[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-27 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 06:29 PM 9/23/2022, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: >Unfortunately there are some collectors who are also resellers so they buy >entire lots, keep what they want and sell the rest on eBay at high prices. Storage space isn't free, even if the mortgage is already paid. - John

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-26 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
;Adrian Stoness via cctalk" > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > > Cc: "Adrian Stoness" > Sent: Sunday, 25 Sep, 2022 At 14:42 > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel. > yea was found in the mud the press board preic spent a f

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2022-09-26 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Adrian's find is true computer archaeology. It will be fit for a museum of 20th century computing ... in 1000 years. ;-) On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 9:42 PM Adrian Stoness via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > yea was found in the mud the press board preic spent a few yrs outside > after i

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2022-09-26 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
-- Original Message -- From: "Adrian Stoness via cctalk" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: "Adrian Stoness" Sent: Sunday, 25 Sep, 2022 At 14:42 Subject: [cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel. yea was found in the mud the pre

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2022-09-25 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
yea was found in the mud the press board preic spent a few yrs outside after i found the first bits yet it survived had put it under some weight for few weeks to get rid of the curve it had https://live.staticflickr.com/4159/34433937071_ddcbdb994a_b.jpg On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 11:24 PM Sellam

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2022-09-25 Thread jos via cctalk
On 24.09.22 23:59, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: o? On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:30 PM jos via cctalk wrote: On 24.09.22 04:57, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series Has a p854 new old stock panel my self along with bunch of manuals and à spare core

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2022-09-24 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Rebuild as in Steve Austin. Holy crap. Sellam On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 8:29 PM Adrian Stoness via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > ive got a 8i i need to finish rebuilding > >

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-24 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
ive got a 8i i need to finish rebuilding https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/34539786085/in/photolist-UsNVQc-UnZy3U-UnXoiN-UCar4c-Tj2Q4F-svoMkx-rRe2wa-sMGsvE-snF3C3-snMK88-snF3G1-sqYYGV-sr1sL2-shWVmZ-seqzS6-rhEMQD-rhtjmd-sdACea-Mfq4ar-KhqDsy On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 8:36 PM jim stephens via

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2022-09-24 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 9/24/22 14:59, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: o? On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:30 PM jos via cctalk wrote: On 24.09.22 04:57, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series Has a p854 new old stock panel my self along with bunch of manuals and à spare core

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-24 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
o? On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:30 PM jos via cctalk wrote: > On 24.09.22 04:57, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > > Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series > > Has a p854 new old stock panel my self along with bunch of manuals and à > > spare core memory pack in safe keeping > > > I have

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-24 Thread jos via cctalk
On 24.09.22 04:57, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series Has a p854 new old stock panel my self along with bunch of manuals and à spare core memory pack in safe keeping I have spare P854's. Jos

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-24 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2022, at 10:57 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk > wrote: > > Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series "Philips" (one l). Their numbering is weird. My first assembly language programming was on a PR8000, an extremely obscure 24 bit minicomputer. It doesn't seem to have any

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2022-09-23 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Yep, that was it. I don't remember your offer, but yes the power supply was shot and needed repairs. Regardless, it's gone so I have more space in my life. The Perqs went for free as well, but those went to people who know what they are and can take care of them. There's still one in my shed

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2022-09-23 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
Ya. Thanks for the mention but it was before my time. I was in 8th grade when I first met Lincoln. That was 1976. We did tune clocks on a CY203 a few times but it wasn’t until ETA that I started doing real work ;-) All cool stuff though and the stories were endless and awesome. cje --

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 3:57 AM Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > > Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series > Has a p854 new old stock panel my self along with bunch of manuals and à > spare core memory pack in safe keeping You don't have the 'production' version of the CPU service manual

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
Wow someone mentioning à phillips p series Has a p854 new old stock panel my self along with bunch of manuals and à spare core memory pack in safe keeping On Fri., Sep. 23, 2022, 4:20 a.m. Tony Duell via cctalk, < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 8:42 PM Bill Degnan via

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Mike Loewen via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Sep 2022, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: From an over-the-top perspective as the 360/91 and 360/195 panels were, would it be fair to say that SAGE held first place in this category? Yep! We could even single-step. :-) http://q7.neurotica.com/Q7/ Mike Loewen

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2022-09-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
>From an over-the-top perspective as the 360/91 and 360/195 panels were, would it be fair to say that SAGE held first place in this category? --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
Unfortunately there are some collectors who are also resellers so they buy entire lots, keep what they want and sell the rest on eBay at high prices. On 9/23/2022 5:29 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 9/23/22 17:26, Mike Loewen via cctalk wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2022, Chris Zach via

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2022, at 5:49 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 9/23/22 13:47, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> It was useful as a simple test of whether an applicant had any >> bit-twiddling experience. But, I couldn't think of practical application. >> > > The 6600 implemented

