Re: [ceph-users] Help with SSDs

2014-12-18 Thread Udo Lembke
Hi Mark, On 18.12.2014 07:15, Mark Kirkwood wrote: While you can't do much about the endurance lifetime being a bit low, you could possibly improve performance using a journal *file* that is located on the 840's (you'll need to symlink it - disclaimer - have not tried this myself, but will

Re: [ceph-users] Help with SSDs

2014-12-18 Thread Mark Kirkwood
The effect of this is *highly* dependent to the SSD make/model. My m550 work vastly better if the journal is a file on a filesystem as opposed to a partition. Obviously the Intel S3700/S3500 are a better choice - but the OP has already purchased Sammy 840's, so I'm trying to suggest options

Re: [ceph-users] Help with SSDs

2014-12-18 Thread Lindsay Mathieson
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:05:20 PM Mark Kirkwood wrote: My m550 work vastly better if the journal is a file on a filesystem as opposed to a partition. Any particular filesystem? ext4? xfs? or doesn't matter? -- Lindsay signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [ceph-users] Help with SSDs

2014-12-18 Thread Lindsay Mathieson
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:05:20 PM Mark Kirkwood wrote: The effect of this is *highly* dependent to the SSD make/model. My m550 work vastly better if the journal is a file on a filesystem as opposed to a partition. Obviously the Intel S3700/S3500 are a better choice - but the OP has already

Re: [ceph-users] Help with SSDs

2014-12-18 Thread Mark Kirkwood
On 19/12/14 03:01, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:05:20 PM Mark Kirkwood wrote: The effect of this is *highly* dependent to the SSD make/model. My m550 work vastly better if the journal is a file on a filesystem as opposed to a partition. Obviously the Intel S3700/S3500 are a

[ceph-users] Help with SSDs

2014-12-17 Thread Bryson McCutcheon
Hey there, Is there a good work around if our SSDs are not handling D_SYNC very well? We invested a ton of money into Samsung 840 EVOS and they are not playing well with D_SYNC. Would really appreciate the help! Thank you, Bryson ___ ceph-users

Re: [ceph-users] Help with SSDs

2014-12-17 Thread Christian Balzer
Hello, On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:58:23 -0700 Bryson McCutcheon wrote: Hey there, Is there a good work around if our SSDs are not handling D_SYNC very well? We invested a ton of money into Samsung 840 EVOS and they are not playing well with D_SYNC. Would really appreciate the help! Baring

Re: [ceph-users] Help with SSDs

2014-12-17 Thread Mikaël Cluseau
On 12/17/2014 02:58 AM, Bryson McCutcheon wrote: Is there a good work around if our SSDs are not handling D_SYNC very well? We invested a ton of money into Samsung 840 EVOS and they are not playing well with D_SYNC. Would really appreciate the help! Just in case it's linked with the recent

Re: [ceph-users] Help with SSDs

2014-12-17 Thread Udo Lembke
Hi Mikaël, I have EVOs too, what to you mean by not playing well with D_SYNC? Is there something I can test on my side to compare results with you, as I have mine flashed? http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2014/10/10/ceph-how-to-test-if-your-ssd-is-suitable-as-a-journal-device/ described how

Re: [ceph-users] Help with SSDs

2014-12-17 Thread Alexandre DERUMIER
-users ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Envoyé: Jeudi 18 Décembre 2014 03:16:07 Objet: Re: [ceph-users] Help with SSDs On 12/17/2014 02:58 AM, Bryson McCutcheon wrote: Is there a good work around if our SSDs are not handling D_SYNC very well? We invested a ton of money into Samsung 840 EVOS

Re: [ceph-users] Help with SSDs

2014-12-17 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Looking at the blog, I notice he disabled the write cache before the tests: doing this on my m550 resulted in *improved* dsync results (300 IOPS - 700 IOPS) still not great obviously, but ... interesting. So do experiment with the settings to see if you can get the 840's working better for