Dave... don't encourage him!!! He had already moved on to something else
(doh!).
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
That fails to address OP's question. Instead
... don't encourage him!!! He had already moved on to something else
(doh!).
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
That fails to address OP's question. Instead
...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
That fails to address OP's question. Instead, it begs his question...
I hate to get into this, but ...
I don't think you're using beg the question correctly. When you beg
the question, you're
-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
That fails to address OP's question. Instead, it begs his question...
I hate to get into this, but ...
I don't think you're using beg the question
Not you john no... .sorry... I'm catching up.. it was for
he-who-must-not-be-named
-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:11 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Huh? I don't think I was a bad actor
]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:11 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Huh? I don't think I was a bad actor in this thread, was I?
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Mark A. Kruger
mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote:
Dave... don't encourage him!!! He had already moved
-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:11 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Huh? I don't think I was a bad actor in this thread, was I?
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Mark A. Kruger
mkru
Why not use cflocation /
http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=0284.htm#wp1100753
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Vineyard eric.viney...@hotmail.comwrote:
Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags
Why not use cflocation /
http://livedocs.adobe.
com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.
htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=0284.htm#wp1100753
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Eric Vineyard eric.vineyard@hotmail.
comwrote:
Hi, I'm trying to implement
it is using that template instead. Just a thought.
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From: Eric Vineyard [mailto:eric.viney...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:45 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Then use addToken=false
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Eric Vineyard [mailto:eric.viney...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 7:45 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Why not use cflocation /
http
Check to see if there is another file named CF_Location in the
customs tag directory or in the directory your template is in that is
calling the tag
At 03:34 PM 1/25/2011, you wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to implement custom tags into a website I'm working
with, but I'm not having much success with
um... then why not use:
cflocation addtoken=no /
addtoken=no doesn't add the unnecessary cftoken
Because the website that I'm working with has thousands of
cflocation's. My entire reason for using cf_location was so that I
wouldn't have the annoying, and highly unneccessary cftoken in my
Message-
From: Eric Vineyard [mailto:eric.viney...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:45 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Why not use cflocation /
http://livedocs.adobe.
com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.
htm?context
It's much easier to just simply use a custom tag that defaults to no than
to Find and Replace every single tag with addToken=no.
It's not more difficult to replace all occurrences of 'CFLOCATION' by
'CFLOCATION addToken=no'
than by 'CF_LOCATION'
And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!!
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote:
And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!!
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he?
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Don't you just love how developers like Bobby and Andrew assume everybody
should follow the expert way. Its developers like this that give Coldfusion
the bad name.
Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he?
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
It has nothing to do with being expert or not, but common sense.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:38 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
: Custom Tags, cf_location
...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott
andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote:
And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!!
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au
or not, but common sense.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:38 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Don't you just love how developers like
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott
andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote:
And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!!
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au
I actually did answer it, if you look hard enough.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:49 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Its amazing
://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:49 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one time.
It has everything
: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:49 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one
time.
It has everything with being a so called expert. You could have just
answered his question in a more professional manner
actually did answer it, if you look hard enough.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:49 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Its amazing
Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:56 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Your not just getting it. The sad part is you never will. Sure you
answered
The problem with us experts sometimes is that we do forget the daft things
that noobs do and common sense comes with experience.
However what does get my goat is an unwillingness to RTFM or google search.
There is a HUGE resource of documentation and tutorials out there, and
sometimes no matter
Despite Andrews lack of partience he is however correct.
Replacing cflocation with cflocation addtoken=false would be much
better and is of course almost as easy to do.If the URL is different in
every cflocation then a REGEX will be required, bit there are some regex
gurus on here who can help
Gotta say Andrew and Russ you two take the cake. Who cares now if your right?
All meaning has been lost. Caution to anybody that is new to ColdFusion. You
will sometimes encounter developers who give double meaning and treat you with
a lack of respect.
Arrogance. Complete Egos at work
: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:19 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Gotta say Andrew and Russ you two take the cake. Who cares now if your
right? All meaning has been lost. Caution to anybody that is new to
ColdFusion. You will sometimes encounter developers who give double
I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google first
and ask questions later.
Having said that, cf-talk is (generally) comprised of people with such a
high D-18 roll of:
- intelligence
- wisdom
- charisma
...that it's easy to understand why people of all experience
stated he is no noob as
well, or did you not read that?
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:19 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
John,
You hit it right on the button. I would dare say your the true expert here.
Mike
On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:23 PM, John M Bliss wrote:
I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google first
and ask questions later.
Having said that, cf-talk is (generally)
://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:19 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Gotta say Andrew and Russ you two take the cake. Who cares now if your
right? All
My thoughts exactly. Figured maybe I was missing something. lol
Yet he planned to replace all cflocation with cf_location, didn't he?
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology
://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011
[mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 11:27 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Btw if you read the guys comment, he also clearly stated he is no noob
aswell, or did you not read that?
He wrote, I don't really consider myself to be a novice with CF
Good God! Having flashbacks from high school with this thread! LOL
Your not just getting it and I don't think you every will. You come
off as sounding like a jerk plain and simple, so who cares if your
right.
~|
Order
+1 for the rpg reference... nerd.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:23 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote:
I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google
first
and ask questions later.
Having said that, cf-talk is (generally) comprised of people with such a
high
STOP THE INSANITY - the horse is dead quit whipping it.. PLEASE!!
Wil Genovese
One man with courage makes a majority.
-Andrew Jackson
A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
+1 for the rpg reference... nerd.
nerd.
Guilty. :-)
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:
+1 for the rpg reference... nerd.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:23 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com
wrote:
I follow. I'm an expert (14 or so years) and I like to think I Google
first
and
: Custom Tags, cf_location
...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott
andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote:
And people wonder why ColdFusion gets a bad name!!
