RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-10 Thread Paul Kenney
-Original Message- From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest I really like the idea about the web service competitions... you enter your webservice agent into a contest on some server

Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-09 Thread Eric Dawson
- From: cfhelp To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:05 PM Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest What someone needs to do is set this up and a few other puzzles and form development teams. Team 1: CF Team 2: ASP/.Net Team 3: PERL Team 4: PHP Rick -Original Message- From

Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-09 Thread Eric Dawson
what's the contest URL again? - Original Message - From: cfhelp To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:05 PM Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest What someone needs to do is set this up and a few other puzzles and form development teams. Team 1: CF Team 2: ASP/.Net Team 3

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-09 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
http://tech.badpen.com/cfcontest When you are done, submit your entry to me for the judging.You have until midnight on Sunday to submit. Kevin. _ From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 2:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest (prizes)

2004-04-08 Thread Steve Nelson
I just sent in my submission to this contest and wanted to encourage others to send submissions too. So I'm going to throw in a free copy of the Pro version of my Prototype Tool Kit ($100 value) to the winner (or second place runner since I'm planning on winning!) Here is some information

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-07 Thread cfhelp
: ColdFusion Coding Contest WOW, this contest is on fire!:-) We are up to three. Kevin _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: Script vs Tags (was Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest)

2004-04-06 Thread Howard Fore
If you can do everything you need in cfscript, it's much more readable IMHO. However the functionality gap between cfscript and cf tags negates this to some degreee. In my experience switching back and forth between tags and cfscript has yielded some very awkward code. I've almost completely

RE: Script vs Tags (was Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest)

2004-04-06 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
If you can do everything you need in cfscript, it's much more readable IMHO. However the functionality gap between cfscript and cf tags negates this to some degreee. In my experience switching back and forth between tags and cfscript has yielded some very awkward code. I've almost completely

Re: Script vs Tags (was Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest)

2004-04-06 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus - CFList
I agree completely on the readability issue.In my application.cfm file, I try to use cfscript blocks as much as possible, mainly to keep code both compact and readable.I do the same thing on pages where I need to set more than one or two variables.cfscript blocks are also easier to find when

RE: Script vs Tags (was Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest)

2004-04-06 Thread Dave Watts
Just a note on this: the bug is basically that you never see value of 1-9 - only 0, 10 or more than 10. (and I think it's actually an OS problem on Windows, not a CF issue - can any Linux/Unix user confirm the bug on their platform?) According to the MM guy who explained this problem to

RE: Script vs Tags (was Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest)

2004-04-06 Thread Andre Turrettini
Tags (was Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest) If you can do everything you need in cfscript, it's much more readable IMHO. However the functionality gap between cfscript and cf tags negates this to some degreee. In my experience switching back and forth between tags and cfscript has yielded some very

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-06 Thread Andre Turrettini
Can we switch it to monday?I dont think I'll have much time till the weekend. DRE -Original Message- From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest Contest is still open until Friday April 9th

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-06 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest Can we switch it to monday?I dont think I'll have much time till the weekend. DRE -Original Message- From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest Contest

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-06 Thread Tangorre, Michael
WOW, this contest is on fire!:-) We are up to three. Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Tangorre, Michael
There ya go Kaz, hi-jacking the contest.:-) I still think the original poster was looking for CS homework help and was unofficially soliciting answers...j/k If anyone submitted their code to the CF coding contest we had a while back ago in January would like to submit their code to me, I am

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
Hahahahaha, last time that happened, I at least got paid for it. ;) Keivn. _ From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest There ya go Kaz, hi-jacking the contest.:-) I still think

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Andre Turrettini
oops. I forgot to send in my entry last time.Where are the rules so that I can make sure it conforms? DRE -Original Message- From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest Hahahahaha, last time

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
http://tech.badpen.com/cfcontest/ Kevin. _ From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 1:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest oops. I forgot to send in my entry last time.Where are the rules so that I can make sure it conforms? DRE

