[ccp4bb] possible Refmac_5.6.0117 bug

2012-03-15 Thread Minglei Zhao

Happen to come across this:

Failed to rerun previous refmac job, which had been run in version 
5.5.0109. The problem was gone after changing the LIBIN filename (36 
characters) to a shorter one.


Minglei Zhao


Re: [ccp4bb] Help! weird thing

2012-03-15 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Zhihong,
 
Refinement stuck at 55% Rfree (which is essentially random), means that
you do not have found the correct MR solution. For me the prime suspect
is the space group. In my experience pseudo translation or any almost
crystallographic NCS will easily confuse automatic space group
determination programs like pointless and it is often trickey to find
out which symmetry is crystallographic and which is
non-crystallographic.  
 
Since P21 is fairly low symmetry, I would reprocess your data in P1 and
just naively run all your favorite molecular replacement programs
(phaser, molrep, epmr, phenix, etc.) in P1. I would try them all since
there are subtle difference between these programs and one may succeed
where the others fail. Once you have a solution which refines (Free
Rfactor drops below say 40% in P1) you can try to figure out what the
true, higher symmetry space group may be. Your true space group may even
be P1, with pseudo P21 symmetry!
 
Good luck!
Herman 




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Behalf Of xiaoyazi2008
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To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Help! weird thing


Dear all, 
Thank you very much for all the great suggestions on my case. 
Yes, I run the latest version of Phaser in Phenix. The analysis
showed that there is one non-origin distinct peak more than 15 angstroms
from the origin. 
44.1% origin:FRAC 0.000 0.042 0.500   (ORTH  -15.72.8
103.5)
I managed to find four copies with the latest Phaser. After 50
cycles of rigid body refinement and 50 cycles of jelly body refinement,
Rfree/R goes around 55/52. It is really hard for me to do model building
at this point, because there is pretty much no new density. 

Compare to model building and refinement with normal dataset (no
pseudo translation NCS), are there any special tricks or tips for
structure determination from dataset with pseudo translation?

Thanks again!

Have a nice evening or morning or afternoon!
Zhihong

On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Randy Read wrote:


Airlie points out that what I said about the ccp4i
interface wasn't correct!  In order to keep the ccp4i interface in synch
with the version of Phaser, we've started distributing the ccp4i files
with the source code.  The ones on our website are for an older version
of Phaser, but the latest ones will come with the Phenix download that
gives you the latest executable. 

Apologies to anyone who was quick enough to download and
install the wrong ccp4i files already!

Best wishes,

Randy Read

On 12 Mar 2012, at 16:47, Randy Read wrote:


Yes, the current version of Phaser will do the
same test that xtriage carries out, and if it finds a sufficiently high
non-origin Patterson peak, it will automatically characterise the
translational NCS and use this for molecular replacement.  This is
working pretty well in our tests. 

In the near future you will be able to get the
current version of Phaser as part of the upcoming CCP4 release, but at
the moment the easiest way to get it is to download a recent version of
Phenix.  You should be able to run that through ccp4i by downloading and
installing the updated GUI files from our website (and getting ccp4i to
interpret the command phaser as phenix.phaser).

Best wishes,

Randy Read

On 12 Mar 2012, at 16:06, Anastassis Perrakis
wrote:


Hi - 

I agree with Garib that its likely a
pseudo-translation issue.
I also agree with that the advice he
gives is correct, but ...
... since I am evidently less smart to
follow all these steps, 
I like to use phenix.xtriage that will
tell me if there is pseudo-translation or not, 
and will give a p-value for that being
significant. Its at the end of the text output.

