On Fri, 21 Jul 2017, Sam O'nella wrote:
Extremely interesting Fred. I hadn't heard of half of those experimental
disk sizes. ??Are those stories from your experience or from that
article? (Yes I'll rtfm shortly).
Definitely my experiences and presence in the business at the time, NOT
from art
> On 21 Jul 2017, at 11:46, Liam Proven via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> I was aware of Twiggy disks, Hitachi 3" as used in Amstrad and Tatung,
> and of one that I think Fred _didn't_ mention: the 2" 720 kB diskettes
> used in the Zenith Minisport:
>
> http://oldcomputers.net/zenith-minisport.html
>
>
> From: Liam Proven
> I confess to much trepidation at the hate for keyboard collectors, as I
> am one.
> ...
> We're not _all_ evil, you know.
Unfortunately, the percentage who _are_ willing to chop up original machines,
leaving them non-functional (as in this case), is suffi
On 21 July 2017 at 07:03, Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote:
> Extremely interesting Fred. I hadn't heard of half of those experimental disk
> sizes. Are those stories from your experience or from that article? (Yes
> I'll rtfm shortly).
> The only odd one i have is a backup cartridge? that resemble
Eric said:
> I think Shugart settled on 5.25" for the size of a minifloppy at least a
> year, and more likely two years, before Steve Jobs would have visited. I
> don't have proof, but SA400 public intro was in 1976, and they probably
> took more than a year of development to get to that point.
Fo
Extremely interesting Fred. I hadn't heard of half of those experimental disk
sizes. Are those stories from your experience or from that article? (Yes I'll
rtfm shortly).
The only odd one i have is a backup cartridge? that resembles around a 3.5" but
is in fact closer to the mythical 12" floppy
On Jul 19, 2017 10:15 AM, "Fred Cisin via cctalk"
wrote:
> That Steve Jobs was pestering them for a cheap drive, but due to the
holes in his jeans and personal hygiene?, they never took him seriously.
I think Shugart settled on 5.25" for the size of a minifloppy at least a
year, and more likely t
h the punch and the art
in one fell swoop.
Marc
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"cctalk@classiccmp.org"
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Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 6:03 AM
To: "cctalk@classiccmp.org"
Subject: Repurposed Art (ahem...)
Re-
"That is why they switched from 8 foot to 5.25 foot floppies."
LOL
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >> Did any one ever use keypunch to tape or 8' floppy?
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote:
> > Those 8' floppies were a PITA
Did any one ever use keypunch to tape or 8' floppy?
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote:
Those 8' floppies were a PITA to handle and store, but
they sure held a lot of data...
;-P
That is why they switched from 8 foot to 5.25 foot floppies.
Punchcard size is reputed to have been
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Subject: Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)
> On 7/18/2017 2:11 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>>> at least they did not glue a bu
From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of ben via cctalk
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Subject: Re: Repurposed Art (ahem...)
On 7/18/2017 2:11 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
>
On 18.07.2017 16:27, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk <
From a seller's point of view, they've got a keypunch that's worth less
painted than if it were original, unless you're an art fanatic with lots of
space to display such
Pete -
Sad about the McGraw-Hill Electronics
Which issues are you missing!?
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)
In a message dated 7/18/2017 9:43:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
The paint job doesn't bother me much. I had a working 26 that I d
The paint job doesn't bother me much. I had a working 26 that I donated to
CHM. Its things like selling the keyboard then expecting to get more the
$20 for the remains. My Teletype version of that is a Western Union 2-B in
good shape missing all it key caps and motor. Both pulled to sell to the
'st
I collect older teleprinters (Teletype, Morkrum-Kleinschmidt, etc) and
twice now I've seen where they have had their keyboards removed and the
machine put out for scrap. One a quite rare Navy version of the model 28
known as a compact case variation where someone had used what looked like a
recipro
On 07/18/2017 09:45 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
Did any one ever use keypunch to tape or 8' floppy?
I got a Pertec key to tape machine surplus in about 1982 or
so. it had a keyboard and a field of submini lights that
lit up the letters, numbers, etc on a panel. You could
write 80 character re
On 7/18/2017 2:11 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Ed via cctalk wrote:
at least they did not glue a bunch of gears on it and call it steam
punk...
I have run across weird glued and punked items on ebay... what a
bunch
of AH's
a model 026 punch is already a master
Ed said
> Re-purposed art or vandalism?
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943
>
> Ed
> --
> Ik email, dus ik besta.
I would guess that the paint used was acrylic rather than oil enamel.
Being water-based it ought to be easier to remove if the casings were
taken off and pressure washed, than hav
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Ed via cctalk wrote:
at least they did not glue a bunch of gears on it and call it steam
punk...
I have run across weird glued and punked items on ebay... what a bunch
of AH's
a model 026 punch is already a masterpiece of steam punk.
