Re: IDE's

2006-11-05 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>If only we could think of a really big software company that would benefit from a widely available and loved open source editor for ColdFusion. and if only they could put the Homesite source code in the pot, we would just have a few things to add or to brush up, and it would be perfect ;-

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2006-11-05 Thread Andrew Scott
Dang Nathan. Let me go and hide again. On 11/5/06, Nathan Strutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dang Andrew, you're on a roll this week. > > You blindly haven't been paying attention to Eclipse news for the past 3 > years then ;). > > Let me help fill you in. The Eclipse foundation was spun off

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2006-11-05 Thread Nathan Strutz
Dang Andrew, you're on a roll this week. You blindly haven't been paying attention to Eclipse news for the past 3 years then ;). Let me help fill you in. The Eclipse foundation was spun off of IBM, and is supported by IBM and a large number of other organizations in the forms of paid developers,

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2006-11-05 Thread Andrew Scott
hmm, you blindy haven't heard of eclipse then;-) No money needed On 11/5/06, Nathan Strutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Better yet, get someone else to pay. That's how a lot of the open-source > projects work (like Eclipse). A larger company hires some number of > developers to work on an open

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2006-11-05 Thread Nathan Strutz
Better yet, get someone else to pay. That's how a lot of the open-source projects work (like Eclipse). A larger company hires some number of developers to work on an open source project that benefits them in some way. Hmmm. If only we could think of a really big software company that would benefit

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2006-11-03 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 03 November 2006 11:46, Mark Drew wrote: > If only! :D Hay, it's *a* plan :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to enthusiastically entrench ubiquitous convergence This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a

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2006-11-03 Thread Mark Drew
"Pay people to work on CFEclipse instead..." If only! :D MD On 3 Nov 2006, at 09:43, Tom Chiverton wrote: > On Friday 03 November 2006 09:17, Andrew Scott wrote: >> With so many plugins for doing our work, I will never look at DW >> again. > > This is what happens when you let anyone* work o

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2006-11-03 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 03 November 2006 09:17, Andrew Scott wrote: > With so many plugins for doing our work, I will never look at DW again. This is what happens when you let anyone* work on your project, rather than just the comparatively smaller team of people in your company. You get a better product with

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2006-11-03 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 03 November 2006 07:49, Mark Drew wrote: > Yep, its coming, no, I havent fully started yet... but I shall get > there. Cool, cool. CFEclipse already saves tons of time just with the coloring, and it'd be great to go the next step and have it really *assist* us. -- Tom Chiverton Helpin

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2006-11-03 Thread Andrew Scott
Ryan, CFEclipse is what I use and it took me a lot of perduading to move over to it. But now I am here I am not looking back. Here is what I can do with within CFEclipse without leaving it. 1) Code using CF, or any other language I need to (same as DW). 2) Use a SVN plugin, that will allow me to

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2006-11-02 Thread Mark Drew
tom, indeed it is I actually just need a small reg ex to get started on this, but I want to finally release 1.3 and then I can start concentrating on this feature. It might not do EVERYTHING you want just yet, it wont be super clever, but if it can find the CFC it will give you introspecti

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2006-10-12 Thread Mingo Hagen
Ryan Stewart wrote: > Quick question, > What IDE/editor do you use for coldfusion development? I'm Mingo and I'm a HomeSite+aholic. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date Col

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2006-10-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
Thanks, the first link seems to have been the solution. On 10/11/06, Massimo Foti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thanks, I will give them a try tonight. > > Let us know if it work > > Massimo > > -- Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/

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2006-10-11 Thread Andrew Scott
Seems like people use the IDE of there choice based on what they need to do. I was a die hard CF Studio, it had great features that since its demise never existed in HomeSite+, and DW was my next editor of choice but I hated it, and after looking at cfeclipse I fell in love with it. Why have I no

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2006-10-11 Thread Andrew Scott
CF Studio without CF integration, hmm what do you mean by that Dave:-) Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly U

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2006-10-11 Thread Snake
Oh ok, I must be comparing it to the HS+ docs then -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2006 18:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IDE's I just went to the livedocs and pulled up a couple of random CF tags then looked at the reference in DW8.

