the standard term accepted and used anywhere in the X-ray physics and crystallography literature, except in protein

Re: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal a different wavelength?

2007-05-31 Thread William Scott
Dear Fellow Compatriots: A few pre-coffee random observations from the field offices of Dr. Cranky: 1. No mention of Resonant Scattering in the index of JJ Sakurai Adv. Quantum Mechanics (1967, 1987 revision), which I used in (blush) 1989, although the phenomenon is discussed, with many

Re: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal a different wavelength?

2007-05-31 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, The reason I called the phenomenon resonant scattering is because that is the term used by Elements of Modern X-ray Physics by Jens Als-Nielsen, Des McMorrow. I prefer the term also because this scattering is, as somebody has said, no longer really anomalous-- it fits

Re: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal a different wavelength?

2007-05-31 Thread marc . schiltz
Quoting Jacob Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The reason I called the phenomenon resonant scattering is because that is the term used by Elements of Modern X-ray Physics by Jens Als-Nielsen, Des McMorrow. I prefer the term also because this scattering is, as somebody has said, no longer really

Re: [ccp4bb] Is anomalous signal a different wavelength?

2007-05-30 Thread Jacob Keller
==Original message text=== On Wed, 30 May 2007 6:51:09 pm CDT Ethan Merritt wrote: On Wednesday 30 May 2007 16:24, Jacob Keller wrote: I have been wondering recently whether the anomalous component of a diffraction pattern is of a different wavelength from the regular