I am not sure if Phaser deals these days
with pseudo-translation - I guess Randy can tell us.
If not, there is a very simple trick to
make Phaser work with pseudo-translation,
but since I threw the ball to Randy's
court and he told me the trick a few years ago,
I will let him explain only if needed
;-)

Best,

Tassos

On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:55, Garib N
Murshudov wrote:


Hi 

Could you please check:

[ccp4bb] MolRep error

2012-03-15 Thread Justyna Wojdyla
Dear All,

I am trying to run MolRep with 'input fixed model' option and i am getting 
error message:

At line 1260 of file /usr/local/xtal/ccp4-6.2.0/src/molrep_/molrep.f
Fortran runtime error: End of record

I am using:
CCP4 6.2: MOLREP(ccp4) version 11.0.02 : 07/02/11

I found the updated version of the molrep binary for Windows system but could 
not see anything for linux. I'll be grateful for your help. 
Justyna

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Re: [ccp4bb] MolRep error

2012-03-15 Thread Garib N Murshudov
you can try a version from this site:

http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~alexei/molrep.html

If it does not work please let me know


regards
Garib


On 15 Mar 2012, at 12:45, Justyna Wojdyla jw...@york.ac.uk wrote:

 Dear All,
 
 I am trying to run MolRep with 'input fixed model' option and i am getting 
 error message:
 
 At line 1260 of file /usr/local/xtal/ccp4-6.2.0/src/molrep_/molrep.f
 Fortran runtime error: End of record
 
 I am using:
 CCP4 6.2: MOLREP(ccp4) version 11.0.02 : 07/02/11
 
 I found the updated version of the molrep binary for Windows system but could 
 not see anything for linux. I'll be grateful for your help. 
 Justyna
 
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 Email: justyna.wojd...@york.ac.uk
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MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
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Cambridge 
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Web http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk





[ccp4bb] Lego_auto_mainchain in COOT?

2012-03-15 Thread xiuwen zhang
Dear all,

   Is there any similar function in COOT as lego_auto_mainchain command in
O program? This command is quite useful to build a low resolution model
(say,  4A).

Cheers,
Xiuwen


Re: [ccp4bb] Lego_auto_mainchain in COOT?

2012-03-15 Thread Paul Emsley

On 15/03/12 14:14, xiuwen zhang wrote:

Dear all,

   Is there any similar function in COOT as lego_auto_mainchain 
command in O program? This command is quite useful to build a low 
resolution model (say,  4A).




I am not familiar with lego_auto_mainchain but there are 2 loop fitting 
tools in Coot


C alpha - Mainchain

   
http://lmb.bioch.ox.ac.uk/coot/doc/coot.html#C_002dalpha-_002d_003e-Mainchain


   http://lmb.bioch.ox.ac.uk/coot/doc/coot.html#Building-Links-and-Loops

DB Loop:

   (No good documentation)

   
http://lmb.bioch.ox.ac.uk/coot/doc/coot/protein_002ddb_002dloops.html#protein_002ddb_002dloops


Extensions - Modelling - DB Loop...


[ccp4bb] protein stain, B-PER

2012-03-15 Thread Thomas Edwards
Dear BB,

Apologies for being mildly off topic.
Maybe.


 1.  We are trying to express (in E. coli) a protein which appears to be quite 
sensitive to mechanical disruption. We have ordered some B-PER (Pierce - B-PER 
Bacterial Protein Extraction Reagents are designed to extract soluble protein 
from bacterial cells without harsh chemicals or mechanical procedures like 
sonication), but would like to try a variety of similar things if possible. 
Any advice from the community out there? Anybody know what goes into B-PER or 
similar things (I know there's some Dnase and lysosyme in there – but which 
detergents are compatible with Ni, GST, how much do you need etc)??
 2.  Staining SDS gels. There are various concerns from lab members about 
safety re methanol in stains, microwaving stains etc etc. Instant Blue claims 
to have none of these problems.  Quote: Protein gel staining takes around 15 
minutes without the need to wash, fix, microwave or destain. But again, I'd 
like to try things to see if they work for us (before spending cash - yes, I am 
spending averse…!). Anybody any suggestions for quick, non-fix, non-methanol, 
non-microwave, non–destain protein gel stains? Have tried home made colloidal 
coomassie but our protocol still requires fixes and washes that made it not 
really worth while.

Happy to collate thoughts on replies offline and post summary.

