opencfsummit.org may have saved my job

2012-01-07 Thread Donna Bing
Hi all! I asked about this conference http://opencfsummit.org a year ago and the conversation kind of went off on various tangents: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:62499 Anyway I didn't end up getting to go because of a schedule conflict with a project we

Re: opencfsummit.org may have saved my job

2012-01-07 Thread James Holmes
As an aside, if a client wants to cut costs they can always go with Railo, into which they can port CF code almost as-is. -- Shu Ha Ri: Agile and .NET blog http://www.bifrost.com.au/ On 7 January 2012 20:39, Donna Bing bingdo...@ymail.com wrote: Hi all! I asked about this conference

Re: opencfsummit.org may have saved my job

2012-01-07 Thread Maureen
True. I moved 72 sites to Railo without needing to change a single line of CF code. On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 4:54 AM, James Holmes james.hol...@gmail.com wrote: As an aside, if a client wants to cut costs they can always go with Railo, into which they can port CF code almost as-is.

Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Phillip Vector
I'm thinking of getting a dedicated server, but can't afford the coldfusion license. Which open source is more compatible with Fusebox? Also, overall, which one has the last headache getting to work with code developed with the developer server of Coldfusion?

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Stemle
Railo claims that Fusebox is compatible from what I can see. I've only played with Railo so far, but both of them seem like a bit of a pain to install on anything but Windows. That said, I run regular apache, so maybe that's what makes it complicated. I'm running my CCFAN development stuff on

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Judah McAuley
Railo has fairly new installers done by Jordan Michaels at Vivotech (a great place to host, btw). If you haven't tried them out, you ought to. They work quite nicely on Windows and Linux (and OS X I believe, though I've not used them there). It takes care of the Apache setup and installs Tomcat

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Stemle
So you have a link? I'm mobile at the moment. By the way, would anybody be up for a Skype call this evening (us central time)? I had an idea I sent over the list a bit ago that I wanted to bounce off f some other folks for creating an open source repository of components similar to CPAN

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Judah McAuley
The Railo 3.3/Tomcat 7 installers are available to download from here: http://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/download/ I won't be around this evening, I think, but it sounds like a potentially interesting idea. I'm guessing you are talking about a way wrapper that knows how to fetch and install

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Russ Michaels
Viviotech's used to be the only installer, but there is now an alternative, which is easier/better if you are on windows/IIS and don't specifically want Tomcat , doesn't require any vhost config, or vDirs or isapi filters, just enable Railo on your site in IIS and that's it. plus has the

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Raymond Camden
What about hitting up a ColdFusion Reseller? You may be able to get a deal. On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: I'm thinking of getting a dedicated server, but can't afford the coldfusion license. Which open source is more compatible with Fusebox?

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Michael Stemle
Components, too. I use cf for more robust programming, I suspect others do as well. A lot of the third party libraries out there are either not peer-reviewed or not freely distributable. I think those are problems for a community. Everybody can benefit from peer-reviewed and freely

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Phillip Vector
Are there people out there who want to sell their license? On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: What about hitting up a ColdFusion Reseller? You may be able to get a deal. On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.com

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Russ Michaels
Just FYI, if you want ColdFusion then you can rent a CF license from many hosts. For example we provide CF enterprise on a VPS from £50per month On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: Are there people out there who want to sell their license? On Sat,

Re: opencfsummit.org may have saved my job

2012-01-07 Thread Russ Michaels
or open bluedragon On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: True. I moved 72 sites to Railo without needing to change a single line of CF code. On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 4:54 AM, James Holmes james.hol...@gmail.com wrote: As an aside, if a client wants to cut

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Phillip Vector
Yeah.. I know. I do that now. But I was looking to get a cheaper solution then 50 a month. :) More like 20-30 a month (which is what my host will offer if I can provide my own license since then they don't need to use theirs). On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Russ Michaels
if you are using your own license then the cost should be 0 as they are providing nothing other than the VPS. you need to remember how much CF enterprise costs, $8000+, and the license only allows this to be deployed 10x in the cloud, so even at £50 it takes a long time for any host to make their

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Rick Mason
Phil, Always check eBay out for CF licenses. I did a quick check and found a CF-9 standard with a buy now price of $670. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adobe-ColdFusion-9-Standard-Edition-New-PN-65047432-/300640625636?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item45ff93e3e4 Just make sure its not an OEM copy or an

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Phillip Vector
Yeah.. Right now, I don't have enough for that. :) Hence my inquiring about the different open source solutions. If I can get a dedicated server and not have to pay the license cost above that, it would be doable for me. But I program almost completely in fusebox, so that's why I asked. On Sat,

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Jordan Michaels
Russ, I miss your nickname, snake, being in your email address. Why did you remove it? Phillip, in all honesty, I really like the HeliconTech platform and I think they've done a great job with it. One of the beauties of OSS is that different people and organizations can incorporate software

Re: opencfsummit.org may have saved my job

2012-01-07 Thread Donna Bing
Yeah it looks like the folks behind http://getrailo.org/ and http://openbluedragon.org/ are both among the many sponsors of this conference... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Russ Michaels
as I think others have mentioned, a lot of code will run on Railo or OBD without any changes at all. In my experience of converting sites to Railo here are the main things I have had to handle. no flash forms. .cfr files will not run as no cfreport, but you can use jasperReports instead issues

Re: Rialo or Open Blue Dragon

2012-01-07 Thread Russ Michaels
yes the additional memory usage is much higher, you are looking at 120mb at least for site/instance, so if you have a lot of small sites and not a lot of memory then the Tomcat version may be better. tomcat also has a lot of other advantages/features if you want to do clustering and such. We are

DOCCOUNT still equals zero

2012-01-07 Thread Kevin Parker
Be grateful if another set of eyes can spot why this has been causing me grief all day - I think I've been looking at it too long is part of the problem. Have created 2 Verity collections (CF8) - one for data and one for docs. Data one works fine. No matter what I do the doccount for the