Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 11 Dec, 2020 at 07:48:25 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:21:35PM +0000, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > On Thu, 10 Dec, 2020 at 13:12:26 -0600, Tom Bishop wrote:
> > > +1
> > > Looks like between Springdale, Rocky and CloudLinux there will be options.
> > > Such a bad decision that RH made to do this...
> > 
> > True. I just hope that the various alternatives will pool their resources. 
> > History has shown that RHEL derivatives require a lot of effort to 
> > maintain. It would be a shame to dissipate that effort among a number of 
> > competing distros.
> 
> One problem has been that RedHat, when they see a clone is successful, will
> tend to hire the lead developer. This is what happened to Scientific Linux,
> back when CentOS was late with a release (one of the head developers had
> the temerity to get married around that time and somehow, that took some of
> his time).  Scientific Linux was gaining popularity and RH hired their head
> developer. This was before RH was bought by IBM.
> 

That's a good point. It's a perpetual whack-a-mole. But I prefer to whack an 
open-source mole rather than a proprietary one.

> One assumes however, that this wouldn't happen with OEL, though one never
> knows.  

OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven or hell to trust 
them.
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Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 10 Dec, 2020 at 13:12:26 -0600, Tom Bishop wrote:
> +1
> Looks like between Springdale, Rocky and CloudLinux there will be options.
> Such a bad decision that RH made to do this...

True. I just hope that the various alternatives will pool their resources. 
History has shown that RHEL derivatives require a lot of effort to maintain. It 
would be a shame to dissipate that effort among a number of competing distros.
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Re: [CentOS] No sound after latest Firefox update (firefox-78.3.0-1.el6.centos.x86_64)

2020-10-01 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 01 Oct, 2020 at 16:24:34 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 04:01:29PM -0400, mailist wrote:
> > The Ubuntu-derived distros are much better suited to desktop.  I run several
> > of them, as well as
> > CentOS 7 and 8.  Ubuntu, Kubuntu (Ubuntu with KDE), Lubuntu, Debian, PopOS,
> > and Zorin.
> 
> They all use systemd.  If you're running CentOS 6 to avoid that,
> you're out of luck.

Debian (and some of its derivatives) provides other init systems too.
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Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird Revision Issues

2020-05-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 22 May, 2020 at 15:28:39 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> CentOS 6 has Thunderbird 68.8.0
> CentOS 8 has Thunderbird 68.7.0
> 
> When I rsync my .thunderbird folder from my CentOS 6 machine to my CentOS 8
> machine and start Thunderbird it says:
> 
> "A newer version of Thunderbird may have made changes to your
> profile which are no longer compatible with this older version.
> Use this profile only with that newer version, or create a new profile for
> this installation of Thunderbird.  Creating a new profile requires setting
> up your accounts, calendars and add-ons again."
> 
> Needless to say, this is not an acceptable choice.  I have several email
> accounts that would have to be set up.  That's not such a big issue, but I
> have many local folders set up that I can't duplicate on the new
> installation if I can't use my previous profile.
> 
> Does anyone know when CentOS 8 will catch up with CentOS 6 so that I can
> start using my new CentOS 8 box?
> 
> Perhaps there is another work around.  I've tried many of the solution
> provided on the mozilla web site to no avail.  I even tried to install
> Thunderbird 68.8.0 on my CentOS 8 box.  That didn't make it happy either.
> 
> What now brown cow?
> 

There are some workarounds. You could install thunderbird 68.8.0
directly from thunderbird.net, or get a better integrated installation
from flathub.org. You could log into your CentOS 6 box from CentOS 8 and
run thunderbird 68.8.0 remotely. No doubt there are others.
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Re: [CentOS] Zoom....

2020-05-09 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Sat, 09 May, 2020 at 16:02:17 -0400, mark wrote:
> Hi, folks,
> 
>Updated CentOS 7 the other day. Updated zoom last night. Ancient (15 yr
> old) USB camera, Logitech QuickCam Express.
> 
>If I run LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib64/libv4l/v4l2convert.so cheese, I get video.
> Zoom, with or without the LD_PRELOAD - no video. I've tried stracing zoom,
> and created a file /etc/ld.so.preload, with the contents of
> /usr/lib64/libv4l/v4l2convert.so, and in strace, I see it loading it, but
> still no video.
> 
>Anyone got any clues? Being a free end user, all zoom offers is the
> knowledge base

I recommend installing zoom from flatpak:

https://flathub.org/apps/details/us.zoom.Zoom

It will pull in the freedesktop runtime, which contains the required
libraries. No need to fiddle with LD_PRELOAD and the like.
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Re: [CentOS] Tomcat or what on CentOS 8?

2020-04-28 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 28 Apr, 2020 at 11:44:20 +0200, Simon Matter via CentOS wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We're running some web apps on CentOS 6 on Tomcat 6 shipped by the
> distribution.
> 
> As time goes by we'd like to move on to CentOS 8 and Tomcat 9 or whatever
> is appropriate.
> 
> My question is, what do others use now that Tomcat is not shipped anymore
> with CentOS?
> 
> Do you run some JBoss/WildFly instead or still running Tomcat?
> 
> And, how do you install/manage those installations. Do you have RPM
> packaged versions or fiddle with tarballs?
> 
> Since this is a quite standard setup for web apps I'm really wondering how
> everybody is doing it these days?

I use the tarball provided by upstream on CentOS 7, since the
distro-provided version is quite old. I created a 'tomcat' system user
and gave it ownership of the extracted files under /opt. I also wrote a
simple systemd unit file to manage the service in the usual way.

If you take that approach be sure to subscribe to the tomcat-announce
list in order to receive update announcements.
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Re: [CentOS] running app panel overflows

2020-04-19 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Sun, 19 Apr, 2020 at 10:58:34 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> I'm running Centos 7 with gnome.
> After 32 running applications,
> the panel at the bottom overflows.
> There seems to be no scrolling mechanism.
> How if at all can I see the overflow?

I'm not aware of a way to group windows when running GNOME in classic
mode, which is the default in CentOS 7. However, if you use GNOME in
standard mode with the 'Window list' extension enabled, you can
configure that extension to group windows.

You could also enable the 'Application list' and 'Places status
indicator' extensions in standard mode to make the environment more
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 and xhost

2020-04-18 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Sun, 19 Apr, 2020 at 15:14:49 -0700, Jerry Geis wrote:
> I am trying to run 'xhost +'  on CentOS 8 (such that I can grab a screen
> shot)
> but its not letting me.
> 
> On boot of X I run the "xhost +"
> then later with SSH into hte box - I run
> export DISPLAY=:0.0
> gnome-screenshot -f jj.png
> and I get the cannot open display message.
> 
> This works on the older CentOS 7.  What is the magic for C8?
> Thanks,
> 
> Jerry

CentOS 8 runs GNOME on Wayland by default. X forwarding cannot work in
those circumstances. To change that, choose "GNOME on Xorg" after
clicking on the gear icon on the login screen.

I recommend running ssh with the -X or -Y flags when connecting to the
remote box. It's more secure than using 'xhost +'.
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Re: [CentOS] Zoom?

2020-04-10 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 10 Apr, 2020 at 11:16:50 +0100, Gary Stainburn wrote:
> For those of you who are not aware, Zoom have issued an update to their app 
> on all platforms.
> 
> I believe this is to fix a number of security issues so I strongly suggest 
> everyone to upgrade.  Older versions had a number of flaws in that area.

Another reason to favour the flatpak repo. Upgrades are pushed by the
maintainers there in the same way as through your distro's repos.
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Re: [CentOS] Zoom?

2020-04-09 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 09 Apr, 2020 at 13:31:10 +, Leroy Tennison wrote:
> I'm on Ubuntu and, no, it doesn't work.

I suggest you consult an Ubuntu mailing list. Supplying a bit more
information than "it doesn't work" will allow people on that list to
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Re: [CentOS] Zoom?

2020-04-09 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Sun, 05 Apr, 2020 at 18:34:36 -0400, mark wrote:
> Hi, folks,
> 
>After I did a complete reinstall of current 7, with KDE instead of
> minimal, I'm mostly ok... except for Zoom. Has anyone gotten sound working
> with firefox? I get video, but it keeps claiming that my browser (the
> default firefox) can't access the system sound.
> 
>Given that even as I type this, I'm streaming WUMB through its player
> I have noScript, but I enabled everything (except google-analytics), and no
> joy. I'd *really* rather use my browser than trust their app
> 
>   mark

I recommend installing Zoom as a flatpak:

https://flathub.org/apps/details/us.zoom.Zoom

It works well and is sandboxed to some extent at least.
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Re: [CentOS] Windows 10 as guest on Centos 8

2020-04-03 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 03 Apr, 2020 at 00:49:30 +0300, Georgios wrote:
> Hi there!
> Im trying to install windows 10 as a guest on Centos 8.1
> I tried with cockpit and with boxes and both times my computer freezes
> during installation.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 

cockpit is intended as a replacement for virt-manager. When it fails, I
suggest you fall back on the tried-and-tested approach.
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Re: [CentOS] Upgraded to 7.10 from 6...

2020-04-03 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 02 Apr, 2020 at 18:19:53 -0400, mark wrote:

[...]

> What have I missed?

The fact that upgrades between major versions are not supported.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 27 Mar, 2020 at 13:33:02 -0600, R C wrote:
> just to piss off people like you,
> 
> 
> you might know the type, they never really answer any questions, lurk around
> on a forum like this
> 
> acting like a (self-proclaimed) genius lecturing and patronizing people, as
> if they have to be worthy
> 
> to get an answer from you (which you typically never do anyway), formulated
> by your delusional standards.
> 
> If your mindset is like that, why don't you just not answer to begin with,
> nobody is really interested would
> 
> be my best bet.
> 
> 
> and no, my idea of minimal is not 3GB, try and read the thread again.

You stated: "minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so".

> However your personality comes to mind.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/27/20 9:35 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:39:56 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > well,  sorry,  I thought it was somewhat "self-explaining", since that
> > > terminology was used up until Centos 7 (see
> > > 
> > > links), andof course I meant the official download page.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so that fits on a regular 4-5Gb rewritable 
> > > DVD
> > > as with Centos 7
> > > 
> > > download from : https://www.centos.org/download/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > anything else blatantly obvious you need me to have spelled out?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ron
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 3/26/20 6:27 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > is there a minimal install for Centos 8?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ron
> > > > > 
> > > > What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
> > > > provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.
> > Yes, perhaps you could explain to us why you are top posting.
> > 
> > So your idea of minimal is 3GB. Mine is much less. The minimal ISO of 
> > CentOS 7 is < 1GB:
> > 
> > http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/centos/7.7.1908/isos/x86_64/
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 two installs one is X and one is Xwayland

2020-03-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 27 Mar, 2020 at 08:55:42 -0400, Jerry Geis wrote:
> HI All,
> 
> I have two installs of CentOS 8. One is a VM and uses what sees as the OLD
> X as I get /var/log/X* files ... the other is on a real machine and seems
> to be using Xwayland and I  have no /var/log/X* files.
> 
> Couple things:
> 1) The VM is using qxl driver it seems. I do not see Xwayland running.
> 2) Xwayland is running on the physical box - and where are log files for it.
> 
> Surprised its running two different ways.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jerry

Wayland is disabled when the qxl driver is in use:

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8/html-single/using_the_desktop_environment_in_rhel_8/index#gnome-environments_starting-using-gnome
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:39:56 -0600, R C wrote:
> well,  sorry,  I thought it was somewhat "self-explaining", since that
> terminology was used up until Centos 7 (see
> 
> links), andof course I meant the official download page.
> 
> 
> minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so that fits on a regular 4-5Gb rewritable DVD
> as with Centos 7
> 
> download from : https://www.centos.org/download/
> 
> 
> 
> anything else blatantly obvious you need me to have spelled out?
> 
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/26/20 6:27 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > is there a minimal install for Centos 8?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'
> > > 
> > > 
> > > thanks,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ron
> > > 
> > What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
> > provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.

