On 11/10/2011 8:39 AM, Gerald Guido wrote:
Wait.. does that mean that CF is undead? And part of the impending zombie
Apocalypse? Sweet!
CF is dying - no matter what the usual suspects say. The sad part is that CF is
dying because potential newcomers to the language do not have a thriving
And on cue here comes the trolls.
Wil Genovese
One man with courage makes a majority.
-Andrew Jackson
A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Irvin Gomez wrote:
And the insults are on cue, too
I know I'll be insulted, but the truth must be said: Coldfusion is
dying a slow death ...
I just hope that when it's my time to go, my death will be as slow.
Sincerely hope you are right and I'm wrong.
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Not this again.
You asked for it, boy :-)
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To be clear - CFLib is slow to update because I'm 200% busy. If I
didn't have work, I'd have more time for CFLib. To me, this is a good
problem to have.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Irvin Gomez ir...@pixel69.com wrote:
I specifically mentioned you as an example of why Coldfusion is dying
To give a littler perspective, Irvin, I'm hiring developers currently
in one language and working on learning a couple others myself.
[...]
Cheers,
Judah
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Irvin Gomez ir...@pixel69.com wrote:
The reason Coldfusion is dying a slow death has nothing to do
I think you'll find that all of the powerful voices in CF have been
begging Adobe to do more for years.
Perhaps 'begging is the wrong approach. Perhap they should tell Adobe - in a
clear manner - that Coldfusion is dying from pure neglect.
Why won't Adobe PAY some of the more knowledgeable
Typical denial, mixed with a bunch of strawman arguments.
I specifically mentioned you as an example of why Coldfusion is
dying a very slow death: why are you the
one with all the responsibility? Where is the rest of the community
these days?
CFLib is Ray's responsibility because
You seem to think that web development is a winner-take-all market.
But it isn't. There's room for plenty of web development languages.
CF
is one of those languages. Not everyone has to use CF for it to be a
successful product. It just has to make money for Adobe.
I wish the Pollyanna
If you truly believe what you say you would not criticize me because...I'm
criticizing others :-)
And yes, it is Adobe's responsibility. It is Adobe's product.
It's not up to teenagers to promote Nike. Nike has to pay the big names to
promote Nike products, so that teenagers buy them. That's
Your post - which basically amounted to using 10 paragraphs to call me a trool
- did not deserve much of an answer.
In any case, why 10 years?
Typical denial, mixed with a bunch of strawman arguments.
That's one hell of a rebuttal. Let's reconvene on this ten years from now, ok?
I don't know how long you've been working with computers, Irvin, but
no language wins. We develop and evolve. The problems we try to
solve change. We figure out new ways of tackling old problems. Best
practices come and go.
I never used the word wins. That's your perception. And no, no
Adobe will do what they will do. I don't really have any control over
that, do you? Unless you're a secret majority shareholder, I'm
guessing the answer is no.
I agree - we do not have any control over what Adobe does. But that doesn't
mean we can't have a little fun expressing and
I would never call you a trool. Because I have a spell-checker.
Childish.
Perhaps I'm being ungenerous, but that kind of response from you
indicates to me that you don't take this seriously enough to engage
your brain cells and actually read what was written.
More childish attack.
But now that you put it your way, yeah, I agree that I think you're a
jerk.
Cheers,
Juda
Don't get so angry. My opinion should not be that important to you. ;-)
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Just a brief note to announce that I'm quitting the list immediately. My mail
box has received quite a bit of truly nasty stuff as a result of my debate
(with Dave Watts, mostly) over CF's future.
There is no need for this type of unprofessional behavior, so I'd rather quit -
even though I
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I sent an email to Ray - hopefully he will find it good enough for inclusion.
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I've had problems yesterday and today loading the AIR demo. I tried FF4,
Chrome 11 and IE8 on two different internet connections. The modal opens
and the player appears but the movie never starts. If I click play, the
movie turns dark gray and stops.
Also, the cfspreadsheet demo has a dark
Nope, it didn't work for me. I had to click the link and view it in my
browser. If Adobe were truly committed to CF, I wouldn't need to
actually click the link. Rather, uniformed penguins in sequin jackets
would deliver the demos to me on feather-stuffed pillows while
simultaneously singing a
, May 11, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Irvin Gomez ir...@pixel69.com
wrote:
The Adobe Coldfusion 9 demos do not work and have not worked for who
knows how long. I guess that's the best way to show Adobe's commitment
to its comatose product.
