Le 10/12/2020 à 00:51, Joshua Kramer a écrit :
> There have been hundreds of other messages that describe exactly what
> RedHat loses in this deal so I won't go into that here. But branding
> oneself as a "bad faith actor" is usually a terrible way to try to
> pick up a little bit of subscription
Le 10/12/2020 à 00:51, Joshua Kramer a écrit :
> After reading and digesting a ton of community chatter about the
> recent CentOS announcement I've come to the conclusion that there's a
> lot of good about this, but there are also a lot of concerns that are
> being ignored. And nobody so far has
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
> On 12/9/20 12:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> > While I'm not sure how we'll get there, it seems like the
> > mutually satisfying end result would be one where third party binary
> > drivers work with CentOS Stream kernels. Let's see what we
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:51 PM Joshua Kramer
wrote:
> CentOS called "AppStream"
>
There is no version of CentOS called AppStream. AppStream is a repository
inside of 8 (
On 12/9/20 6:06 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
Okay, say I decide to go with LDAP and NFS. I'll be needing some hand
holding to get it set up.
If you don't have a very good reason to do choose something else, then
use FreeIPA for your LDAP/Kerberos service. It's very streamlined.
On 12/09/2020 09:48 PM, H wrote:
> On 12/09/2020 09:43 PM, H wrote:
>> On 11/18/2020 11:19 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
>>> On 11/18/20 4:38 PM, H wrote:
I am a beginner when it comes to compiling applications and would
appreciate suggestion how to fix the above. Thank you.
>>> Looks like
On 12/09/2020 09:43 PM, H wrote:
> On 11/18/2020 11:19 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
>> On 11/18/20 4:38 PM, H wrote:
>>> I am a beginner when it comes to compiling applications and would
>>> appreciate suggestion how to fix the above. Thank you.
>>
>> Looks like a build failure that was mentioned
On 11/18/2020 11:19 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 11/18/20 4:38 PM, H wrote:
>> I am a beginner when it comes to compiling applications and would appreciate
>> suggestion how to fix the above. Thank you.
>
>
> Looks like a build failure that was mentioned here:
>
The list is swamped with news about CentOS 8 dying in a year and becoming
stream Linux.
IWeve been here before, folks. I remember when Red Hat Linux disappeared to
become the Feodra / Red Hat Enterprise we know today, which gave birth to
White Box Enterprise Linux, Scientific Linux, and
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
>
> On 12/9/20 12:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> > While I'm not sure how we'll get there, it seems like the
> > mutually satisfying end result would be one where third party binary
> > drivers work with CentOS Stream kernels. Let's see what we
On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 6:32:00 AM PST Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> This is really, really bad for the majority of us using CentOS.
>
> Is there any way we can lobby for the reversal of this decision? Remember
> that the -devel mailing list, and IRC channels *do not* represent the vast
>
On 12/9/20 12:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
While I'm not sure how we'll get there, it seems like the
mutually satisfying end result would be one where third party binary
drivers work with CentOS Stream kernels. Let's see what we can do.
So, I want to address this part a bit. In MANY cases,
On 12/6/20 11:21 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:
I found this:
https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=CentOS_8=nis=1
I've been told in the past that NIS should not be used because of some
supposed security issues.
Can someone site any authoritative documentation concerning the security
issues extant
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 11:43:53PM +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Report from ElRepo guys is that every single driver they maintain is
> broken between 8.2 and 8.3, there was change i kABI.
>
> Contact ElRepo for help/explanation or report a bug in CentOS bugzila.
I have to say that at
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 16:51 Joshua Kramer wrote:
> Hello All-
>
> After reading and digesting a ton of community chatter about the
> recent CentOS announcement I've come to the conclusion that there's a
> lot of good about this, but there are also a lot of concerns that are
> being ignored. And
Hello All-
After reading and digesting a ton of community chatter about the
recent CentOS announcement I've come to the conclusion that there's a
lot of good about this, but there are also a lot of concerns that are
being ignored. And nobody so far has stared directly into the eyes of
the
How disappointing.
but thanks for the response...
