Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Hello Phillip, This is hastily prepared but I am interested in purchasing a OMNI to USB interface. Is the list still open? Barry McMahon Sent from my iPad

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Thanks, Peter! Here it's way not as bad as on the Linux Kernel mailing list... I once came up with some nice additions to the ftdi usb serial driver. Reaction was something like "Do it right! Now!" The "right" was only a question how the thing should be controlled from the system's

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

> On Feb 20, 2017, at 06:24, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > Why is that nice? This way the pcb company has your "sourcecode". > Besides of that where is the real difference to going to > "File->Plot", Select "Gerber" and push the "Plot" Button? > > That can't really be to

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Philipp wrote: I am so sorry that I use Eagle! Please let us stop this discussion. It's just a tool. And KiCAD is another tool. I currently use Eagle and that's it. I'm with Philipp on this. Every time someone posts to the list to offer some piece of hardware they are developing, our

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Feb 17, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > > > ... > >> From: Guy Sotomayor Jr > > > >> In terms of community supplied libraries, Eagle has those too and I've > >> found that by and large they are junk (it's easier/quicker for me to

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 02/20/2017 02:30 PM, Holm Tiffe wrote: As I wrote two minutes ago: Perhaps I've gone too far by seeing KiCAD too close to the Arduino thing. I know at least one clever guy using KiCAD as well. Thanks for the flowers :-) Haha, I thought of someone outside of cctalk...! But.. you're welcome

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > > > I don't have a problem with your arduino related point of view, > :) > > > but I'm > > sure you never heard from the push and shove router that kicad implements? > I admit: you're right. > > > (take a look at youtube!) > > If you have used it once, egale would

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

I am so sorry that I use Eagle! Please let us stop this discussion. It's just a tool. And KiCAD is another tool. I currently use Eagle and that's it.

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 02/19/2017 04:28 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Feb 19, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: ... and I only grudgingly use Fusion 360 because there's no viable 3D CAD/CAM competition that I know of in its very low price range. A while ago I went looking for 3D CAD again, after

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

> On Feb 19, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Feb 19, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: >> ... and I only grudgingly use Fusion 360 because there's no viable 3D >> CAD/CAM competition that I know of in its very low price range. > > A

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

> On Feb 19, 2017, at 6:36 AM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > > ... > Wen I first encountered eagle it was running under DOS. No windows. Don't > remember if there was a schematic editor. And not much to click. Yes, it had schematic editor, board editor, and the same half-assed

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

> On Feb 19, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > ... and I only grudgingly use Fusion 360 because there's no viable 3D CAD/CAM > competition that I know of in its very low price range. A while ago I went looking for 3D CAD again, after giving up on TurboCAD in disgust.

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

> On Feb 19, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > Nevertheless, I don't think that I want to push you to use KiCad, > but you _really_ should change your attitude about it. This isn't really > playing stuff for kids anymore.. I previously paid about $1,500 for the top tier

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > > > > > For sure there are many things still todo for the KiCad people, but this > > nose high attitude "thats vor arduino people only" is the wrong thing > > for sure.. (german saying: Hochmut kommt vor dem Fall) > Haha, you probably got me wrong. I never even tried

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 18.02.2017 04:07, Jay Jaeger wrote: On 2/17/2017 10:01 AM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: On 02/17/2017 01:02 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: First of all THANKS. I hope this works out. ?!? The thanks was for your effort. The hope that it works out was to say that I hope that you decide to make

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

For sure there are many things still todo for the KiCad people, but this nose high attitude "thats vor arduino people only" is the wrong thing for sure.. (german saying: Hochmut kommt vor dem Fall) Haha, you probably got me wrong. I never even tried out KiCAD - because I had no idea why I

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 19.02.2017 12:15, Holm Tiffe wrote: In my opinion the learning step from using a fancy Arduino library to understanding/modifying/writing another is too big. In BASIC it started with little things like peek and poke. There was no hidden C++ :-) Agreed. I'm used some of the "shields" for