A model 029, on the other hand,
at least they did not glue a bunch of gears on it and call it steam
punk...
I have run across weird glued and punked items on ebay... what a bunch
of AH's
In a message dated 7/18/2017 7:20:21 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8
tell ya about it sometime offlist Mike
In a message dated 7/18/2017 12:41:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
It wasn't the LIS collectors that did that, it was 20th Century Fox
back in the '60s. I'm not aware of a single LIS collector that ever had
Hey Pete! there was also a rage of ripping off the early key tops with
the metal rim and celoid over the letters to make women's jewelry... the
scoundrels ripped up tty units and typewriters also.
These are the teletype units I really like to collect ... those with the
old keys..
It wasn't the LIS collectors that did that, it was 20th Century Fox
back in the '60s. I'm not aware of a single LIS collector that ever had
access to a B205.
Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com
or lost in space collectors that rip the b205 front panel from the
machine and leave the rest to be destroyed in fire or flood...
In a message dated 7/18/2017 11:27:44 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
Keyboard collectors are a great evil in this worl
On Jul 18, 2017, at 6:03 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctech wrote:
> Re-purposed art or vandalism?
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943
I guess that depends on whether there's a record of it in the Customer
Engineering Incident Reporting Log Book.
ok
bear.
--
until further notice
On 18 July 2017 at 20:27, Ian Finder via cctalk wrote:
> Keyboard collectors are a great evil in this world. I liken them to ivory
> poachers.
I appreciate that bottom-posting just got a bit harder on Gmail, but
it still works.
I confess to much trepidation at the hate for keyboard collectors, a
Keyboard collectors are a great evil in this world. I liken them to ivory
poachers.
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Re-purposed art or vandalism?
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943
>>>
>>
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Eric Christopherson vi
Re-purposed art or vandalism?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Eric Christopherson via cctalk wrote:
It (literally) looks like something out of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.
Earlier than that.
The seller may have grown up with Peewee Herman,
but that kind of painting decoratio
the keyboard is gone
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
When they die, I hope whoever got it ends up in that special
Hell where keyboard collectors go.
It has every keyboard they ever wanted, but they have no arms.
They can keep their arms.
Just no FINGERS.
On 07/18/2017 08:03 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk wrote:
Re-purposed art or vandalism?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943
Ed
--
Ik email, dus ik besta.
looks like it might still work! No, I don't think that's
vandalism. Heck, I saw some decorated machines in real use
that were not too d
On 2017-07-18 12:40 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 7/18/17 8:34 AM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:
the keyboard is gone
When they die, I hope whoever got it ends up in that special
Hell where keyboard collectors go.
It has every keyboard they ever wanted, but they have no arms.
Yes agre
Hey, it could be worse. A related auction shows a model 26 (not repainted)
being offered for $25,000. Bizarre.
paul
> On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Paul Berger via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Oh the horror!
>
> Note in the auction says that the keyboard is gone, but still wants $599 .99
>
On 7/18/17 8:34 AM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:
> the keyboard is gone
When they die, I hope whoever got it ends up in that special
Hell where keyboard collectors go.
It has every keyboard they ever wanted, but they have no arms.
Oh the horror!
Note in the auction says that the keyboard is gone, but still wants $599
.99 and you need to pick it up yourself, u maybe not
Paul.
On 2017-07-18 11:27 AM, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk <
cctalk@class
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk
wrote:
>>> I would think it would be worth more in its original condition.
> ... at this point I'd wager the larger audience either wants it
> for parts (in which case $599 is probably also too much)
That was kind of my thought - would
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> On 18.07.2017 16:10, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>
>>
>> I would think it would be worth more in its original condition.
>>
>
> I'm not sure. Because it looks cool. And I'm not sure if an old IB
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:03 AM, E. Groenenberg via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Re-purposed art or vandalism?
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943
>
> Ed
> --
> Ik email, dus ik besta.
>
>
It (literally) looks like something out of Pee-Wee's Playhouse.
--
Eric Christop
On 18.07.2017 16:10, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
I would think it would be worth more in its original condition.
I'm not sure. Because it looks cool. And I'm not sure if an old IBM
punch is worth that much. And there's quite a possibility that people
(users) remember the funny painted
: Repurposed Art (ahem...)
Re-purposed art or vandalism?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943
Ed
--
Ik email, dus ik besta.
On 18.07.2017 15:42, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> From: Ed Groenenberg
> Re-purposed art or vandalism?
Given that the keyboard was at one point there (in the images), but has now
apparently been sold separate, clearly the latter...
Stupid idiot who sold the keyboard separately!
> From: Ed Groenenberg
> Re-purposed art or vandalism?
Given that the keyboard was at one point there (in the images), but has now
apparently been sold separate, clearly the latter...
Noel
Re-purposed art or vandalism?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/253015301943
Ed
--
Ik email, dus ik besta.
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