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 2:44 PM Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Report from ElRepo guys is that every single driver they maintain is
> broken between 8.2 and 8.3, there was change i kABI.
>
> Contact ElRepo for help/explanation or report a bug in
Report from ElRepo guys is that every single driver they maintain is
broken between 8.2 and 8.3, there was change i kABI.
Contact ElRepo for help/explanation or report a bug in CentOS bugzila.
On 12/9/20 11:06 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> Hello all--
> I recently did a bulk update from 8.2 to 8.3. I
On 12/9/2020 1:43 PM, david wrote:
> CentOS Fans:
>
> I've spent hours yesterday and today reading the messages about the
> Centos 8 Stream, and expect to do it for the next few days also. I
> would recommend that anyone contemplating some action, such as
> switching to a different distribution,
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 01:01:28PM -0600, Christopher Wensink wrote:
> Understanding the flow of packages, is it a fair comparison to say
> that moving forward:
> Fedora packages could be considered alpha/beta releases of apps
> Centos/Stream could be considered beta / Pre-release / Release
>
Hello all--
I recently did a bulk update from 8.2 to 8.3. I am having some odd issues
with it not recognizing my NVIDIA Quadro P1X00 graphics card properly. In
graphical mode, it only shows ONE display resolution and also my system can
not find firmware --
intel/sof/sof-cml.ri
Any idea about what
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 07:02:03PM +, James Pearson wrote:
> If there is going to be a no-cost RHEL that can be used in the same way as
> CentOS is used now, then I think that would solve all the problems with
> this CentOS Stream announcement ... and calm down things
There's not going to be
On 12/9/20 3:23 PM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 4:03 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
>> On 12/9/20 1:06 PM, James Szinger wrote:
>>> I have a couple of questions about CentOS Stream.
>>>
>>> 1. Is there list for update announcements? Something similar to
>>>
TBD is only for ISO file. There is ISO for 8.1, just not for 8.2, and
there is even boot.iso for 8.2 for online install.
On 12/9/20 10:05 PM, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote:
> Am 09.12.20 um 21:11 schrieb Ljubomir Ljubojevic:
>> Considering there is entire year until "CentOS Linux 8" is EOL, and
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 4:03 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/9/20 1:06 PM, James Szinger wrote:
> > I have a couple of questions about CentOS Stream.
> >
> > 1. Is there list for update announcements? Something similar to
> > upda...@fedoraproject.org.
> >
> > 2. Since both CentOS and EPEL are
On 12/9/20 12:55 PM, James Szinger wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 13:22:15 -0500
> Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:58:10AM -0600, Barry Brimer wrote:
>>> If the same happened in the previous question but was in a package
>>> or set of packages that was being rebased in 8.5
Am 09.12.20 um 21:11 schrieb Ljubomir Ljubojevic:
Considering there is entire year until "CentOS Linux 8" is EOL, and few
years until "CentOS Linux 7" is eol, I agree there is no rush to switch.
I will use next 12 months to test Springdale Linux (ex PUIAS Linux) and
wait and see what comes out
On 12/9/20 1:06 PM, James Szinger wrote:
> I have a couple of questions about CentOS Stream.
>
> 1. Is there list for update announcements? Something similar to
> upda...@fedoraproject.org.
>
> 2. Since both CentOS and EPEL are Red Hat projects, will Red Hat
> provide an EPEL version compatible
On 12/9/20 1:01 PM, Christopher Wensink wrote:
> Understanding the flow of packages, is it a fair comparison to say that
> moving forward:
> Fedora packages could be considered alpha/beta releases of apps
> Centos/Stream could be considered beta / Pre-release / Release
> candidates of packages /
Am 09.12.20 um 20:28 schrieb Jon Pruente:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:24 AM Leon Fauster via CentOS
mailto:centos@centos.org>> wrote:
> The relatively fewer that are on CentOS Linux 8 have some
decisions to
> make. The end of 2021 is sooner than they were expecting *but*
there
On 12/9/20 11:29 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 11:00 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>
>> Put this line :
>>
>> dnf swap centos-{linux,stream}-repos
>>
>> after
>>
>> dnf install centos-release-stream
>>
>
> Is there away to recover the system I tried it on - if I run that
> command
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2020:5235 Important
Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2020:5235
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )
x86_64:
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2020:5239 Important
Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2020:5239
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )
x86_64:
Am 09.12.20 um 18:25 schrieb Frank Cox:
Here's an idea, though I don't know if it would be practical.