Many thanks
Ed

T.A.Edwards Ph.D.
Deputy Director Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology
Lecturer in Biochemistry
Garstang 8.53d
University of Leeds, Leeds, LS2 9JT
Telephone: 0113 343 3031
http://www.bmb.leeds.ac.uk/staff/tae/
-- No one should approach the temple of science with the soul of a money 
changer.  ~Thomas Browne


Re: [ccp4bb] protein stain, B-PER

2012-03-15 Thread Jacob Keller
Switch ethanol in the stain. Also, there was talk a while ago about making
your own instant blue stains--it works like bradford reagent, I think.
Perhaps look back at previous postings?

JPK

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Thomas Edwards t.a.edwa...@leeds.ac.ukwrote:

 Dear BB,

 Apologies for being mildly off topic.
 Maybe.


  1.  We are trying to express (in E. coli) a protein which appears to be
 quite sensitive to mechanical disruption. We have ordered some B-PER
 (Pierce - B-PER Bacterial Protein Extraction Reagents are designed to
 extract soluble protein from bacterial cells without harsh chemicals or
 mechanical procedures like sonication), but would like to try a variety of
 similar things if possible. Any advice from the community out there?
 Anybody know what goes into B-PER or similar things (I know there's some
 Dnase and lysosyme in there – but which detergents are compatible with Ni,
 GST, how much do you need etc)??
  2.  Staining SDS gels. There are various concerns from lab members about
 safety re methanol in stains, microwaving stains etc etc. Instant Blue
 claims to have none of these problems.  Quote: Protein gel staining takes
 around 15 minutes without the need to wash, fix, microwave or destain. But
 again, I'd like to try things to see if they work for us (before spending
 cash - yes, I am spending averse…!). Anybody any suggestions for quick,
 non-fix, non-methanol, non-microwave, non–destain protein gel stains? Have
 tried home made colloidal coomassie but our protocol still requires fixes
 and washes that made it not really worth while.

 Happy to collate thoughts on replies offline and post summary.

 Many thanks
 Ed

 T.A.Edwards Ph.D.
 Deputy Director Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology
 Lecturer in Biochemistry
 Garstang 8.53d
 University of Leeds, Leeds, LS2 9JT
 Telephone: 0113 343 3031
 http://www.bmb.leeds.ac.uk/staff/tae/
 -- No one should approach the temple of science with the soul of a money
 changer.  ~Thomas Browne




-- 
***
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Northwestern University
Medical Scientist Training Program
email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu
***


Re: [ccp4bb] protein stain, B-PER

2012-03-15 Thread Cécile Breyton

Hi Ed,

A few years back there has been a thread on copper staining that leads 
to negative staining, but works well, is very fast and simple.


- Rinse gel 10-30s in H2O
- incubate in 300 mM CuCl2. The gel stains in 3-5 min: background 
becomes opaque, the protein bands remain clear. Sensibility is as good 
(slightly better) than Coomassie.


The gel can be stored in H2O (but proteins diffuse after a while), 
destained for other staining (Coomassie, silver...), by incubation in 50 
mM EDTA 5-10 min.


CuCl2 and EDTA solutions can be re-used.

Discard Cu in appropriate waste.

From Lee et al, 1987, Anal. Biochem 166, 308-312.

Cécile


Le 15/03/12 15:24, Thomas Edwards a écrit :

Dear BB,

Apologies for being mildly off topic.
Maybe.


  1.  We are trying to express (in E. coli) a protein which appears to be quite sensitive 
to mechanical disruption. We have ordered some B-PER (Pierce - B-PER Bacterial 
Protein Extraction Reagents are designed to extract soluble protein from bacterial cells 
without harsh chemicals or mechanical procedures like sonication), but would like 
to try a variety of similar things if possible. Any advice from the community out there? 
Anybody know what goes into B-PER or similar things (I know there's some Dnase and 
lysosyme in there – but which detergents are compatible with Ni, GST, how much do you 
need etc)??
  2.  Staining SDS gels. There are various concerns from lab members about safety re methanol in 
stains, microwaving stains etc etc. Instant Blue claims to have none of these problems. 
 Quote: Protein gel staining takes around 15 minutes without the need to wash, fix, microwave 
or destain. But again, I'd like to try things to see if they work for us (before spending 
cash - yes, I am spending averse…!). Anybody any suggestions for quick, non-fix, non-methanol, 
non-microwave, non–destain protein gel stains? Have tried home made colloidal coomassie but our 
protocol still requires fixes and washes that made it not really worth while.