Yes, perhaps you could explain to us why you are top posting.

So your idea of minimal is 3GB. Mine is much less. The minimal ISO of CentOS 7 
is < 1GB:

http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/centos/7.7.1908/isos/x86_64/
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-26 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 
> is there a minimal install for Centos 8?
> 
> 
> What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> 
> Ron
> 

What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.
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Re: [CentOS] QEMU virt-manager video device

2020-03-09 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Mon, 09 Mar, 2020 at 11:22:38 -0400, Jerry Geis wrote:
> > install spice-vdagent
> Thanks - I installed the above. rebooted I only have 800x600 still.
> I have the video set for QXL
> 
> Jerry

Is the agent running? Check using 'systemctl status spice-vdagentd.service'.
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Re: [CentOS] QEMU virt-manager video device

2020-03-09 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Mon, 09 Mar, 2020 at 10:02:04 -0400, Jerry Geis wrote:
> I am trying to use the Video Virtio device and set it to Virtio (to get
> resolutions higher that 800x600).
> My host is CentOS 7 and my guest is CentOS 8.
> When I set the virtio for video - I get an add about QEMU does not support
> 'virtio' video device.
> 
> Do I not have something loaded ? Real question is how to get video higher
> than 800x600. I tried every selection there Cirrus , QXL, VGA, VMVGA and
> virtio.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jerry

I'm running a CentOS 8 guest with QXL at high resolution. The trick is
to install spice-vdagent in the guest, and reboot.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-03-03 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 03 Mar, 2020 at 15:31:24 -0500, Jerry Geis wrote:
> This package used to be in CentOS 7 - does not seem to be there in 8.
> Thoughts ?
> Thanks
> 
> Jerry

It's in the Appstream repo. Is that enabled in your case?
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Re: [CentOS] SQL modeling tool for CentOS 7

2020-02-20 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 20 Feb, 2020 at 16:36:51 -0500, H wrote:
> On 02/16/2020 10:47 PM, Bee.Lists wrote:
> > Sequel ORM
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 16, 2020, at 7:28 PM, H  wrote:
> >>
> >> I am looking for an open-source SQL modeling tool to use with MySQL, 
> >> MariaDB and PostgreSQL. Does anyone have a favorite?
> >
> >
> > Cheers, Bee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> I looked at Sequel ORM but it seems to be a Ruby database toolkit supporting 
> various SQL databases? If so, this is not what I am looking for since I might 
> as well be writing the SQL statements directly.
> 
> I am hoping to use a graphical database manager where I can design a 
> database, all the tables, relationships etc.
> 

I use DBeaver, packaged as a Flatpak, when I want a graphical database tool. 
Quite versatile.

https://flathub.org/apps/details/io.dbeaver.DBeaverCommunity
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8: change desktop at display manager

2020-01-20 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Sun, 19 Jan, 2020 at 13:21:28 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote:
> In a new install of Centos 8, I installed the xfce4 packages from EPEL.
> Here's what dnf says I have
> 
> [pauljohn32@localhost ~]$ dnf list *xfce4*
> Last metadata expiration check: 0:25:19 ago
> Installed Packages
> libxfce4ui.x86_64
> libxfce4ui-devel.x86_64
> libxfce4util.x86_64
> libxfce4util-devel.x86_64
> xfce4-about.x86_64
> xfce4-battery-plugin.x86_64
> xfce4-panel.x86_64
> xfce4-panel-devel.x86_64
> xfce4-places-plugin.x86_64
> xfce4-screenshooter.x86_64
> xfce4-screenshooter-plugin.x86_64
> xfce4-session.x86_64
> xfce4-settings.x86_64
> xfce4-systemload-plugin.x86_64
> xfce4-terminal.x86_64
> 
> I log out and try to use XFCE4 at log in. I cannot find a way to choose
> it.  I was guessing this would be like Centos 7.  On the display manager,
> after I put in my user name, there is the little * by the password. When I
> do that, I see choices with names like
> 
> Wayland
> Classic
> X11
> 
> but I don't see XFCE4 session or similar.
> 
> I am guessing I missed an XFCE4 package from EPEL?
> 
> pj
> 

Sometimes I find that I have to restart gdm in this situation.
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Re: [CentOS] Possible Font problem with CentOS 7

2019-11-06 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Wed, 06 Nov, 2019 at 19:45:22 +, Tony Molloy wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've got a possible font problem with a fully updated CentOS 7 system.
> 
> An example with the man command.
> 
> #man kill
> 
> Should return the following
> 
> KILL(1) User Commands   KILL(1)
> 
> NAME
>kill - terminate a process
> 
> SYNOPSIS
>kill [-s signal|-p] [-q sigval] [-a] [--] pid...
>kill -l [signal]
> 
> 
> but what I actually get is the following
> 
> KILL(1)   User CommandsKILL(1)
> 
> 
>kill - terminate a process
> 
> 
> [ signal| ] [ sigval] [ ] [ ] pid...
> [signal]
> 
> Notice the missing text.
> 
> If I select the text and paste it into an editor I see the missing
> text. So it's there just not displaying on the screen.
> 
> I also notice the effect with links embedded in e-mails. I use
> evolution. Embedded links do not appear in the e-mail but if I hover
> over a link location then it appears in the text box at the bottom of
> the page and I can select it.
> 
> I suspect I'm missing some common font(s).
> 
> Any ideas.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tony

Greetings from Cork.

What terminal emulator are you using? Assuming it's gnome-terminal (the 
default), what
is the output of the commands

gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name

and

fc-match monospace

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Re: [CentOS] How to add an application icon?

2019-10-05 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Sat, 05 Oct, 2019 at 15:18:38 +0300, Александр Кириллов wrote:
> How to add an application icon to gnome 3 classic desktop on centos 8?
> TIA

Using firefox as an example,

cp /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop $(xdg-user-dir DESKTOP)/

or

ln -s /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop $(xdg-user-dir DESKTOP)/
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Re: [CentOS] upgrading from CentOS 7 to 8

2019-10-01 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 01 Oct, 2019 at 13:57:19 -0400, MAILIST wrote:
> After 40 years of upgrading many different operating systems,
> Windows (from 3.1 to 10), CentOS 6 to 8, Ubuntu, Fedora, Red Hat,
> AT Unix, VAX VMS; I have never observed an upgrade from one major
> version to the next to work.  The last one I tried using their "upgrade
> process" was Ubuntu 18 to 19.  Didn't work.

I've been running Debian stable on various machines over the course of
about 17 years. I have *never* had to reinstall.
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Re: [CentOS] SquidGuard update in EPEL

2019-10-01 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Mon, 30 Sep, 2019 at 23:47:02 -0700, John Pierce wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 10:26 PM Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> > Le 30/09/2019 à 17:53, Gwaland a écrit :
> > > looks like it was updated due to a segfault.
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750550
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1253662
> >
> > Now I'm even more puzzled.
> >
> > Fedora and EPEL sport SquidGuard 1.4.36.
> >
> > Now when you search for "squidguard", this seems to be the project site:
> >
> >   * http://squidguard.org/index.html
> >
> > This page hasn't been updated in ages and sports the "NEW" version 1.3.
> >
> > So apparently the project has been developed somewhere under the radar.
> >
> >
> > huh, wikipedia says 1.4 came out in Jan 2009, over 10 years ago.  yet it
> says thats the official site...
> 
> debian has squidguard 1.5-5
> https://packages.debian.org/source/stretch/squidguard

[...]

FWIW, the current release has squidguard 1.6
https://packages.debian.org/source/stable/squidguard
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Liam O'Toole

On 25/09/2019 03:12, Fred Smith wrote:

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:54:34PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 14:48:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100
Liam O'Toole wrote:


If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a
showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for
you.


That may be, but in view of the fact that you can even get a version of CDE 
that works (very well) on Centos 7 (https://github.com/dcantrell/cderpm if 
you're interested), I find it difficult to believe that a widely used and 
mature desktop like Mate will just disappear on a widely used and mature Linux 
distribution like Centos.



I'm not suggesting that it will. A few years ago, soon after the source
code of CDE was released, I downloaded, compiled, and installed CDE in a
CentOS 6 VM. Why? Because I could. But would I conduct any serious
business in that environment? Of course not. And why is that? Because it
receives no enterprise support.


And since I've been using Centos for everything for a lot of years I'm not in a 
hurry to change to something else if I can avoid it.


  Providing and maintaining
alternative desktop environments over the (long) life cycle of CentOS 8
will require a sustained effort by volunteers over many years.


If that isn't being organized by someone at this time, I would be frankly 
surprised.


It could well be that someone is organising it. On the other hand, it
could be not. Either way, it will not be supported by RHEL and CentOS.
What happens when a critical vulnerability is discovered in that
software? Who will notify you of it? Who will fix it?

At the time of writing, Mate in EPEL 7 is still at version 1.16. The
upstream version is at 1.22. Have any critical vulnerabilities been
fixed in the meantime? I have no idea. Do you?


Nope.

OTOH, if I was forced to use Gnome, I may well go shoot myself.


Like they say, Linux is all about choice. :-)
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 18:08:08 -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 02:48:57PM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100
> > Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > 
> > > If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a
> > > showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for
> > > you.
> > 
> > That may be, but in view of the fact that you can even get a version of CDE 
> > that works (very well) on Centos 7 (https://github.com/dcantrell/cderpm if 
> > you're interested), I find it difficult to believe that a widely used and 
> > mature desktop like Mate will just disappear on a widely used and mature 
> > Linux distribution like Centos.
> > 
> > And since I've been using Centos for everything for a lot of years I'm not 
> > in a hurry to change to something else if I can avoid it.
> > 
> 
> Amen! Hear, Hear!
> 

Yeah. If you could transform your religious fervour into code, that
would be great.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 14:48:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100
> Liam O'Toole wrote:
> 
> > If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a
> > showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for
> > you.
> 
> That may be, but in view of the fact that you can even get a version of CDE 
> that works (very well) on Centos 7 (https://github.com/dcantrell/cderpm if 
> you're interested), I find it difficult to believe that a widely used and 
> mature desktop like Mate will just disappear on a widely used and mature 
> Linux distribution like Centos.
> 

I'm not suggesting that it will. A few years ago, soon after the source
code of CDE was released, I downloaded, compiled, and installed CDE in a
CentOS 6 VM. Why? Because I could. But would I conduct any serious
business in that environment? Of course not. And why is that? Because it
receives no enterprise support.

> And since I've been using Centos for everything for a lot of years I'm not in 
> a hurry to change to something else if I can avoid it.
> 
> >  Providing and maintaining
> > alternative desktop environments over the (long) life cycle of CentOS 8
> > will require a sustained effort by volunteers over many years.
> 
> If that isn't being organized by someone at this time, I would be frankly 
> surprised.

It could well be that someone is organising it. On the other hand, it
could be not. Either way, it will not be supported by RHEL and CentOS.
What happens when a critical vulnerability is discovered in that
software? Who will notify you of it? Who will fix it?

