Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines

2005-11-19 Thread John C. Bland II
Is there an equivalent for Flash (AS 2.0), Flex, and CF 7? On 11/18/05, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 11/18/05, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you going to get a chance to take a first cut at this? If not, can > you > > point me to someplace that I can use to do so? > >

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
> "see the light"... I don't remember if I explicitly mentioned FuseDocs > back then but I did think FLiP was pretty lame (see link above). Like so many other things, detailed use of fusedocs and the FLiP process are really about personal style. I happen to dislike them both, despite a couple hon

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On 11/19/05, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To open a can of worms can you elaborate? Most of what I disliked about FB3 is implied in this review of the FB3 book: http://corfield.org/index.cfm/event/fusebox.fusebook > I know some > version-agnostic things about Fusebox (li

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On 11/19/05, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The web flows in a procedural way. It's just a byproduct of HTTP, and > no real way around it. Yes, this is an extremely important point that many people seem to gloss over. Even trying to overlay MVC on the web interaction model is not a

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On 11/19/05, Peter Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, you can announce events in your listeners, however you cannot clear the > event queue (well, you could if you access some "untouchable" stuff in the > request scope). But you can in a filter - which is really just a different type of l

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
> I was very public about my dislike for FB3 but FB4 began to persuade > me and FB41 is very compelling in my opinion. To open a can of worms can you elaborate? I know some version-agnostic things about Fusebox (like fusedocs) took some persuasion for you to see the light. Surely that w

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Sean Corfield
I agree completely with Barney here and would refer folks to these posts by, respectively, Joe Rinehart and Ben Edwards about the "implicit" part of the invocation process in Mach II: http://clearsoftware.net/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=FFC3E60A-E081-2BAC-69C5B0BD2C8DE3C0 http://benedwards.

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On 11/19/05, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fusebox 4 was developed specifically for CFMX, and doesn't use OO or > CFCs. Just because it don't have the buzzword compliance doesn't make > a framework bad. Heck, FB3 which was designed for CF4 is still a very > viable framework. Which

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On 11/19/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been looking at mach-II and model-glue as my two possibilities. > Has anyone used both and has any comments on which one they liked best and > why. Read my frameworks comparison presentation and look at the frameworks sample code that goes wit

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On 11/19/05, Peter Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The distinguishing factor between M2 and MG for controller code is a name -- > controller (MG) or listener (M2). In essense, they act in the same way. > It's merely a semantic difference IMHO. I beg to differ... The more important differ

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
> The ability to announce events in listeners is so you can leverage > event-mappings -- which are extremely useful. I certianly agree, and that's really no different that MG's results. But in MG you can ONLY announce results, you can't announce arbitrary events like in M2. Theorectically, you

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Farrell
> > The distinguishing factor between M2 and MG for controller code is a > name -- controller (MG) or listener (M2). In essense, they act in the > same way. It's merely a semantic difference IMHO. > > On that narrow point, yes. ;) > > MG has the (significant, in my view) advantage that contr

Re: CFUnit ... Getting started

2005-11-19 Thread Robert Blackburn
> So, I go to write a unit test around a simple bean object. First test, > setName(name) Okay, obviously I need to pass in a string to this > method, but as it is a setter, it does not return anything. So, what > am I really testing here ... that the method does not blow up, or how > wou

Re: CFUnit ... Getting started

2005-11-19 Thread Robert Blackburn
On 11/18/05, Jeff D. Chastain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, I go to write a unit test around a simple bean object. First test, > setName(name) > Okay, obviously I need to pass in a string to this method, but as it is a > setter, it does not > return anything. So, what am I really testin

RE: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours (Out of the Office)

2005-11-19 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Just filter emails with "I will be out of the office" in the body ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Jeff Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 5:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF-Talk: Digest e

RE: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours (Out of the Office)

2005-11-19 Thread Adrian Lynch
Well if you have "issues"... "Please refer any IT issues to Chris Terrebonne or Tommy Nguyen." give them a call! :OD -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2005 22:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours (Out of the Office) just

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
> The distinguishing factor between M2 and MG for controller code is a name -- > controller (MG) or listener (M2). In essense, they act in the same way. > It's merely a semantic difference IMHO. On that narrow point, yes. ;) MG has the (significant, in my view) advantage that control returns

Re: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours (Out of the Office)

2005-11-19 Thread Will Tomlinson
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Re: CF Hosting

2005-11-19 Thread Will Tomlinson
couple of quirks here and there (I.E., I don't think they have robust > error messages enabled in the CF servers), but you can't beat the > price. I remember Ben saying robust error messages shouldn't be enabled on a production server anyway. Will ~

Re: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours (Out of the Office)

2005-11-19 Thread Dana
just please nobody else turn an autoresponder on On 11/19/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I already sent MikeD an email but it is the Sabbath remember. Maybe > not for much longer, does it end at sundown? > > On 11/19/05, Jeff Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please tell me we aren't

Re: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours (Out of the Office)

2005-11-19 Thread Dana
I already sent MikeD an email but it is the Sabbath remember. Maybe not for much longer, does it end at sundown? On 11/19/05, Jeff Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please tell me we aren't going to get this every 8 hrs for the next week... > > > > -Original Message- > From: Mike McCon

