Has anyone gotten the old SIMH VAX-11/730 emulator to boot?

Hi, All, I'm fiddling with my 11/725 and as part of that, I'm prepping possible system images to deploy using the 10-year-old 11/730 emulator that's now part of SIMH. I'm trying to get the original (v3.8) version working because of the numerous changes to how simh 4.0 works now. I'm working

Re: Looking for documentation for VAX-11/730 ENKCC Diagnostic

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 9:21 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk > wrote: > Sure. Works for me. There are, in all, likely well over 1000 fiche... > 3) I have several sets. Which of them would you want to scan? > > On 11/13/2019 12:02 AM, Josh Dersch wrote: >> >> If you're willing to send them out,

Re: Looking for documentation for VAX-11/730 ENKCC Diagnostic

Sure. Works for me. There are, in all, likely well over 1000 fiche, maybe even more than 2000. Many fiche have multiple documents on them (e.g. module documents), some have more than one fiche to a document (e.g. diagnostic listings). All told, in their boxes and envelopes, 25lbs or more, so

Re: Looking for documentation for VAX-11/730 ENKCC Diagnostic

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 12:18 PM Jay Jaeger wrote: > Fiche - I have no ready way to scan them. Hundreds (in several > different DEC groupings). Not likely anytime soon. > If you're willing to send them out, the LCM would be happy to scan them and get the scans off to Al, etc. Thanks again,

Re: Looking for documentation for VAX-11/730 ENKCC Diagnostic

e Fiche I have for ENKCC version 1.2 (Diagnostic Listing) > dated September 1982 - VAX 11/730 MCT MICRO > > Test 33:  Moving Inversion Test on Array (M8728 ARRAY or M8391 MCT > Module) > > Error 8: > > "Moving Inversion failed on descending path with

Re: Looking for documentation for VAX-11/730 ENKCC Diagnostic

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 8:40 AM Jay Jaeger wrote: > According to the Fiche I have for ENKCC version 1.2 (Diagnostic Listing) > dated September 1982 - VAX 11/730 MCT MICRO > > Test 33: Moving Inversion Test on Array (M8728 ARRAY or M8391 MCT Module) > > Error 8: > >

Re: Looking for documentation for VAX-11/730 ENKCC Diagnostic

According to the Fiche I have for ENKCC version 1.2 (Diagnostic Listing) dated September 1982 - VAX 11/730 MCT MICRO Test 33: Moving Inversion Test on Array (M8728 ARRAY or M8391 MCT Module) Error 8: "Moving Inversion failed on descending path with background of 0's Bit being to

Looking for documentation for VAX-11/730 ENKCC Diagnostic

Hi all -- The VAX-11/730 we have running here at the museum has developed a fault that occurs only sporadically, usually days apart. Running the complete diagnostic suite for the better part of a week reveals this: SECT TST ERR EXP REC OTHERMSKMODULE ENKCC 33 08 00FF

Re: VAX-11/730 and Emulex UC17 woes

OVL at 298. This looks like a map register for an 11/750 (as documented > in the UC17 manual as being at F30800/F30804) and I wondered if it should be > similar to the value for the 11/730 (F26800/F26804). > > So I changed the instruction at 298 to: > > MOVL #8002,@#F

RE: VAX-11/730 and Emulex UC17 woes

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mike Ross > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:15 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: VAX-11/730 and Emulex UC17 woes &

Re: VAX-11/730 and Emulex UC17 woes

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Josh Dersch wrote: > Interesting, the UC17 has the same firmware version (G143R) on the label of > the EPROM. I wonder if the contents are identical. Could you send me a dump > of your ROM so I can compare? > >> >> I dumped the

RE: VAX-11/730 and Emulex UC17 woes

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Glen Slick > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:48 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: VAX-11/730 and Emulex UC17