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2006-10-11 Thread Massimo Foti
> Thanks, I will give them a try tonight. Let us know if it work Massimo ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door fou

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2006-10-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
Thanks, I will give them a try tonight. On 10/11/06, Massimo Foti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Before doing a complete reinstall, try the two steps below: > > http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19105#dat > > http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_1

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2006-10-11 Thread Massimo Foti
> Up until very recently I used to keep Homesite+ and DW8 on all my > machines. > I have started to remove Homesite+ due to never using it. My only beef > with > DW8 is just random errors that sometimes the quickest solution is simply > reinstalling it even though I am sure there are better solu

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2006-10-11 Thread loathe
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:46 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: IDE's > > I actually prefer to have the ending tag created when I close the openeing > tag. > So I guess everyone has different preferences. > Also he help in DW sucks compared to HS+, it doesn't h

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2006-10-11 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the history lesson, Dave! :o) Boy, it seems like so long ago when I was dealing with Allaire... -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IDE's > I've been using HomeSite

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2006-10-11 Thread Josh Nathanson
nd easier to get the information you're looking for. http://www.cfquickdocs.com -- Josh - Original Message - From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: RE: IDE's > No, whats online is better. >

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2006-10-11 Thread Rick Faircloth
I ride my bicycle as much as possible. :o) Best gas mileage around! -Original Message- From: Crow T Robot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IDE's Rick, what kind of car do you drive? OT, but I'm just

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2006-10-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
wrote: > > No, whats online is better. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 October 2006 17:07 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: IDE's > > I think the help sucks as well but isn't it pretty much what

Re: IDE's

2006-10-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
I think my problem is solely related to just a file getting corrupted on my hard drive and needing to figure out which one it is so I can copy it from another machine. Taking the time to figure that out is why I probably will just reinstall. I have never installed a third party plugin for DW befo

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2006-10-11 Thread Snake
No, whats online is better. -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2006 17:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IDE's I think the help sucks as well but isn't it pretty much what is offered online by Adobe just less the comments? On 10/11

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2006-10-11 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
I had a similar problem, way back when I used DW, that related to a third party plugin I had installed (which I think actually came from a DevNet CD). Once I removed the plugin and restarted the program it went back to functioning as poorly (Cough!Cough!) I mean just like it had before;) Cutte

Re: IDE's

2006-10-11 Thread Josh Nathanson
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 6:49 AM Subject: RE: IDE's >> I usually have to run the find/replace several times in DW >> until it picks everything up. > > I've never had that problem, and I use it all the time. >

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2006-10-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
I think the help sucks as well but isn't it pretty much what is offered online by Adobe just less the comments? On 10/11/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I actually prefer to have the ending tag created when I close the openeing > tag. > So I guess everyone has different preferences. > Als

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2006-10-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
It is installed, now I have had no issues with it on this machine I am on now. Probably will have some now that I typed that though. On 10/11/06, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My only beef with DW8 is just random errors that sometimes > > the quickest solution is simply reinstalling

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2006-10-11 Thread Snake
ssion, and pull up the help from there. Russ -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2006 15:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IDE's I love HS+, too, but the primary reason I stick with DW is the "smart-tag-close" feature. When you

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2006-10-11 Thread Snake
It is certainly faster. If you have a big file doing a lot of replaces, homesite is slow as hell. -Original Message- From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2006 16:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IDE's On 10/11/06, Gaulin, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

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2006-10-11 Thread James Holmes
As does DW. On 10/11/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 11 October 2006 15:20, Ben Nadel wrote: > > Snippets, code templates, customized key > > commands, > > CFEclipse has those. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~~~

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2006-10-11 Thread Dave Watts
> My only beef with DW8 is just random errors that sometimes > the quickest solution is simply reinstalling it even though > I am sure there are better solutions, just the problems happen > when I lack the time to research them. I had a lot of problems prior to the 8.0.2 patch. You might want t

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2006-10-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 11 October 2006 16:12, Mark Drew wrote: > have in my head CFEclipse will be indispensable if you are doing any > CFC related work. Is that the sound of CFC insight coming down the road :-) ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to enthusiastically cultivate six-generation applications