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/demos
Really? You come in here with the intention to insult and raise ire and act
like you were innocently conveying a message. Geek please.
Keep blindly defending the unwarranted attack. I posted facts and all the
groupies ganged up on me. Childish and pathetic.
The Adobe Coldfusion 9 demos do not work and have not worked for who knows how
long. I guess that's the best way to show Adobe's commitment to its comatose
product.
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/demos/
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Hi folks
What is the best way of downloading web database to a local desktop machine.
clients register for programs and the information is on the web database.
I want to use coldfusion to update my local desktop
Coming from a design, not programming, background, I embraced Coldfusion for
all the well-known reasons: easy to use, easy to learn, easy, easy...you get
the idea.
With the advent of more advanced features, everywhere I go I see a big push for
moving Coldfusion and Coldfusion development into
Coming from a design, not programming, background, I embraced
Coldfusion for all the well-known reasons: easy to use, easy to learn,
easy, easy...you get the idea.
With the advent of more advanced features, everywhere I go I see a big
push for moving Coldfusion and Coldfusion
Thanks, everyone for all the different perspectives. I know that if I were
looking at coldfusion for the first time these days, with all the OOP and
framework talk dominating the 'airwaves', I'd probably go with PHP or something
else, because there is no real benefit to Coldfusion if the
sorry - this should have been a reply on the other thread. no idea how it ended
up here...
Thanks, everyone for all the different perspectives. I know that if I
were looking at coldfusion for the first time these days, with all the
OOP and framework talk dominating the 'airwaves', I'd
I think if you were looking at CF for the first time these days,
you'd be looking at the features that were consistent with your skill set.
If you were a beginner, you'd probably be pretty happy that CF can
get
you up and writing web applications pretty darn quickly.
CF is a very
Given the complexity of licensing options under this cloud platform (?),
perhaps it would be a good idea for Adobe to configure a number of servers with
Coldfusion and then just bill users for the time instantiating them, much like
Amazon is doing.
The whole Amazon EC2 concept looks incredibly
Authorize.net.
There are several tags for it.
Whats the easiest gateway to deal with (as in program a solution
for... preferably something with a tag already developed) with respect
to setting up recurring payments? Ideally it would support monthly
and weekly open-ended. It would also have to
interest in the topics.
Irvin Gomez wrote:
What about a poor man's captcha based on your idea? It would work like
this:
But then why wouldn't you just use a captcha?
You say poor man's captcha but you don't have to have money to
generate captcha images. There are a variety of solutions out
I nominate Massimo Foti for some position in the top 3. While there are other
guys who know as much as he does, there are only VERY few who make efficient
use of the language to solve every-day tasks in an elegant, practical matter.
What I mean, I'd rather have Massimo than Ben Forta on my side
Hi, everyone!
I'm developing a small blog application for a client. Trying to minimize spam
whithout using a CAPTCHA (to keep matters simple), I came up with this idea
(similar to Cragilist's post verification):
Require email verification the first time only.
It would work like this:
1.
Thanks, Rick!
What about a poor man's captcha based on your idea? It would work like this:
1. Create, say, 10 images, each one containing a simple, easy-to-read word.
2. Set a list of matching words in the request scope.
3. Show images ramdomly, asking user to input the word on the image.
4.
What about adding a last_changed column to your table. The initial value
would be the date the record was entered. On edits to that record, this value
would be edited (changed) to reflect the date those edits took place.
Then, finding records that didn't change in the last seven days is a
Is anyone out there seriously coding using the CFFORM flash forms? I
am seeing no improvement in performance in this area but users are
seduced by the look and feel and think this is the way to go.
Can someone suggest a good discussion on CFFORM flash pros and
cons?
I would like to see
I agree with Bobby. Style sheets originally come from print graphics
applications such as Quark, where they are used to more easily control the
look and feel of text elements. That was also the original idea (I think)
for their use on the web. People seem to enjoy twisting themselves into
I'd write my own. The ones you mentioned are all limiting in some way.
Plus, customizing them sucks!
Write your own shoppingcart.cfc and the sky's the limit!
I agree.
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I like FCKEditor v1.6.
Version 2 is out with additional features (like form creation, tables, fonts,
colors, etc). Some people love them; I consider them useless and potentially
dangerous - if given too many options, users will soon destroy the site's look.
(it should be pointed out that you
Correction: the features I listed as new were there in previous versions. New
features are flash objects, support for Active FoxPro Pages, etc.