At the time of writing, Mate in EPEL 7 is still at version 1.16. The
upstream version is at 1.22. Have any critical vulnerabilities been
fixed in the meantime? I have no idea. Do you?
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 16:29:41 -0400, mark wrote:
> Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 13:41:08 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> >
> >> Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any
> >> update on the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released?
> >>
> >> I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it, but the lack of
> >> Mate is kind of  a showstopper for me at the moment.
> >>
> > If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a
> > showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for you.
> > RHEL 8 has dropped KDE, never mind Mate. Providing and maintaining
> 
> WHAT?!?!?!
> 
> I *loathe* gnome, and it just keeps getting more bloated and worse.
> 
> When I'm ready to install 8, I'll have to see if icewm is updated for it.
> 

Please do not quote me selectively. I wrote:

> If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a
> showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for
> you. RHEL 8 has dropped KDE, never mind Mate. Providing and maintaining
> alternative desktop environments over the (long) life cycle of CentOS 8
> will require a sustained effort by volunteers over many years. I
> wouldn't count on $PREFERRED_DESKTOP_ENVIRONMENT continuing to be
> available over that time frame.

If your $PREFERRED_DESKTOP_ENVIRONMENT is icewm, then the above still
applies.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 13:41:08 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on 
> the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released?
> 
> I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it, but the lack of Mate is 
> kind of  a showstopper for me at the moment.
> 

If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a
showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for
you. RHEL 8 has dropped KDE, never mind Mate. Providing and maintaining
alternative desktop environments over the (long) life cycle of CentOS 8
will require a sustained effort by volunteers over many years. I
wouldn't count on $PREFERRED_DESKTOP_ENVIRONMENT continuing to be
available over that time frame.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, skype ceased functioning

2019-05-05 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2019-05-04, soko.tica
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been using CentOS 7 on a laptop for a while now (about two years),
> using skypeforlinux all the time.
>
> After today's update, skype ceased to start as a service, as it used to be
> configured. It fails to start manually, e.g., it does start and is listed
> as a job, but it doesn't appear visible on the desktop.
>
> In the case you know something about it, please let us all know.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> [brn@hekuba ~]$ uname -a
> Linux hekuba.home.lan 3.10.0-693.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Aug 22 21:09:27 UTC
> 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

It's unlikely that the Skype developers have done much testing on CentOS
7 specifically. You might have better luck with the flathub version[1]
which uses a common runtime across all distros.

1: https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.skype.Client


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Re: [CentOS] When will CentOS 8 be available for download?

2019-04-12 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2019-04-11, Laack, Andrea P
 wrote:

> RHEL 8 will be released during Redhat summit May 7-9.  
>
> Andrea
>

Is there an official Red Hat announcement to that effect?

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Re: [CentOS] gpg?

2019-03-01 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2019-02-28, Christian, Mark  wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-02-27 at 19:39 -0500, mark wrote:
>> I just wanted to set up to send an encrypted message, so I went to
>> generate a 
>> public/private key pair using gpg on C 6.
>> 
>> Version 2.0.14, copyright 2009?
>> 
>> Isn't there something newer than 10 years old?
>
> Don't mistake copyright for build date.
>
> Try:
>
> "rpm -qfi $(which gpg)" for your answer.
>
> Mark

Don't mistake build date for change date:

head -n 1 $(rpm -qfd $(which gpg) | grep ChangeLog)

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Re: [CentOS] centos dfcp send hostname to microsoft dhcp/dns

2019-01-30 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2019-01-30, Ralf Prengel  wrote:
>
> Zitat von Liam O'Toole :
>
>> On 2019-01-29, Ralf Prengel  wrote:
>>> Hallo,
>>> thanks but this doesn t work here allthough most tips and hints are  
>>> using this parameter.
>>> Any idea how to debug ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Ralf
>>>
>>> Von meinem iPad gesendet
>>
>> Please don't top-post.
>
> Sorry,
> my fault.
>
>>
>> Try running 'dhclient -H  ' from the commanad line.
>> Make sure that the network interface is down first.
>
> Here the logfile.
> Thanks for your help
>
> Ralf
>

[...]

I see you're using network-manager. Does the file
/var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-.conf contain a line
beginning with 'send host-name'?

Also, please stop network-manager and issue the command I gave you
previously.

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Re: [CentOS] centos dfcp send hostname to microsoft dhcp/dns

2019-01-29 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2019-01-29, Ralf Prengel  wrote:
> Hallo,
> thanks but this doesn t work here allthough most tips and hints are using 
> this parameter.
> Any idea how to debug ?
>
> Thanks
> Ralf
>
> Von meinem iPad gesendet

Please don't top-post.

Try running 'dhclient -H  ' from the commanad line.
Make sure that the network interface is down first.

>
>> Am 29.01.2019 um 18:08 schrieb Liam O'Toole :
>> 
>>> On 2019-01-29, Ralf Prengel  wrote:
>>> Hallo,
>>> 
>>> I try to configure my dhcp-client to send the hostname to a microsoft  
>>> dns/dhcp server.
>>> It doesn t work. Nothing happens.
>>> A debian system works fine so it seems that the microsoft-side isn t  
>>> the problem this time.
>>> I found some hints but nothing works.
>>> 
>>> Thansk for hints.
>>> 
>>> Ralf
>> 
>> I have used the following approach successfully in the past:
>> 
>> https://possiblelossofprecision.net/?p=1377
>> 
>> More recently, on systems running Network Manager, I find that it's no
>> longer necessary.
>> 
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Re: [CentOS] centos dfcp send hostname to microsoft dhcp/dns

2019-01-29 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2019-01-29, Ralf Prengel  wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I try to configure my dhcp-client to send the hostname to a microsoft  
> dns/dhcp server.
> It doesn t work. Nothing happens.
> A debian system works fine so it seems that the microsoft-side isn t  
> the problem this time.
> I found some hints but nothing works.
>
> Thansk for hints.
>
> Ralf

I have used the following approach successfully in the past:

https://possiblelossofprecision.net/?p=1377

More recently, on systems running Network Manager, I find that it's no
longer necessary.

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Re: [CentOS] upgrading 7.5 ==> 7.6

2018-12-21 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-12-19, Fred Smith
 wrote:

[...]

> Result: Boots to GDM just fine, but Mate is a black screen. Switching
> to Gnome, works fine, but I can't stand Gnome.  Not knowing what else 
> to try I restored the dd backup.

This is a known issue, and was mentioned on this list recently. The
problem is that Mate in EPEL needs to be updated to work with CentOS
7.6. Perhaps keep an eye on changes to the EPEL repo before attempting
the upgrade again.

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Re: [CentOS] Still getting Dropbox warning at login after uninstalling Dropbox

2018-12-08 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-12-06, Gary Stainburn
 wrote:
> Lke many people I have received the message from Dropbox about their
> changes including the non-support for the old Linux RPM.
>
> As I no longer use Dropbox I thought I would just remove the
> nautilus-dropbox RPM.
>
> However, I am still receiving the warning every time I log in.  Can
> anyone tell me what I need to do to stop this please.
>
> Gary

Look in ~/.config/autostart. Delete or move anything related to Dropbox.

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Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-04 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-11-03, Alice Wonder
 wrote:
> What really did me in when I was trying to like it, the scroll bars
> were gone and I was told they could be put back in place with
> configuration.  So I tried to find the configuration option and
> couldn't find it. Then I was told that I had to hand-code CSS to get
> them back.

All you need is

export GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0

No need for CSS hand-coding.

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Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-04 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-11-02, Valeri Galtsev
 wrote:
>
>
> On 11/2/18 3:02 PM, Frank Cox wrote:
>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/
>> 
>> That's still several years in the future, of course.
>> 
>> I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm
>> sure many of you fine folks do the same.
>
> It probably is just us, older folk who use Mate everywhere. There are
> two ways to put it:
>
> I still have enough brain to be able to categorize, and find what I
> need in menu tree
>
> or
>
> I didn't blend into iPad generation to access things through search
> only (and I do not intend to ask google how much money I have left in
> my wallet ;-)
>
> Thanks to nice guys who forked Mate off Gnome and are maintaining it!!
>
> Valeri
>

The traditional, hierarchichal application menu is also available in
GNOME 3.

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Re: [CentOS] Can't access Samba shares from Nautilus

2018-10-19 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-10-19, Nicolas Kovacs
 wrote:
> Le 19/10/2018 à 10:30, Nicolas Kovacs a écrit :
>> Any idea what's missing here or why this doesn't work as expected ?
>
> OK, I've investigated this a little further, and it looks like I have
> a partial success.
>
> In Nautilus, I pressed Ctrl+L and then typed in the Samba server URL:
>
> smb://amandine
>
> Now my two shares ("Public" and "Confidentiel") appeared OK in
> Nautilus.  I could mount them and browse them perfectly.
>
> So it looks like there's something that prevents my server (amandine)
> from showing up in Nautilus when I click on "Browse network". Hmmm.
>
> Any suggestions ?
>
> Niki
>

Is avahi-daemon running on the client? That's what provides service
discovery.

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Re: [CentOS] How to install Banshee on CentOS 7?

2018-10-04 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-10-02, MRob  wrote:
> on centos 7 I tried to install banshee from EPEL
>
> yum install banshee
>
> gotting this error:
>
> Error: Package: banshee-2.6.2-11.el7.x86_64 (epel)
> Requires: libgpod-sharp >= 0.8.2
>   You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
>   You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
>
> seems known problem but ignored to fix it in a year or more:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1406012
>
> I tried "yum insall --skip-broken banshee" however this will skip 
> banshee itself! lol
>
> what else can I do to install banshee?

Your best bet is to talk to the maintainer of banshee in epel.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + MATE : Folder contents not refreshed in file manager

2018-07-21 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-07-20, Nicolas Kovacs
 wrote:
> Le 13/07/2018 à 21:57, Liam O'Toole a écrit :
>> What do you see in /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches? If you
>> increase the value, does the problem persist?
>
> I investigated this, and indeed, it solved my problem.
>
> I wrote a little blog article to summarize my findings and put you in
> the Thank You notes.
>
> https://blog.microlinux.fr/inotify/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niki
>

Je vous en prie. :)

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Re: [CentOS] Font related problems with recent FF 60.1

2018-07-15 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-07-15, Kay Schenk
 wrote:
> When I start FF from command line, I'm getting a lot of errors similar
> to these --
>
> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" Gtk-Message:
> Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load
> module "canberra-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module
> "pk-gtk-module" Fontconfig warning:
> "/etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf", line 84: Having multiple
>  in  isn't supported and may not work as expected
> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf", line
> 84: Having multiple  in  isn't supported and may not
> work as expected Fontconfig warning:
> "/etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf", line 93: Having multiple
>  in  isn't supported and may not work as expected
> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf", line
> 93: Having multiple  in  isn't supported and may not
> work as expected Fontconfig warning:
> "/etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf", line 102: Having multiple
>  in  isn't supported and may not work as expected
> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf", line
> 102: Having multiple  in  isn't supported and may not
> work as expected Fontconfig warning:
> "/etc/fonts/conf.d/40-nonlatin.conf", line 33: Having multiple
>  in  isn't supported and may not work as expected
> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/40-nonlatin.conf", line 33:
> Having multiple  in  isn't supported and may not work
> as expected
>
> This version of FF doesn't seem to be happy  with my current font
> setup in CentOS 6.10. 
>

The warnings appear to come from fontconfig, not firefox. Do you see
something similar when you launch, say, gedit from the command line?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 + MATE : Folder contents not refreshed in file manager

2018-07-13 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-07-09, Nicolas Kovacs
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just migrated my workstation running CentOS 7 from KDE to MATE.
>
> It looks like I'm having the same problem with the Caja file manager
> than with Dolphin. Folder contents don't get refreshed automatically,
> and I have to hit F5.
>
> For example, when I download a file (say, a compressed archive) from
> the Internet, I have to hit F5 to see the file in Caja. And when I
> extract the archive, I have to hit F5 again.
>
> Anybody knows where this nagging problem comes from?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niki

What do you see in /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches? If you
increase the value, does the problem persist?

