[cdesktopenv-devel] CDE package for Debian

2018-04-12 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, I was advised to share a project of mine with this mailing list, as people may find it helpful and have things to add. I am normally opposed to having my private email be available to the public, but I will make an exception in this case. I have been working on a CDE package for Debian a

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE package for Debian

2018-04-23 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Not quite sure why my license file turned into a binary, take this one instead. Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On April 23, 2018 4:38 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > Hi all, > > I actually sent out this email about a week ago, but accident

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE package for Debian

2018-04-23 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
; ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On April 23, 2018 4:38 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I actually sent out this email about a week ago, but accidentally sent it to >> only one person, I do have some small additions to my progress tho

[cdesktopenv-devel] Removing support for discontinued Unixes

2018-04-23 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, I wanted to run this by the community to get everyone's thoughts on it before commits start being made;I think that discontinued unixes should start being removed from the code to decrease bloat, this would include UXP, OSF1 and UnixWare, UXP hasn't been updated since 1999, OSF1 was disc

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE package for Debian

2018-04-23 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Sorry about all these email, but here is a quick patch for some stuff I forgot. Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On April 23, 2018 8:05 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > For some reason the csh to sh commit part of my previous commit was left out, &g

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove irix support

2018-04-26 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
This patch should gut the code of irix support, I say should and not will because unfortunately, the developers of CDE made very little distinction between the hardware (MIPS), the operating system (irix) and the company (silicon graphics) and decided to call them all SGI. This made sense back t

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove BSDi support

2018-04-26 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
BSDi was a proprietary flavor of BSD that has it's support discontinued in the early 2000s, anyone who was using it in a professional sense is now using regular freebsd or the various other flavors, as they are almost binary compatible. Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 14249a892d1b04d57afa60

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove UXP/DS support

2018-04-26 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
I broke a script in this commit, here is the patch to fix it, also deleted all of the trailing whitespace in the file. Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On April 26, 2018 1:01 AM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > This patch guts all code that allowed UXP

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove UXP/DS support

2018-04-26 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
of the trailing whitespace in the file. > > Thank you for your time, > -Chase > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On April 26, 2018 1:01 AM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel > wrote: > >> This patch guts all code that allowed UXP/DS support, the platform hasn't >&

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Ultrix support

2018-04-26 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
This patch removes support for Digital's (now HP's) Ultrix, like everyone else, they seem to have no intentions of making the platform open source, and it was replaced by OSF1/Tru64 Unix, which I am also planning to remove, so should therefore be removed from the code. Thank you for your time,

[cdesktopenv-devel] Releasing my package files

2018-04-26 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, This has been long overdue, but I am releasing my packaging files for a CDE package, which can be found here: https://gitlab.com/TheSelousScout/cde-desktop (I don't really like using sourceforge due to their non-free JS, adware and geo blocking policies, you can read more about them here

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove sony news code

2018-04-27 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
There are some fond aliases that may not be sony news os related, but other than that this code should be good to go. Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom d9273ead450acd7d0a273e81984e46251e3b3f50 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 00:07:18 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] Remove so

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove bsdi support episode II: Attack of the git clones

2018-05-12 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, Should work this time around, I think It wasn't working due to my branch being based on master by mistake Also, my compiler keeps generating this crap, so heres a commit that ignores it, I think it needs to be put into make clean, but I am just putting it into ignore for now. Thank you

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] minor cleanups

2018-05-13 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Here are two patches, one gets rid of a lintian warning thrown due to a deprecated key being present in the desktop entry. The other fixes the address on sgml-mode.el and deletes dt-toolbox Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 5b4a4f6c354ba68795d513ee44fb41613f954e13 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From

[cdesktopenv-devel] Update on packaging situation

2018-05-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, If any of you were curious about the status of the debian package, I must unfortunately report that development has temporarily halted. It isn't that I have lost interest or anything, the problem is that, in short, debian needs to be able to install the package to customizable directori

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Update on packaging situation

2018-05-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
me, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 24, 2018 7:25 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: > ‎2018 in software, "CDE ported to Minix". > > What a fabulous headline that would be. =) > > You've piqued my curiosity; what version of Minix are we talking here? > From: Chase

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Use posix macros for linux

2018-05-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
> undefined reference to`_pututline' > > collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status > > Makefile:784: recipe for target 'dtcodegen' failed > > make[5]: *** [dtcodegen] Error 1 > > You might have missed something in libDtTerm... > > -jon > >