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

I don't have a problem with your arduino related point of view, :) but I'm sure you never heard from the push and shove router that kicad implements? I admit: you're right. (take a look at youtube!) If you have used it once, egale would look a lot like

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > > > On 17.02.2017 17:21, Kyle Owen wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Philipp Hachtmann > > > KiCad has no affiliation to Arduino; in fact, it's being heavily maintained > > by CERN. > But wherever I (!) look, in my part of the universe,

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 17.02.2017 17:55, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/17/2017 10:01 AM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: The CPLD you had on the last board, XC9572XL is a bit long in the tooth, perhaps? Would you expect to use that one again, or a newer chip? I will use it again. It was already old when I decided to use

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 17.02.2017 17:21, Kyle Owen wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Philipp Hachtmann KiCad has no affiliation to Arduino; in fact, it's being heavily maintained by CERN. But wherever I (!) look, in my part of the universe, a strongly biased and personal view, I see

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 2/17/2017 10:01 AM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > > > On 02/17/2017 01:02 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: >> First of all THANKS. I hope this works out. > ?!? > The thanks was for your effort. The hope that it works out was to say that I hope that you decide to make some more and sell them, which seems

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 02/17/2017 01:35 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jon Elson > I'm most concerned about the reliability of the design rules check > ... > If these checks miss errors, I REALLY don't want to use the package. I'm not quite sure what's covered here, but I have used the

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > I don't remember precisely, but I think you can export libraries from > Eagle in some sort of text form. That was possible with Eagle 5 (and probably earlier), but is no longer necessary since Eagle 6, as the native

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Philipp, On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > On 02/17/2017 01:02 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: >> In short, ways that folks could take your basic board and make it >> possible to do other things with it could increase the value of the >> board enormously. I

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Alan Hightower wrote: > > > Being a long time Eagle user, I'll chime in too. Most responses from > KiCAD advocates miss the mark on the fundamental issue. Sure the > features are converging and I have no doubt KiCAD will catch-up. It has > already surpassed Eagle in many feature areas. But

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > I don't remember precisely, but I think you can export libraries from > Eagle in some sort of text form. If that's true, then it would be SMOP to > write a KiCAD library importer. The key question is whether the

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

> On Feb 17, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > ... >> From: Guy Sotomayor Jr > >> In terms of community supplied libraries, Eagle has those too and I've >> found that by and large they are junk (it's easier/quicker for me to >> create a part on my own >> ...

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

> From: Jon Elson Dave Bridgham and I have been using KiCAD for our stuff, and we're pretty happy with it. Here are a few bits: this is just data, I'm not trying to convince anyone to use it - the points about 'complex tools one is already very used to' are very good ones. > I'm most

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Being a long time Eagle user, I'll chime in too. Most responses from KiCAD advocates miss the mark on the fundamental issue. Sure the features are converging and I have no doubt KiCAD will catch-up. It has already surpassed Eagle in many feature areas. But people who routinely spend dozens of

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

> On Feb 17, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > > [..] >> >>> You might consider KiCAD as an alternative to Eagle. It works pretty >>> darned well. >> Why should I? If you look at the board's size you probably see that it >> cannot be

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 02/17/2017 10:21 AM, Kyle Owen wrote: KiCad has no affiliation to Arduino; in fact, it's being heavily maintained by CERN. I don't suppose you've had a need to being an Eagle guy, but have you tried out KiCad before? With the licensing model Eagle has just moved to, alternatives like KiCad

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 02/17/2017 10:01 AM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: The CPLD you had on the last board, XC9572XL is a bit long in the tooth, perhaps? Would you expect to use that one again, or a newer chip? I will use it again. It was already old when I decided to use it. It has 5V tolerant inputs. It

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > > Why should I? If you look at the board's size you probably see that it > cannot be made using the free version. I own a paid Eagle 7 license. Why > should I throw that away? Started to use Eagle as a child. Have my

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 02/17/2017 01:02 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: First of all THANKS. I hope this works out. ?!? It looks like you have a JTAG connector on there - please keep that. Of course - it's needed for initial programming. The CPLD you had on the last board, XC9572XL is a bit long in the tooth,

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

First of all THANKS. I hope this works out. Some thoughts: It looks like you have a JTAG connector on there - please keep that. The CPLD you had on the last board, XC9572XL is a bit long in the tooth, perhaps? Would you expect to use that one again, or a newer chip? An area with place to

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > The LA36 was an excellent machine. Unlike the LA30, with its atrocious > keyboard > and a print mechanism that jammed about every 20th carriage return. I have to disagree with that. The LA36 is horrible. There is a

Re: Amateur Radio use of Teleprinters (was Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!)

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:30 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > I'm told that Teletype models 15, 19, and 28 were very common here. I've > mostly seen models 15 and 28. I've only once seen a mdoel 32 (ITA2 > five-level version of model 33). I'm helping restore a Model 19 with a friend

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

> On Feb 16, 2017, at 12:40 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Tony Duell wrote: > >> Over here, the only Teletypes we generally see are Model 33s. Even the >> Model >> 35 is very uncommon, > > > In my experience, it's the

Re: Amateur Radio use of Teleprinters (was Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!)

I wrote: > The FCC order authorizing Amateur Radio use of ASCII went into effect in > March of 1980, but at the moment I can't track down a copy of the actual > order. > Found it. "Deregulation of Part 97 of the Rules Regarding Emissions Authorized in the Amateur Service", Third Report and

Amateur Radio use of Teleprinters (was Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!)

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:29 PM, Tony Duell wrote: > I think at one time radio amateurs (at least over here) had to use 5 bit > ITA2 > machines for RTTY. Same here. > It may even be to this day that RTTY implies that, and > that ASCII is classed as 'data'. The FCC

RE: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tony Duell > Sent: 16 February 2017 06:29 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and >

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

>> and 5 bit stuff almost unheard-of. > > > In the US, common for hams, not common for computers. Maybe they were > common for computers in the early 1960s. I think at one time radio amateurs (at least over here) had to use 5 bit ITA2 machines for RTTY. It may even be to this day that RTTY

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Tony Duell wrote: > Over here, the only Teletypes we generally see are Model 33s. Even the > Model > 35 is very uncommon, In my experience, it's the same in the US: the model 33 has always been MUCH more common than the 35. Every model

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

They are really neat looking! Phillipp! http://www.radista.info/tt_units/teleprinter_T-68d.jpg Yes I like the colors! what is the weight! Anyone heading to western US with large suitcase soon? (grin!) Another one our favorite sortta cute teletypes we like here at the SMECC

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Always good to review what the terms of each is. Newcomersmay not understand completely. Same with photo usage and video and music usage - there are various terms of usage for these media types. Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 2/15/2017 7:16 AM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: there are one of the Siemens teletypes that print tape and has a dial on the front from Germany I have seen very compact nice unit used for telex I would love to have. shipping on teletypes from overseas is expensive though. If

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Hi, On 02/15/2017 03:16 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: there are one of the Siemens teletypes that print tape and has a dial on the front from Germany I have seen very compact nice unit used for telex I would love to have. It's the t68d. Exists in very different versions. With paper

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Hi, On 02/15/2017 04:24 PM, Alan Hightower wrote: Perhaps I was unclear. It is not a direct port. It was inspired by your board during a road-trip to VCF-E to make an easier-to-assemble design. Ah, ok. There is obviously no FT245 support. And just about any implementation of logic responding

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Perhaps I was unclear. It is not a direct port. It was inspired by your board during a road-trip to VCF-E to make an easier-to-assemble design. There is obviously no FT245 support. And just about any implementation of logic responding as a KL8E would look very similar. The code is available

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Wed, February 15, 2017 15:12, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > >>> I could swap something for a nice creed machine. >> >> I suspect they're more common in the UK than elsewhere. They were used >> by the Post Office >> for the Telex service, for example. > > I know. Here everything is full with

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 02/15/2017 03:40 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: I have not heard of 40 mil loop here on ttys... generally 20 mil or 60 mil. - At least what I have encountered. Is the 40 mil. standard in Europe? I have not heard about 60mA - at least not in the Telex network. All mechanical 5

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

I have not heard of 40 mil loop here on ttys... generally 20 mil or 60 mil. - At least what I have encountered. Is the 40 mil. standard in Europe? Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 2/14/2017 2:24:15 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: >> I suspect they're more common in the UK than elsewhere. They were used >> by the Post Office >> for the Telex service, for example. > > > I know. Here everything is full with Siemens and Lorenz. > Je aussi voudrais

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

there are one of the Siemens teletypes that print tape and has a dial on the front from Germany I have seen very compact nice unit used for telex I would love to have. shipping on teletypes from overseas is expensive though. If one was local ad inn really nice shape we

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

I could swap something for a nice creed machine. I suspect they're more common in the UK than elsewhere. They were used by the Post Office for the Telex service, for example. I know. Here everything is full with Siemens and Lorenz. Je aussi voudrais avoir une machine de Sagem...! are

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 02/15/2017 12:45 AM, Alan Hightower wrote: Not sure if you are aware, but FYI - Malcolm MacLeod with some involvement from Kyle Owen, Jack Rubin, and others ported your code to a ATF1508 CPLD with a minimal test board. Oh, ah! I looked into their github and the README.md. There is a copy of

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 10:02:55AM -0500, Ethan Dicks wrote: [...] > This is a peripheral. USB OTG doesn't apply, and USB-A would be > "inappropriate". Pretend this is an inkjet printer. What plug would you > expect to find on that? Choose your own facile answer: a) None, printers have

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:50:40AM -0800, W2HX wrote: > Don't laugh I'm not laughing, if anything I'm jealous :) > http://w2hx.com/x/New%20Shack/0224151752b.jpg > > > > From: ben > Sent: Feb 14, 2017 1:54 PM > To: General Discussion:

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > I! > > WANT! > > A! > > CREED!! > > Completely

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Not sure if you are aware, but FYI - Malcolm MacLeod with some involvement from Kyle Owen, Jack Rubin, and others ported your code to a ATF1508 CPLD with a minimal test board. I believe the longer term plan was to make a full featured community project from it, but it's stalled a bit atm. You

RE: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of W2HX [w...@w2hx.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 4:19 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: RE: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 14.02.2017 23:44, Ethan Dicks wrote: I have an older JTAG adapter that has, IIRC, a 2x5 header plug If you get it working with Xilinx SW, then it's good. You'll need an adapter...

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: >> What does it take to post-program the CPLD? > > The board has a programming header. So after soldering it's no problem. Perfect. > You need a JTAG programming adapter that can be used by the Xilinx tools > (impact).

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 14.02.2017 22:36, W2HX wrote: Two or three of my machines can be seen working in the movie Operation Valkyrie with Tom Cruise :-) Interesting! One of my TTYs was in The Good Shepherd Wow :-)

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

What does it take to post-program the CPLD? SMT package aside, if it's possible to install some flying wires going off to a device programmer, which programmers would be able to load the CPLD in the first place? The board has a programming header. So after soldering it's no problem. You

RE: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

>Two or three of my machines can be seen working in the movie Operation >Valkyrie with Tom Cruise :-) Interesting! One of my TTYs was in The Good Shepherd

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > But I don't know yet how I will preprogram the CPLD. What does it take to post-program the CPLD? SMT package aside, if it's possible to install some flying wires going off to a device programmer, which programmers

RE: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

>The 45 baud machines do NOT run on 20mA. They usually run on 40mA :-) 20mA is >the domain of model 28, 32, 33 etc. 14's, 15's 19's, 28s are generally 60mA 120VDC signaling. My 28s have speed select for 60 WPM (45.45 baud), 75 WPM (56.9 Baud) and 100 WPM (74.2 baud). 100 WPM is very fast. It

Current Loops and TTYs (was Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!)

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: >>> PS: Add a 45.5 baud serail port. Control everything with a 5 level >>> TTY. :) >> >> Dirty casual. 20mA current loop or nothing. > > The 45 baud machines do NOT run on 20mA. They usually run on 40mA :-) The M19 is

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 14.02.2017 20:27, Tony Duell wrote: Personally I _do_ care about lead free solder. I won't have it. I don't want it, too. The fact that part of this board comes pre-assembled with that horrible muck means I won't even consider buying one. You will get a fresh board, no problem! ENIG

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

I! WANT! A! CREED!! Completely missing on my side. And.. I always mix up numbers. I have (several of each) Lorenz lo15

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 14.02.2017 22:18, geneb wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, ben wrote: On 2/14/2017 6:27 AM, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: FWIW, Mini-B connectors are on their way out, nor USB OTG compliant. Though agreed that they are flimsy... Why not just a type A or something? Easy, big, and robust. Why not

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 14.02.2017 19:13, W2HX wrote: Personally, i don't care about lead free solder. I care about lead: It's essential! Is there a rohs requirement for small production, non profit, prototyping project? Yes. At least here: You are not allowed to put anything on the market which is not RoHS

RE: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Thanks. I meant that the comment about 45.5 was in jest but I actually have a plan to use a baudot to ascii converter box I have (also converts 60mA current loop to RS232) to allow me to connect my M28 TTYs to my PDP-8 and IMSAI. I think it will be much cooler than a 33 ASR. Of course the tape

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, ben wrote: On 2/14/2017 6:27 AM, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: FWIW, Mini-B connectors are on their way out, nor USB OTG compliant. Though agreed that they are flimsy... Why not just a type A or something? Easy, big, and robust. Why not mini and regular? Ben. PS: Add a 45.5

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On 14.02.2017 20:09, Ethan Dicks wrote: I'm restoring a Model 19 teletype with a friend, so I happen to _need_ a 45.5 baud serial port that spits 5-level Baudot... A model 19? I have some model 28 ASR and KSR (ASCII), and of course 33. And some Lorenz Lo15 which are license built model 15s.

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

> From: Tony Duell > Personally I _do_ care about lead free solder. I won't have it. The > fact that part of this board comes pre-assembled with that horrible > muck means I won't even consider buying one. Gee, Tony, why don't you tell us what you _really_ think! :-)

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 7:50 PM, W2HX wrote: > Don't laugh > > http://w2hx.com/x/New%20Shack/0224151752b.jpg Why should I laugh? They look beautiful. Incidentally, in those pictures of my PDP8/e that I posted the link to last week you can see a the corners of a couple of

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Personally, i don't care about lead free solder. I am quite happy with lead. Is there a rohs requirement for small production, non profit, prototyping project? On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, Tony Duell wrote: Personally I _do_ care about lead free solder. I won't have it. The fact that part of this board

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Don't laugh http://w2hx.com/x/New%20Shack/0224151752b.jpg From: ben Sent: Feb 14, 2017 1:54 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react! On

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 6:13 PM, W2HX wrote: > Personally, i don't care about lead free solder. I am quite happy with lead. > Is > there a rohs requirement for small production, non profit, prototyping > project? Personally I _do_ care about lead free solder. I won't have it.

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

This is a peripheral. USB OTG doesn't apply, and USB-A would be "inappropriate". Pretend this is an inkjet printer. What plug would you expect to find on that? On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, Chris Elmquist wrote: A Centronics-style 36-pin Amphenol. oh, sorry. ("blue-ribbon") A DB25 Howzbout a

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On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:53 PM, ben wrote: > PS: Add a 45.5 baud serail port. Control everything with a 5 level TTY. :) I'm restoring a Model 19 teletype with a friend, so I happen to _need_ a 45.5 baud serial port that spits 5-level Baudot... -ethan

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On 2/14/2017 6:27 AM, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: FWIW, Mini-B connectors are on their way out, nor USB OTG compliant. Though agreed that they are flimsy... Why not just a type A or something? Easy, big, and robust. Why not mini and regular? Ben. PS: Add a 45.5 baud serail port. Control everything

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On Tuesday (02/14/2017 at 10:02AM -0500), Ethan Dicks wrote: > > This is a peripheral. USB OTG doesn't apply, and USB-A would be > "inappropriate". Pretend this is an inkjet printer. What plug would > you expect to find on that? A Centronics-style 36-pin Amphenol. oh, sorry. -- Chris

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On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: >> This is a peripheral. USB OTG doesn't apply, and USB-A would be >> "inappropriate". Pretend this is an inkjet printer. What plug would >> you expect to find on that? > > Haha :-) > It is not an inkject printer!

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What's wrong with USB-B? Too big. Does not properly fit into the DEC board spacing. The rest is just perfect. I consider both Mini and Micro as not mechanically reliable, i.e. I fear that the cable will unplug itself or the mechanical strain will break the leads in the plug (I have too many

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Hi, I'm interested. How much did a board from the previous batch cost? Was different. I first made a poll and sold a batch of boards in my online shop for a certain price. It was somewhere about 105 EUR without VAT. After I received the payment, I made the boards and delivered them (I

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

This is a peripheral. USB OTG doesn't apply, and USB-A would be "inappropriate". Pretend this is an inkjet printer. What plug would you expect to find on that? Haha :-) It is not an inkject printer! But I actually have written a (very limited) HPGL interpreter which controls a Calcomp

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

This is a peripheral. USB OTG doesn't apply, and USB-A would be "inappropriate". Pretend this is an inkjet printer. What plug would you expect to find on that? A type B plug.

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That is a very nice and robust part you linked to. Looks perfect From: Ethan Dicks Sent: Feb 14, 2017 10:03 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > FWIW, Mini-B connectors are on their way out, nor USB OTG compliant. > Though agreed that they are flimsy... Why not just a type A or > something? Easy, big, and robust. This is a peripheral. USB OTG doesn't apply, and

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

FWIW, Mini-B connectors are on their way out, nor USB OTG compliant. Though agreed that they are flimsy... Why not just a type A or something? Easy, big, and robust.

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On 02/13/2017 05:34 PM, W2HX wrote: Thanks for doing this project and I have signed up! Thanks! The list already looks very good. I'll probably make 50 boards this time! Curious why mini usb and why the exclamation points regarding "NOT micro?" Micro is so common. I don't like micro.

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: - the USB connector will be replaced by a mini (NOT micro!!) USB connector. What's wrong with USB-B? I consider both Mini and Micro as not mechanically reliable, i.e. I fear that the cable will unplug itself or the mechanical strain will break

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Hi Philipp I'm interested. How much did a board from the previous batch cost? And will that be any indication of what the new boards price? Thank you, Pontus On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 04:00:26PM +0100, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > Hi folks, > > it has taken a while but I'm now actively planning

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On 13 February 2017 at 19:10, Fred Cisin wrote: > THAT is apparently why USB-C was developed. it is symmetrical. Well, it's not _only_ that, but it's part of it. Apple led the way with its symmetrical Lightning connector:

RE: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017, W2HX wrote: Thanks for doing this project and I have signed up! Curious why mini usb and why the exclamation points regarding "NOT micro?" Micro is so common. I have tons of usb-micro cables for all my devices. I don’t think I've seen a device made in the last several

Re: New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:34 AM, W2HX wrote: > Thanks for doing this project and I have signed up! Me too. > Curious why mini usb and why the exclamation points regarding "NOT micro? > " Micro is so common. I have tons of usb-micro cables for all my devices. I > don’t > think

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