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Re: [CentOS] Help with yum

2018-04-13 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-04-13, Paul R. Ganci
 wrote:

[...]

> Then it was just a matter of:
>
> > yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop"
> > systemctl set-default graphical.target
> > reboot
>
> Voila... I have a desktop running MATE!

Glad you got it working.

I thought I'd mention that the reboot is not strictly necessary. The
command

yum isolate graphical.target

will switch the system immediately to the named target.

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Re: [CentOS] Help with yum

2018-04-12 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-04-12, Paul R. Ganci
 wrote:
> I just did a fresh minimal install of centos 7 on new hardware. While
> playing around with window systems I removed X windows like so:
>
> >yum remove "X Window system"
>
> and then tried to re install
>
> >yum group install "X Window system"
>
> which gives this error:
>
> Maybe run: yum groups mark install (see man yum) No packages in any
> requested group available to install or upgrade
>
> I tried running:
>
> >yum groups mark install "X Window system"
>
> and get the same message. I tried different permutations removing the
> "s" on groups. Nothing seems to bring back the yum "X Window system"
> group. Can anyone help me resolve this issue and tell me what I did
> wrong?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>

Try

yum group install "X Window System"

Note the capital 'S'.

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Re: [CentOS] Semi-OT: install python package in userspace

2018-04-09 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-04-09, Valeri Galtsev
 wrote:
>
>
> On 04/09/18 11:15, Paul Heinlein wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Apr 2018, Pete Biggs wrote:
>> 
 Does CentOS changed the package management? :-)
>>>
>>> Quite.
>>>
>>> This is not an Ubuntu dig, but when I challenge some of the users
>>> about the more dangerous sudo's they try, inevitably they say they
>>> got the command from the net, and by that they usually mean Ubuntu
>>> forums.
>> 
>> Whether the instructions come from the Ubuntu forums or not, we
>> regularly experience the same thing: users unthinkingly following
>> instructions in a REAME or posted on a web page. My experience
>> suggests these folks are just on autopilot.
>
> Sadly, people became zombies. The ability to categorize (hence use the
> menu) is wiped completely. Even the majority of "modern" Desktop
> Environment interfaces expect you to search for what you need instead
> of giving the menu: everything arranged by category. That's why I
> switched to MATE quite a while ago. I guess, I didn't blend in into
> iPad generation...

[...]

Both GNOME and KDE Plasma offer you a menu of applications by category,
if that is what you want. I don't see the problem.

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Re: [CentOS] a few simple questions about upgrading an "official" centos 7 release

2018-02-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-02-22, Robert P. J. Day
 wrote:
>
>   again, some fairly trivial(?) questions about working with centos
>   7.4, given my time immersed in fedora so i want to make sure i'm not
>   carrying over any bad habits.
>
>   first, is there anything untoward in updating an installed version
>   of centos 7.4 with a simple "yum update"? i'm well aware of keeping
>   in mind the goal of stability with centos, so am unsure what the
>   philosophy is of pulling in new updates as cavalierly as i do with
>   fedora. currently, "yum list updates" shows me 206 possible updates;
>   should i have any concern about updating packages coming from the
>   standard centos repos?

No. The updates provided over an x.y series are relatively minor and
generally well tested. It's very different to the version churn
associated with Fedora. The updates also include important security
fixes, and it's not advisable to try to apply those in isolation. But I
would add the usual caveat: if you're doing anything business-critical
with your installation, test the upgrade on comparable hardware first.

>
>   next, are there any issues replacing yum wihth dnf? i found this
> piece:
>
> https://www.vultr.com/docs/use-dnf-to-manage-software-packages-on-centos-7
>
> which suggests it shouldn't be a problem. thoughts?

Being from the EPEL repository, dnf is not supported by CentOS. So I
would avoid using it on a machine which serves a critical function.

>   finally, any concerns i should have about upgrading the kernel from
> 3.10 to 4.14 or 4.15, as explained in a number of places like this:
>
> https://www.tecmint.com/install-upgrade-kernel-version-in-centos-7/
>
>   i simply prefer to run a current kernel but i can resist the
> temptation if upgrading that on a centos 7.4 system would introduce
> more problems than are worth it.
>
>   thoughts?

Again, EL Repo packages are not supported by CentOS. Therefore the above
warnings apply here too.

If, on the other hand, you can afford to tinker with the system and
experiment a bit, then go for it. Oh, and welcome to the CentOS
community.

>
> rday

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Re: [CentOS] Problem with ssh disconnecting

2018-02-13 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-02-13, H <age...@meddatainc.com> wrote:
> On 02/12/2018 07:24 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> On 2018-02-12, H <age...@meddatainc.com> wrote:
>>> Running CentOS 7 on workstation and having a problem with ssh
>>> disconnects. My ssh_config contains:
>>>
>>> Host *
>>> TCPKeepAlive yes
>>> ServerAliveInterval 30
>>> ServerAliveCountMax 300
>>>
>>> and sshd_config on the server contains:
>>>
>>> TCPKeepAlive yes
>>> ClientAliveInterval 60
>>> ClientAliveCountMax 300
>>>
>>> Have I missed any setting needed to prevent these random disconnects?
>>> I don't think there is anything wrong with the network card, the
>>> driver, or the cable, since if I am on a VPN connection via another
>>> server, the VPN and any ssh connection stay up indefinitely.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>> Another poster has provided some possible reasons for the
>> disconnections. Whatever the cause, autossh (from the epel repo) is a
>> good workaround.
>>
> Not that this happens while I do large scp file transfers that may
> take more than half an hour, simply restarting an ssh session is not
> going to help since I will lose the file transfer.

In that case sftp with the '-a' option would be a better choice.

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Re: [CentOS] Problem with ssh disconnecting

2018-02-12 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-02-12, H  wrote:
> Running CentOS 7 on workstation and having a problem with ssh
> disconnects. My ssh_config contains:
>
> Host *
> TCPKeepAlive yes
> ServerAliveInterval 30
> ServerAliveCountMax 300
>
> and sshd_config on the server contains:
>
> TCPKeepAlive yes
> ClientAliveInterval 60
> ClientAliveCountMax 300
>
> Have I missed any setting needed to prevent these random disconnects?
> I don't think there is anything wrong with the network card, the
> driver, or the cable, since if I am on a VPN connection via another
> server, the VPN and any ssh connection stay up indefinitely.
>
> Thanks.

Another poster has provided some possible reasons for the
disconnections. Whatever the cause, autossh (from the epel repo) is a
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Re: [CentOS] libsmbclient conflict problem

2018-02-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-02-11, m...@tdiehl.org
<m...@tdiehl.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>
>> On 2018-02-06, m...@tdiehl.org
>> <m...@tdiehl.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a c-6 machine that I noticed the following on:
>>>
>>> (bugs pts10) # package-cleanup --problems Loaded plugins:
>>> fastestmirror, priorities, refresh-packagekit Package
>>> system-config-printer-libs-1.1.16-26.el6.x86_64 requires
>>> libsmbclient.so.0()(64bit) Package
>>> kdebase-runtime-libs-4.3.4-9.el6.x86_64 requires
>>> libsmbclient.so.0()(64bit)
>>>
>>> So then I ran:
>>>
>>> (bugs pts10) # yum install libsmbclient
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Error: samba4-winbind conflicts with samba-winbind-3.6.23-46el6_9.x86_64
>>> Error: samba4-winbind-clients conflicts with 
>>> samba-winbind-clients-3.6.23-46el6_9.x86_64
>>> Error: samba4-common conflicts with samba-common-3.6.23-46el6_9.x86_64
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> The error messages above tell you what the problem is: there is a
>> conflict between the installed samba4 packages and the samba3 packages
>> you are trying to install. It looks like someone uninstalled various
>> samba3 packages using rpm (instead of yum), probably in order to install
>> samba4, but breaking dependencies of other packages in the process.
>
> That would be me. I uninstalled the samba 3 packages because I need the
> functionality of the samba4 packages and the samba 3 protocols are insecure.
>
>>> I have the following samba packages installed:
>>>
>>> (bugs pts10) # rpm -qa samba4\*
>>> samba4-winbind-clients-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
>>> samba4-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
>>> samba4-client-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
>>> samba4-common-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
>>> samba4-winbind-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
>>> samba4-libs-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
>>> (bugs pts10)
>>>
>>> Can someone tell me what what I need to do to resolve the above conflicts?
>>
>> Do you need to keep the samba4 packages?
>
> Yes.
>
>> They do not appear to be co-installable with samba3.
>
> Agreed!!
>
> In looking at this a little more it appears to me that there is a provides
> missing from the samba4 packages.
>
> I ran the following on another machine with the samba4 packages installed:

[...]

> --> Processing Conflict: samba4-common-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64 conflicts 
> samba-common < 3.9.9
> --> Processing Conflict: samba4-winbind-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64 conflicts 
> samba-winbind < 3.9.9
> --> Processing Conflict: samba4-winbind-clients-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64 
> conflicts samba-winbind-clients < 3.9.9
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: samba4-winbind conflicts with samba-winbind-3.6.23-46el6_9.x86_64
> Error: samba4-winbind-clients conflicts with 
> samba-winbind-clients-3.6.23-46el6_9.x86_64
> Error: samba4-common conflicts with samba-common-3.6.23-46el6_9.x86_64
>   You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
>   You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> (cg2 pts17)
> --> Processing Dependency: libwbclient.so.0()(64bit) for package: 
> libsmbclient-3.6.23-46el6_9.x86_64
>
> As you can see above, the the resolver totally ignores the fact that
> the samba4 packages are installed and tries to pull in the samba 3
> packages. This smells like a packaging bug to me but I could be wrong.
>
> Can anyone confirm or deny this?
>
> Regards,
>

I think it goes a bit deeper than a missing provides (in the packaging
sense). Only samba3 contains libwbclient.so.0:

$ yum resolvedep libwbclient.so.0
0:samba-winbind-clients-3.6.23-46el6_9.i686

That can be verified using repoquery (from the package yum-utils):

$ repoquery -l samba4-winbind-clients.x86_64 | grep wbclient
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Re: [CentOS] libsmbclient conflict problem

2018-02-10 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-02-06, m...@tdiehl.org
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a c-6 machine that I noticed the following on:
>
> (bugs pts10) # package-cleanup --problems Loaded plugins:
> fastestmirror, priorities, refresh-packagekit Package
> system-config-printer-libs-1.1.16-26.el6.x86_64 requires
> libsmbclient.so.0()(64bit) Package
> kdebase-runtime-libs-4.3.4-9.el6.x86_64 requires
> libsmbclient.so.0()(64bit)
>
> So then I ran:
>
> (bugs pts10) # yum install libsmbclient

[...]

> Error: samba4-winbind conflicts with samba-winbind-3.6.23-46el6_9.x86_64
> Error: samba4-winbind-clients conflicts with 
> samba-winbind-clients-3.6.23-46el6_9.x86_64
> Error: samba4-common conflicts with samba-common-3.6.23-46el6_9.x86_64

[...]

The error messages above tell you what the problem is: there is a
conflict between the installed samba4 packages and the samba3 packages
you are trying to install. It looks like someone uninstalled various
samba3 packages using rpm (instead of yum), probably in order to install
samba4, but breaking dependencies of other packages in the process.