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Update on packaging situation

2018-05-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Oh wait, I thought you meant like this week and next week simultaneously, my brain isnt working today lol. Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 24, 2018 7:34 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > 3.4.0rc6, I was originally going to use 3.3.0, however

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove ultrix support

2018-05-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Self explanatory Thank you for your time, -Chase-- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove ultrix support

2018-05-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
With the patch this time, jeez I think that's my queue to go to bed lol... Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 24, 2018 7:45 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > Self explanatory > > Thank you for your time

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Broken BSD and Solaris systems

2018-05-25 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
I very much hope that none of these problems were my own doing, if so, I deeply apologize. ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 25, 2018 11:36 AM, Ulrich Wilkens wrote: > ​​ > > Hello, > > at the moment all BSD and Solaris platforms are broken. Even so

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] make dinstallCDE functional on linux and BSD

2018-05-25 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Probably not the best time to submit a patch, but I've been holding on to this for a while, I will probably be making use of this script in the debian package. Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 6a34644c4bb1d27b39fc52baadfdf36c5000a729 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Fri, 25 May 2018

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] make dinstallCDE functional on linux and BSD

2018-05-25 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
major issue is that /var/dt and /etc/dt are not installed. ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 25, 2018 2:02 PM, Jon Trulson wrote: > ​​ > > On 05/25/2018 12:54 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > > > Probably not the best time

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Let's hold off on testing for a bit, master appears to be broken

2018-05-25 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
How did this happen? Also, strangely enough, master is completely fine on my system. I am using ubuntu 18.04 ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 25, 2018 3:55 PM, Jon Trulson wrote: > ​​ > > So, I'm trying to build master, completely virgin, and it cr

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Broken BSD and Solaris systems

2018-05-25 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
am a bit suspicious of any site that makes me make an account.) ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 25, 2018 4:38 PM, Ulrich Wilkens wrote: > ​​ > > On 05/25/18 20:02, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > > > I very much hope

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Broken BSD and Solaris systems

2018-05-25 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
I would be wary if you are running make install, I used to run that on my debian package and found that a few files were being installed on root. ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 25, 2018 5:44 PM, Ulrich Wilkens wrote: > ​​ > > On 05/25/18 20:56, Ma

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Update on packaging situation

2018-05-25 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
r and this would need some time. > > And as always it would need intensive testing. > > Best Regards, Ulrich > > > CDE will not be runnable in this directory however, but this should be > > > > suitable for packaging. > > > > -jon > > > >

[cdesktopenv-devel] Validity of historical/openbugs

2018-05-26 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, A few people were wondering how non-programmers could help out the project, I pondered this question for a while, and believe I have a good answer. There is a list of openbugs in historical that was current as of 2.1.30, but not anymore. If someone could go through the bug list and find

[cdesktopenv-devel] Name of debian package

2018-05-26 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, I have been thinking about how to name the debian package, I didn't want to spend too much time on this as it would prevent me from actually getting to make the package, so I am going to consult you guys. The package name "cde" is already taken by another programs, so this leaves it betw

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Name of debian package

2018-05-26 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
26, 2018 12:12 PM, Henry Bonath wrote: > why not "cdesktopenv" ? > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 1:10 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I have been thinking about how to name the debian package, I didn't want to >> spend t

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Add keywords to cde desktop entry

2018-05-26 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Debian wants keywords, so we give it keyword. Also, could we add an icon? Does it need to be xpm? Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 46f071c30fadc34986b16a26c00bdd05c967371c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 15:28:08 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] cde.desktop:Add keywords to d

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Fix files not registering as scripts

2018-05-27 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Self explanatory Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom f15d076cb522b0f622b9e5dc1ce04b60fdfdb5ae Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 10:58:08 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] fix files not registering as scripts --- cde/programs/dtimsstart/0020.dtims.src | 2 +- cde/programs/

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Add CDE logo to cde.desktop

2018-05-27 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
New patch Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 5245334d57428140aa159c5254c3d9666cabf66a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 11:11:02 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 2/2] Add CDE logoto cde.desktop --- cde/contrib/desktopentry/cde.desktop | 2 +- cde/databases/CDE-ICONS.udb

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Add CDE logo to cde.desktop

2018-05-27 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
: > ​​ > > On Sun, 27 May 2018, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > > > New patch > > Wouldn't the existing /usr/dt/appconfig/icons/C/Dtlogo.pm work instead of the > PNG file? > > The spec[1] says XPM files are accepted. > > == > > +programs/icons/

