Re: [ccp4bb] Program to find the center of mass

2007-05-10 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear Nian, staying within CCP4: % echo END | pdbset xyzin your.pdb will print something like Orthogonal Coordinate limits in output file: Minimum MaximumCentre Range On X : 103.67119.61111.64 15.94 On Y : 58.62 93.54

Re: [ccp4bb] Program to find the center of mass

2007-05-10 Thread Bernhard C. Lohkamp
You can use Coot to find the centre of mass. In the scripting window just type: in scheme: (centre-of-mass yourmoleculenumber) or in python: centre_of_mass(yourmoleculenumber) Bernhard BTW the American spelling of centre (center) should work too... Dear all, I was trying to do a NCS

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors

2007-05-10 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
Yes, it is available in the GUI... Flip -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Adrian Meyer Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 23:28 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors Simon, REFI BREF OVERALL should do

Re: [ccp4bb] Program to find the center of mass

2007-05-10 Thread Eleanor Dodson
LSQKAB also tells you the centres of mass of the molecules you are fitting Look in the log file (Centroid == centre of mass) CENTROID OF WORKING MOLECULE : -87.717 116.189 1.694 CENTROID OF WORKING MOLECULE :(fractional) -0.180 1.170 0.010 CENTROID OF REFERENCE

[ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI (was:RE: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors)

2007-05-10 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
Hi Simon, Well, X-ray crystallography nowadays often, but certainly not always, amounts to running a set of programs with default settings with a few mouse clicks in the GUI. The fun part is knowing when you have to deviate from default, leave the well travelled paths etc. The GUI is

Re: [ccp4bb] Program to find the center of mass

2007-05-10 Thread Charlie Bond
Just to complete the set, in pdb-mode for emacs, if you do pdb-increment-centroid 0 0 0 (e.g. to move a molecule to the origin), it reports the original centroid. Cheers, Charlie -- Charlie Bond Professorial Fellow University of Western Australia School of Biomedical, Biomolecular and

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI (was:RE: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors)

2007-05-10 Thread Nave, C (Colin)
Seems to be a general issue. Read the editorial in Nature 10 May 2007 Volume 447 Number 7141, pp116. Under the microscope - The use of 'black box' techniques carries risks. Colin -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Flip Hoedemaeker Sent: 10 May

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Charlie Bond
I would add that I have found the CCP4 development team very receptive to being informed about specific improvements which could be made, and even more so to fixes implemented by users themselves. Perhaps an explicit list of the many limitations which need attention would be useful to the

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
... Forgot to say that Simon obviously is right in that the check box before refine B factors should not be there. Flip -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Bond Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:40 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject:

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Martyn Winn
The level of detail in the GUI is a matter of constant debate. The underlying programs are far far richer, so the question is how much to expose in the GUI. We try to get a balance between ease-of-use and coverage, but it won't always work. BTW I don't think we ever claimed that ccp4i (or anything

[ccp4bb] RE : [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI suggestion

2007-05-10 Thread Nicolet Stefan
Dear all, As somebody already thought about an user-personalized interface, eg. a CCP4 menu where people could drag drop their favorite (or mostly used) programs? Cheers, Stefan -Message d'origine- De : CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Martyn Winn Envoyé :

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Martyn, I was thinking in the less scary widgets-based interface for not-so-used options. If possible, I think that all options should be available to the interface. This would make the GUI more consistent, in a way. I know is a lot more work, but

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Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Miguel Ortiz Lombardia wrote: I was thinking in the less scary widgets-based interface for not-so-used options. If possible, I think that all options should be available to the interface. My programs at least have a load of options which I put in for the purposes of testing out ideas, which

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Hi Martyn, I want to second Miguel: a switch between a basic GUI (could be with even less options) and an advanced and expert GUI that allows access to most and all options that can be used in scripts would be absolutely great! It would allow novice users to do a good job on standard

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Phil Evans
I always liked Kevin's comments on little-used options in the DM documentation Don't use these unless you really know what you are doing. In which case you'd better have a better idea of what you are doing than I do. Phil On 10 May 2007, at 13:07, Kevin Cowtan wrote: Miguel Ortiz

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Dima Klenchin
The level of detail in the GUI is a matter of constant debate. The underlying programs are far far richer, so the question is how much to expose in the GUI. How about the simple and elegant way it is done in Refmac? Tacked under Developers Options is specify an external keyword script file for

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors

2007-05-10 Thread Roger Rowlett
IMO, the GUI is a lifesaver for getting undergraduates involved in crystallography in an efficient way. While it is possible to teach my undergraduates to write scripts for CNS, CCP4, and O, it is much, much easier for them to learn the CCP4 GUI. Sooner or later, real problems require you to look

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Juergen Bosch
Hi Martyn, how about option c: in each gui window at the lower left corner have a button called Display script, or call it Expert Mode if people feel better as Experts :-) , before running of course. Then people who would like to edit their stuff could do so before running the script. I

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Roger Rowlett
I think a tweak script button or option (before running) would be an excellent idea. Cheers, ___ Roger S. Rowlett Professor Department of Chemistry Colgate University 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, NY 13346 tel: (315)-228-7245 ofc: (315)-228-7395 fax:

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Tim Grune
As long as I have been using the ccp4i (which has been a couple of years now), this magic button has been there, and it has even been in the 'lower left corner': When you hold your mouse button on the Run button, a submenu appears, the second item of which is saying RunView com file. This opens

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread William Scott
Hi Martyn: I never use the GUI and it scares me, so I probably should just STFU, but that sort of thing has never kept me from pontificating. I often get emails from people asking how to do something with the GUI and they don't believe me, because I've developed a reputation as something of a

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2007-05-10 Thread Amy Pagsolingan
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Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI

2007-05-10 Thread Peter Adrian Meyer
Hopefully my offhand remark wasn't taken as a criticism of ccp4i (it wasn't meant as such); but seeing as I don't use it, it's not a place where I could tell someone how to find an option. As developers, we also have to think about long-term maintainability. Options, in particular little-used

[ccp4bb] rmsd calculation

2007-05-10 Thread Jenny
Hi, All, I have a question about rmsd calculation. I have some pdbs (100 residues ) and these pdbs differ pretty much only the loop region 40-60. Is there any easy way that I can superimpose the fixed region ( 1-40,60-100) and then calculate the rmsd for the loop?I need to calculate for each

Re: [ccp4bb] rmsd calculation. .

2007-05-10 Thread Kerr, Iain
Hi Jenny, You can do this in LSQMAN (if I'm understanding your question correctly...) You'd first superimpose the residues in the fixed region to give a superimposed core using the 'EXplicit' command, eg: LSQMAN ex m1 Range 1 ? (A1-10) a4-10 a19-23 a28-36 a44-51 a53-66 a91-97

[ccp4bb] Molecular Replacement issues with a WD-40 7-bladed beta propeller

2007-05-10 Thread Scott Coyle
Hello, I'm an undergraduate and recently crystallized and obtained 2.9A diffraction data for a protein which is predicted to fold into a WD40 7-bladed beta-propeller structure (which has been crudely verified by cryo-EM by another lab). The space group appears to be I4(1) with unit cell