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
I think the computers got so fast so that having blinking light wasn’t feasible. They would be on all the time. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 23, 2022, at 16:27, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > > On 9/23/22 11:53, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> On Sep 23, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Guzis

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 9/23/22 11:53, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Sep 23, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 9/22/22 22:56, ben via cctalk wrote: Blinking lights tended to be for computers of the future. World maps with lights where nuclear missiles could strike seem to be movie props

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 9/23/22 17:26, Mike Loewen via cctalk wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2022, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Earlier this spring. I posted about it, and the general opinion was that a HP1000 wasn't really worth anything so I just gave it to someone.    That's not the general consensus, at all. There

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 18:09:47 +0100 > From: Joshua Rice via cctalk > The Cray was often coupled witha DG nova for bootstrapping, which very much > did have a front panel on it. Indeed, many models of PDP-10 were bootstrapped > by PDP-11's with front panels, even if the PDP-10 lacked one. The

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/23/22 13:47, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > It was useful as a simple test of whether an applicant had any > bit-twiddling experience.  But, I couldn't think of practical application. > The 6600 implemented it (IIRC) as a tree of 8 bit adders. If you haven't read Jim Thornton's "Design of

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/23/22 11:41, Paul Koning wrote: > > Another way to get high speed: one of CDC's first disk drives, the 6603, > wrote several bits in parallel. 4 bits? 12? I don't remember, but it made > for a throughput spec that was unbeaten for nearly a decade. I think the 6638 was the controller

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Mike Loewen via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Sep 2022, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Earlier this spring. I posted about it, and the general opinion was that a HP1000 wasn't really worth anything so I just gave it to someone. That's not the general consensus, at all. There are several HP mini fans on this list, and even

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2022, at 4:47 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Sep 2022, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote: >> On the top secret number cruching >> The Cray had an instruction called 'population count' >> asked for by the NSA. >> The number of bits on in a word, not sure what

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2022-09-23 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Sep 2022, ben via cctalk wrote: Just how do the supercomputer do i/o for all that floating numbers. Weather maps I can see for output, but what about all that Top Secret number crunching. Ben. In one of my first jobs (a gopher for a british physicist, studying Van Allen belts, in

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 2:22 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, 23 Sep 2022, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > There might be some exceptions: a spare RF11 or RC11/RS64 platter merely > > needs to be bolted to the spindle hub and formatted, that's a normal > > field repair procedure.

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Sep 2022, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote: On the top secret number cruching The Cray had an instruction called 'population count' asked for by the NSA. The number of bits on in a word, not sure what this was used for. Interesting. A friend of my ex was asked to code that (in C)

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2022-09-23 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
I am quite sure the recipient was very happy to get it. Especially with i/o cards etc.Ed# Sent from the all new AOL app for Android On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 12:19 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Earlier this spring. I posted about it, and the general opinion was that a HP1000

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Sep 2022, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: There might be some exceptions: a spare RF11 or RC11/RS64 platter merely needs to be bolted to the spindle hub and formatted, that's a normal field repair procedure. But, say, a platter out of an RP04 pack is unlikely ever to be able to serve

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
Wish I had seen I would given à home On Fri., Sep. 23, 2022, 2:19 p.m. Chris Zach via cctalk, < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Earlier this spring. I posted about it, and the general opinion was that > a HP1000 wasn't really worth anything so I just gave it to someone. > > If things aren't

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Earlier this spring. I posted about it, and the general opinion was that a HP1000 wasn't really worth anything so I just gave it to someone. If things aren't worth anything I will chuck them. No point in keeping junk around. C On 9/23/2022 10:22 AM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: When

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Christian Kennedy via cctalk
On 23/09/22 11:21, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Cray did? I didn't know that. It first appeared in the CDC 6600, and yes, according to rumor at the request of NSA. I can imagine it being used for statistical analysis of character patterns Yep.  Pop count is essentially the Hamming

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2022-09-23 Thread Randy Dawson via cctalk
: [cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel. On 9/23/22 11:14, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote: > On the top secret number cruching > > The Cray had an instruction called 'population count' > > asked for by the NSA. > > The number of bits on in a word, not sure what this was used f

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2022, at 2:25 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 9/23/22 10:52, ben via cctalk wrote: > >> Just how do the supercomputer do i/o for all that floating numbers. >> Weather maps I can see for output, but what about all that Top Secret >> number crunching. > > Well,

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/23/22 10:52, ben via cctalk wrote: > Just how do the supercomputer do i/o for all that floating numbers. > Weather maps I can see for output, but what about all that Top Secret > number crunching. Well, consider the 1969 STAR-100; although not well documented, had a 512-bit wide,

