Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-04-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
gt; From: Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC > To: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC , "Taylor, Karl E." > , "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: > area_fraction > > Dear Martin, Karl, et al, >

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-04-18 Thread Taylor, Karl E.
vironmental Data AnalysisEmail: > alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk > STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory > R25, 2.22 > Harwell Oxford, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K. > > > -Original Message- > From: CF-metadata On Behalf Of Martin > Juckes - UKRI STFC > Sent: 15

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-04-18 Thread Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC
on.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory R25, 2.22 Harwell Oxford, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K. -Original Message- From: CF-metadata On Behalf Of Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC Sent: 15 February 2019 09:21 To: Taylor, Karl E. ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadat

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-02-15 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
2019 06:08:31 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction Hi Alison, Looks good to me. Perhaps Martin can weigh in on whether or not the phrase "or any other dimensionless representation of a fraction" is ne

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-02-11 Thread Taylor, Karl E.
-Original Message- > From: CF-metadata On Behalf Of Taylor, > Karl E. > Sent: 07 February 2019 17:24 > To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: > area_fraction > > HI Martin and all, > > I agree that the b

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-02-11 Thread Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC
sed across a wide range of disciplines and as far as possible all > of it has to be consistent and intelligible to everyone. > > Best wishes > > Jonathan > > > - Forwarded message from Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC > - > >> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 12

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-02-07 Thread Taylor, Karl E.
> to > be consistent and intelligible to everyone. > > Best wishes > > Jonathan > > > - Forwarded message from Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC > - > >> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 12:16:06 + >> From: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC >> To: John Gr

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-02-07 Thread Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC
essage from Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC - > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 12:16:06 + > From: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC > To: John Graybeal , Jim Biard > > Cc: "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: >

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-02-07 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
6 Feb 2019 12:16:06 + > From: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC > To: John Graybeal , Jim Biard > Cc: "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: >area_fraction > > Hello John, others, > > > Thanks for t

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-02-06 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
ions)? regards, Martin From: CF-metadata on behalf of John Graybeal Sent: 01 February 2019 07:12 To: Jim Biard Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction Martin, I like your definition. Wh

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-01-31 Thread John Graybeal
rrect with it, as you say. Could we instead add a note >> to the definitions pointing out that percent is acceptable as a unit for >> them? >> >> Best wishes >> >> Jonathan >> >> - Forwarded message from Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC >> --

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-01-31 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
(STFC,RAL,RALSP); CF-metadata (cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu) Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction Martin, On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:32 AM Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC mailto:martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk>> wrote: In the interests of clarity, could you s

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-01-31 Thread Steven Emmerson
Martin, On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:32 AM Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC < martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk> wrote: > In the interests of clarity, could you say why the option I've proposed is > not in your list? > I'm sorry. I thought you proposed not using the word "fraction", so that, for example,

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-01-31 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
are standard is perceived by others. regards, Martin From: Steven Emmerson Sent: 31 January 2019 16:02 To: Juckes, Martin (STFC,RAL,RALSP) Cc: CF-metadata (cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu) Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-01-31 Thread Jim Biard
m: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC To: Steven Emmerson Cc: "CF-metadata (cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu)" Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction Hi Steve, The issue is more that CF allows more freedom in the choice of units than many people ex

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-01-31 Thread Steven Emmerson
ts, I feel it would be better to avoid having the term "fraction" in the > standard name, given that it is often interpreted as implying a specific > choice for the units. > > > regards, > > Martin > > > ________________ > From: Steve

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-01-31 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
-- > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:40:12 + > From: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC > To: Steven Emmerson > Cc: "CF-metadata (cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu)" > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: >area_fraction > > Hi Steve, > >

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-01-30 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
n (STFC,RAL,RALSP) Cc: CF-metadata (cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu) Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 12:54 PM Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC mailto:martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk>> wrote: I'm afraid I don't understand your comment. Wh

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-01-30 Thread Steven Emmerson
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 12:54 PM Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC < martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk> wrote: > > I'm afraid I don't understand your comment. When I search for "fraction" > in the NIST document I find it defined as being a ratio, which is > inconsistent with the current CF usage. The CF standard

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-01-30 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
as a "fraction". I'm suggesting a change to remove this inconsistency, regards, Martin From: Steven Emmerson Sent: 30 January 2019 17:27 To: Juckes, Martin (STFC,RAL,RALSP) Cc: CF-metadata (cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu) Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putt

Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: area_fraction

2019-01-30 Thread Steven Emmerson
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:36 AM Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC < martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk> wrote: > Could we avoid this confusion in the future by replacing the term with a > more neutral term, such as "area_cover"? > That would be inconsistent with the NIST recommendation. See <