Re: VAX-11/730 and Emulex UC17 woes

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Josh Dersch <jo...@livingcomputermuseum.org> wrote: > Hi all -- > > I'm working on restoring a VAX-11/730 at the museum and things have been > going pretty well thus far. I've been bootstrapping the console and > diagnostics from simula

Re: VAX-11/730 and Emulex UC17 woes

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Josh Dersch <jo...@livingcomputermuseum.org> wrote: > Hi all -- > > I'm working on restoring a VAX-11/730 at the museum and things have been > going pretty well thus far. I've been bootstrapping the console and > diagnostics from simula

VAX-11/730 and Emulex UC17 woes

Hi all -- I'm working on restoring a VAX-11/730 at the museum and things have been going pretty well thus far. I've been bootstrapping the console and diagnostics from simulated TU58 (images from: https://github.com/NF6X/VAX-11-730-Console-v57). All of the TU58-based diagnostics are passing

Re: Dumping Images of my VAX-11/730's Drives?

Well, I've had partial success in imaging the disks of my VAX-11/730. The RL02 packs transferred just fine to a VM running an older Linux distribution with DECnet support, but the R80 drive copy aborted with a parity error. Details and pictures are on my blog: http://www.nf6x.net/2016/03

Re: Dumping Images of my VAX-11/730's Drives?

> > > If you get TCP/IP networking like Multinet (ie not like CMUIP) running, you > > should be able to use FTP, rcp or maybe even TFTP to move a VMS BACKUP save > > set to another system. The snag is you need enough scratch space to create > > the saveset on the 11/730 before you transfer it. >

Re: Dumping Images of my VAX-11/730's Drives?

that either of those is viable on a VAX-11/730. You can't easily hook up a second disk and I'm almost certain that a network boot is not possible. I don't think that you could connect a VAX-11/730 to a CI-cluster, and even if you could, you are not likely to have the kit available. If you have a tape

Re: Dumping Images of my VAX-11/730's Drives?

> On Mar 8, 2016, at 15:21, Peter Coghlan wrote: > > If you get TCP/IP networking like Multinet (ie not like CMUIP) running, you > should be able to use FTP, rcp or maybe even TFTP to move a VMS BACKUP saveset > to another system. The snag is you need enough scratch

Re: Dumping Images of my VAX-11/730's Drives?

> > I want to get raw images of the system's drives off the machine and onto my > modern systems. I can think of several approaches, and still more approaches > have already been suggested in that VCF thread. I have a number of questions, > and I'm also keeping my eyes open for hardware that might

Dumping Images of my VAX-11/730's Drives?

This thread is a parallel discussion to a VCF thread that I started last night: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?51653-Dumping-Images-of-my-VAX-11-730-s-Drives With today being cold and rainy, it seems like a good excuse to turn on my VAX-11/730. I can boot either VMS 5.2 off the RL02

Re: VAX-11/730 success!

> On Feb 26, 2016, at 01:45, Mike Ross wrote: > > Thanks to those who helped and advised; I discovered a problematic pin > on the TU58 10-pin DIP connector. With this fixed, TU58EM worked > correctly and the console code loaded. The CPU passes diags as far as > the RL02

VAX-11/730 success!

Thanks to those who helped and advised; I discovered a problematic pin on the TU58 10-pin DIP connector. With this fixed, TU58EM worked correctly and the console code loaded. The CPU passes diags as far as the RL02 test; not surprising as there's no RL controller or drive - or the special diag

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

On 2/24/2016 1:11 PM, Mike Ross wrote: Why are you using MRSP mode (-m switch)? Do you know that is absolutely required? For VAX-11/730 console yes it is absolutely required as far as I know; everything I've read about people using emulation there says that it is. Mike Yes it appears

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

isplays: >> >> Continue after 2 INIT flags. online! >> >> And VAX shows the now-familiar ?27 DEVICE ERROR... >> >> Which looks a HELL of a lot like how tu58em is ending. So I don't >> think the problem is with tu58em... >> >> Is there anything I should be