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/23/22 11:14, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote: > On the top secret number cruching > > The Cray had an instruction called 'population count' > > asked for by the NSA. > > The number of bits on in a word, not sure what this was used for. The CDC 6600 had a dedicated functional unit for

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Randy Dawson via cctalk > wrote: > > On the top secret number cruching > > The Cray had an instruction called 'population count' > > asked for by the NSA. > > The number of bits on in a word, not sure what this was used for. Cray did? I didn't know

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/23/22 10:38, Paul Koning wrote: > Yes, I was thinking "mainframes" not limited to "supercomputers". Then > again, from what I remember of the one starring in "War Games", the > Connection Machine had oodles of lights. When I first encountered the 7600 MCU, I thought it was a stroke of

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2022, at 1:52 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > Just how do the supercomputer do i/o for all that floating numbers. > Weather maps I can see for output, but what about all that Top Secret > number crunching. > Ben. I'm not sure I understand the question. Floating point numbers are

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Christian Kennedy via cctalk > wrote: > > > On 23/09/22 10:22, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> >> I view the deadstart panel as a type of boot ROM, different from other boot >> ROMs only in that it's easy to change. It was tied to an I/O channel; the >>

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Randy Dawson via cctalk
@classiccmp.org Cc: ben Subject: [cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel. On 2022-09-23 11:35 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 9/23/22 09:53, Paul Koning wrote: > >> Those are good examples, but is it "many" or just those two and maybe one or >> two more? For example,

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2022-09-23 11:35 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 9/23/22 09:53, Paul Koning wrote: Those are good examples, but is it "many" or just those two and maybe one or two more? For example, Burroughs and IBM mainframes were both very much "lights and switches" control panel type

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Christian Kennedy via cctalk
On 23/09/22 10:22, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: I view the deadstart panel as a type of boot ROM, different from other boot ROMs only in that it's easy to change. It was tied to an I/O channel; the deadstart operation would run an I/O read operation on that channel to load the initial

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 9/23/22 13:38, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Sep 23, 2022, at 1:35 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 9/23/22 09:53, Paul Koning wrote: Those are good examples, but is it "many" or just those two and maybe one or two more? For example, Burroughs and IBM mainframes were both very much "lights

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 9/23/22 12:53, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Sep 23, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 9/22/22 22:56, ben via cctalk wrote: Blinking lights tended to be for computers of the future. World maps with lights where nuclear missiles could strike seem to be movie props

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
On Sep 23, 2022, at 1:35 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > On 9/23/22 09:53, Paul Koning wrote: > >> Those are good examples, but is it "many" or just those two and maybe one or >> two more? For example, Burroughs and IBM mainframes were both very much >> "lights and switches" control panel type

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 9/23/22 09:09, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Sep 22, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: I cannot understand the mindset of people who buy up components desperately sought by others who want to restore machines just to nail them to their man cave or living room wall.

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/23/22 09:53, Paul Koning wrote: > Those are good examples, but is it "many" or just those two and maybe one or > two more? For example, Burroughs and IBM mainframes were both very much > "lights and switches" control panel type machines. For that matter, so were > the other CDC

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 10:44 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Tom Hunter Subject: [cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel. I cannot understand the mindset of people who buy up components desperately sought by others who want to restore machines just to nail

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2022, at 1:09 PM, Joshua Rice via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > The Cray was often coupled witha DG nova for bootstrapping, which very much > did have a front panel on it. Indeed, many models of PDP-10 were bootstrapped > by PDP-11’s with front panels, even if the PDP-10 lacked

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> Those are good examples, but is it "many" or just those two and maybe > one or two more? For example, Burroughs and IBM mainframes were both > very much "lights and switches" control panel type machines. For > that matter, so were the other CDC products; the 6000 series was a > bit of an

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > I thought it curious that many 1960s-1970s supercomputers lacked front > panels and blinking lights altogether.(e.g. Cray I, CDC > Cyber/600/700, etc.) Indeed, the Cray couldn't even spin a tape without > help from

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 23, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 9/22/22 22:56, ben via cctalk wrote: > >> Blinking lights tended to be for computers of the future. >> World maps with lights where nuclear missiles could strike >> seem to be movie props only. > I thought it curious

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/22/22 22:56, ben via cctalk wrote: > Blinking lights tended to be for computers of the future. > World maps with lights where nuclear missiles could strike > seem to be movie props only. I thought it curious that many 1960s-1970s supercomputers lacked front panels and blinking lights

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
Well, as it turns out I have a full PDP-8/M front panel, including the board, which I *believe* is compatible with an 8/E, but has LED lights instead of incandescent ones (one might have to check to make sure that the pin with the lamp power isn't used on the baord.) [It is a FULL front