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Just go to the link Kaz posted earlier and take his code :-) oops. I forgot to send in my entry last time.Where are the rules so that I can make sure it conforms? DRE [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Tom Kitta
-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest Just go to the link Kaz posted earlier and take his code :-) oops. I forgot to send in my entry last time.Where are the rules so that I can make sure it conforms? DRE [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Tangorre, Michael
In case you needed the link: http://adserver2.alfred.edu/kevin/maze/index.cfm :-) Just go to the link Kaz posted earlier and take his code :-) oops. I forgot to send in my entry last time.Where are the rules so that I can make sure it conforms? DRE [Todays Threads] [This Message]

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Venable, John
, April 05, 2004 2:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest Hmmm, it looks like there are going to be a lot of 'shortest path' algorithm implementations. I guess to win on speed it should be written in cfscript as much as possible. TK -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest Hmmm, it looks like there are going to be a lot of 'shortest path' algorithm implementations. I guess to win on speed it should be written in cfscript as much as possible. TK -Original Message- From: Tangorre

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Ben Forta
, 2004 2:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest Just go to the link Kaz posted earlier and take his code :-) oops. I forgot to send in my entry last time.Where are the rules so that I can make sure it conforms? DRE [Todays Threads] [This Message

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Tangorre, Michael
I ran some code both ways back when CFMX came out... Didn't notice much of a difference. It could be that I imagined things, but my tickcount was lower with more code in cfscript.I didn't think it would make a difference, but I went with it. Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message]

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Tom Kitta
I agree Ben, but it is a contest, so every little bit (even if imaginary :)) ) counts. TK -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest I guess to win on speed it should be written

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Steve Nelson
Was anyone successful with this? I know mine worked on a bunch of mazes, but there were a couple weird ones with huge rooms that it didn't work on. Kevin, can you send me the last version I sent to you guys? I'd like to try and fix any issues in my code. Steve Nelson _ From: Kazmierczak,

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Philip Arnold
From: Tom Kitta I agree Ben, but it is a contest, so every little bit (even if imaginary :)) ) counts. Just remember - CFSILENT until you're ready to output something - CF won't try to build the output at all, so it should be a smidge faster as well g [Todays Threads] [This Message]

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
to submit a solution to it even if you didn't submit one from before. I think the idea is really cool and I don't want to see it die by the wayside. Kevin. _ From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 3:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Steve Nelson
Oh gotcha. Then I'll have to dig it up and send it over so you have 3 solutions. :-) Steve Nelson _ From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 3:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest Steve, Here is the deal.I am not the person who

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Dave Watts
Is this still true? I was inder the impression that since CFMX compiles everything beforehand the performance gains that you used to get with CFSCRIPT are no longer there. Am I wrong about that? It's been my experience that using CFSCRIPT never provided any significant performance increase

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Tom Kitta
If you want people to re-submit + new people then how about new deadline for submissions? TK -Original Message- From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 3:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest Steve, Here is the deal.I am

Script vs Tags (was Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest)

2004-04-05 Thread Nathan Strutz
It's been my experience that using CFSCRIPT never provided any significant performance increase in any case. I disagree. My tests: the function queryRandomize() from DRK 4 (or was it 5?), I rewrote it, line-by-line (including comments!) and called it queryRandomizeCFML(). 100,000

Re: Script vs Tags (was Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest)

2004-04-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
That's very strange. While I did find some big differences in CFSCRIPT vs. CFTAGS in earlier versions of CF, I have not seen such in CFMX. I'm going to rerun my tests in the latest version to see how they run and also look at the class files. A perfect example of a change is that CFIF vs. IIF() in

RE: Script vs Tags (was Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest)

2004-04-05 Thread Dave Watts
It's been my experience that using CFSCRIPT never provided any significant performance increase in any case. I disagree. My tests: the function queryRandomize() from DRK 4 (or was it 5?), I rewrote it, line-by-line (including comments!) and called it queryRandomizeCFML().

