>From: "John L. Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>5/22/01 2:28:10 PM, Torrey Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>and as a result "cdrecord --scanbus" identified the drive with
>>an out-of-the box Linux Mandrake install. I can burn CD's just
>>fine, all it took was a quick read of the cdrecord ma
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5/22/01 6:08:20 PM, Torrey Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> John L. Turner wrote:
>> 5/22/01 2:28:10 PM, Torrey Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> >and as a result "cdrecord --scanbus" identified the drive with
>> >an out-of-the box Linux Mandrake install. I can burn CD's just
>> >fi
> John L. Turner wrote:
> 5/22/01 2:28:10 PM, Torrey Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >and as a result "cdrecord --scanbus" identified the drive with
> >an out-of-the box Linux Mandrake install. I can burn CD's just
> >fine, all it took was a quick read of the cdrecord man page.
>
> Just
5/22/01 2:28:10 PM, Torrey Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>and as a result "cdrecord --scanbus" identified the drive with
>an out-of-the box Linux Mandrake install. I can burn CD's just
>fine, all it took was a quick read of the cdrecord man page.
Just curious; Did you test the TRACK AT
So sprach [EMAIL PROTECTED] am Tue, May 22, 2001 at 08:32:38PM +0200:
> If ide-scsi was the default, then no PC-card drive would work at
> all until the bug has been fixed.
Okay, "fine". But this really is a drastic step which surely won't be
applied until later. Dunno, but wouldn't it be more
So sprach Torrey Hoffman am Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:28:10AM -0700:
> Instead, talk to the distribution maintainers. They have the
That's what I'm also beginning to think (and already have said). From your
experience, we now know that Mandrake doesn't have to be 'converted' to
easily allow burni
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 22 20:28:52 2001
>I should mention that Linux Mandrake 7.2 and 8.0 both detected
>my HP CD-Writer 8100 during installation, (as well as my IDE Zip
>drive) and correctly installed the necessary modules for
>ide-scsi, sg, and the rest. The kernel config was corr
So sprach [EMAIL PROTECTED] am Tue, May 22, 2001 at 07:48:39PM +0200:
> Many people have a problem when they start to use Linux.
> This is because they need to finf out that there is a need to edit obscure
> places like the boot configuration in order to make their CD writer work
> while it works
So sprach Bill Davidsen am Tue, May 22, 2001 at 01:38:36PM -0400:
> CDDA capability, somehow I really doubt that I would miss SCSI. But I
> don't claim that most people have old CDs, only that they don't burn
> them, and that the vast majority of people using Linux don't have a
> problem now.
If
I should mention that Linux Mandrake 7.2 and 8.0 both detected
my HP CD-Writer 8100 during installation, (as well as my IDE Zip
drive) and correctly installed the necessary modules for
ide-scsi, sg, and the rest. The kernel config was correctly
set up with:
"hdb=ide-scsi hdd=ide-floppy"
and
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Davidsen)
>> WRONG: ... or must I send you a ide-cdrom driver where I removed the ability
>> to send SCSI commands to the CD-ROM drive to proove that you ar wrong?
>>
>> Fact is you NEED SCSI commands to do it and ide-cdrom does it in a non Linux way
>> so cdr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> > What more than read do you need for a CD-ROM? My drives all have a
> >> >convenient button to eject media, which is handy because I use my hand
> >> >to pick up the CD and my finger is right there. As I found out once, by
> >> >using software eject you can stick t
5/22/01 1:16:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Davidsen) wrote:
>"John L. Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > You still miss the issue. The argument for not changing is that (a) few
>> >people feel the need for the change, (b) the kernel developers are
>> >working at other things they think a
So sprach Denis Pelletier am Tue, May 22, 2001 at 01:22:37PM -0400:
> If it is so then I don't see the need for a new IDE and SCSI
> implementation. Am I missing something?
If you are, than I'm also missing something. That's how I understood Jörg
as well...
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So sprach [EMAIL PROTECTED] am Tue, May 22, 2001 at 06:38:11PM +0200:
> a) This is a very important isue as many people have problems and the kernel
>developers don't listen to them!
>
> b) it is the opposite way round: the current default requires user education
> while my suggestion w
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Bill Davidsen wrote:
{ The relationship between Redhat, et al, and developers is musch like
{ the relationship between a car dealer and the factory... The
{ "distributions" are packaging of the base Linux kernel and associated
{ software. While some distributors make change
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> suggested:
> You are asking the wrong group of people. Kernel hackers/developers CAN'T
> help you.
>
> You need to talk to RedHat, SuSe, Caldera, Mandrake, ... and all other
> companies that distribute Linux. That's what an average user installs and
> these distributors decid
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 22 18:10:35 2001
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Davidsen)
>> >Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >> I took Bill Davidsen out of the list as the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> is bad and is bounced since half a year.
>>
>> >What he means is
>
> You still miss the issue. The argument for not changing is that (a) few
>people feel the need for the change, (b) the kernel developers are
>working at other things they think are important, and (c) any major
>change like this would require user education, changes in configuration,
>and don't
Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Davidsen)
> >Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> I took Bill Davidsen out of the list as the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> is bad and is bounced since half a year.
>
> >What he means is that his sit
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> >
> > Absolutely wrong! Forward this mail to Redhat, Caldera, SuSe, etc...
> >
> >
> I think you are absolutely wrong. If you download a kernel from ftp.kernel.org
> then there are default settings. Maybe you should try out to compile
> a kernel yours
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 22 12:57:32 2001
>Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:57:27 +0200 (MET DST)
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>Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:40:09 +0200
>From: Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: ide-scsi problem!
>Resent-Message-I
> You are asking the wrong group of people. Kernel hackers/developers CAN'T
> help you.
>
> You need to talk to RedHat, SuSe, Caldera, Mandrake, ... and all other
> companies that distribute Linux. That's what an average user installs and
> these distributors decide what kernel they ship by defa
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> In our research institute nobody bought a PC with less that 512 MB in 2001.
> Asking perople abouth their private PC's, I know that nobod bought less than
> 128 MB for a PC that is new this year.
A research institute is NOT populated by average users
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