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au
/
-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
...because noobs aren't yet find-and-replace ninjas? Doubt it.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Scott
andr
cflocation with cf_location, didn't he?
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:41 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
...because noobs
Please. So what? Somebody who was actually helping wouldnt feel the need
for such self promotion. Face it your only doimg it to gloss the resume
On Jan 25, 2011 8:04 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
Michael, perhaps you need to look a bit harder before making such
statements, I
Well done on your self promotion as a Jerk Michael, you are doing an
absolutely sterling job and you definitely deserve everything you get in
recognition of your gr8 talent.
three cheers for Michael.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote:
Please. So
Wow. Sounds like the expert is taking it personally. Good to know you like
to resort to personal attacks like this. Real class
On Jan 25, 2011 8:24 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
Well done on your self promotion as a Jerk Michael, you are doing an
absolutely sterling job and
Seriously Michael I don't know you, but I think you've blown this whole thing
out of proportion. Why not take the high road and just give it a rest?
I suffer from Last word syndrome at times, maybe that's what we're dealing with
here. We shall see. :)
Wow. Sounds like the expert is taking
Kelly, I am not the one resorting to personal attacks and this is a real big
problem with expert programmers attacking new people to the profession but
yet claim to help them. Russ claims to help but attacks his peers by
calling them a jerk. Real professional.
On Jan 25, 2011 8:35 PM, Kelly
/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 12:40 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Kelly, I am not the one resorting to personal attacks and this is a real
big
problem with expert programmers attacking new people
Erm, read your own posts.
You are the one attacking and insulting everyone, you called everyone a
jerk, and then got all upset when it was said right back you.
You make baseless claims about people contributing nothing, then throw out
even more insults when you are proved wrong.
The only one
[mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 12:40 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Kelly, I am not the one resorting to personal attacks and this is a real
big
problem with expert programmers attacking new people to the profession
but yet claim to help them
Just cant let it go can you. Real professional.
On Jan 25, 2011 8:47 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
Erm, read your own posts.
You are the one attacking and insulting everyone, you called everyone a
jerk, and then got all upset when it was said right back you.
You make
ok that's enough now, you are now added to my spam filter, so feel free to
get the last word in as I wont see it.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote:
Just cant let it go can you. Real professional.
On Jan 25, 2011 8:47 PM, Russ Michaels
Wow how mature and professional. Spam filter. Guess I was right lmao
On Jan 25, 2011 8:51 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
ok that's enough now, you are now added to my spam filter, so feel free to
get the last word in as I wont see it.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Michael
: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:49 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Its amazing how fast the experts forget they were beginners at one
time. It has everything with being a so called expert. You could
have just answered his question
That fails to address OP's question. Instead, it begs his question...
I hate to get into this, but ...
I don't think you're using beg the question correctly. When you beg
the question, you're assuming the answer. Whatever Andrew's doing, I
don't think it's that.
not be the opinion
of my friends, others on the list, my employer, or the general public)
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:49 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Custom Tags, cf_location
Its amazing how fast the experts
Wikipedia is not exactly a great source for verifying something lol. Just
saying.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Dave Watts wrote:
That fails to address OP's question. Instead, it begs his question...
I hate to get into this, but ...
I don't think you're using beg the question
Granted.
I guess I should have said something like, You didn't answer his question.
Instead, you re-worded a bit of his question in a most un-helpful form.
Like, You ask, is the sky blue. I answer, sky...blue...many wonder.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com
Wikipedia is not exactly a great source for verifying something lol. Just
saying.
It's satisfactory for undisputed facts, and it's easier to remember
off the cuff than other sites that list logical fallacies, which is
what begging the question is. I use it quite often to provide simple
Interesting. In my spare time I am going back to college and almost to a tee
all of my professors warn about wikipedia and how much misinformation is on
there. What is really something is that at my previous school the professors
were the same way about wikipedia. Guess you have to take it
Wow.
This thread is FANTASTIC. Michael, you can't be so sensitive. In
programming, there are a LOT of egos we all have to deal with. None of the
comments were that condescending, and if they really have 18's for stats,
well it might be a good idea to just listen to what they have to say. I
Interesting. In my spare time I am going back to college and almost to a tee
all of my professors warn about wikipedia and how
much misinformation is on there. What is really something is that at my
previous school the professors were the same way about
wikipedia. Guess you have to take
Ok I see your point. I cannot say I agree, but I do see your viewpoint. Yes,
the professors pointed that out as well, but also said that even on off the
cuff things it can be a very dangerous tool because you don't know who is doing
the writing. In other words are they true and supported
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok I see your point. I cannot say I agree, but I do see your viewpoint.
Yes, the professors pointed that out as well, but also said that even on off
the cuff things it can be a very dangerous tool because you don't
LMAO. Now my sides are hurting.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok I see your point. I cannot say I agree, but I do see your viewpoint.
Yes, the professors pointed that out as well, but also
Subject: RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
Michael, I don't know if you suffer from Aspeger's or Higher Functioning
Autism as it is known over there.
But I think you really need to adhere to what people are saying, back off
calm down and have a good think about it later.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http
Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:42 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Custom Tags, cf_location
Michael, I don't know if you suffer from Aspeger's or Higher Functioning
Autism
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
It's too bad that you, Russ, Andrew have formulated opinions without really
knowing me.
A friend just pointed me to Michael's posts on cf-jobs so I could get
to know him better...
(I've tried really hard not to
: Custom Tags, cf_location
Bobby,
I know you are filtering, but if you see this post you may want to look at
some of the other ones. It's too bad that you, Russ, Andrew have
formulated opinions without really knowing me. Sorry, but thats a real
dangerous line of thought if you ask me. Also
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