> I have the following samba packages installed:
>
> (bugs pts10) # rpm -qa samba4\*
> samba4-winbind-clients-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
> samba4-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
> samba4-client-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
> samba4-common-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
> samba4-winbind-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
> samba4-libs-4.2.10-12.el6_9.x86_64
> (bugs pts10)
>
> Can someone tell me what what I need to do to resolve the above conflicts?

Do you need to keep the samba4 packages? They do not appear to be
co-installable with samba3.

>
> There does not seem to be a later version of libsmbclient available.
>
> Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Odd C7 userspace issue

2017-10-21 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-10-18, m.r...@5-cent.us
 wrote:
> I've seen this a couple of times, and do not understand what it's
> trying to tell me: journal: unable to create file
> '/run/user/200236571/dconf/user': Permission denied.  dconf will not
> work properly.
>
> Now, it exists, and the ownership and permissions seem correct.
> drwx--. 260 Oct 18 06:43 ./ drwx--. 8 
>  160 Oct  6 14:42 ../ -rw---. 1 2 Oct 18
> 09:42 user
>
> Anyone have any thoughts on this? I see next to nothing in googling.
>
>  mark

I've seen that message, on and off, as well. Like you, I have no idea
what's causing it. So far, it hasn't had any obvious impact on the user
experience.

Have you been able to connect the appearance of the message with any
actions on your part? I haven't.

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Re: [CentOS] Strange problem with CentOS 7 and guest additions in VirtualBox

2017-09-29 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-09-26, Nicolas Kovacs
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm having a very weird problem with CentOS as a VirtualBox guest. Let
> me explain it step by step.
>
> tl;dr: I can install VirtualBox Guest Additions and configure a
> fullscreen 1280x1024 graphical resolution on a full install, but not
> on a reduced install with a lightweight window manager.
>
> Here's what I did.
>
> 1. Install vanilla CentOS 7 with KDE.
>
> 2. Boot to reduced 1024x768 resolution.
>
> 3. Install gcc, make and kernel-devel.
>
> 4. Build VirtualBox Guest Additions.
>
> 5. Reboot to full 1280x1024 resolution. ==> perfect
>
> On a vanilla desktop installation, this works perfectly. Now here's my
> second attempt.
>
> 1. Install minimal CentOS 7.
>
> 2. Install X11: yum groupinstall "X Window System"
>
> 3. Install WindowMaker from Nux repo.
>
> 4. Launch WindowMaker (startx) to reduced 1024x768 resolution.
>
> 5. Install gcc, make and kernel-devel.
>
> 6. Build VirtualBox Guest Additions.
>
> 7. Reboot and still have a reduced 1024x768 resolution. ==> meh
>
> I made another attempt with Xfce instead of WindowMaker (yum
> autoremove WindowMaker && yum groupinstall Xfce), but with the same
> result.
>
> Any idea what's going on here?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niki

When you open the Xfce display settings[1], is a resolution higher than
1024x768 available?

1: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/display

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Re: [CentOS] X-Window system ?

2017-09-29 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-09-29, Günther J  Niederwimmer
 wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I have a big Problem to install a KVM Client with virt-manager, after
> Update to CentOS 7.4 it is not more possible to start the virt-manager
> :-(.

What happens when you start virt-manager from a terminal emulator? Do
you see any output?

Is libvirtd running? The command 'systemctl status libvirtd.service'
will tell you.

>
> Is there a way to configuration the system to start virt-manager again 
> without 
> to install "GNOME" 
>
> Thanks for a answer

Yes, but virt-manager will require various GTK and GNOME libraries
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Re: [CentOS] anybody else had this problem since the CR updates?

2017-08-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-08-27, Fred Smith
 wrote:
> I'm running Mate on my C7 boxen, a desktop and a netbook.\
>
> Mate comes from epel, so it's probably not a CentOS problem, but lemme
> ask here in case anybody else has seen it:
>
> some tools (nm, pavucontrol, and possibly others I haven't noted down)
> no longer have the correct formatting on screen. there are no
> backgrounds, i.e., backgrounds that define areas of the screen by
> shading or borders.  clickable text tends to be jammed together.
> pavucontrol has no sliders for any of the level controls.
>
> an example, at the top of pavucontrol it has no visible tabs, just the
> text:
>
>   PlaybackRecordingOutput DevicesInput DevicesConfiguration
>
> spaced as shown. they work when you click them, however. but since
> none of the sliders are visible (and I can't find 'em by randomly
> poking around with the mouse pointer) it's a little hard to use. :(
>
> If I can find a place to post some screenshots, I'll try the  posting
> a note on the epel IRC.
>
> Thanks in advance!

Mate in epel still uses gtk2, whereas the applications you mention use
gtk3. So I'd say you need to choose a theme with support for both.
Adwaita is a good choice in that regard.

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Re: [CentOS] Disabling user list in Gnome

2017-06-06 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-06-06, Daniel Ruiz Molina
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> how can I disable user list that has been logged, at least, one time
> into X environment in Gnome running Centos 7?
>
> Thanks.

I think this is what you're looking for:

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Desktop_Migration_and_Administration_Guide/customizing-login-screen.html#disable-user-list

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Re: [CentOS] startx on console 2

2017-05-25 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-05-25, Robert Moskowitz
 wrote:
> I seem to recall that there is some special option to run X11 on
> 
>
> On this ClearOS system, their console sits on the default console. You
> have to  (etc.) to get a text login.  Now that I have Xfce
> kind of installed, I want to see it on the system console, and I
> thought that just running startx would work.
>
> It doesn't.  Got some errors. And then I remembered years back where
> there was some extra options used to run startx on one of the other
> consoles.
>
> But it has been too many years and I can't find any notes on it. The
> manpage says something about a DISPLAY option, but its use is very
> unclear.
>
> thanks

Try this:

startx /usr/bin/startxfce4 -- :1

Arguments which appear after the double hyphen are passed to the X
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Re: [CentOS] plymouth themes problem

2017-05-18 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-05-15, Fred Smith
 wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I was playing with plymouth themes on a c7 box. I found a page on
> redhat, in their rhel7 documentation that describes how to change to a
> different plymouth screen:
>
> plymouth-set-default-theme --list to find out what themes are
> installed.
>
> then I installed the remaining bunch the yum had available.
>
> so then installing one by doing
>
> plymouth-set-default-theme  dracut -f
>
> as documented on the aforementioned page, followed by a reboot
> produces NO plymouth splash screen. not even if I revert to the system
> default theme (the "charge" theme).
>
> Anybody know what I'm overlooking here?
>
> thanks!
>
> Fred

Do you have "rhgb quiet" on the kernel command line? If not, they can be
added in /etc/default/grub.

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Re: [CentOS] Hotel ethernet via nmcli

2017-03-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-03-14, Robert Moskowitz
 wrote:
> Here I sit in my hotel room with my Cubie armv7 server with Centos7.
>
> They have an ethernet cable here, so most likely I will not need to
> resort to putting a WiFi USB dongle and trying to master nmcli.
>
> But I have to web authenticate to their portal with my personal
> information.  Is that possible with a text web browser?  I seem to
> recall that Centos has one.  What to install?
>
> Of course, catch-22 here.  How to install it to have the tool to
> authenticate!
>
> Going to have to go down to the conference ethernet cafe.  Oh well.
>
> Have a fun night, all.

I came across an interesting script[1] recently for automating web
authentication. It might be helpful in the circumstances you describe.

1: https://blog.ganneff.de/2017/02/automated-wifi-login.html

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6, flash-plugin crashing - anyone have a clue?

2017-02-01 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-02-01, m.r...@5-cent.us
 wrote:

[...]

> I just tried, both on 6.8 and 7.3, and yum tells me "nothing to do", so I
> can't downgrade. By the way, googling, I find it's been filed as a bug
> with upstream:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1411972
>
> mark

For what it's worth, the resource[1] mentioned in the bug report works
just fine without Flash. :-)

1: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_three

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Re: [CentOS] firefox-45.6.0-1.el7.centos.x86_64 crashing... unusable

2016-12-20 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-12-19, ken  wrote:
> Last night installed the latest, firefox-45.6.0-1.el7.centos.x86_64.  
> Fired it up this morning and within the first hour it's crashed three 
> times.  That comes to it being usable for about five minutes before it 
> crashes.
>
> Anyone else getting this?

No such problems here.

I suggest you try testing firefox with any plugins and extensions
disabled. Failing that, try "refreshing" firefox[1].

Have you installed any packages from non-standard repos? I've had some
problems in the past with ffmpeg from the nux repo following a firefox
upgrade (problems which were promptly fixed by the maintainer of that
repo.)

1:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings

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Re: [CentOS] Bottom panel on new C7.3

2016-12-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-12-14, Jerry Geis
 wrote:
> Hi Liam,
>
> Your correct. I copied pasted too fast. The OLD gconftool-2 is for the
> older CentOS 6 version of things.  The command for CentOS 7 is this:
>
> dbus-send --print-reply --session --type=method_call
> --dest=org.gnome.Shell /org/gnome/Shell org.gnome.Shell.Eva
> string:'Main.panel.actor.hide();'
>
> When I enter this command by hand I am getting this error: Error
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.Shell
> was not provided by any .service files
>
> The dbus-send command worked on CentOS 7.2 to hide the bottom panel,
> does not appear to be working on 7.3
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Jerry

All you need to do is change the value of the dconf key
/org/gnome/shell/enabled-extensions. Using dbus to do that is overkill.
I suggest you use gnome-tweak tool (as I suggested earlier) or, if you
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Re: [CentOS] Bottom panel on new C7.3

2016-12-13 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-12-13, Jerry Geis
 wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I run these commands for previous 7.2 to hide the bottom panel.
> gconftool-2 -t int  --list-type int  --set
> /apps/panel/toplevels/bottom_panel/auto_hide_size 0 gconftool-2 -t
> bool --list-type bool --set
> /apps/panel/toplevels/bottom_panel/auto_hide true
>
> It does not seem to be working any more... I am seeing the panel.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Jerry

Those commands are for the GNOME 2 (and possibly MATE) desktop
environments. In GNOME 3 you use gnome-tweak-tool to disable the "Window
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Re: [CentOS] Disable gnome-initial-setup

2016-12-13 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-12-13, Gordon Messmer
 wrote:
> Prior to 7.3, I could disable the post-first-boot GNOME initial setup
> window by turning off the "initial-setup-graphical" systemd service.
> That service no longer exists, so I no longer know how to disable the
> setup window.  I know that I can remove the "gnome-initial-setup"
> package, but I expect that at some point, it'll be brought in by
> dependencies or group membership, so I'd like to find a way to turn it
> off regardless of that package's presence.  Does anyone know how, in
> the new version?

The package puts some files in /etc/xdg/autostart/. You could edit those
to prevent autostart.[1]

Another option is to place the file .config/gnome-initial-setup-done in
the user's home directory, containing the text "yes".

