[ccp4bb] International PhD and Postdoctoral Programmes at CNIO, Madrid

2010-12-15 Thread Daniel Lietha
On behalf of Mar Pérez (Head of CNIO Training Office) Dear colleague, We would like to draw your attention to the calls for the International Ph.D. and Postdoctoral Programmes at the Spanish National Cancer Research Centre (CNIO) in Madrid. We would greatly appreciate if you could forward the

Re: [ccp4bb] could you kindly give me the suggestion

2010-12-15 Thread James Holton
The average atomic B factor in the PDB at a given resolution "d" is roughly: B = 4*d^2+12 So, I am willing to bet your resolution is 3.1 A? If so, then you are "normal" (whatever that means). -James Holton MAD Scientist On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Pavel Afonine wrote: > Hi Afshan, > > y

Re: [ccp4bb] could you kindly give me the suggestion

2010-12-15 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Afshan, you didn't mention the resolution, which is essential. For ultra-high resolution structures the average B may be well less than 10, and less than ~4-5 is the condition to see the bonding density (see aldose reductase, 1uso, for instance). While a structure at 3.5A resolution may have B

[ccp4bb] Map Sharpening

2010-12-15 Thread Raspudin
Dear all, Recently, I have solved a low resolution structure (2.85 Å) by MR; an alpha-beta mix. In this structure, one of the alpha helices (which is missing in the model) has a tube of density where I can only trace the main chain. In COOT, upon Map sharpening adjustments I could see density f

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotectant for protein crystal grown from Di-sodium hydrogen phosphate

2010-12-15 Thread Michael Thompson
I don't know how many of these crystals you have, but if you can spare one try freezing it straight out of the drop without cryoprotection. Certain salts can act as cryoprotectants at high enough concentrations. I don't know about phosphate salts, but I've had crystals that grew in 2.5M ammonium

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotectant for protein crystal grown from Di-sodium hydrogen phosphate

2010-12-15 Thread Prince, D Bryan
Quickly passing the crystal through Paratone N has worked well for me when I crystallize in ammonium sulfate or sodium citrate conditions. Another trick is to dissolve sucrose (table sugar) in 10uL of the reservoir solution until it is saturated. Then separate the sucrose-reservoir mix into two 5ul

[ccp4bb] First Announcement - Course on Neutron Scattering Applications in Structural Biology

2010-12-15 Thread Meilleur, Flora
First Announcement: Second Course on Neutron Scattering Applications in Structural Biology Oak Ridge, TN. May 23 - May 27, 2011 Application deadline: March 11, 2011 The Course in Neutron Scattering Applications in Structural Biology aims at educating and enabling a new generation of researcher

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotectant for protein crystal grown from Di-sodium hydrogen phosphate

2010-12-15 Thread Robert Kirchdoerfer
I've had good luck cryoprotecting high salt crystal conditions with sodium malonate (2.0-2.5M). Start with a 5M sodium malonate solution and dilute to 40-50% with mother liquor. good luck, Rob From: CCP4 bulletin board [ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac twin refinement and the output map

2010-12-15 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Dear Yu I cannot say about other programs. refmac uses equation in slides No 13-14 of the presentation: http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/Presentations/ Refmac_Erice_workshop.ppt If your crystal is a perfect twin and you have processed data in true space group then refmac will give map for a s

Re: [ccp4bb] cryoprotectant for protein crystal grown from Di-sodium hydrogen phosphate

2010-12-15 Thread Roger Rowlett
Mother liquor plus 30% glycerol or 30% glucose will cryoprotect pretty much anything, if it does not cause crystal cracking. We have had very good general luck with 25-30% glucose, and it's easy to prepare from your well solution or crystallization master mix. Add 150 mg of glucose to a microce

Re: [ccp4bb] cmakereference : reading reflections

2010-12-15 Thread Bryan Lepore
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Kevin Cowtan wrote: > Looks like you're missing >  -colin-fo '/*/*/[F,SIGF]' that did it. i gather the input is much like buccaneer then. also - is 0.2 the latest version - and the only command line options in v0.2 (15/04/05) that i see listed are: Usage: cmake

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: advice for crystallography workstation/server

2010-12-15 Thread Bosch, Juergen
We have a slightly different approach to this. Local machines are laptops if you want to do model building you can do it locally either 2d or connected to a Zalman in 3D. I have one Mac mini hooked up to a Zalman as "permanent" 3D station. The dual HexaCore MacPro (16 GB RAM) is connected also

Re: [ccp4bb] could you kindly give me the suggestion

2010-12-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
By all means 50 is OK. The low end in the PDB is probably ~10, whereas the high end is ~100 On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 10:24 -0800, Afshan Fayazi wrote: > > > Actually i have sioved my structure of the protein but the B factor > (temperature) overall is very high . it sis more than 50 so how can i

[ccp4bb] could you kindly give me the suggestion

2010-12-15 Thread Afshan Fayazi
Actually i have sioved my structure of the protein but the B factor (temperature) overall  is very high . it sis more than 50 so how can i reduce this or what is the acceptable B factor for the submission Best Regards AFSHAN

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: advice for crystallography workstation/server

2010-12-15 Thread Francis E Reyes
Ronnie Just a few comments.. There are no 'true' virtual sessions for OS X Server. (Well there is, but it's developed by a separate company and they charge per seat == expensive). What I define as a 'virtual session' is that you get a login window and your own desktop all running over VNC.