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Add CDE logo to cde.desktop

2018-05-29 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
gt; > On 05/27/2018 12:58 PM, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 May 2018, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > > > > > Jon suggested we use a png, but I think that if it is accepting of xpms, > > > we should use that one to save space, I will post an

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Add CDE logo to cde.desktop

2018-05-29 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
x27;ve applied this patch to cde-next-3 (use the existing .pm). We'll > > deal with how it's actually used at some future date. > > -jon > > On 05/27/2018 12:17 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > > > Jon suggested we use a png, but I think that if it i

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Fixes for OpenBSD

2018-06-01 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
While you are add it, can you update the Linux wiki entry to indicate that /var/spool/calendar needs to be created, not /usr/spool/calendar and the netbsd wiki needs the custom Xp patch removed, this is no longer necessary. Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Jun

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Minix port can't find headers

2018-06-04 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > Hi all, > My minix port can't seem to find c headers, but it knows where to look, any > thoughts on what could be wrong? I have attached a copy of my stderr. Note > that modern minix can not compile with gcc, and must compile with clang/l

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Minix port can't find headers

2018-06-06 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
red in /usr/include/RPC/ on MINIX > and is instead stored in "event2", so I will have to implement some if > defineds, I have yet to check the other problems > > Thank you for your time, > -Chase > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On June 3, 2018 10:07 PM,

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE Development release?

2018-06-07 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Well, I am planning on removing the last of the old OSs sometime soon so I don't know if that would affect things, as for a develoent release, I think its been long overdue, as well as the bump in version (3 digits should be bugfix and security releases in my opinion). ​Thank you for your time

[cdesktopenv-devel] Wiki cleanups

2018-06-08 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, The wiki is by far the best place to get information on CDE in my opinion, but there are some issues with it, many articles are orphan articles (articles which have no articles linking to it), duplicate information, outdated information (archlinux build in particular, Christopher, since

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Wiki cleanups

2018-06-08 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
ge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/More Integrated Applications/ > Would be nice to integrate some stuff like this into CDE itself for a > better user experience. But perhaps that should be saved for a later > release, but could be highlighted on the main Wiki page for others to try. > -jon &

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove reallyoldsun defines

2018-06-08 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
These never were defined anyways, so their removal should be inconsequential. Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 09d17b70c12577579e3c474275aeb248bf89aed8 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 21:01:54 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] Remove reallyoldsun defines --- cde/programs/dtma

[cdesktopenv-devel] Status of AIX and HPUX ports, and thoughts about dtksh

2018-06-09 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, Does anyone know the status of the AIX and HPUX ports of CDE? Does anyone have the hardware and software to test them on? Also, requiring ksh to build is a bit of a fault point for many users, especially the ones on BSDs, how difficult would it be to remove the requirement for ksh durin

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] installCDE: remove duplicate code

2018-06-10 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
This patch should work and not throw any segfaults like the last attempt, compiled and ran the script myself to make sure. Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom cbe0ef0cff77f34c9054f14b7d889c8adebc87bf Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 11:02:07 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] inst

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] env.csh: remove duplicate cshell code

2018-06-10 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
This patch removes duplicate cshell code Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom b15f0c1d75ab3d8f1eb4c6f3be7688a0697468b8 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 11:45:34 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 2/2] env.csh: remove duplicate cshell code --- cde/programs/dtdocbook/README

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] env.csh: remove duplicate cshell code

2018-06-10 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Message ‐‐‐ On June 10, 2018 1:30 PM, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > ​​ > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > > > This patch removes duplicate cshell code > > ... why? > > Marcin --

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Status of AIX and HPUX ports, and thoughts about dtksh

2018-06-10 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Does anyone know the status of the AIX and HPUX ports of CDE? Does > > > > anyone have the hardware and software to test them on? > > No, but as they are both still in "business"

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Wiki cleanups

2018-06-10 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
better user experience. But perhaps that should be saved for a later >> release, but could be highlighted on the main Wiki page for others to try. >> -jon >> >>> On Friday, June 8, 2018, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel >>> >> mailto:cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourcefor

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] env.csh: remove duplicate cshell code

2018-06-10 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
alright, ignore this pull then ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 10, 2018 2:01 PM, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > ​​ > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018, Chase wrote: > > > Coding in cshell is considered harmful, and should be avoided when > > possible, see this writ

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove irix support

2018-06-10 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hopefully this doesn't conflict with any tests or ports by ulrich. Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 4022f5cad31f0f1c2fda2d5b3e755c29cbd29884 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:36:16 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 2/2] Remove Irix support --- cde/config/cf/Imake.cf

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove irix support

2018-06-10 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Apparently if you make a new topic with the exact same name as the old topic on the list, it makes it a reply to the old one, interesting... Maybe its just my email client. Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 10, 2018 4:38 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] /var/dt, can we get rid of it (with some work)?

