Re: any interest in a power macintosh 6100/66?

2016-10-15 Thread devin davison
Located in Vero Beach Florida, 32967 Sorry, forgot to mention location --Devin On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 11:43 PM, wrote: > Or Atlanta perhaps? > Todd Killingsworth > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 15, 2016, at 11:28 PM, Paxton Hoag >

Re: any interest in a power macintosh 6100/66?

2016-10-15 Thread killingsworth . todd
Or Atlanta perhaps? Todd Killingsworth Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2016, at 11:28 PM, Paxton Hoag wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:55 PM, devin davison wrote: >> >> I picked up a bit of an odball power macintosh 6100 a while back. It

Re: Getting out of the hobby

2016-10-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/15/2016 08:06 PM, drlegendre . wrote: > " I can read about using arsphenamine to treat syphilis, for example > (historically important), without contracting the disease and > treating it myself just for "the experience"." > > Thanks for that, Chuck.. while it makes the point, it's still one

Re: any interest in a power macintosh 6100/66?

2016-10-15 Thread Paxton Hoag
On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 6:55 PM, devin davison wrote: > I picked up a bit of an odball power macintosh 6100 a while back. It has a > 486 cpu at 66 mhz in it as well, so you can run dos on it or something. > Overall looks to be in somewhat working shape, but does not boot. I

Re: Getting out of the hobby

2016-10-15 Thread drlegendre .
" I can read about using arsphenamine to treat syphilis, for example (historically important), without contracting the disease and treating it myself just for "the experience"." Thanks for that, Chuck.. while it makes the point, it's still one of the screwiest analogies ever. Love it. Gotta pull

RE: Getting out of the hobby

2016-10-15 Thread Ali
> Just wait until the hipsters discover syphilis, and the prices go > through the roof on eBay thanks to opportunistic syphilis flippers. I don't know about the price of syphilis but the price of treating syphilis has gone through the roof. But I digress... :)

Re: Getting out of the hobby

2016-10-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/15/2016 05:49 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: > On 10/15/16 12:49, Chuck Guzis wrote: >> >> I can read about using arsphenamine to treat syphilis, for example >> (historically important), without contracting the disease and >> treating it myself just for "the experience". > > Well, thanks for

Re: Getting out of the hobby

2016-10-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Oct 15, 2016, at 19:33, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > > I treat syphilis, in case anyone on this list requires that. Just wait until the hipsters discover syphilis, and the prices go through the roof on eBay thanks to opportunistic syphilis flippers. -- Mark J. Blair,

Re: Getting out of the hobby

2016-10-15 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> > I can read about using arsphenamine > > to treat syphilis, for example (historically important), without > > contracting the disease and treating it myself just for "the experience". > > Well, thanks for not drawing a *direct* comparison between those of us > still more engaged in collecting

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Oct 15, 2016, at 19:02, Sam O'nella wrote: > > Congratulations! Fun to find some of the wooden generation of computers. Keep > us posted on the restoration efforts (if any) :-) I don't think I have any other wooden computers yet. The seller had an interesting tale

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Sam O'nella
Congratulations! Fun to find some of the wooden generation of computers. Keep us posted on the restoration efforts (if any) :-) Original message From: "Mark J. Blair" 》the deal to be completed in a little over a week

any interest in a power macintosh 6100/66?

2016-10-15 Thread devin davison
I picked up a bit of an odball power macintosh 6100 a while back. It has a 486 cpu at 66 mhz in it as well, so you can run dos on it or something. Overall looks to be in somewhat working shape, but does not boot. I do not hear the hard drive spinning, I am guessing it is bad.I can get it to power

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
As promised, I have an update: The seller and I have finished haggling, with the deal to be completed in a little over a week, for an undisclosed sum to be paid in small, unmarked bills. Thanks for the help, folks! -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: Getting out of the hobby

2016-10-15 Thread Steven M Jones
On 10/15/16 12:49, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > I can read about using arsphenamine > to treat syphilis, for example (historically important), without > contracting the disease and treating it myself just for "the experience". Well, thanks for not drawing a *direct* comparison between those of us

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:42, Corey Cohen wrote: > > The disk drive can really affect value. If it's a Northstar system, then > maybe add 400 bucks the most. If it's a Helios. A working drive can be > priceless if the drive is still the original Persci one. I

Re: Unibus controller for MFM disks

2016-10-15 Thread Mike Ross
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > I can only think of one, the AED WINC-08 RL02 system, but that used 8" drives > Good luck finding one, and the matching interface card. I don't think Qualogy > Emulex or Dilog ever made MFM for Unibus. MFM controllers were

Re: Unibus controller for MFM disks

2016-10-15 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
> On Oct 15, 2016, at 7:33 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > > I hope someone gets a Q/Unibus non-mscp small disk emulator PCB built > some day. I wonder if Guy has had any time to work on his. > No, I haven’t had any time to work on stuff. I still have the prototype MEM11A

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Corey Cohen
corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ > On Oct 15, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > >> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016, Corey Cohen wrote: >> A few more things to note. Assume the keyboard needs new foam, no big deal. >> Check the wood to make sure it's not cracked. And make sure you have

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sat, 15 Oct 2016, Ian S. King wrote: Please tell me that said institution has since been burned to the ground. "That junk", indeed. WHEN they burn to the ground (there are four campuses and a small complex of administration buildings), I will lose my retirement health benefits. But, my

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Ian S. King
On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > But then, the college tried to FIRE him for, among other things, > retrieving computers from college dumpsters and having too much old > computer stuff. The judge of the arbitration reversed the firing, but the > college

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sat, 15 Oct 2016, Corey Cohen wrote: A few more things to note. Assume the keyboard needs new foam, no big deal. Check the wood to make sure it's not cracked. And make sure you have the personality module included. Does the disk system include a boot disk? Minus a few hundred, if not!