1:
https://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html

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Re: [CentOS] Looking for kernel-3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64.rpm

2016-12-01 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-12-01, Louis Francoeur
 wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> I'm trying to install my security updates for Centos 7 and i can't
> find this kernel.
>
>
> I looked at the following mirror in the updates directory. Am looking
> in the right place?
>
>
> CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2016:2574 Important
>
> Upstream details at :
> https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2016-2574.html
>
> The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
> syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )
>
> x86_64:
> f231b87fb16a9de687ae9e872a5da1b97e4a15922c2a8d8f6c7c220696e10200
> kernel-3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64.rpm
> 5cd2d237afabb55857a00977394886f948907841e5b4f6db84240c9bb80b
> kernel-abi-whitelists-3.10.0-514.el7.noarch.rpm
> 5a645d904b6463d839ea964871cfb4e1895f0fd592b9dc268c6a35581299367b
> kernel-debug-3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64.rpm
> 1521df6cbca0622acfe7e5f1a10d14e7335a410a3bad1d407d83873a888eaddb
> kernel-debug-devel-3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64.rpm
> 364d728b37e9ceab69c1a85136bbd77c836bf7e9510e0d2061940889c8cea47d
> kernel-devel-3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64.rpm
> 8e1b21a55a84f956ed53f149a22f14025e81721e1209e79ee600cf86f49c8f52
> kernel-doc-3.10.0-514.el7.noarch.rpm
> 42bb982ede3e9b873d6df50f16574cc0c668d4da4475342a3ba597297d8e230b
> kernel-headers-3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64.rpm
> 576850ebea999d6d8fbe804c38aedd93ac9bc6aed5fcb9572720089f8bc08ab8
> kernel-tools-3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64.rpm
> 412fde595cd0751f2ebcecf4ac99cabfb14de0499b2d6ae3dad0eff8bc0a8cd7
> kernel-tools-libs-3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64.rpm
> 8cba3bae0d781bbd0d38ac302ee117a6f912062fe2c1d2a5b8130f5b4b1b2bff
> kernel-tools-libs-devel-3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64.rpm
> c088f9d7807c436d7acfd82432f7a1190c821afb57c1fd4948932594a2c0
> perf-3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64.rpm
> c97c11ec9746426b57c6fb23486fe87f983bf7c76d6652bdc4366f08e6ea2a16
> python-perf-3.10.0-514.el7.x86_64.rpm
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Louis Francoeur

That update is for RHEL 7.3. The CentOS team hasn't quite caught up yet.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6: environment variables and cronjobs ...

2016-12-01 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-12-01, Walter H.
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> in
>
> /etc/cron.d/test
>
> I've this:
>
> 50 15 * * * root ( date ; echo "---" ; env ; echo "---" ; set )
>>>/tmp/test.txt
>
> and I thought I would be shown environment variables which are defined
> in
>
> e.g.  /etc/profiles.d/proxy.sh or /etc/profiles.d/proxy.csh
>
> but this isn't like this ...

That is the expected behaviour.

>
> where do I have to define e.g.
> export http_proxy="http://proxy.local:3128/;
> in order to have it in cron jobs?
>
> Thanks,
> Walter

You can set the variable in the cron job itself. See, for example,
/etc/cron.d/0hourly, where several variables are set.

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Re: [CentOS] Skype for Centos Desktop

2016-11-17 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-11-17, Rodrigo Pichiñual Norin
 wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I search info in the web about how to install skype on centos 6.5, but
> just exists info about skype with architecture to 32 bit.
>
> someone can me explicain, how to install skype for 64 bit architecture
> , it's possible?
>
> thank
>

You can install and run 32-bit Skype on 64-bit CentOS 6. I recommended
the Nux repo[1] for convenience. The various 32-bit dependencies will be
installed by yum.

1: https://li.nux.ro/repos.html

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Re: [CentOS] Disable hybernate/suspend in CentOS 7

2016-10-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-10-13, Valeri Galtsev
 wrote:
>
> On Thu, October 13, 2016 11:55 am, Mike - st257 wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Valeri Galtsev
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Experts,
>>>
>>> Could someone point me in the right direction: how can I disable
>>> hybernate/suspend in CentOS 7?
>>>
>>> I get workstations for graduate students with decent amount of RAM
>>> (32 GB), and for machines with large RAM I either do not have swap
>>> at all of have some small (4 GB) swap. As I remember from older
>>> manuals, one has to have at least twice amount of swap compared to
>>> physical RAM for hybernate/suspend to work. This probably is what
>>> bit me: new Dells came with keyboard that has sleep button, when one
>>> hits that button the machine locks up. (it stays powered on, does
>>> not respond mouse, keyboard, does not respond ping).
>>>
>>> I would like to disable that sleep button on keyboard. (I'm kind of
>>> trying to avoid replacing keyboard with the ones that do not have
>>> "sleep" key).
>>>
>>
>> Have you tried disabling power management via GRUB options?
>> http://askubuntu.com/a/130541
>>
>
> Mike, thanks! You gave me good enough push into right direction,
> thanks to which I solved my problem.
>
> Disabling power management via GRUB (boot) options didn't help me. I
> went further along these lines, tried to tweak related stuff in
> /etc/systemd/login.conf (systemd experts will probably lough, I'm not
> one, so... ;-) - didn't help either. I finally came to doing what
> helped me: edited
>
> /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy
>
> (replaced "yes" with "no" in a few related places). This solved my
> problem. I'm not posting what exactly I changed, as I overdid it
> (disabled locally logged in user's ability to reboot/poweroff machine,
> and the same from gdm loging screen - I will need to restore these).
>
> Thanks!  Valeri

Be aware that the file
/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy is not a
configfile and will be silently overwritten when systemd is upgraded.

In earlier releases of PolicyLit local changes were made in
/etc/polkit-1/localauthority, but I don't know if that approach still
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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-10-04 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-10-04, Frank Saporito
 wrote:
> I looked at Mate Desktop for a CentOS 7 and recall having a problem:
> Disk Utility was not avail.  I find Disk Utility very handy for
> managing RAID.
>
> Does anyone know if the good ole Gnome 3 Disk Utility has a Mate
> equivalent?
>
> thanks frank

(Please don't top-post.)

You can use GNOME Disk Utility (package gnome-disk-utility) within a
MATE session. It integrates quite nicely.

>
> On 10/03/2016 12:54 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>>> -Original Message- From:
>>> centos-boun...@centos.org
>>> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Gianluca Cecchi Sent: den 30 september 2016 14:22 To:
>>> CentOS mailing list 
>>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
>>>
 Worked fine. Seems to be a little sharper graphics now.

 Thanks!
>>> Do you mean with freetype-freeworld or infinality?
>> Infinality.
>>
>> It might be one of those imagination things.  When I looked this
>> morning I didn't see any Wow!-difference I did last week.
>>
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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Networking

2016-10-03 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-10-03, TE Dukes
<tdu...@palmettoshopper.com> wrote:
>
>
>> -Original Message- From:
>> centos-boun...@centos.org
>> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
>> Behalf Of Liam O'Toole Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 9:19 AM To:
>> centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS]
>> Virtualization Networking
>> 
>> On 2016-10-03, TE Dukes
>> <tdu...@palmettoshopper.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> -Original Message- From:
>> >> centos-boun...@centos.org
>> >> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
>> >> Behalf Of Michael Cole Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 9:41 PM
>> >> To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re:
>> >> [CentOS] Virtualization Networking
>> >>
>> >> Deletion does not remove all, Try a erase if that did not work.
>> >>
>> >> Configuration files are not always where you expect then to be.
>> >>
>> >> Regards Michael Cole
>> >>
>> >> On Friday, September 30, 2016 9:16:44 PM TE Dukes wrote:
>> >> > I deleted all virtualization packages and re-installed.
>> >> >
>> >> > Something must have been hosed up.
>> >> >
>> >> > Installing a VM and it didn't even ask to setup the network.
>> >> > Hopefully that's a good sign.
>> >> >
>> >> > Will know shortly
>> >> >
>> >> > TIA
>> >
>> >
>> > OK, I'm about done trying to get this to work. I have spent HOURS
>> > reading, installing, re-installing, etc.
>> >
>> > I can get the guest to access the internet but have tried every was
>> > possible to be able to access the guest from the LAN or even the
>> > host.  Nothing I have tried works.
>> >
>> > The only thing all documentation leaves out is how to set up the
>> > guest networking during the install. Seems if I don't set anything
>> > up or just set it to DHCP it has internet connectivity, but that is
>> > all.
>> >
>> > I have gone back in after the guest has been installed and changed
>> > the networking configuration to match my LAN, that doesn't work
>> > either. I lose internet accessibility when I do that.
>> >
>> > I have tried to install CentOS 7 and Debian 8, the same problems
>> > with each.  I have tried CentOS the built in Virt-Manager and
>> > VirtualBox.  with same results.  Can't seem to find the free
>> > version of VMware but I suspect I would have the same results as
>> > well.
>> >
>> > Again, any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > TI!
>> 
>> VirtualBox gives you a GUI for setting up port forwarding from the
>> host to the guest. It's under Machine -> Settings -> Network ->
>> Advanced. Did you try it?
>> 
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>> Liam
> [Thomas E Dukes] Hi!
>
> Thanks, I did
>
> I portwared 80 to 8080 and 22 to .

What happens when you issue the command 'ssh -p  localhost' on the
host? I'm assuming that an ssh server is running on the guest and that
there are no firewalls getting in the way.

>
> I also tried the NAT networking, changing the default 10.0.5.0/24 to
> 192.168.1.0/24

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization Networking

2016-10-03 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-10-03, TE Dukes
 wrote:
>
>
>> -Original Message- From:
>> centos-boun...@centos.org
>> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
>> Behalf Of Michael Cole Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 9:41 PM To:
>> centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS]
>> Virtualization Networking
>> 
>> Deletion does not remove all, Try a erase if that did not work.
>> 
>> Configuration files are not always where you expect then to be.
>> 
>> Regards Michael Cole
>> 
>> On Friday, September 30, 2016 9:16:44 PM TE Dukes wrote:
>> > I deleted all virtualization packages and re-installed.
>> >
>> > Something must have been hosed up.
>> >
>> > Installing a VM and it didn't even ask to setup the network.
>> > Hopefully that's a good sign.
>> >
>> > Will know shortly
>> >
>> > TIA
>
>
> OK, I'm about done trying to get this to work. I have spent HOURS
> reading, installing, re-installing, etc.
>
> I can get the guest to access the internet but have tried every was
> possible to be able to access the guest from the LAN or even the host.
> Nothing I have tried works.
>
> The only thing all documentation leaves out is how to set up the guest
> networking during the install. Seems if I don't set anything up or
> just set it to DHCP it has internet connectivity, but that is all.
>
> I have gone back in after the guest has been installed and changed the
> networking configuration to match my LAN, that doesn't work either. I
> lose internet accessibility when I do that.
>
> I have tried to install CentOS 7 and Debian 8, the same problems with
> each.  I have tried CentOS the built in Virt-Manager and VirtualBox.
> with same results.  Can't seem to find the free version of VMware but
> I suspect I would have the same results as well.
>
> Again, any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> TI!

VirtualBox gives you a GUI for setting up port forwarding from the host
to the guest. It's under Machine -> Settings -> Network -> Advanced. Did
you try it?

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Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-07 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-09-07, Lamar Owen  wrote:

[...]

> And if anyone were to think that the Debian-style 'apt-get dist-upgrade' 
> is the cure-all, there is a thread in the owncloud user mailing list 
> that you may want to read, about an admin who locked up (and ended up 
> losing) his owncloud instance after doing a dist-upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04 
> (he didn't specify the source version).

You will always find examples of release upgrades going wrong. The
Debian release notes[1] are very clear about the pitfalls of performing
out such upgrades remotely in particular. My own experience has been
more fortunate, as I have carried out multiple release upgrades over the
years on many different machines. But I wouldn't dream of attempting
the equivalent on a CentOS installation.

1:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#backup

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Re: [CentOS] /etc/sysconfig/network HOSTNAME settings

2016-09-04 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-09-03, Walter H.  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I found different ways to define the hostname ...
>
> this
> HOSTNAME=3D"host.domain.tld"
>
> or this:
> HOSTNAME=3D"host"
> DOMAIN=3D"domain.tld"
>
> what is the correct way?
>
> Thanks,
> Walter

In the case of RHEL 5 and 6 the former way is recommended[1]. I don't
know whether that advice has changed with RHEL 7.