2018-06-10 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Putting files on top of /var does cause debian to throw an error due to FHS violations (https://lintian.debian.org/tags/non-standard-dir-in-var.html), as does /usr/dt, but its only a warning (https://lintian.debian.org/tags/non-standard-dir-in-usr.html), but /etc/dt is perfectly fine, so we cou

[cdesktopenv-devel] Moving to MIT license

2018-06-11 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, I would like to know, what is holding up our move to the MIT license? The only thing I can think of are the btree_berkeley files which we have no rights to, but those are only used for the database for installation, which we could get rid of if we fixed make install, it's all tied togeth

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] docbook.tcl: add shebang

2018-06-12 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Ignore the misspelling, lintian throws a warning if the shebang isn't present Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom a46534f2f80e39bb940977e3f60c12a7e1193b03 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 06:46:08 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] docnook.tcl: Add shebang --- cde/programs/dtdocb

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Moving to MIT license

2018-06-13 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
So then we will not move to MIT anymore? It doesn't matter either way for me, I just want to get it out of the way so we can get other things done. If this is the case, we should take the MIT stuff off of the wiki. ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 13

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] docbook.tcl: add shebang

2018-06-13 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
If I could get a list of all the tcl locations, I would make a macro, but I must know, if we don't use it, why is it here? ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 12, 2018 11:40 PM, Ulrich Wilkens wrote: > ​​ > > On 06/12/18 13:50, Chase v

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] imake gcc version detection (sun)

2018-06-15 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
We really ought to stop patching our version of Imake and just start using the ones prepackaged in Linux, *BSD and Solaris, would make all our lives much easier and the code smaller and more maintainable. ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 15, 2018 5:3

[cdesktopenv-devel] Using prepackaged imake

2018-06-16 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, I gave a whack at attempting to use prepackaged imake in the xutils-dev package that debian provides. My work consists of removing the extremely overcomplicated bootstrapping process, the config directory and the utils directory, and pointing the makefile to the correct binaries and conf

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Moving to MIT license

2018-06-16 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
I can see both sides of the argument, although I must say that permissive licenses rarely see corporate users contribute back their code, Andrew tanenbaum, creator of Minix, received a letter from an employee of intel stating how intel preferred permissively licensed software to copyleft softwar

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Using prepackaged imake

2018-06-17 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
June 16, 2018 8:22 PM, Doug Royer wrote: > ​​ > > On 06/16/2018 01:05 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I gave a whack at attempting to use prepackaged imake ..., but I am running > > > > into an error, ... Log attached. >

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ksh status

2018-06-17 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
: > > > > > On 06/10/18 03:29, Brent Busby wrote: > > > > > > > Jon Trulson j...@radscan.com writes: > > > > > > > > > On 06/09/2018 05:40 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > > > > > > > > > >

[cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-17 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, I would like for someone to put in a ticket to update the btree_berkeley files in dtinfo to their most recent 1.X release, which can be found on oracle's website, I would say we should update to 6.X, however it is licensed under AGPL, and is also probably almost impossible to integrate d

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Wiki cleanups

2018-06-17 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
2018, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> The wiki is by far the best place to get information on CDE in my opinion, >> but there are some issues with it, many articles are orphan articles >> (articles which have no articles linking to it), dupli

[cdesktopenv-devel] The sorry state of imake

2018-06-19 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Hi all, Matthew T. and I have had a conversation about imake and whether or not it would be a good idea to merge with master or not. After doing a bit of discussion, I sent a message to alan coopersmith to see if anyone at the imake team would be willing to look at our code and help us merge, to

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] The sorry state of imake

2018-06-20 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
ively easy fix. Would switching to autotools also solve the rpath problem? ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 20, 2018 12:04 PM, Jon Trulson wrote: > ​​ > > On 06/19/2018 09:33 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > > > Hi all, &g

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] The sorry state of imake

2018-06-20 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
I will state what my personal goals are for the project if it gives perspective: Building a Debian package (1st priority!) Cutting out cruft (OS support for OSs that have no chance of ever being revived, and have no active maintainers, honestly if we could've found active maintainers for the OSs