I assume that at some point everything that goes into RHEL and its "official"
updates travels through the Stream ecosystem beforehand.
So what about the idea of maintaining (somewhere) a list
Considering there is entire year until "CentOS Linux 8" is EOL, and few
years until "CentOS Linux 7" is eol, I agree there is no rush to switch.
I will use next 12 months to test Springdale Linux (ex PUIAS Linux) and
wait and see what comes out of "Rocky Linux" startup that has started
today
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 2:46 PM david wrote:
>
> Hours of reading
>
>
>
> CentOS Fans:
>
> I've spent hours yesterday and today reading the messages about the
> Centos 8 Stream, and expect to do it for the next few days also. I
> would recommend that anyone contemplating some action, such as
>
Hours of reading
CentOS Fans:
I've spent hours yesterday and today reading the messages about the
Centos 8 Stream, and expect to do it for the next few days also. I
would recommend that anyone contemplating some action, such as
switching to a different distribution, advising your
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 4:26 AM Rainer Traut wrote:
>
> > Oracle Linux FAQ (PDF):
> > https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/027617.pdf
>
> There is no subscription needed. All needed repositories for the oVirt
> based virtualization are freely available.
>
>
>
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:03 AM Christopher Wensink <
cwens...@five-star-plastics.com> wrote:
> Understanding the flow of packages, is it a fair comparison to say that
> moving forward:
> Fedora packages could be considered alpha/beta releases of apps
> Centos/Stream could be considered beta /
I have a couple of questions about CentOS Stream.
1. Is there list for update announcements? Something similar to
upda...@fedoraproject.org.
2. Since both CentOS and EPEL are Red Hat projects, will Red Hat
provide an EPEL version compatible with CentOS Stream?
Jim
Understanding the flow of packages, is it a fair comparison to say that
moving forward:
Fedora packages could be considered alpha/beta releases of apps
Centos/Stream could be considered beta / Pre-release / Release
candidates of packages / partially stable
RHEL official releases would be
Matthew Miller:
>> why don't they just make RHEL available to all for 'free', and you just
>> pay for support if you need it - i.e. a bit like it is now, RHEL if you
>> pay, CentOS if you don't - I'm sure that would make everyone happy :-)
>
> Because RHEL's value proposition is not merely
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 13:22:15 -0500
Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:58:10AM -0600, Barry Brimer wrote:
> > If the same happened in the previous question but was in a package
> > or set of packages that was being rebased in 8.5 would it work the
> > same way?
>
> Hmmm. I'm not
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:40:22AM +, J Martin Rushton via CentOS wrote:
> And exactly the same applies to senior (or retired) admins on their
> home computers. My main home machine runs about a dozen testbed
> VMs, DHCP/DNS for the home network, Amanda, NFS and Samba for other
> machines,
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 12:33:57PM -0600, Tom Bishop wrote:
> They would have saved a lot of bashing of teeth etc if they would have had
> all of that ready at the same time so folks could assess where things fall,
> right now all we have is RH folks saying something else is coming with no
>
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:24:33AM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> What will be the incentive for vendors to participate? Sure you can
> talk the corporate talk about opportunities and ecosystems, but the
> bottom line is that it requires investment (at least in time) when they
> could just continue
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 06:26:22PM +, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393)
Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote:
> > Absolutely. The only path into RHEL minor releases that isn't through Stream
> > is for CVEs and other embargoed changes. And those will go back into Stream
> > as soon as they
On 12/9/2020 10:18 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 04:03:42PM +, Laack, Andrea P wrote:
The companies that pay for RHEL licenses for production and use CentOS for
test will be left with a large problem. They will either need to purchase
double the number of RHEL licenses
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 12:27 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 06:02:37PM +, James Pearson wrote:
> > why don't they just make RHEL available to all for 'free', and you just
> > pay for support if you need it - i.e. a bit like it is now, RHEL if you
> > pay, CentOS if you
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:15:40AM +0200, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote:
> >Is it possible that more regressions will get through than have before?