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

On 2/24/2016 3:43 AM, Mike Ross wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Mike Ross wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote: Actually I do have a Mac within easy range of

Re: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

On 2/24/2016 10:59 AM, Eric Smith wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:52 PM, jwsmobile wrote: For serial I use a Saleae 8 bit analyzer. [...] You do have to use a level shifter with the thing because it is designed for 3.3v logic and needs to be adjusted accordingly. The

Re: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:52 PM, jwsmobile wrote: > For serial I use a Saleae 8 bit analyzer. [...] > You do have to use a level shifter with the thing because it is designed for > 3.3v logic and needs to be adjusted accordingly. The Saleae Logic Pro 16 (and probably the Logic

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Mike Ross wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: >> >>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote: >>> Actually I do have a Mac within easy range of the 730. Could you do me >>> a

Re: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

On 2/23/2016 7:11 PM, Curious Marc wrote: I was wondering if I should add a 4952 to my HP collection. It's tempting, these are cute machines. But except if I am using synchronous RS232, I was not sure what I would getting that a laptop with a good terminal emulator and a serial port would

RE: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

Marc wrote I was not sure what I would getting that a laptop with a good terminal emulator and a serial port would give me. Can you convince me otherwise? What do you guys use it for? - Perhaps there are terminal emulators out there that can do the following, but I'm not

Re: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

I was wondering if I should add a 4952 to my HP collection. It's tempting, these are cute machines. But except if I am using synchronous RS232, I was not sure what I would getting that a laptop with a good terminal emulator and a serial port would give me. Can you convince me otherwise? What do

RE: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

I had written... > Just my 2 millidollars worth... To which Tony replied -- Don't you mean 20 millidollars? -- I'd have intended to say 2 centidollars... but if I say I meant 20 millidollars then I can claim it was merely a typo and I dropped the 0 *cough* J

RE: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

> > I've always eyed the 4952... being as my penchant is HP and much of my test > equipment is same-vintage HP gear (I'll give a vote for the 1631D logic > analyzer, combo LA and digital scope - the scope is sorta poor, but handy - > the LA is great for what I work on). I would love to find the

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > >> On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote: >> Actually I do have a Mac within easy range of the 730. Could you do me >> a favour and throw a prebuilt OSX binary somewhere I can grab it? I >> have

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > >> On Feb 22, 2016, at 16:12 , Mike Ross wrote: >> >> Mark am I missing something or is there no make option for Linux in your >> tweaked tu58em? > > I think you simply type "make" to build it on a

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

> On Feb 22, 2016, at 16:12 , Mike Ross wrote: > > Mark am I missing something or is there no make option for Linux in your > tweaked tu58em? I think you simply type "make" to build it on a unix-like system (e.g., Linux). -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

Mark am I missing something or is there no make option for Linux in your tweaked tu58em? Mike On Feb 23, 2016 4:28 AM, "Mark J. Blair" wrote: > > > On Feb 22, 2016, at 02:50, tony duell wrote: > > > > The pinouts are the same, the printset of course

RE: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

I've always eyed the 4952... being as my penchant is HP and much of my test equipment is same-vintage HP gear (I'll give a vote for the 1631D logic analyzer, combo LA and digital scope - the scope is sorta poor, but handy - the LA is great for what I work on). However, I spent a significant

Re: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > The bigger picture: > > https://twitter.com/nf6x/status/701796809413304320 Nice! We had a couple 4951s set up at all times, mostly for sync debugging of our own products, but occasionally, we stuck them between two machines

Re: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

The bigger picture: https://twitter.com/nf6x/status/701796809413304320 -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

> On Feb 22, 2016, at 07:35, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: >> When I was debugging the connection between my VAX and tu58em on my Mac, I >> ended up buying an old serial protocol analyzer. Notably, I

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

> On Feb 22, 2016, at 02:50, tony duell wrote: > > The pinouts are the same, the printset of course gives details of the latter. > It's > RS232 levels, TxD, RxD, Ground, and it is 38400 baud. I didn't get around to examining the wiring in my VAX last night, but I