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] SPEC file for Linux CentOS 7

2018-06-20 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
I know next to nothing about rpm based packaging, perhaps you should submit a pull request with your changes so we could see an official rpm in the centos is repos and collaborate with one another. I am the main guy spearheading development on the Debian package, but I would really like to see o

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] The sorry state of imake

2018-06-23 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Have you emailed that guy back since then? He may've put something together but forgot about it. If imake could get any deader, I was just emailed saying upstream wouldn't even merge our changes due to our imake being lgplv2+ licensed, so my vote is officially migrating to autotools after this

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Proposing an official release in two weeks

2018-06-23 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
My vote is for a new release, however I have my reservations on waiting another 1-2 years for the next release. I would like to get the debian package out as soon as reasonably possible, so could we switch to a release schedule of roughly 6 months from now on? That way people don't think we are

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Proposing an official release in two weeks

2018-06-23 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
stable > releases? That would help show activity if necessary, without potentially > reducing stable releases to vaporware. > > By the way, I don't know the packaging requirements for Debian... are you > required to package a "stable" release? > > -mrt > From

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove ultrix support

2018-06-23 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Third times the charm! Posting some last minute patches before the release comes. Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 9733966cadd694507131c864baa7c19afd4d6f4e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 21:48:44 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] Remove ultrix support --- cde/config/cf/Ima

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] You guys are driving me nuts with ideas

2018-06-23 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Sounds like a fun pet project, glad to see people being creative with CDE Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 23, 2018 9:58 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > I'm sitting here with one of my beaglebone black boards a little high > performance single-board compute

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove Apple unix support

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
This patch also cleans up a file with ifdef mess Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 14e52e59b9d63d66a5c8a78284a88b93ec7f78bc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 07:22:21 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 2/2] Remove macII support --- cde/config/cf/Imake.cf|

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] linux.cf: Remove -fpermissive flag

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
This flag doesn't seem to prevent anything now from causing an error, this might be different for clang and yacc, but gcc worked fine, so I will only remove it on linux until further testing can be done. Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 0b376bb85cae0079b891cfa198b4dae1f8baeb2c Mon Sep 17 00:0

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] es_ES.UTF-8 localizing

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
1. Not that I am aware of 2. Not that I am aware of 3. No 4. You'll be laying the foundation for this task, not even many of the more seasoned veterans know much on this topic, but it would be a great service to all of us. I would help you, but I myself do not know where to begin... Thank you fo

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove apollo support

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
o stake in it; but just so you know > the lack of hardware doesn't preclude someone running them. > > > On Jun 24, 2018, at 15:20, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel > > cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > > > For everything except mkprod. This will be irrel

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove ultrix support

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
his kind of stuff needs to go into cde-next rather than master... Only > > bug fixes, doc fixes, etc should go into master until release. > > Once release is released, then we can merge cde-next into master. > > -jon > > On 06/23/2018 08:50 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wro

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
an.gr/~atsol/newpage-en/software/cde/screenshots/cde-panel-menus.jpg and here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin5ZBo7jPs Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 17, 2018 10:22 AM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > Hi all, > I would like for someone to put

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
wkins wrote: > ​​ > > https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/tickets/new/ > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 at 00:27, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel > > cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > > Could someone please put this in for me? > > > > Als

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Ah, no wonder why Jon is the co leader of this project, you are very abrasive for no reason, especially towards someone who does free work. ​Thank you for your time, -Chase​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 24, 2018 7:05 PM, Peter Howkins wrote: > ​​ > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 at 01:0

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

2018-06-24 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
not be tolerated. I have been here about as > long as Peter and Jon, I may be employee #3. So be respectful, please. > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:14 PM Chase via cdesktopenv-devel > wrote: > >> Ah, no wonder why Jon is the co leader of this project, you are very >> abr

[cdesktopenv-devel] I'm back

2018-07-05 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
After thinking over my departure very carefully, I have decided to return to the project. Peter, I apologize for calling you abrasive and cluttering up the mailing list, I am still learning the ropes of OSS development, and while I would've preferred a kinder message, I understand that the inte

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Add debian packaging files

2018-07-07 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
I used to develop these in my own repo, however many project simply include the debian packaging files, so I am moving them to the main repo. These will probably have to undergo major change when we switch to autotools. The package doesn't work fully due to the postinstall files not understandin