I like FCKEditor v1.6.
Version 2 is out with additional features (like form creation, tables,
fonts, colors, etc). Some people love them; I
of solves this problem (it lacks image
preview).
Perhaps TinyMCE has adressed this, in which case it would make sense to give it
a second look, because it certainly beats FCKEDitor on presentation alone.
-Original Message-
From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I like FCKEditor
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
My favourite is the way I could upload and .exe and a .bat file..
Nice tact. How about you email the original poster off-list with your
feeback/concerns/questions. Everytime someone posts a tool on this list
people seem to go out of their way to act like
Hey All,
I've got a MySQL Datasource in CF MX 7 (installed as a J2EE instance)
and I did some workaround to make the datasource work with MySQL 4.1
(the one shipped is for 3.x). The problem is now that the datasource
verifies, any query using CFQUERYPARAM on a numeric field will return
Got a link to info on ConnectorJ Ken?? ;-)
See the link I provided. It works perfectly well.
and yes...yer rightthe MySQL Connector is what I'm using now (it's not
CF specificit's a JAR you can add to CF)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge
I had a problem with cfchart crashing my development machine (but the same code
working fine on the server). We Mike Nimer's help, we traced it to some fonts
installed in my machine (they were chess fonts - bitmapped fonts for chess
diagrams). As soon as we iuninstalled the fonts (just taking
You can save the grouped output to a variable using cfsavecontent.
I'm trying to group my content in a cfmail tag.
I don't need to group the emails (it's only being sent
to one person, but I need to group the queried content
within the email.
Like
Group 1
blah blah blah
Group 2
blah blah blah
Yes, your rants and paranoid conspiracy theories belong on a personal
blog... for which I will avoid.
-Adam
You're right. It's..um.CF TALK!
Adrocknaphobia wrote:
Come on man, cf-talk is not your blog.
-Adam
Totally uncalled for. The guy is making a valid point and this type
Another way is to export the Excel data as a tab-delimited text file and then
read the file's content and parse it with this UDF:
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=855
Good luck!
This will get you there:
http://www.emerle.net/programming/display.cfm/t/cfx_excel2query
While that looks
There are not many versions of Spanish anywhere. Just like the are not many
eversions of English.
This is a myth.
I'd be very, very careful of any machine translation into Spanish. There is
actually many versions of Spanish as well, depending on where you are. We
had an interpreter take a
Irvin Gomez wrote:
There are not many versions of Spanish anywhere. Just like the are
not many eversions of English.
This is a myth.
so explain.
It's quite simple, actually:
Just like English, Spanish has it own slang (nuts for testicles), regional
expressions (bloke/guy in England
Isn't this called dialect?
Ray
Irvin Gomez wrote:
No.
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Why not?
Dialect: A variety of a language distinguished by variations of accent,
grammar, or vocabulary. - (from McGraw-Hill site)
Sounds like it to me
Ray
Irvin Gomez wrote:
If you think that the USA has several English dialects, then there's not much
I can explain to you
What was that
ROTFLMAO
Irvin Gomez wrote:
Just like English, Spanish has it own slang (nuts for testicles),
regional expressions (bloke/guy in England/USA), local words
(jambalaya in New Orleans), etc. That doesn't, however, prevent any
native Spanish speaker from communicating without
irvin, im with you up to a point.
there are MANY MANY dialects in the United States, heck, where i come
from there are more than 5, within a 40 mile radius.
TRUST ME.
there are many versions.
tony
On 4/22/05, Paul Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, Tony, I'm in NY. I counted 347 last
I didn't mean to offend you, so I'm glad you didn't take offense :-)
Now, back to the mini-argument: we could spend the rest of our lives here,
debating what is and what isn't a dialect. After all, REAL experts still debate
the concept, as a cursory internet search will quickly confirm.
My
That's exactly my point, Claude. I'm glad I'm not alone here :-)
huh? a dialect is a regional variety of a language
Right, but this is much more than just a few different words.
Most of the time, people speaking the standard laguage hardly
understand, if not at all, people speaking the
This will get you there:
http://www.emerle.net/programming/display.cfm/t/cfx_excel2query
I have to read a few hundred rows of excel data into a database. A
record for each row.
I saw some CFCs that do this or at least read them into a list but
I've not been able to get CFCs to work in our
http://cftags.josephdevore.com/index.cfm?act=tags.upsmx
I don't mind buying one if it's good. If you have one or know of one
please let me know ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I want one that will basicaly tell the user the shipping rate based on
address and weight.