Serial analyzers (was Re: VAX 11/730 quickie)

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > When I was debugging the connection between my VAX and tu58em on my Mac, I > ended up buying an old serial protocol analyzer. Notably, I specifically > avoided one with the same type of tape drive; I got one with a nice,

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

> On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote: > Actually I do have a Mac within easy range of the 730. Could you do me > a favour and throw a prebuilt OSX binary somewhere I can grab it? I > have flaky internet in the workshop and this Mac isn't set up with > Xcode or any

RE: VAX 11/730 quickie

> > On Feb 21, 2016, at 14:41 , Mike Ross wrote: > > Thanks for that. Are you able to provide confirmed working details & > > pinouts for the cable? IIRC it was just three wire; Rx/Tx/Gnd? Would > > help if I could have confirmed working setup there. > > I'll need to dig

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

(replies inline) On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 9:27 AM, tony duell wrote: > >> Well I haven't figured out exactly what the problem was but I'm >> embarrassed to report it was indeed serial comms finger trouble. I > > I have found that those little in-line RS232 testers with 7

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

issues and was unusable on 11/730 but is now patched and >> working correctly... watch this space! > > As a recap, I made a fork of tu58em which adds -x/--vax flags to work around > a timing issue that I encountered when using it with my VAX-11/730: > > https://github.com/NF6

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

On 2/20/2016 7:03 PM, Mike Ross wrote: I might just try all switches *closed* on the basis that maybe it was wired wrong but... no doesn't make sense; the system would have been operational when decommissioned; the switch settings as I received it must be valid... Make sure the switches are

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 8:23 AM, tony duell wrote: > > [...] > >> red lights. The baud rate switches are set for 4800 - the default. > > Eh? There is no way to set it for 4800 baud (the installation manual, > printset, and my tests all agree on what baud rates are

RE: VAX 11/730 quickie

[...] > red lights. The baud rate switches are set for 4800 - the default. Eh? There is no way to set it for 4800 baud (the installation manual, printset, and my tests all agree on what baud rates are available). How do you have the switches set? Note that if switch 2 (of the DIP switch at

RE: VAX 11/730 quickie

> > Of course I don't know mine works, I need to get a working TU58 tape... Perhaps I should have been a bit clearer, it does pass the console POST, then gives read errors on both drives (as there is no tape in them), then gives the ROM> prompt. So mine is getting further than yours, but until I

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 1:56 AM, tony duell wrote: >> >> See row of red LEDs on M8391? On power-up the leftmost LED lights and >> goes out. Then the rightmost two LEDs light and stay on... > > I can't remember exactly what mine does, but I do remember 2 LEDs at one > end

RE: VAX 11/730 quickie

> > See row of red LEDs on M8391? On power-up the leftmost LED lights and > goes out. Then the rightmost two LEDs light and stay on... I can't remember exactly what mine does, but I do remember 2 LEDs at one end being on when it settles down. So I think yours is probably OK. Of course I don't

RE: VAX 11/730 quickie

> Just started working on mine - been a back-burnered project for a long > time. Unfortunately all the cables were cut when it was dismantled; I > was lucky to grab just the CPU. I had to re-fit all the cables on mine (a painful job), but at least I had them all, uncut. > Got it powered up ok -

Re: VAX 11/730 quickie

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Mike Ross wrote: > Just started working on mine - been a back-burnered project for a long > time. Unfortunately all the cables were cut when it was dismantled; I > was lucky to grab just the CPU. > > Got it powered up ok - no drama there. I

Re: UNIBUS extension card/cable sets Was: Looking for info on National Semiconductor RAM board (VAX 11/730)

FYI, in my 750, the UNIBUS expansion has a L0010 in the main cabinet and a M9014 in the expansion cabinet. I didn't note the details of the cable(s) between the two when I did the inventory of my system. On another topic, we had discussed me going through my B1000 stuff and Burroughs contacts