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-15 Thread Ian Tickle
That's my whole point, it's not an arbitrary threshold, it's determined completely by what the data are capable of telling you about the structure, depending on the resolution. Either you have sufficient resolution to be able to say that the atom is disordered off the s.p. or you don't and you hav

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-15 Thread Dale Tronrud
Dear Ian, I think you are putting too much importance on the numerical instability of an atom's position when refining with full matrix refinement. When developing TNT's code for calculating second derivatives I found that building into the calculation the effects of such an atom overlapping i

[ccp4bb] Refmac twin refinement and the output map

2010-12-15 Thread zhang yu
Dear all, I have a question about twin refinement of Refmac in CPP4. I was told that the refmac (Phenix also?) will generate the detwined map after the refinement with twin. My question is that If my crystal is a perfect hemihedral twin, how can the refmac make a detwined map after the refinement?

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-15 Thread George M. Sheldrick
I agree with Herman. It is simply not acceptable to have a sudden discontinuous change in "effective occupancy" at some arbitrary point as a disordered atom approaches a special position. Anyway, whatever the CIF people decide, I will not introduce an incompatibility between different versions o

[ccp4bb] off topic: advice for crystallography workstation/server

2010-12-15 Thread Ronnie Berntsson
Dear all, We are currently considering buying a computer which can be used by multiple people, via our existing network, as a workstation for crystallography purposes. My thoughts are currently going towards a 8-core Apple Pro (or 12-core) with a lot of RAM, with OS X Server, which in theory sh

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-15 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Herman What makes an atom on a special position is that it is literally ON the s.p.: it can't be 'almost on' the s.p. because then if you tried to refine the co-ordinates perpendicular to the axis you would find that the matrix would be singular or at least so badly conditioned that the solutio

Re: [ccp4bb] problem with PyMol on Ubuntu

2010-12-15 Thread Michael Murphy
Thanks Claudio, I have two versions of PyMol currently installed. One came with Phenix when I installed it, that is version 1.3. The other PyMol installation was found and installed by the Ubuntu update manager. Both of them have this same problem. MikeM On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Claudio

Re: [ccp4bb] problem with PyMol on Ubuntu

2010-12-15 Thread Claudio Shah
Dear Michael, we are running pymol on several ubuntu machines including laptops. I simply installed the package pymol from synaptic. If you cannot find the pymol package you might have to activate all software sources / channels. There is no need to download any files from the pymol website. Best

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: advice for crystallography workstation/server

2010-12-15 Thread Roger Rowlett
Ronnie, The main rub is that any of the graphical software will have to be run on the local CPU to take advantage of accelerated video graphics. The approach I've taken is to have a central server (which is actually my office workstation) that serves up a

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-15 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Ian, In my view, the confusion arises by NOT including the multiplicity into the occupancy. If we make the gedanken experiment and look at a range of crystal structures with a rotationally disordered water molecule near a symmetry axis (they do exist!) then as long as the water molecule is

[ccp4bb] problem with PyMol on Ubuntu

2010-12-15 Thread Michael Murphy
I running Ubuntu on a laptop (Toshiba Satellite L505 ATI/AMD FGLRX graphics driver). I downloaded and installed PyMol but it runs poorly. For some reason, it runs fine the very first time I use it after I login, but every time I launch it after that all of the buttons and text of the the PyMol View

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-15 Thread Ian Tickle
Dear George I notice that the Oxford CRYSTALS program, which is what I used when I did small-molecule crystallography and which is still quite popular among the small-molecule people (maybe not as much as Shel-X!), uses the CIF convention: OCC= This parameter defines the site occupancy EXCLUDING

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-15 Thread George M. Sheldrick
Dear Ian, Yes. Once an atom has been identified as on a special position because it is within a specied tolerance, SHELXL applies the appropriate contraints to both the coordinates and the Uij so there is no danger of the atom wandering off the special position. Usually, when an atom it very cl

Re: [ccp4bb] cns .map in coot

2010-12-15 Thread Paul Emsley
On 14/12/10 20:01, Julian Nomme wrote: I can easily convert my composite omit map from cns to ccp4 format and open it into coot. Very good, but no need to do that. However, how can I make coot use this map to fit density to my structure ? I can only use this map for visual support and for exa

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-15 Thread Ian Tickle
Dear George I would say that an atom has fractional occupancy (but unit multiplicity) unless it's exactly on the special position (though I can foresee problems with rounding of decimal places for an atom say at x=1/3), so that effectively once the atom is fixed exactly on the s.p. the symmetry co

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-15 Thread George M. Sheldrick
Dear Ian, Of course I could convert the occupancy on reading the atom in and convert it back agains on reading it out. This is not quite so trivial as it sounds because I need to set a threshold as to how close the atom has to be to a special position to be treated as special, and take care t

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-15 Thread Ian Tickle
Dear George Is applying the multiplicity factor to the occupancy internally in the program such a issue anyway? It need only be done once per atom on input (i.e. you multiply each input occupancy by the multiplicity to get the combined multiplicity*occupancy value that you would have reading in d

Re: [ccp4bb] cmakereference : reading reflections

2010-12-15 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Bryan Lepore wrote: does cmakereference v0.2 in ccp4 6.1.13 require 'project', 'dataset' or 'crystal' to be in the .mtz? because i thought by default, these were eponymous I'm pretty sure it doesn't. e.g my .mtz - that has labels F and sigF - : * Dataset ID, project/crystal/dataset names, c