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2006-10-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
Both Homesite and DW allow you to use regex in your extended find/replaces. The syntax is a little different between the two but that is about it. On 10/11/06, Rob Wilkerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Even better, I can use regex when performing "extended" replacements. > It's been awhile,

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2006-10-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
I have had this problem but only when working with sites that have literally thousands upon thousands of files for it to search through. Homesite+ though is not any better in that same case and I just use a separate tool to do the job. I use the Find/Replace all the time in DW8 and with the excep

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2006-10-11 Thread Russ
ctober 11, 2006 10:30 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: IDE's > > >>I have been using HomeSite+ > for ever and it is the best ColdFusion editor that I have ever worked > with. > > Same thing here! > > -- > ___ &

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2006-10-11 Thread Mark Drew
I use dreamweaver. err.. hold on!!! I use CFEclipse and I guess it depends what kind of development you are doing but over the next few months, with some of the features I have in my head CFEclipse will be indispensable if you are doing any CFC related work. MD On 11 Oct 2006, at 15:47, B

Re: IDE's

2006-10-11 Thread Rob Wilkerson
On 10/11/06, Gaulin, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use several IDEs (include CFE), and you're right about the HomeSite/CF > Studio extended search & replace being excellent... I'm going to keep > that program around until someone writes one for Eclipse. I hope this doesn't start some crazy t

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2006-10-11 Thread Ben Nadel
urely personal preference. .. Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IDE's I love HS+, too, but t

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2006-10-11 Thread Dave Watts
> I've been using HomeSite 5.5 for years for tweaking > code...(I'm a visual designer / developer, so I work through > a visual interface primarily), but I've heard others refer to > HomeSite "Plus" so often, I wonder if that's a completely > different (or later) version of HomeSite 5.5... Ori

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2006-10-11 Thread Ben Nadel
same snippet features. .. Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IDE's On Wednesday 11 October 2006

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2006-10-11 Thread David Low
HS 5.5 is an upgrade from + (was HS+ not a freebie with Dreamweaver MX?) > -Original Message- > From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 October 2006 15:35 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: IDE's > > I am not sure... I think 5.5 might be an upgrade from

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2006-10-11 Thread Dawson, Michael
I love HS+, too, but the primary reason I stick with DW is the "smart-tag-close" feature. When you type "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IDE's I will probably get slammed for this, but I have been using HomeSite+ fo

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2006-10-11 Thread Dawson, Michael
I don't consider DW to be entry-level. What's entry-level about using the code view of DW? I've tried CFE, but I just can't get into the flow of it. There are a few minor things that bug me about DW, but not enough to switch editors at this point. M!ke -Original Message- From: Ryan St

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2006-10-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 11 October 2006 15:20, Ben Nadel wrote: > Snippets, code templates, customized key > commands, CFEclipse has those. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to autoschediastically engineer dynamic infrastructures This email is sent for and on

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2006-10-11 Thread Ben Nadel
10:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IDE's I've been using HomeSite 5.5 for years for tweaking code...(I'm a visual designer / developer, so I work through a visual interface primarily), but I've heard others refer to HomeSite "Plus" so often, I wonder if that'

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2006-10-11 Thread Crow T Robot
Rick, what kind of car do you drive? OT, but I'm just wondering. > -Original Message- > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:25 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: IDE's > > I've been using HomeSite 5.5

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2006-10-11 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>I have been using HomeSite+ for ever and it is the best ColdFusion editor that I have ever worked with. Same thing here! -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address:

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2006-10-11 Thread Rick Faircloth
rsion of HomeSite 5.5... Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IDE's > I will probably get slammed for this, but I have been using > HomeSite+ for ever and it is the best ColdFusion editor t

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2006-10-11 Thread Ben Nadel
-Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IDE's On Wednesday 11 October 2006 12:48, Ryan Stewart wrote: > Q. What IDE/editor do you use for coldfusion development? (and if you > fe

