Re:Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-12-01 Thread Jeremy Brodie
/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Jeremy Brodie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 2:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together. (snip) You'll still have the problems

RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-12-01 Thread Samuel Neff
://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Jeremy Brodie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 8:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together. Samuel, This situation occurs when one tries

Re:Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-12-01 Thread Jeremy Brodie
Actually I'm not advocating moving away from JRUN (the benifits outweigh this issue). In my experiance, I was installing a CF and another application requiring to add classpaths to the JMC to run my application sucessfuly. In the case mentioned above the person was going to use JRUN to run an

Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Bosky, Dave
We seem to be having trouble getting JRUN4 and CFMX to work together. Are there any special tweaks or requirements needed to get the two working together? Do I need to use CFMX Enterprise version with JRUN 4 or will the standard version work just as well? I switched over to Tomcat in the time

Re: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Nick de Voil
We seem to be having trouble getting JRUN4 and CFMX to work together. There may be a way of getting a standalone JRun to play nice with the one in CFMX, but we couldn't figure it out. We gave up in the end and we're running our pure Java apps through CFMX Enterprise's built-in JRun as well

RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Dave Watts
We seem to be having trouble getting JRUN4 and CFMX to work together. Are there any special tweaks or requirements needed to get the two working together? Do I need to use CFMX Enterprise version with JRUN 4 or will the standard version work just as well? I'm not sure what you mean

RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Dave Watts
There may be a way of getting a standalone JRun to play nice with the one in CFMX, but we couldn't figure it out. We gave up in the end and we're running our pure Java apps through CFMX Enterprise's built-in JRun as well as our CF apps. Sounds crazy but it works OK. If you're running

RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Samuel Neff
://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together. We seem to be having trouble getting JRUN4

Re: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Nick de Voil
If you're running CFMX 6.1, I'd recommend taking a look at just running CFMX on top of your existing JRun install Is CFMX for J2EE now simply an install option for Enterprise then? Or is it a different product version? Nick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast

Re:Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brodie
=274threadid=688726highlight_key=ykeyword1=classpath Jeremy Brodie Intelix an Edgewater Technology Solutions Company web: http://www.edgewater.com phone:(703) 815-2500 nasdaq symbol: EDGE We seem to be having trouble getting JRUN4 and CFMX to work together. Are there any special tweaks

RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Samuel Neff
-- Blog:http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Problems using JRUN4

RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Stacy Young
An install option if u own enterprise license. Stace _ From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 26, 2003 12:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together. If you're running CFMX 6.1, I'd recommend taking a look at just running CFMX on top

RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Bosky, Dave
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together. There may be a way of getting a standalone JRun to play nice with the one in CFMX, but we couldn't figure it out. We gave up in the end and we're running our

Re:Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brodie
version of CFMX to use JRUN 4 and CFMX together. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together. There may be a way of getting a standalone JRun to play nice

RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Dave Watts
We own a full professional version of CMFX and a full version of JRUN 4. When running them together CFMX grabs every .jsp file and won't let JRUN 4 process them. I shouldn't have to purchase an enterprise version of CFMX to use JRUN 4 and CFMX together. Well, you probably don't have to

RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Samuel Neff
-- -Original Message- From: Jeremy Brodie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 2:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together. (snip) You'll still have the problems with the classpaths issue

RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together.

2003-11-26 Thread Stacy Young
) Restart CFMX. Not sure if it's exact same on Pro though...you will have to try... -Stace _ From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 26, 2003 3:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Problems using JRUN4 and CFMX together. We own a full professional version of CMFX and a full version

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-23 Thread Kwang Suh
> But a lot of > people don't know enough about CFML to consider it a viable alternative > to JSP and / or they believe the FUD - Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt - > spread by CF's detractors... Well, if you ever used CF3.0, which had NO proper way to handle multithreaded session requests, and had a

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-23 Thread Jim Davis
> But a lot of > people don't know enough about CFML to consider it a viable alternative > to JSP and / or they believe the FUD - Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt - > spread by CF's detractors... Well, if you ever used CF3.0, which had NO proper way to handle multithreaded session requests, and

Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-23 Thread Nick de Voil
> Well, if you ever used CF3.0, which had NO proper way ... What was the point of that post? POS, indeed. My 2 cents worth: we've been using both CF and JRun for some time now. JSP, on its own, has nothing to recommend it over CF, except that you can deploy JSP apps on free standards-based

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-23 Thread Kwang Suh
, BTW) and ColdFusion. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 23, 2003 12:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Jrun4 and CFMX > Well, if you ever used CF3.0, which had NO proper way ... What was the point of that post? POS, indeed. M

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-23 Thread Kwang Suh
> However it's riduculous to compare those versions to the modern versions: remembe what ELSE was available then? NOTHING was very good at the time (well, except for Perl, I suppose). WebPlus a poor CF clone, Java was so much in it's infancy you couldn't really build squat (except for

Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-22 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 12:48 US/Pacific, Bryan F. Hogan wrote: > Save from EJB, etc, what does JSP the language have over CFMX if it > does > have something over CFMX? If they both can do the same job, why would > one > choose JRun over CFMX? Speaking of those that do choose JRun over

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-19 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Thanks Dave -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 7:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX I see many people using JSP all the time, and I wonder what the big deal is. I say to myself if they just knew what CFML could

Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear about it. In was cases would you choose Jrun4 over CFMX. Can't they both do the same thing? Even if there is something in JRun that CFMX doesn't natively do, can't CFMX be extended to do it? What is the advantages of using JRun over CFMX

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Dave Watts
I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear about it. In was cases would you choose Jrun4 over CFMX. Can't they both do the same thing? Even if there is something in JRun that CFMX doesn't natively do, can't CFMX be extended to do it? What is the advantages of using JRun over

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages to JRun over CFMX? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Jim Davis
- but if you want to mix then you'll need JRUN (or some other J2EE server). Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Dave Watts
Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages to JRun over CFMX? If you install CFMX Enterprise or CFMX Standard by themselves, they come with a subset of JRun - enough of JRun to run CFMX, basically. If you install CFMX for J2EE on top of an existing J2EE server, like

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
, why would one choose JRun over CFMX? Speaking of those that do choose JRun over CFMX. -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX It may be flippant - but I've said if you don't know

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Right, I think I'm thinking more about JSP the language than the server. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages

Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Jim Campbell
: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages to JRun over CFMX? If you install CFMX Enterprise or CFMX Standard by themselves, they come

Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Bryan Stevenson
:34 PM Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX It may be flippant - but I've said if you don't know whether or not you need it, then you probably don't. In this case JRUN will let you code to the J2EE development standards (EJB, JSP, etc) while CFMX will let you code CFML and take advantage of Java

Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Jim Campbell
to JRun over CFMX? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear about it. In was cases would you choose Jrun4 over CFMX. Can't

Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Marc A. Garrett
Jim, You can still run JSP pages without a separate installation of JRun. -- Marc A. Garrett since1968.com Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It may be flippant - but I've said if you don't know whether or not you need it, then you probably don't. In this

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Why would you use JRun if you weren't going to write any Enterprise Java? Good question, it's what I'm trying to ask!! Why use JRun over CFMX? -Original Message- From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Jrun4

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
all of the selling points for CFML, what are they for JSP, leaving out J2EE? -Original Message- From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Jrun4 and CFMX Oh, ok. In that case, I'd go with CFMX in a heartbeat. I haven't

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Dave Watts
I see many people using JSP all the time, and I wonder what the big deal is. I say to myself if they just knew what CFML could do to their development. But these people are die-hard scripters and they stick to JSP. Other than J2EE, does JSP have anything over CFML? I know all of the

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Dave Watts
Right, I think I'm thinking more about JSP the language than the server. I can't think of any reason I'd use JSP over CFMX, if I knew both and both were available. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444

Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Doug White
are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:50 PM Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX | I see many people using JSP all the time, and I wonder what the | big

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

2003-09-18 Thread Stacy Young
... Cheers, Stace -Original Message- From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 18, 2003 8:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Jrun4 and CFMX Isn't it true that the die-hard CFML coders are just as fervent? The same goes for the C and VB coders, right. You use the tools