Happy to collate thoughts on replies offline and post summary.

Many thanks
Ed

T.A.Edwards Ph.D.
Deputy Director Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology
Lecturer in Biochemistry
Garstang 8.53d
University of Leeds, Leeds, LS2 9JT
Telephone: 0113 343 3031
http://www.bmb.leeds.ac.uk/staff/tae/
-- No one should approach the temple of science with the soul of a money 
changer.  ~Thomas Browne



--
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Institut de Biologie Structurale
UMR 5075 CNRS/CEA/UJF
41, rue Jules Horowitz
38027 Grenoble cedex 1 France
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Fax: +33 (0)4 38 78 54 94
Courriel : cecile.brey...@ibs.fr
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Re: [ccp4bb] protein stain, B-PER

2012-03-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
By mechanical disruption you mean sonication only or have you tried the
French press?

Assuming that you use sonication, and assuming that you follow a fairly
standard protocol (e.g. something like 10sec pulse/20sec pause on ice
for 3 minutes total), it may be heat not ultrasound that gets to it.
Temperature in the sonicated sample may go pretty high under regular
sonication protocol - we have the temperature probe and it easily goes
over room temperature.  

I may certainly be wrong on both assumptions.  And French press would
suffer from the same heating problem - some pre-cool the whole thing in
the cold room, but I don't know how much it helps.

Cheers,

Ed.

On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 14:24 +, Thomas Edwards wrote:
 Dear BB,
 
 Apologies for being mildly off topic.
 Maybe.
 
 
  1.  We are trying to express (in E. coli) a protein which appears to be 
 quite sensitive to mechanical disruption. We have ordered some B-PER (Pierce 
 - B-PER Bacterial Protein Extraction Reagents are designed to extract 
 soluble protein from bacterial cells without harsh chemicals or mechanical 
 procedures like sonication), but would like to try a variety of similar 
 things if possible. Any advice from the community out there? Anybody know 
 what goes into B-PER or similar things (I know there's some Dnase and 
 lysosyme in there – but which detergents are compatible with Ni, GST, how 
 much do you need etc)??
  2.  Staining SDS gels. There are various concerns from lab members about 
 safety re methanol in stains, microwaving stains etc etc. Instant Blue 
 claims to have none of these problems.  Quote: Protein gel staining takes 
 around 15 minutes without the need to wash, fix, microwave or destain. But 
 again, I'd like to try things to see if they work for us (before spending 
 cash - yes, I am spending averse…!). Anybody any suggestions for quick, 
 non-fix, non-methanol, non-microwave, non–destain protein gel stains? Have 
 tried home made colloidal coomassie but our protocol still requires fixes and 
 washes that made it not really worth while.
 
 Happy to collate thoughts on replies offline and post summary.
 
 Many thanks
 Ed
 
 T.A.Edwards Ph.D.
 Deputy Director Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology
 Lecturer in Biochemistry
 Garstang 8.53d
 University of Leeds, Leeds, LS2 9JT
 Telephone: 0113 343 3031
 http://www.bmb.leeds.ac.uk/staff/tae/
 -- No one should approach the temple of science with the soul of a money 
 changer.  ~Thomas Browne

-- 
Hurry up before we all come back to our senses!
   Julian, King of Lemurs


Re: [ccp4bb] protein stain, B-PER

2012-03-15 Thread Jacob Keller
Hey, that was my post! NB this cannot be used for native gels, I don't
think.

Jacob

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Cécile Breyton cecile.brey...@ibs.frwrote:

 Hi Ed,

 A few years back there has been a thread on copper staining that leads to
 negative staining, but works well, is very fast and simple.

 - Rinse gel 10-30s in H2O
 - incubate in 300 mM CuCl2. The gel stains in 3-5 min: background becomes
 opaque, the protein bands remain clear. Sensibility is as good (slightly
 better) than Coomassie.

 The gel can be stored in H2O (but proteins diffuse after a while),
 destained for other staining (Coomassie, silver...), by incubation in 50 mM
 EDTA 5-10 min.