Re: NWA auctions (GP-4, SEL 32)

2016-10-15 Thread Cory Heisterkamp
On Oct 13, 2016, at 9:33 AM, William Maddox wrote: > This looks like a GP-4, though I am suspicious that parts of it have been > modernized. The GP-4 had a drum memory. > >

Re: Getting out of the hobby

2016-10-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/14/2016 10:06 PM, drlegendre . wrote: > If my previous observations on the genesis of the list don't match > reality, I'm perfectly willing to be corrected - in fact, I like what > I've been hearing about the origins of the list. That said, the vast > majority of list traffic seems to

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Corey Cohen
> On Oct 15, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > > >> On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:04, Brad H >> wrote: >> >> >> >> SOL-20s have been all over the map. Ive seen similar units diverge by as >> much as $500 for nothing obvious I can see.

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Oct 15, 2016, at 12:04, Brad H wrote: > > > > SOL-20s have been all over the map. Ive seen similar units diverge by as > much as $500 for nothing obvious I can see. The average for unknown, > complete, decent cosmetic condition seems to be around

Re: Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Brad H
SOL-20s have been all over the map.  Ive seen similar units diverge by as much as $500 for nothing obvious I can see.  The average for unknown, complete, decent cosmetic condition seems to be around $900. With extras probably $1300? Sent from my Samsung device Original message

Reasonable price for a complete SOL-20 system?

2016-10-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
I have an opportunity to make a "reasonable offer" on a fairly complete SOL-20 system. It would include a floppy drive cabinet and some software, but no monitor. It's a "working when retired" system, so I assume that the keyboard has died of old age and some capacitors might have dried out;

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-15 Thread Tony Aiuto
Yes. The 8 & 9 machines were ECL, the rest were TTL. IIRC, those were the 32/87, 9780, PN9600. David mentioned disks on the PN (Unix) series. Those were formatted with multiple of 512 byte sectors. The RTM/MPX machines used 768 byte sectors, which was super optimal for the disks they happened to

RE: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-15 Thread Rick Bensene
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tony Aiuto Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 7:29 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions) I used most of the SEL/Gould/Encore machines. The

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-15 Thread ANDY HOLT
- Original Message - > From: "David Brownlee" > > We had a PN9080 and PN6040 at City University as the main systems in the > late 90's Ah, yes, "The Magic Roundabout" - was three 6040s and one 9080. I still possess the Gould nameplate from the 9000. They were the last

Re: LA36, LA120 prints

2016-10-15 Thread Richard Loken
On Sat, 15 Oct 2016, Al Kossow wrote: scanned.. no time to post-process right now If someone REALLY needs this, LMK My read of this is that have all the Sun-1 and DECwriter II and III docs that matter so I will pass on all this paper to somebody else without thinking furter about scanning

DRAM for the 6085/1186

2016-10-15 Thread Al Kossow
FYI www.ebay.com/itm/112167073659 This guy was the second listing he's put up. I suspect he has more. I tried the two sets he put up the first time, and they work fine on the 6085. They are hard enough to find at that price, I thought I'd let people know. He also has the Fujitsu MB8266A

Re: LA36, LA120 prints

2016-10-15 Thread Al Kossow
scanned.. no time to post-process right now If someone REALLY needs this, LMK For the couple of people that have been to my new office, there is a 3ft high 4ft long pile of paper in front of the scanner right now that I haven't had time to even look at. On 10/14/16 10:21 PM, Richard Loken

Re: Manuaal for the original Sun Workstation

2016-10-15 Thread Al Kossow
I may have scanned other versions, no time to look right now. and.. people are STILL trying to find a good copy of the Sun Microsystems 68000 boot prom, as far as I know. On 10/14/16 10:05 PM, Richard Loken wrote: > the one above is the previous version to the manual I have. According > to the

Re: Unibus controller for MFM disks

2016-10-15 Thread Al Kossow
I can only think of one, the AED WINC-08 RL02 system, but that used 8" drives Good luck finding one, and the matching interface card. I don't think Qualogy Emulex or Dilog ever made MFM for Unibus. MFM controllers were mainly a QBus market. I suppose some day I should make a list of all of the

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-15 Thread David Brownlee
On 15 October 2016 at 03:29, Tony Aiuto wrote: > I used most of the SEL/Gould/Encore machines. The 32/77 was an original > SEL design, from before Gould bought them. It ran MPX-32, their real-time > OS. TTL based. The 32/87 was ECL, in a much bigger cabinet. They made >

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-15 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rick Bensene > Some of the machines in the series had a very powerful (for the time) > floating point unit (known as the IPU) that operated in tandem with the > main CPU I wonder if the machines in the auction had this? Noel

Re: Getting out of the hobby

2016-10-15 Thread william degnan
On Oct 15, 2016 1:06 AM, "drlegendre ." wrote: > > > > > There are still plenty of enthusiastic, younger folks who are most > >> definitely into running the "genuine old hardware" - it's just that > >> > > this > > > list hasn't traditionally offered much of a draw for these