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Add debian packaging files

2018-07-07 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
./debian/cde-desktop > > That should probably be "-destDir" - it's case sensitive, and to avoid > > the config* scripts from running, you might also want to add > > "-DontRunScripts" option. Then, the post install scripts should do what > > the nor

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Integration of Antonis Tsolomitis' desktop_approots tarball, with some changes

2018-07-20 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Let's fix what we have before we add anything new... We still have many compiler warnings and duplicate programs that could be replaced by packages (nsgmls, jpeg, etc...) Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 20, 2018 3:07 PM, Edmond Orignac wrote: > I remem

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Add upstream config files

2018-07-27 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
These will probably need a bit of tweaking to make them compatible with CDE, but at least the ice is broken on these ports Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom ace7dff9bf55d155032213a08c962666b08312af Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 17:13:48 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] Add

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove redundant motif widgets

2018-07-27 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
If we ever need these, we can simply include them via X11/bitmaps Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 17db04e808b7fae63131507a712356315e51e38e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 20:39:03 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] Remove redundant motif widgets --- cde/databases/CDE-ICONS.u

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Use packaged nsgmls

2018-07-28 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
Fixing an error I missed, this will need a different macro as well Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On July 28, 2018 9:44 AM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > We will now depend on the opensp package, the macro will most likely need to > be chang

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Refactor and reimplement dtudcfonted

2018-07-29 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
nch you are targeting? Have you been > doing this? > > Certainly, this should be done before submitting a patch - that may > explain why some of the patches you submitted would not apply. > > I'm not going to merge this. > -jon > > On 07/27/2018 03:54 PM, Chase via cdesk

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Refactor and reimplement dtudcfonted

2018-07-30 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
; > or cde-next depending on what branch you are targeting? Have you been > > > doing this? > > > Certainly, this should be done before submitting a patch - that may > > > explain why some of the patches you submitted would not apply. > > > I'm not going to merge thi

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Use packaged nsgmls

2018-07-30 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
The reason I chose opensp instead of sp is simply because when I tried installing sp on Lubuntu, it gave me an error saying "Package sp has no installation candidate", although it is in the debian repos, so I don't know whats happening with that. I also picked it due to looking at the *bsd and

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Refactor and reimplement dtudcfonted

2018-07-31 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
iverge while you work on your stuff. > > It is definitely a good idea, if not a requirement, to rebase (and of > course fix any conflicts) before preparing a patch or patch set for > submission. > > This is common git work flow, so it's worth learning how all this works. &g

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Docbook (was: Re: [PATCH] Use packaged nsgmls)

2018-07-31 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
t; > So - is anyone on this list familiar with docbook XML want to take up > the task of upgrading our documentation format and generation to > something from this decade? > > Short term, using a new onsgmls is probably the way to go, but long > term, it seems clear we need to upda

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Docbook

2018-07-31 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
> XML fans like to sum up all these changes with "XML: tastes great, less > > > filling." > > > =-= > > > :) > > > So - is anyone on this list familiar with docbook XML want to take up > > > the task of upgrading our documentation for

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Refactor and reimplement dtudcfonted

2018-07-31 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
t; > > It is definitely a good idea, if not a requirement, to rebase (and of > > > course fix any conflicts) before preparing a patch or patch set for > > > submission. > > > This is common git work flow, so it's worth learning how all this works. > > > -jo

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Docbook

2018-08-01 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
I believe he is referring to this online linter: https://scan.coverity.com/ Thank you for your time, -Chase ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 1, 2018 7:56 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote: > Yeah, I can respect everything you said here, and more or less agree. > > By the way, what is "cove

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] post_install: Fix shellcheck warnings

2018-08-19 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
1st of four incoming patches Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 0cb151787253c724203814135f6527a0685863cc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 13:33:35 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 1/4] post_install: fix shellcheck warnings --- .../IntegTools/post_install/build_udb_list| 2

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove amoeba support

2018-08-19 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
This is an open source OS, however I really don't see it going anywhere in the near future... Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom ba1001ceb4f323670565db683e7a7fd88d35c51a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 14:58:55 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 2/4] Remove amoeba support --- c

[cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] remove win32 support

2018-08-19 Thread Chase via cdesktopenv-devel
I highly doubt this was ever able to compile, I think if we want it to support windows, it should be rewritten with mingw or cygwin in mind Thank you for your time, -ChaseFrom 71469ec816205c54f3ebc689ee20a9c1317a439c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: chase Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 15:57:09 -0500 Subj

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