1:
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-Network_Interfaces.html#sect-setting-the-host-name

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Re: [CentOS] hacking grub to control number of retained kernels.

2016-09-03 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-09-03, Fred Smith
 wrote:
> I've recently had this problem on two C7 systems, wherein when doing
> "yum update", I get a warning about /boot being low on space.
>
> both systems were installed using the partition size recommended by
> Anaconda, right now "df -h" shows /boot as 494M, with 79M free.
>
> I don't store unrelated crap on /boot, I assume that yum and/or grub
> will manage it for me. So, why, after over a year, is it running low
> on space on two different systems?
>
> Is there some location in /boot where junk piles up, but shouldn't,
> that I have to know about so I can clean it out?
>
> I see EIGHT initramfs files in /boot, two per kernel, same name but
> one has a kdump just before the .img suffix. do I need those for old
> kernels that I may or may not ever boot? (they're 30 to 50 MB each).
>
> For the moment I've edited /etc/grub.conf and changed
> installonly_limit from 4 to 3. (related question: do I need to
> manually remove the oldest kernel, having done this, or will yum/grub
> clean it up the next time there's a kernel to install?)
>
> thanks!
>
> Fred

I recommend the package-cleanup command from the yum-utils package. See
the '--oldkernels' option in particular; it will remove obsolete
kernels, i.e., those which are no longer installable from your yum
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Re: [CentOS] Custom desktop menu entries: weird behavior with menu categories

2016-08-15 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-08-15, Johnny Hughes
 wrote:

[...]

> The best thing to do is to keep a copy of all of your modified .desktop
> files somewhere else and you can copy them back in if necessary after an
> update.
>
> Thanks,
> Johnny Hughes

The OP could place the modified .desktop files in
/usr/local/share/applications. The environment variable XDG_DATA_DIRS
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Re: [CentOS] Duplicate *.desktop entries for GNOME in /usr/share/applications

2016-08-13 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-08-13, Nicolas Kovacs
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Today I noticed something strange. There seem to be a series of
> duplicate desktop menu entries in /usr/share/applications.
>
> Example: gedit.desktop and org.gnome.gedit.desktop
>
> Other example: nautilus.desktop and org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop
>
> This is annoying, since I usually edit some custom menu entries for my
> users. Now, if I edit both files for a single application, I end up
> with duplicate menu entries.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niki
>

Do the duplicate entries contain the same 'Exec=' line?

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Re: [CentOS] script to make webpage snapshot

2016-08-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-08-11, Valeri Galtsev
 wrote:
> Dear Experts,
>
> Could someone recommend a script or utility one can run from command
> line on Linux or UNIX machine to make a snapshot of webpage?
>
> We have a signage (xibo) and whoever creates/changes content, likes to
> add URLs of some webpages there. All works well if these are webpages
> on our servers (which are pretty fast), but some external servers
> often take time to respond and take time to assemble the page, in
> addition these servers sometimes get really busy, and when response is
> longer than time devoted for that content in signage window, this
> window hangs forever with blank white field until you restart client.
> Trivial workaround: just to get snapshot (as, say daily cron job), and
> point signage client to that snapshot definitely will solve it, and
> simultaneously we will stop bugging other people servers often without
> much need for it.
>
> But when I tried to search for some utility or script that makes
> webpage snapshot, I discovered that my ability to search degraded
> somehow...
>
> Thanks for all your pointers!
>
> Valeri

Not an answer to the question you asked, but maybe this is a job for a
caching proxy server like squid?

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Re: [CentOS] Is "xman" available in any CentOS 6.x repo?

2016-08-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-08-11, Kay Schenk
 wrote:
> I know it's old but I miss "xman" in CentOS 6. :(

I would have expected it to be provided by the package xorg-x11-apps,
but that is not the case. A compile-time option, perhaps?

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Re: [CentOS] XRDB not in our centos6.8 build

2016-08-10 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-08-10, Dan Hyatt
 wrote:
>
> I am a bit baffled on this.
>
> We recently rebuilt all our servers to CentOS release 6.8 (Final)
> from a prior 6.x centos release.  We ran into a couple of problems
> such as Java not working (just had to yum install java). It was
> installed, but unable to create a java machine, until I yum install
> java solved the problem.
>
> But now a user (the big boss) is receiving xrdp errors. And it appears
> that xrdp is not installed on these newly built servers.
>
> I googled xrdp and was unable to decipher if it is needed in our
> environment (we use sas which does use X11 graphics on the servers to
> export graphs).
>
> If it is needed, wondering why it not included in the groups we have
> always used for kickstart.
>
> When would I need xrdp? or is it one of the leftovers here from a
> bygone era?
>
>
> Thanks for your response.

The package description (yum info xrdp): "The goal of this project is to
provide a fully functional Linux terminal server, capable of accepting
connections from rdesktop and Microsoft's own terminal server / remote
desktop clients." If you connect to the server(s) using Windows clients,
then it's likely that you need this package.

I notice that xrdp is in the EPEL repository rather than the standard
CentOS repositories. That might explain why it is not installed via
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Re: [CentOS] C7 Desktop background

2016-05-16 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-05-15, Rob Kampen
 wrote:
> Hi Just stumbled into a problem with my recent new build C7 work
> station.  Fully updated, gnome desktop, all was working well until I
> had a play with Tweak Tool, I wanted to try some other themes for
> window layouts as the default seems to not show check boxes correctly
> in all situations. I haven't yet determined what is causing this but
> suspected another theme may work better, as not being able to see the
> correct status of a check box is somewhat frustrating.  So I made and
> tried numerous changes with this Tweak Tool, but only used the items
> that were installed as default installed select options, no special
> import of any other themes or extensions.  At one point I lost the
> Desktop background - cannot recall which change triggered this,
> however as I have tried all the other options on just about every tab,
> I still have a gray desktop.  If I move the cursor to the top left
> corner and it shows all the open windows, the desktop wallpaper /
> background shows just fine, but when I select any window/app, my
> desktop reverts to gray.  I have tried resetting the desktop
> background but it does not remove this aberration.
>
> Any gnome gurus out there that can point me to the gnome foo required
> to get my desktop looking 21st century and not like my old monochrome
> Windows386 circa late 1980's.
>
> Thanks Rob

Try this:

dconf reset /org/gnome/desktop/background/picture-uri

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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade path from CentOS 7 to future versions

2016-05-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-05-10, Valeri Galtsev
<galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 3:57 pm, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> On 2016-05-10, Valeri Galtsev
>> <galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. Debian (and clones): you keep the components of the system pretty
>>> much on the level of latest release of each of components. Therefore
>>> "upgrade" to new release of the system is pretty close to just a
>>> regular routine update.
>>
>> You are describing Debian sid/unstable, which is contunuously
>> updated, and where there are no releases in the usual sense of the
>> word. Debian stable releases are a different matter, and correspond
>> very closely to major releases of RHEL/CentOS. There is always an
>> upgrade path between consecutive releases of Debian stable.
>>
>
> Yes, LTS, thanks Liam. Only LTS has life cycle of mere 2 years,
> whereas RHEL (hence CentOS) is what, 10 years? I was pretty sure
> Debian does not backport patches (of Linuxes no one except RH, as far
> as I know). How do they do it with LTS? Do they just freeze major
> version, no matter what (it is only 2 years the need)?

Others have complained that this is not the place for an extended
discussion on Debian, so I'll just direct you here:

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/

If you have any questions, I suggest you post them to debian-user. I am
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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade path from CentOS 7 to future versions

2016-05-10 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-05-10, Valeri Galtsev
 wrote:
>
> 1. Debian (and clones): you keep the components of the system pretty
> much on the level of latest release of each of components. Therefore
> "upgrade" to new release of the system is pretty close to just a
> regular routine update.

You are describing Debian sid/unstable, which is contunuously updated,
and where there are no releases in the usual sense of the word. Debian
stable releases are a different matter, and correspond very closely to
major releases of RHEL/CentOS. There is always an upgrade path between
consecutive releases of Debian stable.

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

2016-05-08 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-05-07, Michael Hennebry
<henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, 7 May 2016, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>
>> On 2016-05-06, Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro>
>> wrote:
>>> Guys if you are using my repo on CentOS 6 then the new Firefox might
>>> not like the old ffmpeg I ship.
>>>
>>> There is new and apparently working stuff in my testing repo; try to
>>> upgrade and see if that solves the problem.  Feedback welcome so I
>>> can move the testing packages in the main repo sooner, rather than
>>> later.
>>>
>>> yum --enablerepo=nux-dextop-testing update ffmpeg
>>>
>>> -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>>
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>>
>> That fixed it for me. Many thanks.
>
> My Firefox ESR 45.1.0 on CentOS 6 crashes a lot, usually while I am
> scrolling.  So far as I can tell, I'm not using ffmpeg lately.  Is
> this still likely to help?
>

It will help if ffmpeg is installed. But ffmpeg is not in the official
repository, so it will not be installed unless you went of your way to
get it.

What you can try is to refresh your FF profile[1]. I found that FF 45
was crashing on gmail (so no video involved) until I did that.

1:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability

2016-05-07 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-05-06, Nux!  wrote:
> Guys if you are using my repo on CentOS 6 then the new Firefox might
> not like the old ffmpeg I ship.
>
> There is new and apparently working stuff in my testing repo; try to
> upgrade and see if that solves the problem.  Feedback welcome so I can
> move the testing packages in the main repo sooner, rather than later.
>
> yum --enablerepo=nux-dextop-testing update ffmpeg
>
> -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> Nux!  www.nux.ro

That fixed it for me. Many thanks.

>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "m roth" 
>> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
>> Sent: Friday, 6 May, 2016 21:20:15
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Firefox 45.1.0 stability
>
>> Alice Wonder wrote:
>>> On 05/06/2016 11:54 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
 Good afternoon,

 Apologies if this topic has come up before but I've found
 that the Firefox 45.1.0 stability to be somewhat lacking.

 For example, I can't use it for Twitter because it crashes.
 It also crashes when I log into gmail. This happens every
 time I try these URL's.

 Any suggestions on improving the stability?
>>>
>>> It has not crashed on twitter at all for me.
>>>
>>> I do run privacy badger on Twitter which blocks a lot of resources that
>>> want to track me, maybe some of those resources are what firefox is
>>> having trouble with?
>>>
>>> I also don't have flash installed, nore Java plugin (not even iced-tea)
>> 
>> Right, well I can't do that at work. And I just had to downgrade firefox
>> from 45, because I was *trying* to do my annual required privacy and
>> security refresher, and it opened, it has, I think, flash audio, and
>> firefox crashed, fired it up again, restored, and started and it crashed
>> *again*, and a third time, and that was it: I downgraded, didn't have to
>> (also couldn't) downgrade flash-plugin, but had no trouble at all
>> completing the training. Note that I *could* play streaming media and
>> youtube with 45, but... and, no, you've *got* to be joking to think I'm
>> going to convince upper management to ban flash
>> 
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Re: [CentOS] Firefox and Flash

2016-04-26 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-04-26, Alice Wonder
 wrote:
> On 04/26/2016 12:03 AM, Andreas Benzler wrote:
>> Hello every one I installed the official flash plugin from adobe
>>
>> About Plugins tells me:
>>
>>  Datei: libflashplayer.so Pfad:
>>  /usr/lib64/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so Version: 11.2.202.577
>>  Status: Aktiviert (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE) Shockwave
>>  Flash 11.2 r202
>>
>> But it is:
>>
>>   strings /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so  | grep 616
>>   FlashPlayer_11_2_202_616_FlashPlayer LNX 11,2,202,616 11.2.202.616
>>   drm/%s/%s/%s/11.2.202.616%s
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> As far as I can tell Adobe stopped supporting flash on Linux and a
> deprecated vulnerable version is all that is available.