 CuCl2 and EDTA solutions can be re-used.

 Discard Cu in appropriate waste.

 From Lee et al, 1987, Anal. Biochem 166, 308-312.

 Cécile


 Le 15/03/12 15:24, Thomas Edwards a écrit :

  Dear BB,

 Apologies for being mildly off topic.
 Maybe.


  1.  We are trying to express (in E. coli) a protein which appears to be
 quite sensitive to mechanical disruption. We have ordered some B-PER
 (Pierce - B-PER Bacterial Protein Extraction Reagents are designed to
 extract soluble protein from bacterial cells without harsh chemicals or
 mechanical procedures like sonication), but would like to try a variety of
 similar things if possible. Any advice from the community out there?
 Anybody know what goes into B-PER or similar things (I know there's some
 Dnase and lysosyme in there – but which detergents are compatible with Ni,
 GST, how much do you need etc)??
  2.  Staining SDS gels. There are various concerns from lab members about
 safety re methanol in stains, microwaving stains etc etc. Instant Blue
 claims to have none of these problems.  Quote: Protein gel staining takes
 around 15 minutes without the need to wash, fix, microwave or destain. But
 again, I'd like to try things to see if they work for us (before spending
 cash - yes, I am spending averse…!). Anybody any suggestions for quick,
 non-fix, non-methanol, non-microwave, non–destain protein gel stains? Have
 tried home made colloidal coomassie but our protocol still requires fixes
 and washes that made it not really worth while.

 Happy to collate thoughts on replies offline and post summary.

 Many thanks
 Ed

 T.A.Edwards Ph.D.
 Deputy Director Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology
 Lecturer in Biochemistry
 Garstang 8.53d
 University of Leeds, Leeds, LS2 9JT
 Telephone: 0113 343 3031
 http://www.bmb.leeds.ac.uk/**staff/tae/http://www.bmb.leeds.ac.uk/staff/tae/
 -- No one should approach the temple of science with the soul of a money
 changer.  ~Thomas Browne


 --
 Cécile Breyton
 Institut de Biologie Structurale
 UMR 5075 CNRS/CEA/UJF
 41, rue Jules Horowitz
 38027 Grenoble cedex 1 France
 ---
 Tel: +33 (0)4 38 78 30 37
 Fax: +33 (0)4 38 78 54 94
 Courriel : cecile.brey...@ibs.fr
 http://www.ibs.fr/groups/**membrane-and-pathogens-group/**
 ssimpa/article/ssimpas-1109http://www.ibs.fr/groups/membrane-and-pathogens-group/ssimpa/article/ssimpas-1109




-- 
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Northwestern University
Medical Scientist Training Program
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***


Re: [ccp4bb] protein stain, B-PER‏

2012-03-15 Thread Matthias Haffke

Hi all,

concerning the staining, we get good results with a self-made instant blue. 
First staining is achieved within 30min, full staining after maximal 4 hours I 
would say. You don't need to destain (still possible with H2O) since the 
background is not stained. Sensitivity is better than standard CBB-G250/Acetic 
Acid staining (not as good as silver stain though). 

Staining recipe:

10% EtOH
2% phosphoric acid
5% (w/v) AlSO4
0.02% CBB-G250

The phosphoric acid might be problematic in this mixture, but that would be my 
only concern. At least you don't have to heat it plus you have higher 
sensitivity.

Check this paper for more information:

Fast and sensitive colloidal coomassie G-250 staining for proteins in 
polyacrylamide gels.
Dyballa, N.  Metzger, S.
PMID: 19684561


Best
  

[ccp4bb] Reminder: BCA/CCP4 Summer School 2012

2012-03-15 Thread Airlie McCoy
This is a reminder that applications are now open for the 
BCA/CCP4 Summer School in Protein Crystallography to be held at 
Diamond (UK) from Tuesday 28th August to Sunday 2nd September 2012. 


Applications close 1st May 2012.

The course is suitable for PhD students in macromolecular 
crystallography who started in or before October 2011, and 
postdocs new to macromolecular crystallography.


Please note that references from supervisors are also due by 
1st May 2012, so don't leave your application until the last minute!