Thanks,
Brian Yager
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2005/adobe_macromedia.html
I say, PREPARE FOR IT. This is worse than the Y2K catastrophe.
I have stocked my bunker with:
700 Gallons of Bottled Water
7 boxes of matches
300 cans of Spam (of the edible variety)
45 Gas Masks in 3 different sizes, just
are
volunteered by developers just like yourself, developers who also (I assume)
have real jobs. If you want better examples, just write them. Mike will be
more than happy to post them for you.
--- Ben
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From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 28
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=6ef0253
I just loaded MySql to my development machine. I have MySql up and
running and even created the database I will be using. I am trying to
set up a DSN in CFAdmin but it keeps failing. Since this is a
non-server machine
I don't honestly know, since I first installed MySQL about 2 months ago (v4.1).
The process was very straightforward with the Windows Essentials package. I
folloed the instructions on that page and everything is working without a hitch.
Sorry I can't be of more help :-)
Irvin Gomez [EMAIL
Nice effort, but not much attention to detail. Most of the examples are really
clumsily put together. Heck, even the form on the contact page
(http://www.cfform.com/contact.cfm) won't enforce any sort of validation on the
email field!
Given that Macromedia bribed Jakob Nilsen into stopping his
am
thankful for the time MIke and all the other Macromedian's put in
bringing this technology to us.
simeon
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:13:27 -0400, Irvin Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Nice effort, but not much attention to detail. Most of the examples
are really clumsily put together. Heck
It depends on the particular situation. I have a client who needs to make a lot
of legal documents (as PDF or MS Word) available online and the document
upload/linking in FCKEditor is the perfect solution: it works flawlessly and
it's a one-step process.
As far as allowing minimal formatting
Does TinyMCE provide image and document upload/linking, like FCKEDitor?
TinyMCE is the bomb, especially for xhtml/css support.
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From: Mickael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 5:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: HTML Editor
Hi Dustin
I was
It must be a problem with Crystaltech.
No other hosting company has suffered the same problem. You do the math...
I've been following the Crystaltech session issue with moderate
interest. I say moderate because its not really my problem yet, as I
and my clients are running either CF 6.1 or CF
Yahoo maps instructions here:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/maps/maps-26.html
I searched the MM exchange, but the tags that I found don't seem to
work
anymore due to updates in the mappers sites.
Anyone have a tag or link to a function where I can pass the address
and
get a map?
It seems they are the only ones having the problem (and they are clearly trying
to blame Macromedia). I'm glad I left them about 3 years ago. No hard feelings
(because it wasn't that bad), but I couldn't take the lack of transparency when
dealing with problems. In other words, when everything
that anyone using Flash forms might want to do?
Rick Mason
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:56:11 -0400, Irvin Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Sorry for the OT, but, given that I started the Flash forms thread here, this
follow-up would be (kind of) appropriate, too.
With Mike's extensive (about 2 hours on phone/breeze) help we tested all
possible reasons for the initial delay in loading (had been about 5 seconds). A
few adjustments
With Mike's extensive (about 2 hours on phone/breeze) help we tested all
possible reasons for the initial delay in loading (had been about 5 seconds). A
few adjustments to the CF Administrator and a freshly re-started computer made
the issue vanish.
While doing that, a far more interesting
Links appreciated.
Hard to believe, but I couldn't find any samples (or demos)of the actual forms
at the Macromedia site. (I'm not talking about their flash demos - I'm talking
about actual forms that can be submitted). I'm mostly interested in how quickly
they load, because they seem VERY
they aren't using CF7
Flash Forms. Same problem with Flex, Flash application are just not mature
enough to be used for anything even coming close to Enterprise applications.
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From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Thanks, Claude.
(and I'm not even beginning to investigate why a chart that worked perfectly
fine on MX 6.2 now crashes Coldfusion 7!!!)
Irvin
I'm mostly interested in how quickly they load, because they seem
VERY slow on my development machine.
They are very slow on ANY machine. Just visit
a
total time smaller then the previous vanilla form version. I think the
initial hit then is acceptible.
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:10:49 -0400, Irvin Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Thanks, Matt.
I agree with you that a 4-field form is not something to worry about (but that
was just an example of how EVEN a small form was quite slow).