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Of course I meant disk platters in working configuration as in disk packs or stacks of platters on a spindle, not loose platers extracted from packs or stacks and converted into coffee tables or wall ornaments.:-) Tom On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 9:09 PM Paul Koning wrote: > > > > On Sep 22,

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
When was that? On Thu., Sep. 22, 2022, 9:04 p.m. Chris Zach via cctalk, < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > True. I wound up giving away an HP1000 with front panel, because no one > wanted it. So they do exist out there... > > C > > > On 9/22/2022 3:42 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > Look

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 22, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Tom Hunter via cctalk > wrote: > > I cannot understand the mindset of people who buy up components desperately > sought by others who want to restore machines just to nail them to their > man cave or living room wall. > These same types of people vacuum up

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread TerraHertz via cctalk
Speaking of orphan front panels... Anyone have an unwanted PDP 8/s front lights PCB? I have a machine in my restoration queue, almost complete except for that PCB. Presumably someone once took the board out to replace some blown light bulbs, then gave up and never replaced it. Lazy bugger. At

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 8:42 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > Look for less well-known mini computers. No, please don't If the machine it less well known, it is very likely that many fewer have survived. As a result ruining one for its front panel is going to make said machine even harder

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-23 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 9/22/22 22:56, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2022-09-22 11:30 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 9/22/22 21:49, Teo Zenios via cctalk wrote: I assume some of that stuff was purchased for TV show or movie props. I recall all of the IBM 1620 front panels in "The Forbin Project", along

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2022-09-22 11:30 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 9/22/22 21:49, Teo Zenios via cctalk wrote: I assume some of that stuff was purchased for TV show or movie props. I recall all of the IBM 1620 front panels in "The Forbin Project", along with CDC 3000 series (green glass) cabinets.

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2022-09-22 10:49 p.m., Teo Zenios via cctalk wrote: I assume some of that stuff was purchased for TV show or movie props. Anyway you can't really complain unless you know the origins of those front panels. Some of that equipment was scrapped a long time ago and somebody found the front

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/22/22 21:49, Teo Zenios via cctalk wrote: > I assume some of that stuff was purchased for TV show or movie props. I recall all of the IBM 1620 front panels in "The Forbin Project", along with CDC 3000 series (green glass) cabinets. In fact, I recently pointed out to James at

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Teo Zenios via cctalk
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Tom Hunter Subject: [cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel. I cannot understand the mindset of people who buy up components desperately sought by others who want to restore machines just to nail them to their man cave or living room wall

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2022-09-22 8:44 p.m., Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: I cannot understand the mindset of people who buy up components desperately sought by others who want to restore machines just to nail them to their man cave or living room wall. These same types of people vacuum up core memory boards,

[cctalk] Re: Minicomputer front panel.

2022-09-22 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
LOL I've got a B2700 front panel & console; I doubt that there are many 2700s out there complete except for the front panel but if you do have one send me a note ;-) m On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 11:31 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 11:17 PM jim

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2022-09-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Cut a hole in the wall. Mount the front panel on the wall, with the machine, still connected to it, on the other side of the wall. (like an ancient New Yorker cartoon, of an elephant head on the wall, with the rest of the elephant standing on the other side of the wall.) I had an ex,

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2022-09-22 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 11:17 PM jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 9/22/22 10:05, Peter Van Peborgh via cctalk wrote: > > I know this is sacrilege but I am looking for the front panel of a *Data > > General Nova *and/or *a DEC PDP 8/11/12/15*. > > Why? I collect

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2022-09-22 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 9/22/22 10:05, Peter Van Peborgh via cctalk wrote: I know this is sacrilege but I am looking for the front panel of a *Data General Nova *and/or *a DEC PDP 8/11/12/15*. Why? I collect artefacts from the days of the minicomputer and earlier and I want them for my collection/display. They

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2022-09-22 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I cannot understand the mindset of people who buy up components desperately sought by others who want to restore machines just to nail them to their man cave or living room wall. These same types of people vacuum up core memory boards, keyboards, disk platters, 9-track tapes, etc just for bragging

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2022-09-22 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
True. I wound up giving away an HP1000 with front panel, because no one wanted it. So they do exist out there... C On 9/22/2022 3:42 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: Look for less well-known mini computers. On Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 1:47 PM Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: It is sacrelege! In

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2022-09-22 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Look for less well-known mini computers. On Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 1:47 PM Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: > It is sacrelege! > > In all honesty, real front panels are expensive. An 11/40 front panel sold > recently on eBay for $2000! (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314122754771 < >

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2022-09-22 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
It is sacrelege! In all honesty, real front panels are expensive. An 11/40 front panel sold recently on eBay for $2000! (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314122754771 ) They’re also hard to come by, and most that have them are going to be very reluctant to