Re: UNIBUS extension card/cable sets Was: Looking for info on National Semiconductor RAM board (VAX 11/730)

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:09:38AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: I assume the M9014/M9015 are a pair, one used at the start of the cable, and one at the end? Interesting. I can't think of a reason why the two ends would need to be different, but otherwise why do both exist? I've seen M9014s only

Re: UNIBUS extension card/cable sets Was: Looking for info on National Semiconductor RAM board (VAX 11/730)

On 6/22/15 8:51 AM, Alan Perry wrote: On another topic, we had discussed me going through my B1000 stuff and Burroughs contacts to assist the buyer of that system that you facilitated. Unfortunately, all that I have come up with are dead ends. I found additional material, but is all pretty

UNIBUS extension card/cable sets Was: Looking for info on National Semiconductor RAM board (VAX 11/730)

From: tony duell a 'Unibus Out', you can plug a Unibus cable in there to link to an expansion box. The official way involved special dual-height cards at each end with 3 40-way Berg-type cables linking them. So I'm trying to look into this (BC11 cables being unobtainium these

RE: UNIBUS extension card/cable sets Was: Looking for info on National Semiconductor RAM board (VAX 11/730)

So I'm trying to look into this (BC11 cables being unobtainium these days, at least at prices which are less their weight in gold). Are they really that rare? I've got a small box of them here. I assume the M9014/M9015 are a pair, one used at the start of the cable, and one at the end? If

Re: Looking for info on National Semiconductor RAM board (VAX 11/730)

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 10:58 AM, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: I am looking for any information on a National Semiconductor RAM board that I think goes in a VAX 11/730. Pressing the button turns off the yellow LED and completely disables the board. Quite why you'd want

RE: Looking for info on National Semiconductor RAM board (VAX 11/730)

Pressing the button turns off the yellow LED and completely disables the board. Quite why you'd want to do this I do not know... The reason you'd want a button to disable the board is when running diagnostics, you can remove all the non-DEC memory without physically removing it.

Re: Looking for info on National Semiconductor RAM board (VAX 11/730)

On Jun 20, 2015, at 07:58, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: Oh, and it mentions a 'spare RAM chip in a socket on the board'. All RAM on my board is, indeed, socketed. If this is just an unused chip to substitute if one fails then I think I've seen it all... I thought of

Looking for info on National Semiconductor RAM board (VAX 11/730)

I am looking for any information on a National Semiconductor RAM board that I think goes in a VAX 11/730. My 11/730 (which admittedly I have not run) has 2 DEC MS730 boards and 2 of these NatSemi boards, I found another one while unpacking stuff today. It's a hex height DEC-type board

RE: Looking for info on National Semiconductor RAM board (VAX 11/730)

[Argh! Following up my own post :-(] I am looking for any information on a National Semiconductor RAM board that I think goes in a VAX 11/730. My 11/730 (which admittedly I have not run) has 2 DEC MS730 boards and 2 of these NatSemi boards, I found another one while unpacking stuff today

RE: Looking for info on National Semiconductor RAM board (VAX 11/730)

I thought of throwing that idea out there, but having lived through the great RAM famine the thought of a spare RAM chip seemed kind of silly. Incidentally, the RAMs are all soldered on my Camintonn boards. All the RAMs (but not the buffers) on the NatSemi boards are in sockets. And I

Re: VAX 11/730

If you can find one, I'll be happy to help out with tape images and so forth for your bringup! On Jun 15, 2015, at 08:32, emanuel stiebler e...@e-bbes.com wrote: As usual, a long shot, but anybody in the list like to get rid of one? Preferably Colorado ;-)

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: How do I respond to tape mount requests on the same console where I'm running BACKUP? When I get the request asking whether to create a new tape volume, it doesn't seem to respond to terminal input. First, initialize all the tapes you might need using