I'm beginning to get the idea that Flash fomrs in Coldfusion 7 are just a
specialty item (not the best choice for every form), with buggy
Hi, everyone
I'm testing on my local machine and notice a marked delay in Coldfusion
rendering Flash forms or creating PDF/Flashpaper docs.
My question is: are there any actual samples of this somewhere on the web? I
don't mean the Flash demos Macromedia has. I'm talking about a real form that
http://www.twcreations.com/recordcount/
All,
I'm outputting a grouped query:
Group 1
- Item 1a
- Item 2a
- Item 3a
Group 2
- Item 1b
Group 3
- Item 1c
- Item 2c
and so on...
but the query results in a large number of records, so I want to add
next/previous paging.
The
Try:
cfx_excel2query
file=#excelfile#
firstRowIsHeader = 1
nodates
columnList=columns
r_qResults=orderlist
That will return a query object called orderlist and a variable named
columns that is a list of the column names in your excel file.
I am using
Use TinyMCE. It's much simpler.
http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/
Will
Looks nice, but regular (non-technical) users would have problems inserting
images. This type of editor really needs to let users preview/upload images.
Without that, it's of little value.
We only support version 5+ browsers.
BTW, a properly structured site will require minimal tweaking to make it work
consistently across browsers and platforms. Solid knowledge of CSS is required,
though.
I'm guessing that some good comments on my question are buried somewhere
in that 500
Before we officially claim a browser war, let's check the numbers a bit.
Number of internet users (worldwide): 934 million
Source: http://www.clickz.com/stats/web_worldwide/
Number of Firefox downloads: 8.5 million
Source: Mozilla.org
If those numbers are within the ballpark, it follows that AT
don't go comparing apples to oranges and assume the results have
any validity.
cheers,
barneyb
At least, the numbers serve as a guide. Better that than anecdotal (and
probably completely false) data like the one you provide.
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 16:54:35 -0400, Irvin Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
, Irvin Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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[1] Can you share that code for the logic btw?
Bob,
I'm just getting the current directory's name. Then, if it matches any of the links in the navigation bar, I change the class.
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They don't tie you to Dreamweaver - you're free to use
whatever editor you like if you're willing to forego the benefits of
templates in the future.
Your statement can be re-worded like this: The moment you sever your ties to Dreamweaver, the benefits of templates are not available to you
Ok, if they're not so good, what do you suggest for straight HTML
sites that can't use a scripting technology?
The simplest (and pretty obvious!) answer is: you just code yor page just line any of the millions of developers who don't use Dreamweaver.
On a more practical note, though:
Irvin, are you actually familiar with how DW templates and library items
work? They're not at all like Front Page or other proprietary tags or
objects. They're just regular HTML code surrounded by comments like:
Bob, I'm familiar with Dreamweaver templates and library items(I use Dremaweaver as
Yes, that's a documented feature.
Dreamweaver templates are not something to be recommended, if anything for the simple reason they don't offer anything that can't be done without them and tie the current (and future!) developers to Dreamweaver. That's a biggie, right there.
My 2 cents.
Sean
don't offer anything that can't be done without them and tie the current
(and future!) developers to
Dreamweaver. That's a biggie, right there.
I don't use DW templates myself, preferring instead DW library items or
server side includes. However, both DW templates and library items can speed
I must be missing something here, Robert. Isn't the situation you describe the text-book scenario for includes?
That said, let me show you how you can run into a nightmare situation by using library items:
You work with library items, make all necessary changes, update all related pages
Something like this, Robert?
http://www.reelwaters.com
A single include and no fancy code at all. A single page to maintain. No hassles.
I must be missing something here, Robert. Isn't the situation you describe
the text-book scenario for includes?
Like I said, without some sort of server
http://www.emerle.net/programming/deltree.cfm
does anyone know of a udf or custom tag that will easy remove
directories that are not empty?
steph
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Can someone point me in the right direction on allowing the end user to
save query results as an Excel or CSV file on their local machine? I am
using the following code, but it just displays the table on screen, and
does not save the file:
cfquery
If history is any indicator, 4/5 of whatever they announce will be garbage.
No reason to get too excited.
Irvin
In case you haven't heard about this yet.
On Wednesday, May 19th, come see the Macromedia Worldwide User Group meeting
for sneak peaks of new products. During the rest of the week of
Can someone please tell me how Dreamweaver determines when a
tag is nested incorrectly? I am using DWMX templates and it
keeps telling me that I have made changes out side of an
editable region (which I haven't) and tags are nest
improperly (which they aren't) I would just as soon turn
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