> >Well, sure, some. But let's not pretend that even RHEL is ever
> >regression-free. It's software, after all, and there are bugs and
> >errata. I don't
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:18 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 04:03:42PM +, Laack, Andrea P wrote:
> > The companies that pay for RHEL licenses for production and use CentOS
> for
> > test will be left with a large problem. They will either need to purchase
> > double the
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 06:02:37PM +, James Pearson wrote:
> why don't they just make RHEL available to all for 'free', and you just
> pay for support if you need it - i.e. a bit like it is now, RHEL if you
> pay, CentOS if you don't - I'm sure that would make everyone happy :-)
Because
> On Dec 9, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:58:10AM -0600, Barry Brimer wrote:
>> If a bug were to make it into CentOS Stream, and identified before
>> RHEL 8.4 was released, would an updated/fixed package be produced
>> and placed into CentOS Stream?
>
>
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:58:10AM -0600, Barry Brimer wrote:
> If a bug were to make it into CentOS Stream, and identified before
> RHEL 8.4 was released, would an updated/fixed package be produced
> and placed into CentOS Stream?
Absolutely. The only path into RHEL minor releases that isn't
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:12 PM Tom Bishop wrote:
> Well looks like the jokes have already started, some one from work sent
> this to me this morning - https://centos.rip/
>
> No association etc not sure who etc...
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On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 04:03:42PM +, Laack, Andrea P wrote:
> The companies that pay for RHEL licenses for production and use CentOS for
> test will be left with a large problem. They will either need to purchase
> double the number of RHEL licenses and switch to RHEL for testing or go to
>
Well looks like the jokes have already started, some one from work sent
this to me this morning - https://centos.rip/
No association etc not sure who etc...
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Frank Cox:
> Here's an idea, though I don't know if it would be practical.
>
> I assume that at some point everything that goes into RHEL and its "official"
> updates travels through the Stream ecosystem beforehand.
>
> So what about the idea of maintaining (somewhere) a list of official updates
>
On 09/12/2020 17:32, Peter Georg wrote:
On 09/12/2020 18.10, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:21 AM Phil Perry wrote:
On 09/12/2020 03:26, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:19 PM Pete Biggs wrote:
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On
On 09.12.2020 18:12, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/9/20 11:01 AM, Walter H. wrote:
On 09.12.2020 15:45, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
p.s. can someone tell in as short as possible what this CentOS Stream is
in comparison to CentOS 8?
CentOS Stream is built from the
Am 09.12.20 um 18:12 schrieb Johnny Hughes:
On 12/9/20 11:01 AM, Walter H. wrote:
On 09.12.2020 15:45, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
p.s. can someone tell in as short as possible what this CentOS Stream is
in comparison to CentOS 8?
CentOS Stream is built from the
On 09/12/2020 18.10, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:21 AM Phil Perry wrote:
On 09/12/2020 03:26, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:19 PM Pete Biggs wrote:
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +,
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 11:00 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
> Put this line :
>
> dnf swap centos-{linux,stream}-repos
>
> after
>
> dnf install centos-release-stream
>
Is there away to recover the system I tried it on - if I run that
command now I get
No match for argument:
Here's an idea, though I don't know if it would be practical.
I assume that at some point everything that goes into RHEL and its "official"
updates travels through the Stream ecosystem beforehand.
So what about the idea of maintaining (somewhere) a list of official updates to
RHEL as they are
This is an automated email from the git hooks/post-receive script.
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On 12/9/20 11:01 AM, Walter H. wrote:
> On 09.12.2020 15:45, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
>>> p.s. can someone tell in as short as possible what this CentOS Stream is
>>> in comparison to CentOS 8?
>> CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:21 AM Phil Perry wrote:
> On 09/12/2020 03:26, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:19 PM Pete Biggs wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> >>
>
On 12/9/20 10:26 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
>
> We *are* a community, and we should be heard.
