On Thu, 13 Jan 2022, Mike Katz wrote:
Please let me know the cost and I will be happy to paypal it to you.
Okay, I will dig it up and find a box and get back to you on Monday.
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I have, as far as I recall, a 8" single sided full height Shugart drive here
that I swapped out of my Trash 80 Model II for a pair of half height DSDD
drives many many years ago.
I can send it to you for the cost of postage if it is of use to you.
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replaced the 1750
with a Deskjet 500 that I also fished out of the trash at work and ran for
ten years without any major repairs but I had retired the TRS80 by the
time I got the DeskJet 500 so I never tried to make it work with WordStar.
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The H8575s have found a new home.
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** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
, Alberta?
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if I look around
for half an hour.
I have no idea where you are but I can send it to you for the price of
shipping which would be astronomical I expect. I hesitate to ship the
monitor - that would be had work - but the other components can be managed.
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and
I paid honest money for them but I doubt I can afford the price of a VMS
license.
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** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
meet in the middle, have a beer together, and trade
trailers. :)
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, ben via cctalk wrote:
Now why could it not be a nice little PDP 11.
Ben.
I once had a pDp11/04 which I let go, it did not seem like much at the
time but now I feel differantly.
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the
rest of it into scrap metal.
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** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
Lyndon, I have never heard of her before and had no idea. I am frequently
amazed when I discover just how much you know... Or how much spare time
to surf the web for obsure stuff... Either way you earn my respect.
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I've seen that cat before but we printed them on a line printer since the
company did not like us using the high quality Diablo for such nonsense.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, Tony Duell wrote:
On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 2:42 PM Richard Loken via cctalk
wrote:
I'm not in Canada but I have a Volker-Craig VC414 (APL version) _with the
service manual_. This is a poor copy (obtained from VC -- and they forgot
to copy half of one of the schematics so
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019, Mike Kenzie via cctalk wrote:
I have a several in Ottawa as well. A few different brands, ASR, Dec, VC
Do you have any Volker-Craig user or service documentation? Docs from
Canadian companies seem to disappear in a puff of green smoke.
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them soon if you come get them
yourself. You can get them later if you wait for me to bring them to you.
Volker-Craigs were built out of TTL in Waterloo, Ontario between 1980
and 1985 and they do RS-232. I probably have the service manual if I
look hard.
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earlier the last surviving L-1011 (or was it a DC10?) flight simulator
was in Vancouver and it was controlled by a VAX-11/7?? long after VAXen had
fallen out of fashion.
PDP11 boxes and VAXen show up in some really obscure places.
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote:
I also know I think other have their dibs in first. But if they wash out...
Thanks John, I will keep you in mind.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada
away the weekend of February 8
and would have to get somebody else meet you and help you load.
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** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
all or
part of the collection. I will consider shipping if that is what it comes
down to but the packing and transprotation will be expensive for the DS15
and extremely expensive for the other units.
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Atha
that the DS20 mother boards had hardware on them such as USB
controllers and maybe SCSI controllers that were not supported by either
OS.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rllo...
seriously don't care what happens to their data or their disks.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018, Kevin McQuiggin wrote:
I have a couple of compatible drives that I use on my Microvaxes, if you
could spare say 6 then that?d be great. I live in Vancouver and of course
would pay shipping!
Good! Six down, 114 to go! I will get six for you.
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2018, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 12/17/2018 04:02 PM, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote:
I have immediate access to four Alphaservers, an RA8000 raid server, and
the associated fibre switches in need of a new home.
Where are the servers located? Are they in Athabasca
a lifetime
of spare cartridges already.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
depending on the whim of the present owner.
Lots of paper docs and Tru64 OS installation kits but no licenses.
They can be had for free but shipping will most assuridly not be free.
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Athabasca, Alberta C
FreeBSD runs out of the box because I immediately delete it
and install Motif.
FreeBSD may not have the installed base of Linux but it has a its fans.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
need no stinkin' intel around here.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
- I have done that too.
DEC and Compaq also sold DLTs in a StorageWorks module those can also be
taken apart and the drive replaced but they are harder to get apart and
you must pay attention if you hope to get it reassembled properly.
Doug
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On Sun, 4 Feb 2018, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
One of the Suns is a Sun1 pre-production
Perhaps a pre-production Sparc? I had a long personal relationship with
a Sun-1 and nothing there looks remotely like a Sun-1.
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the deck and shuffled his deck
well before returning his ID card to the top and resubmitting it. I never
heard a thing about that episode but I sometimes wonder what his next
output looked like.
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Athabasca, Alberta C
it should be called the Icarus Project rather than the Pheonix
Project since Icarus flew too close to the sun and fell to his death in
compoarison to the Pheonix who dies in flames and rises from his own
ashes. I don't see much hope of this Pheonix rising any time soon.
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using a font that supports UTF-8...
And how does one know that a font supports UTF-8?
And yes UTF-8 has been around for decades but as an English speaker I didn't
have to think about unicode and locale and stuff like that.
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be Netscape 3?. But remember!!
It is spelled Netscape but it is pronounced Mozilla! :)
I still have that 3100. I wonder if the disk will spin up? I took out
the battery on general principle, it is sitting up here beside me with
nary a leak, it has been lying there for years...
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It seems to me that somebody recently was looking for an LK201 style
keyboard with the RJ style connector. If somebody is indeed looking for
such a keyboard then send me an email, I came across a couple today that
I may be able to aquire.
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eliminate fragmentation, that
would not be possible with a raw block by block copy.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!"
** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
m. I will have to dig it out some time...
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** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
an electrical outlet,
and reseated the memory modules but all that is behind me now.
It is using lots of electricity and making lots of noise while displaying
a Motif session in a 19" liquid crystal monitor without a stand...
What could be better than this?
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. This is work worth
doing IMHO.
I also have a long neglected plan to port the heirloom troff/nroff code
over to VMS just because I am too lazy to switch to Digital Standard Runoff.
No matter what the platform, of all the image viewers/editors out there,
XV is the viewer I love the best!!
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On Tue, 16 May 2017, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Retirement as an attempt to gain more free time just doesn't work.
I have already learned that in only four months.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are
and there are a bunch of patches to get some more
recent formats running on it but I could not resolve all the dependancies
when I last tried to compile them in. I am now retired so maybe I will find
the time to get all that software glued together.
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** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
tty and within
travelling distance of Edmonton, Alberta reads this, those items are
reported to be there for taking. Oh, and bring a truck and a very strong
friend.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are
, and waiting a Micro$oft minute for things
to happen that used to be immediate.
And you are right, Micro$ofts loves SPFs but they do nothing at all to
expedite our mail through their servers.
And in honour of Micro$oft, SPFs, and my 21st century managers, I am
retiring in 29 days.
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am my employer's email administrator and I know that I was
not doing anything special to make the email go through - no spf records,
no nothing.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear
On Sun, 20 Nov 2016, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
There's a Rogue for the Alpha Micro. I don't have source for it either,
but it runs very well.
What is an Alpha Micro?
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Athabasca Unive
On Sun, 20 Nov 2016, Antonio Carlini wrote:
There is a rogue that runs on VAX/VMS as I definitely played it a little back
in the day.
I don't think I had the sources, just a .EXE, so that may not work so well
for Alpha.
Now THAT is interesting! I wonder where it went to?
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, took the 'g' off "gcc" in the
makefile, used sed to change ncurses to curses where ever it could be
found and compiled it. AND IT WORKS SWELL!
Rogue is as addictive today as it was in 1982 on the VAX-11/780 running
4.2bsd. I think I will port it to OpenVMS and run it on my AS4100.
--
? Sure isn't one here.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta Canada: heads are naked!"
** rllo...
5.5-1 stuff, there seems to be an entire distro
there plus a lot of layered products. These are reduntant, my employer's
last VAX is now sleeping in my basement.
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Athabasca University : t
in that
proved impossible for me to find.
It changes from model to model and generation to generation.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta C
proms
which I do not have.) I have until January 1 to find homes for a lot of
this stuff before it stops being available to me and starts to be
destroyed.
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Athabasca University : tuqu
at
I dealt with had a CDC Lark cartridge unit and I still have some of the
old Lark cartridges and no possible way to read them.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca,
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
On 10/12/2016 9:30 PM, Richard Loken wrote:
And five requests for these manuals.
Is someone going to scan them? Have they been scanned already? I guess I
should look :-P
I too would like to know if these manuals have been scanned already
The offer of DPC manuals led to many happy reminscenses but only one
request for the manuals (with a promise to scan them).
Are there scans of these manuals available on-line?
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Athabasca Unive
And five requests for these manuals.
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** rllo...
I received seven requests for the Sun Workstation manual. I guess I will
draw a name from a hat or something...
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta C
principles of operation
Yours for the postage but I doubt anybody wants them.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta Canada: heads are
I have fallen a across a bound set of LA36 and LA120 engineering drawings.
Anybody want them for the cost of mailing them?
Remember the good old days when you not only got a printer but detailed
service information including a big set of engineering drawings? Sigh.
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?
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Athabasca University: but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** t...@athabascau.ca **: - Lyn
of
documentation and (good grief!) the original mouse.
Anybody want any DEC 3000 parts?
Or a couple of ES45 CPU cards? I have two those also.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Atha
Mark, I strongly support the addition of Oscar to your Mac Pro.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta Canada: heads are naked!"
upon the recommendation of my long time friend
G.L.Nerenberg II. And it says underneath "WASD Model: V2 Type: Cherry MX
Green". It is gloriously noisy!
I have an aluminum Apple keyboard in the box this keyboard came out of,
those Apple chicklet keyboard are just plain horrible.
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looks like a very elegant $3,000.00
can of tomato juice. Not much changes.
Meanwhile, I am on my second mac Mini (third if you count my wife's)
because i really like the mac mini so I probably would have bought the
cube if I had been in the market for a mac at that time.
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in the crudest manner possible.
Namely this:
/* Name:clean_cp.c
* Purpose: copy an rms file and ignore record length
* Author: Richard Loken
* Date:17-Dec-1986
* Modified:30-Sep-1987 - RLL Throw out any \r's that may be in the file.
* 07-Oct-1987
foo.new
sigh.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada: heads are naked!"
** rllo...@telus.net ** :
(from a 4025?) labelled ERASE.
Anybody want it for the postage? It should be fairly cheap to mail.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta C
if you skip steps.
"System unstable, save often."
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta Canada: heads are na
-1996 00:33:26
DISK$UCX_BUILD2:[UCX.X42.BL21.SRC.NET]INET_USE
*/
/**
*****/
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a couple of the Version 5 paperback books that can send
you, one is a user's manual and the other AFAIR system manager's manual.
I am slowly emptying my office at work so they could move to your office.
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Athabasca Unive
; and I am not about
to open a can of worms by plugging it in.
There were slight variations over the time they were on the market
(firmware versions?). I don't remember whether this is an early or
later model.
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Athab
, Ronnie) nuking the
3B4K that night? Campbell might be in there, too. I lost my
(re-)collection ages ago :-(
I remember those pictures but they seem to be lost (maybe AT had them
seized and burned). I have never seen a machine more gleefully
dismembered then the 3B4000.
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colons,
logical names, symbols, and so forth.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta Canada: heads are naked!"
** rllo...
out noise and heat beside my desk but the linux box has
become my main computer.
I will probably take the 4100 home when I retire on December 31 so it
can warm up my basement.
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Athabasca Unive
must look at how
you have configured the Multinet email server, if you want to forward
to a decnet only machine or to All-in-One (rather than a VAXmail user)
then you will need to create some rewrite rules but Multinet should
deliver to a local VMS mailbox without clever manipulation.
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Richard L
very true on VMS (my favourite OS is a pig).
My buddy Ross measures speed by how long it take to build world on FreeBSD
but I haven't built the world on FreeBSD in over five years so I don't
care how long it takes.
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worked mostly with large
VAXen: the VAX 8600, 8650, 8820, 4000 model 300, and 4000 model 505A
as well as two little VAXstations: the 2000 and the 3100 and none of
them had a floppy drive.
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Athabasca Unive
CDrom drive, and the monochrome monitor.
I can open it up and provide you with information if you tell me what
you are looking for.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Atha
immediately lifted and rolled up.
I never finished the first board and I never started the second board.
Up until then I thought I knew how to solder.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear
nt subject.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta Canada: heads are naked!"
** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
) in 2016?
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada: heads are naked!"
** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
.
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Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our
Athabasca, Alberta Canada: heads are naked!"
** rllo...@telus.net ** :- Arthur Black
On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, Robert Jarratt wrote:
> Well, I have the exception that proves the rule. My H7864 PSU (from an
> rtVAX 1000, same PSU as MicroVAX II) had a switching transistor and
> resistor fail, no cap failures
Well, I did admit I was exagerrating. :)
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head involve teeth and I
can safely make a similar exageration:
All electronic failures involve capacitors
And this becomes (most repulsively) even more true when switch mode power
supplies are involved. Keeping that in mind will usually help with
diagnosis.
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l have to look into that.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richar...@adm
machine I want to use
to talk to a pdp8 or what have you. If you want a bullet proof teletype
console that weighs as much as you do, go find a model 37.
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}
That is hardly the language for this kind of statistic.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the tit
3.0Tbyte compressed!!!
Oh fuddle duddle1 I am going to have to send my brain back to the factory
for refurbishing! How can I repeatedly drop a decimal place and never
notice?
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Athaba
On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 et...@757.org wrote:
> 30Tbyte compressed*
> (100Gbyte uncompressed)
Well in this case they claim 15Tbyte uncompressed but 100Gbyte uncompressed
is still a lot more than a DLT-IV will hold.
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tive overhead is just as significant as the endless time spent
searching for errors and typos or the time consumed discovering how to do
something new and completely differant.
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Athabasca University
home.
As for cartidges, I am overwelmed with media - including three unopened
cartons of NIB DLT-IV cartridges.
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Athabasca University: but you have to earn
Athabasca, Albe
dabble in electronics
in my spare time. Five years later I working in computing instead of
broadcasting and everthing started to change.
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Athabasca University: but you have to earn
recall, the prof who sold it
to me had paid about $10,000.00 for it around 1978. It was still pretty
hard to lift without help.
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Athabasca University: but you have to earn
Athabasca
obtainable. Why not rebuild them?
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Athabasca University: but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'
** richar...@admin.athabascau.ca
you if you cannot find
an ISO.
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Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'
** richar...@admin.athabascau.ca
not see
the point of a VMS website that could not be used with a current VMS
browser. My only desktop at the time ran VMS (it was the only surviving VMS
workstation) so I would strike an Xterm session to some Unix box and run the
browser over there.
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695580857% /usr/local
As with you, it has been a long time since I looked closely at any of this.
I didn't understand the difference until I started looking at the
configuration when I went to answer your question. We haven't used the LSM
in years.
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from the disks?
See attached.
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Athabasca University: but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'
** richar...@admin.athabascau.ca
have been worth their while
to finish this migration years ago.
I will get my pick of them as they are shut off so I might put OpenVMS one
of them, maybe I will even use it to replace my AS4100 which was the box
that the ES45 replaced some 15 years ago.
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