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2006-10-11 Thread Ben Nadel
, October 11, 2006 10:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IDE's With Eclipse 3.2, you can declare projects in embeded trees if you wanted. You also have two views to handle where files are: navigator for just files and file explorer for the file directory system. Teddy On 10/11/06, Ben Nadel &l

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2006-10-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 11 October 2006 12:48, Ryan Stewart wrote: > Q. What IDE/editor do you use for coldfusion development? (and if you feel Eclipse with CFEclipse. Talks to our SVN RCS server and runs on Linux, which is more than most other IDEs I've used :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to revolutionaril

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2006-10-11 Thread Teddy Payne
ied Advanced ColdFusion Developer > www.bennadel.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:49 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: IDE's > > > I usually have to run the find/replace severa

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2006-10-11 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
CFEclipse, hands down. I use a variety of additional Eclipse plugins as well, to include the Web Tools Project, the Aptana Plugin, and doing some testing of UML work with the Green project. Not to mention using the Flex Builder RDS features, as well as the Subclipse plugin for interaction with

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2006-10-11 Thread Ben Nadel
Advanced ColdFusion Developer www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IDE's > I usually have to run the find/replace several times in DW until it > picks everything up. I&#

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2006-10-11 Thread Dave Watts
> I usually have to run the find/replace several times in DW > until it picks everything up. I've never had that problem, and I use it all the time. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our tra

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2006-10-11 Thread Snake
I have to disagree there. I usually have to run the find/replace several times in DW until it picks everything up. Russ -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2006 14:40 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IDE's > I will probably get slammed for t

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2006-10-11 Thread Ben Nadel
Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: IDE's Yep, I have to agree with Ben. CFE is very nice but I'm still partial to CF Studio/Homesite. It just works and works well. :) Rey... Ben Nadel wrote: > I will probably get slammed for this, but I have been using HomeS

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2006-10-11 Thread Dave Watts
> I will probably get slammed for this, but I have been using > HomeSite+ for ever and it is the best ColdFusion editor that > I have ever worked with... Ever! I have tried Dreamweaver, > Eclipse, and a bunch of other stuff out there, but they just > can't hold a light to HomeSite+ for its spee

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2006-10-11 Thread Rey Bango
Yep, I have to agree with Ben. CFE is very nice but I'm still partial to CF Studio/Homesite. It just works and works well. :) Rey... Ben Nadel wrote: > I will probably get slammed for this, but I have been using HomeSite+ > for ever and it is the best ColdFusion editor that I have ever worked >

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2006-10-11 Thread Casey Dougall
Dreamweaver still kicks ass. Only issue I'd like to resolve is setting up coldfusion test sites with bluedragon but of course there is no rds in bluedragon... Can't wait for DW9 - anyone have a clue as to when it may come out? ~|

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2006-10-11 Thread Gaulin, Mark
l Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IDE's I will probably get slammed for this, but I have been using HomeSite+ for ever and it is the best ColdFusion editor that I have ever worked with... Ever! I have tr

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2006-10-11 Thread Teddy Payne
I would agree with Ben. Homesite+ would be my next choice. With the advent of FusionDebug for Eclipse, Homesite+ is becoming harder to have installed. Teddy On 10/11/06, Ben Nadel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will probably get slammed for this, but I have been using HomeSite+ > for ever and

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2006-10-11 Thread Ben Nadel
I will probably get slammed for this, but I have been using HomeSite+ for ever and it is the best ColdFusion editor that I have ever worked with... Ever! I have tried Dreamweaver, Eclipse, and a bunch of other stuff out there, but they just can't hold a light to HomeSite+ for its speed, ease of use

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2006-10-11 Thread Teddy Payne
Eclipse with CFEclipse provides a way to truly customize your IDE experience. Dreamweaver offered extensions that were useful and feature rich, but there was an underlying lacking that people had wanted. The sentiment that I get from everyone that I have asked about why they enjoy Eclipse came fr

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2006-10-11 Thread Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk
I use eclipse - it's easy, modifiable and FREE! I made a post a little while back about the tools i use and got some good comments about eclipse if you're interested: http://www.succor.co.uk/index.cfm/2006/6/7/A-CF-developers-toolset#comments On 11/10/06, Ryan Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >