Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular replacement problem

2020-06-18 Thread Nukri Sanishvili
Hi Robert, In addition to the great suggestions you already have received, maybe you should also consider SIMBAD or similar programs? The behavior you are describing is typical of, albeit not exclusive to, having crystallized a contaminant protein. Good luck! Nukri On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 08:01

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular replacement problem

2020-06-18 Thread Fischmann, Thierry
: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Robert S Phillips Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:01 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Molecular replacement problem EXTERNAL EMAIL – Use caution with any links or file attachments. I've been pulling out my hair with this for a few months now. I have

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular replacement problem

2020-06-18 Thread Eleanor Dodson
/david_briggs > -- > *From:* CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Robert S > Phillips > *Sent:* 18 June 2020 14:00 > *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Molecular replacement problem > > I've been pulling out my hair with this for a few

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular replacement problem

2020-06-18 Thread Roger Rowlett
I managed to solve a structure by MR at 2.4 A with a 27% identity model. Like you, I had to use a dimer search model to make any headway. To get usable maps and an initial model, I used Chainsaw to truncate the search model, Phaser (MR), Parrot (DM) with NCS averaging, then auto building with

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular replacement problem

2020-06-18 Thread David Briggs
Phillips Sent: 18 June 2020 14:00 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Molecular replacement problem I've been pulling out my hair with this for a few months now. I have data sets to 2.6 A for a new enzyme in the aminotransferase superfamily. Unfortunately, the closest structure is only

[ccp4bb] Molecular replacement problem

2020-06-18 Thread Robert S Phillips
I've been pulling out my hair with this for a few months now. I have data sets to 2.6 A for a new enzyme in the aminotransferase superfamily. Unfortunately, the closest structure is only 25% identity. MR with PHASER using the monomer was a complete failure. Since the minimum structure of

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement problem.

2013-03-25 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Umm - this is tricky. First of all you need to reindex the C2221 data into the P21 cell - do you know the operator? then expand that data set to spacegroup P21. There is a cad option to do this.. Then add that FreeR to the re-processed P21 data. Eleanor On 24 March 2013 14:37, Appu kumar

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement problem.

2013-03-24 Thread Appu kumar
Thank you for the quick reply. After molecular replacement , i have done only few cycle of refinement in refmac. I have not done any solvent modification or NCS averaging. I have initially indexed the data in C2221 but Rfree was not decreasing so i reindexed the data in data in P121 space group

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement problem.

2013-03-24 Thread Appu kumar
I run the phenix.xtriage to evaluate the twining but it suggest no twining. When i reindex from C2221 to P21, the completeness of data reduced from 95 % to 35% whereas the map is very good and Rwork and Rfree are 26/31 for 2.2 resolution. I do not understand why the completeness of data reduced so

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement problem.

2013-03-24 Thread vellieux
Hello, Here we deal with symmetry and the unique part of reciprocal space (the reciprocal space asymmetric unit so to speak). C222(1) has eight asymmetric units (international tables, space group 20); P2(1) only has two. Assuming that Friedel's law does apply, then the minimum rotation

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement problem.

2013-03-24 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Dear Appu, You want to be sure you have good reason to drop the space group from C222(1) to P2(1). There may be many reasons why your Rfree may not drop following refinement, especially if you only have one domain in your protein located and just in case there are more molecules to locate in the

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement problem.

2013-03-24 Thread Appu kumar
Sorry for the misconception. Yes i am expanding the space group from merged mtz file. Actually i have enough number of images collected. when i indexed, integrate, and scale the data in either C2221 or P 21, it fetches the overall 98% completeness. But when i am trying to reindex the data from

[ccp4bb] molecular replacement problem.

2013-03-23 Thread Appu kumar
Dear members, I am doing a molecular replacement of a transcription factor whose ligand binding structure(24000 Da) is available in PDB but not for the DNA binding(13000 Da). When i am searching for the two copies from ligand binding domain as a template model, i am

Re: [ccp4bb] molecular replacement problem.

2013-03-23 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Dear Appu, I am not sure that I have a complete sense of the issue at hand since some of the information needed to think your issue through is missing in your email. For example, to what high resolution cut-off were the data measured? What resolution limits were used for the MR search? How do the