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

On Jun 15, 2015, at 09:50 , Richard Loken richar...@admin.athabascau.ca wrote: You need to read a little tome entitled Mastering VMS by David W. Byron or maybe The VMS User's Manual that came with VAX/VMS Version 5. I'll look for those. Thanks! ANd the /NOASSIST switch worked for me. I

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the BACKUP program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS equivalent to the way a task can be suspended in UNIX with ^Z? There are several: $ submit /queue=sys$batch /noprint

RE: VAX 11/730

And I would like to find one in the UK -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J. Blair Sent: 15 June 2015 16:34 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: VAX 11/730 If you can find one, I'll be happy

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

Thanks! I'll look up all of those commands to understand them better. ^Y looks familiar. I think this is the second time I have learned about it. :) On Jun 13, 2015, at 18:40, Jerry Weiss j...@ieee.org wrote: If you are running backup and it is asking for additional tapes, then I

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

I'm still fumbling around with the multi-tape backup of the R80 drive and haven't quite gotten it working yet. But I've made some other good progress! That RL02 pack labeled VMS53RL02SYS does contain a working VMS 5.3 installation. I backed it up to tape while booted from the R80, then did a

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

On Jun 14, 2015, at 02:36, Peter Coghlan cct...@beyondthepale.ie wrote: Another way is to log on a second time using a terminal other than the console, issue reply/enable and then reply to the messages you receive there. I'll eventually hook up more serial lines, but at the moment the

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

On 2015-06-14 19:25, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Jun 14, 2015, at 10:01, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: If the connector on the DELUA board is a normal Berg-type header (and I think it is) then maybe you could use a piece of (twist-n-flat?) ribbon cable to make an extension that

RE: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

Ok, next puzzle is figuring out how to route the cable between the DELUA and the bulkhead panel. I removed it because it kept getting tangled when rolling the CPU chassis in and out. The cable clamps under the cabinet deal with flat cables much better than round ones, so I'll need to

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

On Jun 14, 2015, at 10:01, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: If the connector on the DELUA board is a normal Berg-type header (and I think it is) then maybe you could use a piece of (twist-n-flat?) ribbon cable to make an extension that could be routed through the cable pan

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

If you are running backup and it is asking for additional tapes, then I believe you can do the following ^Y $spawn $ $reply/enable=all initialize additional tapes as needed (prior tape should have rewound…) mount tape $reply/to=MESSAGEID $exit $continue Jerry Weiss WB9MRI

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the BACKUP program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS equivalent to the way a task can be suspended in UNIX with ^Z? I'm no expert, but I think you can

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

Thanks! I will try that out. On Jun 13, 2015, at 18:01, Glen Slick glen.sl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the BACKUP program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

Thanks! I'll look up all of those commands to understand them better. ^Y looks familiar. I think this is the second time I have learned about it. :) On Jun 13, 2015, at 18:40, Jerry Weiss j...@ieee.org wrote: If you are running backup and it is asking for additional tapes, then I believe

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

I'm having trouble with the password reset procedure (but will resolve it by the end of this message). When I run AUTHORIZE, I get this: [snip] $ set noon set noon $ spawn /nowait sys$system:startup.com spawn /nowait sys$system:startup.com %DCL-S-SPAWNED, process SYSTEM_1 spawned $

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

I'm having trouble with the password reset procedure (but will resolve it by the end of this message). When I run AUTHORIZE, I get this: $ run authorize run authorize %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SECURESHRP -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file PIKE$DQA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SECURESHRP.EXE;2

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

On Jun 13, 2015, at 14:29, Peter Coghlan cct...@beyondthepale.ie wrote: Did I say that? I meant: $ spawn /nowait @sys$system:startup.com (sorry) Aha! Now I understand. Ok, I have the SYSTEM password reset, and the license pak installed. Next task is to perform backups. First attempt

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

Using a version 58 console tape image provided to me by one list member, and massaged into a usable state by another list member, I just booted OpenVMS 7.3 off the R80 drive on my VAX-11/730 for the first time since buying the machine. Woohoo! Excellent! For some reason, I was unable

