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Sent: 08 February 2011 02:14
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Charge for meetings
Unfuddle.com seems to be the most accessible for clients in terms of
friendly terminology etc.
And I use git with it.
Hey wow. Me too :)
I'm glad this topic came up as I'm in the market for a new centralized
: Mark Drew [mailto:mark.d...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:27 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Charge for meetings
+1
Remember, if you are a consultant, you are charging for your knowledge and
experience. If you do coding that is part of it, so are meetings.
A solicitor (or Lawyer
I've done botha, and I vote iterative as well. Velocity seems to stay
higher, and you can still make the bean counters happy by regularly discussing
overall budget, timeline, and number/complexity of changes. It may not work
for all clients, but I'd definitely encourage defining and trying
...@cfwebtools.com
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:12 AM
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: Charge for meetings
We also set a policy to charge in 15 minute increments. Any phone call is
going to incur at least 15 minute charge. That way we have substantive
discussions
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Marc Funaro subscripti...@advantex.net wrote:
Sean, it would be interesting to learn what source code repository +
ticketing system you use.
Unfuddle.com seems to be the most accessible for clients in terms of
friendly terminology etc.
And I use git with it.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Marc Funaro subscripti...@advantex.net
wrote:
Sean, it would be interesting to learn what source code repository +
ticketing system you use.
Unfuddle.com seems to be the most
Unfuddle.com seems to be the most accessible for clients in terms of
friendly terminology etc.
And I use git with it.
Hey wow. Me too :)
I'm glad this topic came up as I'm in the market for a new centralized
repository for git as well as an issue tracking system, so this looks
to be just
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Paul Alkema paulalkemadesi...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a question; when you guys do consulting or freelance programming, do
you charge for meetings? Or do you absorb meeting time into your fees?
You should definitely charge for your time. How you charge for it
the scope must be very narrowly defined or it an run away from you.
This could easily be a topic unto itself. It's very important before you
begin a project to have a scope document. I call it a PDG (project
development guideline) but you can call it whatever. The most important role
of the
So shall we assume then Michael that you were just having a laugh with your
goodbye cruel world post in the 300 dpi thread?
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Michael Firth mftr...@att.net wrote:
Hi All,
I have a question; when you guys do consulting or freelance programming,
do
you charge
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:
This could easily be a topic unto itself. It's very important before you
begin a project to have a scope document. I call it a PDG (project
development guideline) but you can call it whatever. The most important role
of the
I treat meeting as work. If you are a permanent employee, you get paid for
the time you are in meeting...
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From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 10:43
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Charge for meetings
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011
That sounds suspiciously like Big Design Up Front which is a practice
I abandoned a long time ago...
I think you've jumped to some conclusions. I never said anything about fixed
costs. I said defining the scope of the project and making the client pay
for deviations from it. I didn't say
The iterative approach embraces change rather than 'punishing' the client
for wanting change.
I wanted to reply to this separately because I feel that my other reply was
about a disagreement on approach, whereas this single statement to me is
just lipstick on the pig. It's the same bloody
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:
That sounds suspiciously like Big Design Up Front which is a practice
I think you've jumped to some conclusions. I never said anything about fixed
costs.
BDUF != fixed cost. Sorry if you incorrectly inferred that I was
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:
You can't budget on pay us $X an hour and we'll see where it goes.
That's how a lot of agile practitioners do work tho'... very
successfully (for both them and their clients).
But I agree it doesn't work for all clients.
--
I charge per hour. If you want to have a meeting for that time, I
charge for it. Talk away. :)
Now, the initial meeting, I tend not to charge for. But those I like
to keep short and focused.
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Paul Alkema paulalkemadesi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I have a
Absolutely. Otherwise, the client will use a ton of your time picking
your brain and discussing changes. Just make sure they know in
advance that you will be charging.
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Paul Alkema paulalkemadesi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I have a question; when you guys do
I follow the same basic rule. No charge on the initial consult, but hourly
after that. It helps force the client to prepare and think through why they
really want.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 5, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote:
I charge per hour. If you
Completely agree. Once into a project, all the project time is client
time; bill accordingly.
On 2/5/2011 5:37 PM, Brian Cain wrote:
I follow the same basic rule. No charge on the initial consult, but hourly
after that. It helps force the client to prepare and think through why they
I agree with Brian Cane.
Jason Durham
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Brian Cain bcc9...@gmail.com wrote:
I follow the same basic rule. No charge on the initial consult, but hourly
after that. It helps force the client to prepare and think through why they
really want.
Sent from my
Hi All,
I have a question; when you guys do consulting or freelance programming, do
you charge for meetings? Or do you absorb meeting time into your fees?
Thanks,
Paul
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+1
Remember, if you are a consultant, you are charging for your knowledge and
experience. If you do coding that is part of it, so are meetings.
A solicitor (or Lawyer) charges all his time. You are also a professional in
your field.
MD
Apologies for the brevity. Sent from my iPhone
On 5
I charge for meeting and drive time, past the initial sell. I then charge
extra for in person meetings, so clients don't have me driving all over for
something that can handkerchief over email or phone.
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