For more information see:

http://www.diamond.ac.uk/Home/Events/BCA-Summer-School-2012.html

Application form:

http://www.diamond.ac.uk/Home/Events/BCA-Summer-School-2012/Application-Page.html


[ccp4bb] Experimental Phasing with Pseudo-symmetry in an unusual setting P 21 2 21

2012-03-15 Thread Harm Otten
Dear colleagues
do you have any professional thoughts on my case here?

Available SeMet data to 3.6 Å (where only the redundant Se-Edge peak to can
be used), a high resolution native data to 2.6 Å, a
Zinc-soak, collected at the Zinc-Edge to 3.0 Å.

Considerable Patterson peak indicates pseudo translational symmetry, as of
42% of the origin peak. The fractional vector (x,y,z) is 0, 0.22, 0.5. The
unit cell at 65 Å, 104 Å, 130 Å (all angles 90 deg) is expected to contain
2 copies at 51% solvent content.

Best solutions for the substructure with 6 of the expected 12 Selenium
sites found in P 21 2 21 (sometimes called 2018). Low CC of ~0.4 and
problematic to refine and or find new sites after density modification.

Molecular Replacement (with and without assisted SAD) did not work, i.e.
R-factors 50% and CC 0.4. With the very best slightly manually trimmed
and refined solution I see R/Rfree 0.47/0.51.

Programs in use are shelx_cde, autoSHARP, ARP/wARP, crank, oasis, rantan,
phaser, mlphare, as well as phenix.autosol, phase_and_build, refine,
sculptor, enseml, automr.

1) Can I reassure myself of the right space group? (tried visual absences
inspection in HKLVIEW and pointless, phenix.xtriage)

2) What is the best phasing program at these resolutions in your experience?

Thanks in advance for your feedback!

Harm
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[ccp4bb] Differentiate salt and protein crystals

2012-03-15 Thread Theresa H. Hsu
Hi all.

I set up some trays of membrane protein remotely in cubic phase. I don't have 
ready access to them so I can't shoot/pick the crystals. Under polarising 
lights, some crystals appears coloured across many conditions, making me think 
these are salt. Is there some knowledge of inorganic chemistry that be relied 
to prioritise some for reproductions at my lab? Can detergents crystallise and 
produce colours under polarising light?

Thank you.

Theresa


Re: [ccp4bb] Differentiate salt and protein crystals

2012-03-15 Thread Jingquan Tan
Hi Theresa,
Your observation of colored crystals under polarising lights seems odd to
me. I assume your protein should be colorless and under normal light these
crystals are colorless? Are these trays set up in glass plate or plastic
plates? If you are willing to upload some pictures, I might be able to tell
you whether they are salt crystals or not.

Regards
Jingquan

On 15 March 2012 15:43, Theresa H. Hsu theresah...@live.com wrote:

 Hi all.

 I set up some trays of membrane protein remotely in cubic phase. I don't
 have ready access to them so I can't shoot/pick the crystals. Under
 polarising lights, some crystals appears coloured across many conditions,
 making me think these are salt. Is there some knowledge of inorganic
 chemistry that be relied to prioritise some for reproductions at my lab?
 Can detergents crystallise and produce colours under polarising light?

 Thank you.

 Theresa




Re: [ccp4bb] Differentiate salt and protein crystals

2012-03-15 Thread Jon Agirre
The best reproduction I can suggest would be to setup one or two LCP
experiments exchanging the protein for its buffer. If you get crystals, you
know for sure they're not protein.

Cheers,

Jon

2012/3/15 Theresa H. Hsu theresah...@live.com

 Hi all.

 I set up some trays of membrane protein remotely in cubic phase. I don't
 have ready access to them so I can't shoot/pick the crystals. Under
 polarising lights, some crystals appears coloured across many conditions,
 making me think these are salt. Is there some knowledge of inorganic
 chemistry that be relied to prioritise some for reproductions at my lab?
 Can detergents crystallise and produce colours under polarising light?

 Thank you.