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

I don't remember exactly what I have, but the binders that came with my system might include an R80 manual (to be scanned, of course!). -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! Now about VMS distros

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Jun 12, 2015, at 08:48, Richard Loken richar...@admin.athabascau.ca wrote: Gday Mark, it has been a long time since Rodondo Beach. Great to hear from you again! Still have those ARS33 teletypes? I must say, when I decided I needed to be an

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! Now about VMS distros

it had been printed on a Teletype Model 35. Our VAX 8600 came with VAX/VMS version 4.X - this leads me to suggest that you do not want a version contemporary to the VAX-11/730 (probably v2 or 3). We ran VAX/VMS version 5.5-1 for many many years on our massive great VAX 8820, VAX 4000 model

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

On Jun 12, 2015, at 07:57, Antonio Carlini arcarl...@iee.org wrote: Doesn't control-P on the console halt the machine on a VAX-11/730? It brings up the console prompt, but the (H)alt command just prints the PC rather than triggering a halt on the 725/730. Next time I work on the system

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! Now about VMS distros

on it and the documentation had that quaint early Digital quality that looked like it had been printed on a Teletype Model 35. Our VAX 8600 came with VAX/VMS version 4.X - this leads me to suggest that you do not want a version contemporary to the VAX-11/730 (probably v2 or 3). We ran VAX/VMS version 5.5-1

Re: First VAX-11/730 VMS Boot! (was: Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check)

On Jun 12, 2015, at 04:01, Peter Coghlan cct...@beyondthepale.ie wrote: If the machine just sits there indefinately after loading the MSCP disk server, you probably don't have enough cluster votes to proceed and the best thing to do is perform a conversational boot which usually involves

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

On 06/07/2015 10:02 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: And... All diagnostics pass! Woohoo! Great to hear, well done Mark! I hope one of these days soon I'll join you - my 730 was able to boot the last time I powered it up in the early 90s, but I have no idea what I'll find when I finally amass the

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: I finally got the excellent AK6DN tu58em emulator working as my VAX-11/730's console drive, as discussed on VCF. Could you throw me a link to that please? I have a 730 I'm going to have to have a hack at at some point... Mike

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

On Jun 8, 2015, at 07:05, Mike Ross tmfdm...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: I finally got the excellent AK6DN tu58em emulator working as my VAX-11/730's console drive, as discussed on VCF. Could you throw me a link to that please? I

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

Mark J. Blair wrote: Since I can't seem to boot up my R80 or my other RL02 pack (labeled VMS53RL02SYS on top) yet, I've been trying to bring up the VMS 5.3 Standalone Backup tape images I found there. No luck so far. I have never run a VMS Standalone Backup environment before, but I am

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

The issue that I'm having at the moment is that when I try to boot from either that RL02 pack or the R80, VMB.EXE reports %BOOT-F-Unable to locate BOOT file. I don't know yet whether there's something not-right about the contents of the hard drives, or I need to configure something (?) so

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

On 2015-06-09 23:54, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Jun 9, 2015, at 14:43 , Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se wrote: Yes, R5 is more or less used the same on all VAXen, since this is used by VMB, which almost all VAXen use in one form or another. Thank you very much for the R5 details! I presume

VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

I finally got the excellent AK6DN tu58em emulator working as my VAX-11/730's console drive, as discussed on VCF. The trouble appears to have been a simple timing issue: tu58em includes some time delays which run afoul of the 730 console's very aggressive timeout checking. After patching

Re: VAX-11/730 %BOOT-F-Unexpected Machine Check

A couple of folks have clued me in to my mistake: I should have been trying to boot DQ0/1 instead of DU0/1. Now I'm getting disk activity followed by %BOOT-F-Unable to locate BOOT file, which is better! I found 725/730 diagnostics on another tape image, so I'll try running those next. Yay!

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