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
submissions are due.I don't want to drag this on.I would rather start a new contest with a new idea.I just have to think of one. Kevin. _ From: Tom Kitta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 4:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest If you want people to re-submit

Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Jim McAtee
- Original Message - From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:59 AM Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest http://tech.badpen.com/cfcontest/ I don't get it.What's the relevance of taking a text-book algorithm from CS101

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Tom Kitta
Contest - Original Message - From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:59 AM Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest http://tech.badpen.com/cfcontest/ I don't get it.What's the relevance of taking a text-book algorithm from

RE: Script vs Tags (was Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest)

2004-04-05 Thread Jim Davis
Third, you're pointing out an approximate difference of three milliseconds per request, which is practically immeasurable by CF (if I recall correctly, CF can't accurately handle time increments smaller than 10 milliseconds). I would question whether that's a significant performance increase,

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Jim Davis
: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest - Original Message - From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:59 AM Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
free to share it with me. Kevin. _ From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest - Original Message - From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05

RE: Script vs Tags (was Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest)

2004-04-05 Thread Philip Arnold
From: Michael Dinowitz That's very strange. While I did find some big differences in CFSCRIPT vs. CFTAGS in earlier versions of CF, I have not seen such in CFMX. I'm going to rerun my tests in the latest version to see how they run and also look at the class files. A perfect example of

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Kaz, seing the word algorithm in a sentence from you made me think of our college somputer science labs! The only algorithm I saw that was associated with you was on the wall in the lab: Kevin's get rich quick algorithm: Ask Dave, Got 2 10's for a 5? Repeat until Rich. To this day, the best

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
I don't get it.What's the relevance of taking a text-book algorithm from CS101 and coding it in CF? Forget relevance.It's not even interesting. Actually it is one of the best ways to not only learn, but learn a variety of approaches to a single problem. A lot of the assignments we did in

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Barney Boisvert
With that being said, anyone got suggestions for the next contest? :-) Back in my Intro to CS course, we did a version of the prisoner's dilemma (http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/PRISDIL.html) that was pretty fun.We each implemented a person who could play in the game.All the solutions were thrown into

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
That's a good idea! Keep em coming. -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest With that being said, anyone got suggestions for the next contest? :-) Back in my

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Matthew Walker
often thought a text-based virtual forest where people come and plant trees might be interesting..but not really a competition. -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 6 April 2004 1:06 p.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Eric Dawson
for download by someone else. Eric _ From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 5, 2004 2:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest Steve, Here is the deal.I am not the person who originally started or handled this.It was Tim Blair's idea and he was the one who

Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Matt Liotta
: ColdFusion Coding Contest With that being said, anyone got suggestions for the next contest? :-) Back in my Intro to CS course, we did a version of the prisoner's dilemma (http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/PRISDIL.html) that was pretty fun.  We each implemented a person who could play in the game

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Eric Dawson
I don't get it. mine will run faster than yours. _ From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 5, 2004 7:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest - Original Message - From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Eric Dawson
-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest I don't get it.What's the relevance of taking a text-book algorithm from CS101 and coding it in CF? Forget relevance.It's not even interesting. Actually it is one of the best ways to not only learn, but learn a variety of approaches to a single

Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Rizal Firmansyah
Kevin, just curious... is this contest still open? And are we allowed to play this in god's mode? You know... solve it by looking at the whole maze, instead of thinking like the mouse inside (which can only go U,D,L,R). And then backtrack the solution to give the right direction (U,D,L,R)?

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
: Re: ColdFusion Coding Contest Kevin, just curious... is this contest still open? And are we allowed to play this in god's mode? You know... solve it by looking at the whole maze, instead of thinking like the mouse inside (which can only go U,D,L,R). And then backtrack the solution to give

RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest

2004-04-05 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
I like all the suggestions so far.I will put something together for a new contest after I am done messing around with this one. Kevin _ From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion Coding Contest http