No, flash is still supported by Adobe on linux. Only security updates,
though. No new features. The last update was on 8 April.

>
> I would highly advice against using the flash plugin. Unfortunately 
> advertising networks do not adequately vet flash based advertisements 
> resulting in malware being distributed via flash on common websites we 
> all visit, including news sites.
>
> Usually the malware targets Windows but there is some that targets Linux 
> and will encrypt files on your system asking a ransom for the decryption 
> key.
>
> Just say no to flash.

I agree with that sentiment. Sometimes, however, there are circumstances
in which you just can't say no.

>
> That's not what you asked, but that's what I advise.

In case anyone else has this problem, the issue seems to be that firefox
retains stale information about the plugin status. You can force a
refresh as follows:

1. Exit firefox
2. Uninstall flash-plugin
3. Start firefox, and exit again
4. Install flash-plugin

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Re: [CentOS] what does firefox have against sans-serif

2016-04-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-04-21, Michael Hennebry
 wrote:
> I've been struggling to get Firefox to render text in a sans-serif
> font.  So far, I've only been able to do that by setting the default
> font as sans-serif.  DejaVu Sans Mono and DajaVu Sans are the only
> other listed fonts that I'm reasonalbly sure are sans-serif.
> Helvetica and Arial are not there.
>
> sans-serif does work on Konqueror.
>
> Does anyone know how to affect the font-family on Firefox 38.7.0 ?
>

When configuring fonts you are asked if you want to "Allow pages to
choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above". What did you
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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

2016-04-05 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-04-04, Timothy Murphy
 wrote:
> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, and downloaded the
> ISO, though I haven't run it.
>
> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?

I think it's an excellent opportunity for developers, and for the simply
curious.

>
> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.

You should receive an email confirmation from Red Hat. In my case it
only arrived after I had entered my RH account details when installing
the new OS. That could just be a coincidence, of course.

> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
> either with dnf or some other way.

Updates are available through yum in the normal way. Dnf is available in
the EPEL 7 repository.

>
> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
> which I've been running for several years,
> and I don't particularly want to change.
>
> Any views on this?

One thing that struck me is that the (free) developer subscription is
valid for only one year. It is not clear whether the subscription can be
freely renewed thereafter. I wouldn't advocate a full migration just
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Re: [CentOS] no gnome-applets in C7.2

2016-03-08 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-03-08, ken <geb...@mousecar.com> wrote:
> On 03/08/2016 06:49 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> On 2016-03-07, ken <geb...@mousecar.com> wrote:
>>> Weird.  There seems to be quite a bit of software missing from C7.2,
>>> gnome-applets being one of them.  Or has it been moved or renamed or
>>> otherwise obscured?
>>>
>>> tia
>>
>> Since gnome-panel and 'flashback' mode have been removed from GNOME 3,
>> gnome-applets is no longer required or available. Much of the
>> functionality of traditional applets is available by means of extensions
>> to gnome-shell. See the various gnome-shell-extension-* packages.
>>
>
> Thanks, Liam.  I checked those out, downloaded a handful of them, and 
> tried some out.  But couldn't get any of the functionality out of them 
> that I was looking for.  E.g., previously (C5.9) there were nice, little 
> applets to:
>
> - show the current weather; click on for forecasts and weather maps;
>
> - selecting to paste buffer from several sets of odd characters and 
> characters and characters from foreign languages;
>
> - icons, clicking on which could fire virtually any executable on the 
> system;
>
> - "drawers", clicking on which popped an entire column of any of the above;
>
> - and probably some other things I'm not remembering.
>
> I'm still not finding any of that in C7.2... it's like this "upgrade" is 
> several steps backwards from the functionality in earlier CentOS 
> version.  Or am I missing something?

No, many before you have similarly bemoaned the changes made during the
transition from GNOME 2 to 3. I suggest you take a look around the
extensions website[1] for extensions which restore the missing
functionality. Use gnome-tweak-tool to install and remove extensions.
They can be a bit hit-and-miss when it comes to compatibility with the
particular version of gnome-shell you are running.

1: https://extensions.gnome.org/

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Re: [CentOS] no gnome-applets in C7.2

2016-03-08 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-03-07, ken  wrote:
> Weird.  There seems to be quite a bit of software missing from C7.2, 
> gnome-applets being one of them.  Or has it been moved or renamed or 
> otherwise obscured?
>
> tia

Since gnome-panel and 'flashback' mode have been removed from GNOME 3,
gnome-applets is no longer required or available. Much of the
functionality of traditional applets is available by means of extensions
to gnome-shell. See the various gnome-shell-extension-* packages.

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Re: [CentOS] Changing default file type in Centos 6

2016-02-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-02-27, Frank Cox
 wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 16:33:00 -0500 H wrote:
>
>> No, that I already did. I am talking about the file type when you
>> open a graphical directory window.
>
> I'm missing something here.  Do you mean that you want to change icon
> that shows up in a Nautilus window for a particular filetype?
>

I think the OP is talking about the file type that Nautilus reports when
you right-click on a file and bring up the 'Properties' dialog.

In my case (also CentOS 6) Naulitus reports 'Genesis ROM' for files with
the .md extension. The file command, on the other hand, reports 'ASCII
English text'.

The file responsible for the behaviour of Nautilus is
/usr/share/mime/application/x-genesis-rom.xml, which appears to have
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Re: [CentOS] Restoring session status

2016-02-19 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-02-18, H  wrote:
> I am running  CentOS 6.6 on both a couple of servers and on a laptop.
> When I let the laptop sleep, window states and positions are restored
> correctly when I awaken it. However, when I shut down the laptop,
> later turn it on and log in, none of the terminal windows and
> directory windows are restored correctly to e.g. minimized state,
> instead they are restored to when they last were in use.
>
> Naturally, this is a little bit annoying: have I missed a setting
> somewhere?
>
> Thanks.

Run 'gnome-session-properties', go to the 'Options' tab, and check
'Automatically remember ...'.

I don't use that setting, and I have no idea whether all applications
honour it. But it's worth a try.

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Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-25 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-01-25, Always Learning
 wrote:

[...]

> As a C5 Gnome 2 user I dread G3 when I move my desktop to C6. Mate seems
> an alternative.  Anyone know more about the G2 folk ?

C6 features G2. Nothing to dread.

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Re: [CentOS] Skype on CentOS

2015-08-06 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-08-06, Digimer li...@alteeve.ca
wrote:
 On 05/08/15 08:06 PM, Andrew Daviel wrote:
 
 I have Skype 2.1.0 running on CentOS 5, but it does not support
 video.
 
 At various times I have tried to install or run more recent versions
 on CentOS 5 and CentOS 6, but generally they fail for some reason,
 e.g.  library requirements.
 
 We would like to run Skype in some conference rooms, for business
 reasons e.g. job interviews where some participants don't have access
 to more professional solutions, and as I recall Microsoft shut down
 gateways to H323.
 
 Does anyone have a good procedure for running Skype on CentOS ?  E.g.
 does it run natively on CentOS 7 ?  Or will it run with a custom
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH, as does Mozilla ?  Or will it run inside a virtual
 machine, or with Wine ?
 
 We have video capture cards using V4L2 that work with e.g. SeeVoghRN,
 xawtv and, I think, Ekiga.

 If you're not stuck on CentOS 5...

 http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2012/install-skype-on-fedora-centos-red-hat-rhel-scientific-linux-sl

 To the point, works.


That article seems unnecessarily complicated, at least as far as CentOS
6 and 7 are concerned. Skype is in the nux-dextop repository (which
repository is mentioned in the article), so a simple 'yum install skype'
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Re: [CentOS] C6.6 Gnome panel problem

2015-07-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-07-26, Rob Kampen
rkam...@kampensonline.com wrote:
 On 07/27/2015 05:34 AM, Fred Smith wrote:
 Hi all!

 I usually keep the panels on my Centos 6.6 (Gnome) so they auto-hide,
 but t'other day I wanted to keep the top panel visible for a while to
 make the clock visible for doing some rough timings.

 so I open the top panel, click properties, and UNcheck the autohide
 checkbox, close the properties menu, and to my surprise, the panel
 still autohides. Went thru that exercise several times (come on
 guys, lets keep doing the same thing over and over til it works!,
 like congress does)

 So I open up the gnome configuration editor and browse around to find
 apps/panel/default_setup/toplevels/top_panel and
 apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel.

 neither one has a check in the checkbox for autohide, so I'm at a
 loss here as to what's going on.

 Anybody out there got any clues?
 Did you try logging out and back in? Shouldn't be the case but it is
 gnome after all

Alternatively, issue the command 'pkill gnome-panel'; gnome-session will
restart the panel for you. (Again, shouldn't be required, but ...)

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Re: [CentOS] Using gpg to encrypt a URL line on CentOS 6 additional information

2015-07-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-07-11, Jerry Geis
ge...@pagestation.com wrote:
+1.   also, it'd probably be good to state what you're trying to
accomplish rather than if you can throw a technology at vague
something or another.   I think you'd find gpg's password input
cumbersome for symmetric keys, the output too long in ascii armor and
possibly annoying to deal with public keys... but you don't really say
what you're trying to fix/avoid/do/not do.

 Sorry if I wasnt being clear enough

 it basically comes down to this.

 I use an apache interface to my application, the URL line has
 parameters line mscript?value=2something=4 etc..

 I have a crude encoding (wouldnt even call it encryption) that I use
 right now.

 I'd like to make that more robust. I started looking and found mcrypt
 (which I mentioned in the first post)

 But that did not compile from source, and is not available in the
 standard yum install. Other repos have it but that

 may not be an option for me due to other reasons No problem.


 So I started thinking about does GPG support something similiar like
 mcrypt? Easy way to encrypt a line for URL.

 That is where my goal lies... Way to encrypt a URL string with what is
 standard in CentOS 6.

Can you not just use HTTPS instead of HTTP? Also, it is preferable to
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Re: [CentOS] ssh -X versus -Y

2015-07-06 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-07-05, Gordon Messmer
gordon.mess...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 07/05/2015 04:51 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
 One practical difference I have seen is the improved performance of
 -Y over -X. I have long attributed that to the relaxation of security
 controls in the former case.

 When and how did you measure that?

 The -Y change was introduced in Fedora Core 3, in November 2004.  The
 default was changed to ForwardX11Trusted=yes just a month or two
 later.  I'm not sure -X and -Y ever behaved differently on Enterprise
 Linux or CentOS.

 At this point, I don't think it's even possible to set
 ForwardX11Trusted=no any more.  The X SECURITY extension was replaced
 with X Access Control Extension several years ago.

The perceived difference was a general impression on my part, and not
measured scientifically. Moreover, it was formed years ago, and on a
variety of Linux systems. I concede that it may well be obsolete.

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Re: [CentOS] ssh -X versus -Y

2015-07-05 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-06-26, Stuart Barkley stua...@4gh.net wrote:

[...]

 The documentation of the practical differences between -X and -Y is
 pretty obscure (mostly defering to the X Security extension
 documentation).  I would like to see better clarification of the
 differences.

One practical difference I have seen is the improved performance of -Y
over -X. I have long attributed that to the relaxation of security
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