>
Absolutrly
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On 09.12.2020 15:45, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
p.s. can someone tell in as short as possible what this CentOS Stream is
in comparison to CentOS 8?
CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is
On 12/9/20 8:01 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:
>
> It's got to be done, so may as well test it ...
>
> The FAQ says to do:
>
>dnf install centos-release-stream
>dnf distro-sync
>
> This I did and everything went fine. I checked before doing the distro-
> sync and there was a load of new
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:18:25 +0100
Rainer Traut wrote:
> > Based on my extremely limited knowledge around Oracle Linux, it sounds like
> > that might be a go-to solution for Centos refugees.
> >
> > But is it, really?
> >
>
> Yes, it is better than Centos and in some aspects better than RHEL:
>
Le 09/12/2020 à 13:54, Ljubomir Ljubojevic a écrit :
> But harsh fact remains that CentOS Linux, a free clone of RHEL, is being
> slaughtered, and as far as I am concerned that "Stream" thingy can be
> renamed to RHEL Stream because it has no resemblance to CentOS Linux I
> know and love.
CentOS
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:19 AM Marc Balmer via CentOS
wrote:
>
>
> > Am 09.12.2020 um 17:15 schrieb Neil Thompson :
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 18:06, Phelps, Matthew
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Hear! HEAR!
> >>
> >> NOBODY asked.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > OK. We get it. We all get it loud and
> Am 09.12.2020 um 17:15 schrieb Neil Thompson :
>
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 18:06, Phelps, Matthew
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hear! HEAR!
>>
>> NOBODY asked.
>>
>>
>>
> OK. We get it. We all get it loud and clear. You're pissed off.
>
> There's two things you can do about that -
> 1)
Am 09.12.20 um 15:54 schrieb Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393)
Washington DC (USA) via CentOS:
On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Hughes
mailto:joh...@centos.org>> wrote:
CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is the
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 18:06, Phelps, Matthew
wrote:
>
>
> Hear! HEAR!
>
> NOBODY asked.
>
>
>
OK. We get it. We all get it loud and clear. You're pissed off.
There's two things you can do about that -
1) accept reality and start making plans to deal with it, or
2) continue to whine and lash
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:59 AM mark wrote:
> Oh, that's right, it's 2020, the dumpster fire of a year.
>
> On 12/9/20 4:40 AM, J Martin Rushton via CentOS wrote:
> >
> > On 09/12/2020 09:26, cen...@niob.at wrote:
> >> On 09/12/2020 07:16, Kingsly John wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A non-paying CentOS user
The companies that pay for RHEL licenses for production and use CentOS for test
will be left with a large problem. They will either need to purchase double
the number of RHEL licenses and switch to RHEL for testing or go to another
distribution. RHEL + 1 will not work for testing application
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 15:13 +, Phil Perry wrote:
If
you are able to retain kernel ABI compatibility between RHEL8 and
Stream
kernels, then we (and other OEMs) will be able to continue to
support
Stream users, otherwise Stream users will have
Oh, that's right, it's 2020, the dumpster fire of a year.
On 12/9/20 4:40 AM, J Martin Rushton via CentOS wrote:
On 09/12/2020 09:26, cen...@niob.at wrote:
On 09/12/2020 07:16, Kingsly John wrote:
A non-paying CentOS user is not a real loss for RHEL. But people dumping
CentOS for a non-RHEL
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/9/20 8:54 AM, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC
(USA) via CentOS wrote:
On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Hughes
mailto:joh...@centos.org>> wrote:
CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
So
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 15:13 +, Phil Perry wrote:
>
> If
> you are able to retain kernel ABI compatibility between RHEL8 and
> Stream
> kernels, then we (and other OEMs) will be able to continue to
> support
> Stream users, otherwise Stream users will have to look to
> alternative
>
One thing I have not seen discussed is how users will be notified of changes to
functionality and new features in CentOS Stream.