RE: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Snake
I personally don't like FB and wouldn't use it. But my own framework is similar in some ways, just a lot simpler. -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2005 20:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Mach-II vs model-glue Fusebox 4 was developed speci

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Farrell
First off, I know I'm biased -- considering my involvement in the 1.1.0 release of Mach-II. >I happen to like MG better than M2, but it's more of a style thing >than anything about the frameworks themselves. I think MG is more >helpful in distinguishing what is controller code and what is model

RE: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours (Out of the Office)

2005-11-19 Thread Jeff Anderson
Please tell me we aren't going to get this every 8 hrs for the next week... -Original Message- From: Mike McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 16:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours (Out of the Office) I will be out of the office f

Re: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours (Out of the Office)

2005-11-19 Thread Mike McConnell
I will be out of the office from Monday November 21 through Friday, November 25. Please refer any IT issues to Chris Terrebonne or Tommy Nguyen. I'll be back in the office on Monday, November 28. M. McConnell ~| Logware (www.

Re: Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
Fusebox 4 was developed specifically for CFMX, and doesn't use OO or CFCs. Just because it don't have the buzzword compliance doesn't make a framework bad. Heck, FB3 which was designed for CF4 is still a very viable framework. Which isn't to say you should pick up a new framework (or three), of

Mach-II vs model-glue

2005-11-19 Thread Snake
I have decided it is about to upgrade my framework. While mine still works great, it was developer prior to MX, so is not oo and doesn't use CFC's I have been looking at mach-II and model-glue as my two possibilities. Has anyone used both and has any comments on which one they liked best and why.

RE: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines

2005-11-19 Thread Andy
Perfect. Thanks -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Open Source Shopping Cart Coding Guidelines On 11/18/05, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you going to get a chance to take a first cu

RE: CFX_IMAP4 ... or .. ?

2005-11-19 Thread Dawson, Michael
I'm working on a similar project. We have daily newsletters that are sent from our University Relations group. These are saved in an Exchange mailbox on a regular basis. I created a page that uses cfx_imap4 to pull these messages, save the attachments to a folder, then saves the actual email mes

Re: RC4 - CFLib

2005-11-19 Thread Mike Garner
Here's what I've found, but I haven't figured out a workable solution yet... The RC4 encryption/decryption works perfectly unless it encounters a NULL string in the encryption/decryption process. Since CF does not handle NULL character and returns an empty string, that position does not get en

RE: Upper/Lowercase

2005-11-19 Thread Larry Juncker
I concedethat is a better test. Larry Juncker President & CEO ALJ Computer Services, LLC 1445 So 27th Street Fort Dodge, IA 50501 Office 515-576-0885 Fax 515-576-8510 Cell 515-571-1826 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Satu

Re: Help system in CF

2005-11-19 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>I'm looking for examples, tips, tricks, tutorials, I you care for something ready to work, have a look at CF_onLineHelp here: http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/onlineHelp/viewonlineHelp.cfm -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.conten

Re: Upper/Lowercase

2005-11-19 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>and return Not ALpha, Upper or Lower. It still does not return proper info for international characters. Since CF is a multilingual application, the least would be the function to be compatible with uCase and lCase CF functions and Locale settings. So I maintain this to be a better solution :

Re: Upper/Lowercase

2005-11-19 Thread Larry Juncker
I have updated my isUpperLower UDF. I am including the code here for anyone who would like a copy. It will check the submittesd character to see if is an AlphaNumeric Upper or Lower case and return Not ALpha, Upper or Lower. /** * Checks to see if a letter submitted is Alphanumeric Upper or

Help system in CF

2005-11-19 Thread Michel Deloux
Hi all I'm looking for examples, tips, tricks, tutorials, ... about how to build a dynamic help system with CF. Data will be stored in DB and users can build the menu and related subjects. Any help will be very appreciated. Cheers MD

Re: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours (Out of the Office)

2005-11-19 Thread Mike McConnell
I will be out of the office from Monday November 21 through Friday, November 25. Please refer any IT issues to Chris Terrebonne or Tommy Nguyen. I'll be back in the office on Monday, November 28. M. McConnell ~| Discover CFTi

Re: Multiple Row Insert Into SQL from another database

2005-11-19 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
800 or even 2400 SQL inserts won't be a big deal, load-wise. I've handled that many queries in minutes. Are the two databases on separate servers? What I would do is use a stored procedure that first checks for the existence of the record; if the record exists, don't insert, otherwise, do. That

Re: CF Hosting

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Tilbrook
Or bugger that and contact Mike Kear at AFPWebworks. Have been "using" him for years and quite satisfied considering we are both in Australia and the servers are in the USofA. Email him a [EMAIL PROTECTED] and discuss your requirements as I am sure he will be able to assist. Regards, PT Manage

RE: CF Hosting

2005-11-19 Thread Snake
Never, we don't do linux as we are a windows house. The majority of people use windows anyway, especially for CF. -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 November 2005 21:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Hosting Ok, but when are you going to have CF/Linux