 Theresa




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Postdoctoral Scientist - Protein and
Virus X-ray Crystallography Group
Biophysics Unit (CSIC-UPV/EHU)
+0034946013357


Re: [ccp4bb] recombinant enterokinase

2012-03-15 Thread Wolfgang Skala
Dear Elias,

we routinely produce a C-terminally His6-tagged catalytic domain of bovine 
enterokinase in E. coli. The protease is expressed into inclusion bodies and 
subsequently folded in vitro. Considering the high activity of our enterokinase 
construct, one refolding batch allows us to cleave several grams of target 
proteins.

If you're interested in our expression system, just send me an email.

best wishes,
Wolfgang Skala
-- 
Structural Biology Group / Department of Molecular Biology
University of Salzburg
Billrothstraße 11
5020 Salzburg
Austria

Email: wolfgang.sk...@sbg.ac.at
Phone: +43 662 8044 7278
http://www.uni-salzburg.at/xray


Re: [ccp4bb] Differentiate salt and protein crystals

2012-03-15 Thread Jacob Keller
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jon Agirre jon.agi...@gmail.com wrote:

 The best reproduction I can suggest would be to setup one or two LCP
 experiments exchanging the protein for its buffer. If you get crystals, you
 know for sure they're not protein.



It should be pointed out that the converse is not true: if you don't get
crystals from buffer-only crystallizations, it doesn't mean that your
putative protein crystals are really protein.

Jacob






 Cheers,

 Jon

 2012/3/15 Theresa H. Hsu theresah...@live.com

 Hi all.

 I set up some trays of membrane protein remotely in cubic phase. I don't
 have ready access to them so I can't shoot/pick the crystals. Under
 polarising lights, some crystals appears coloured across many conditions,
 making me think these are salt. Is there some knowledge of inorganic
 chemistry that be relied to prioritise some for reproductions at my lab?
 Can detergents crystallise and produce colours under polarising light?

 Thank you.

 Theresa




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[ccp4bb] postdoctoral position in structural biology and epigenetics

2012-03-15 Thread Charles Ballard
A post-doctoral position is available for highly motivated candidates to join a 
research group interested in investigating molecular mechanisms underlying 
epigenetic regulation and inheritance, and the broad area of chromatin biology. 
Projects will involve structure determination of macromolecular complexes by 
X-ray crystallography and/or NMR spectroscopy, and related biochemical 
characterizations. Applicants should hold a PhD degree and have significant 
experience in molecular cloning, protein production and X-ray crystallography. 
Additional background in NMR spectroscopy and enzymatic assay is considered a 
plus but not essential. The expected starting date is September 1st, 2012 or 
sooner. Interested applicants should send curriculum vitae, a summary of past 
research experience and accomplishments, and contact information of two or 
three references to Jikui Song, Ph.D. Department of Biochemistry, University of 
California, Riverside, CA 92521 (Email: songlab...@gmail.edu).
 
As one of the major research univerisities in California, UCR houses well 
equipped structural biology facilities. Riverside is located near to big cities 
such as Los Angeles, San Diego and Las Vegas. Such an environment allows one to 
have a good balance of life and science here.
 
More information can be found in 
http://biochemistry.ucr.edu/faculty/song/song.html.
 
Jikui Song, PhD
Assistant Professor
Department of Biochemistry
University of California, Riverside

[ccp4bb] postdoctor​al position in structural biology and epigenetic​s

2012-03-15 Thread Jikui Song
A post-doctoral position is available for highly motivated candidates to
join aresearch group interested in investigating molecular mechanisms
underlyingepigenetic regulation and inheritance, and the broad area of
chromatin biology.Projects will involve structure determination of
macromolecular complexes byX-ray crystallography and/or NMR spectroscopy,
and related biochemicalcharacterizations. Applicants should hold a PhD
degree and have significantexperience in molecular cloning, protein
production and X-ray crystallography.Additional background in NMR
spectroscopy and enzymatic assay is considered aplus but not essential. The
expected starting date is September 1st,2012 or sooner. Interested
applicants should send curriculum vitae, a summaryof past research
experience and accomplishments, and contact information of twoor three
references to Jikui Song, Ph.D. Department of Biochemistry, Universityof
California, Riverside, CA 92521 (Email: songlab...@gmail.edu).