With Stream being on the leading edge of a release as opposed to following,
will there be some mechanism where changes are blogged about, Beta release
notes, or
On 12/9/20 8:54 AM, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC
(USA) via CentOS wrote:
> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Hughes
> mailto:joh...@centos.org>> wrote:
>
> CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
>
> So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is
On 09/12/2020 03:26, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:19 PM Pete Biggs wrote:
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
"CentOS will become the developer playground"
This one is categorically not
Gregory Kurtzer, founder od CAOS Linux that later changed name to CentOS
is starting new RHEL clone: https://github.com/hpcng/rocky
On 12/8/20 8:34 PM, Strahil Nikolov via CentOS-devel wrote:
> If anyone is considering to fork CentOS 8 (I'm not talking about that
> "Stream"), count me in.
>
>
On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Hughes
mailto:joh...@centos.org>> wrote:
CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is the Source Code (built) that
will become 8.4 in a few months.
If this statement is exactly correct, then
On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just tried installing a VM from the stream ISO and it worked;
>
> the only thing I would like to have changed as a default config is
>
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" net.ifnames=0 ..."
>
> the reason, I find eth0, eth1, eth2 easier to use than
Hello,
I just tried installing a VM from the stream ISO and it worked;
the only thing I would like to have changed as a default config is
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" net.ifnames=0 ..."
the reason, I find eth0, eth1, eth2 easier to use than cryptic names
like ens33 or ens0p3 or so;
Walter
On 9/12/2020 4:32 μ.μ., Brendan Conoboy wrote:
As CentOS Stream grows, I expect many companies who sell hardware will
become active members of the community.
Probably, but this is not the point. The value of CentOS is that in
essence it is identical to RHEL.
This allows its use in multiple
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:32 AM Pete Biggs wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I thought I saw a reply from Johnny that streams wasn't quite ready,
> maybe
> > > he will chime in but that's what I thought I saw in a response.
>
> What, in amongst the hundreds of messages, he said it wasn't ready!!
> Why
On 12/9/20 8:31 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I thought I saw a reply from Johnny that streams wasn't quite ready, maybe
>>> he will chime in but that's what I thought I saw in a response.
>
> What, in amongst the hundreds of messages, he said it wasn't ready!!
> Why publish a FAQ and a web
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:41 AM Pete Biggs wrote:
> > I think what a lot of people are concerned about is the rolling-release
> > > aspect of this. There will be no definitive versioning of CentOS in the
> > > future - all you will be able to say is "fully updated" and it won't be
> > > possible
>
> >
> > I thought I saw a reply from Johnny that streams wasn't quite ready, maybe
> > he will chime in but that's what I thought I saw in a response.
What, in amongst the hundreds of messages, he said it wasn't ready!!
Why publish a FAQ and a web page telling you how to migrate without a
I thought I saw a reply from Johnny that streams wasn't quite ready, maybe
he will chime in but that's what I thought I saw in a response.
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Beta perhaps?
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 8:01 AM Pete Biggs wrote:
>
> It's got to be done, so may as well test it ...
>
> The FAQ says to do:
>
>dnf install centos-release-stream
>dnf distro-sync
>
> This I did and everything went fine. I checked before doing the distro-
> sync and there was a load of new
Am 08.12.20 um 22:30 schrieb Frank Cox:
Prior to this point it's been a difference without any difference, but I wonder
if Oracle actually re-creates RHEL or if they re-create Centos.
Oracle was/is much faster in releasing updates, point releases and releases.
They don't need Centos to get
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from e6ab865 Folks seem to object to "rolling release"
add 5f3bd9f Mention EPEL Next
add 9b7922d Clarify answer a little bit.
No new
On 9/12/2020 3:19 μ.μ., Nikolaos Milas wrote:
I still hope that you will not disappoint CentOS admins and users so
badly and that you will continue to support CentOS 8 (and CentOS 7) in
its current/expected form.
A petition has started, to request IBM/Redhat to continue CentOS 8 as
>
> Am 08.12.20 um 19:20 schrieb Alan Mead:
> > On 12/8/2020 11:28 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > > I have been doing this for 17 years. I would continue doing for 17
> > > more. But it is what it is and wishing for it to be different is not
> > > going to happen. I know .. I've tried.
> >
> >
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