As one of the major research univerisities in California, UCR
houses well-equipped X-ray and NMR facilities. Riverside is located near to
big cities such as Los Angeles, San Diego and Las Vegas. Such an
environment allows one to have a good balance of life and science here.



More information can be found in
http://biochemistry.ucr.edu/faculty/song/song.html.






Jikui Song, PhD

Assistant Professor

Department of Biochemistry

University of California,Riverside


Re: [ccp4bb] protein stain, B-PER

2012-03-15 Thread Doug Ohlendorf
1.  We like Bugbuster. You can get it at 10X concentration so it is
fairly economical. We do add lysozyme and DNase as well.
2.  We use the NuPage gels and SimplyBlue SafeStain and it works very
well. We can run a gel in 20-30 min and have it stained and destained a hour
later using the microwave to heat the solutions. There is no methanol in the
procedure and gel runs at neutrality.

Doug

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-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Thomas
Edwards
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:24 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] protein stain, B-PER

Dear BB,

Apologies for being mildly off topic.
Maybe.


 1.  We are trying to express (in E. coli) a protein which appears to be
quite sensitive to mechanical disruption. We have ordered some B-PER (Pierce
- B-PER Bacterial Protein Extraction Reagents are designed to extract
soluble protein from bacterial cells without harsh chemicals or mechanical
procedures like sonication), but would like to try a variety of similar
things if possible. Any advice from the community out there? Anybody know
what goes into B-PER or similar things (I know there's some Dnase and
lysosyme in there - but which detergents are compatible with Ni, GST, how
much do you need etc)??
 2.  Staining SDS gels. There are various concerns from lab members about
safety re methanol in stains, microwaving stains etc etc. Instant Blue
claims to have none of these problems.  Quote: Protein gel staining takes
around 15 minutes without the need to wash, fix, microwave or destain. But
again, I'd like to try things to see if they work for us (before spending
cash - yes, I am spending averse.!). Anybody any suggestions for quick,
non-fix, non-methanol, non-microwave, non-destain protein gel stains? Have
tried home made colloidal coomassie but our protocol still requires fixes
and washes that made it not really worth while.

Happy to collate thoughts on replies offline and post summary.

Many thanks
Ed

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Biochemistry Garstang 8.53d University of Leeds, Leeds, LS2 9JT
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[ccp4bb] 4Fe-4S

2012-03-15 Thread Allan Pang

Hi all,

Has any of you encountered a protein with 4Fe-4S cluster; with three  
of the Fe coordinated to the cysteines of the protein, leaving one Fe  
atom free for electron transfer?


The closest I got is aconitase; however, the iron sulfur cluster of  
the enzyme is not used for electron transfer.


Thanks!

Allan

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[ccp4bb] Post-doctoral Position Available in Structural Biology and Epigenetics

2012-03-15 Thread Jikui Song
Sorry for posting again, previous message contains a typo.

A post-doctoral position is available for highly motivated candidates to join a 
research group interested in investigating molecular mechanisms underlying 
epigenetic regulation and inheritance, and the broad area of chromatin biology. 
Projects will involve structure determination of macromolecular complexes by 
X-ray crystallography and/or NMR spectroscopy, and related biochemical 
characterizations. Applicants should hold a PhD degree and have significant 
experience in molecular cloning, protein production and X-ray crystallography. 
Additional background in NMR spectroscopy and enzymatic assay is considered a 
plus but not essential. The expected starting date is September 1st,2012 or 
sooner. Interested applicants should send curriculum vitae, a summary of past 
research experience and accomplishments, and contact information of two or 
three references to Jikui Song, Ph.D. Department of Biochemistry, University of 
California, Riverside, CA 92521 (Email: songlab...@gmail.com). 
As one of the major research universities in California, UCR houses 
well-equipped X-ray and NMR facilities. Riverside is located near to big cities 
such as Los Angeles, San Diego and Las Vegas. Such an environment allows one to 
have a good balance of life and science here.
More information can be found in 
http://biochemistry.ucr.edu/faculty/song/song.html.

---
Jikui Song, PhD
Department of Biochemistry
University of California, Riverside