RE: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-19 Thread Stephen Moretti
While I agree with David that NT can be, when configured properly, a highly secure server. I must disagree with his assessment that current Mac servers have their own "gross security holes." I think the wisest thing I've ever heard about server security is this : "The only secure server

RE: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-19 Thread Bill Plummer
: Thursday, May 18, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? The Mac is dead as a server platform? While obviously not as popular as NT/2000, Mac servers suffer none of the gross security holes that NT/2000 has. Remember that the US Army h

Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-18 Thread Kevin Merker
The Mac OS X server ($499.00) is built around the Mach Kernel. Comes with (Apache Server-Mac OS GUI interface) BSD UNIX, JAVA and WebObjects. I don't know if it is the same version of WebObjects. I would assume, yes because this means you have a Apple computer. Steve Jobs is not messing around.

Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
V.S. Troel aka... "Obvious Trawl" consultant.com Free email.com addy Steve - Original Message - From: "Abe V. S. Troel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:00 AM Subject: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusio

Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-18 Thread Kevin Merker
ubject: Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? The Mac is dead as a server platform? While obviously not as popular as NT/2000, Mac servers suffer none of the gross security holes that NT/2000 has. Remember that the US Army has decided to move towards the Mac we

Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-18 Thread Kevin Merker
rry C. Lyons" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: cf-talk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? The Mac is dead as a server platform? While obviously not as popular as NT/2000, Mac serv

RE: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-18 Thread Gary McNeel, Jr.
avidson -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 10:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? The Mac is dead as a server platform? While obviously not

RE: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-18 Thread Owens, Howard
ast person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? The Mac is dead as a server platform? While obviously not as popular as NT/2000, Mac servers suffer none of the gross security holes that NT/2000 has. Remember that the US Army has decided to move towards the Mac web server system f

Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-18 Thread Howie Hamlin
Subject: Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? Isn't NT still at the heart a DOS core? KM Richard Fantini wrote: I'm certainly not a M$ fan, but that's not even close to a fair statement. All software has security holes, it just so happens Mac servers

RE: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-18 Thread Duane Boudreau
: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? Isn't NT still at the heart a DOS core? KM Richard Fantini wrote: I'm certainly not a M$ fan, but that's not even close to a fair statement. All software has security holes, it just so happens Mac servers are relatively

Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-17 Thread Abe V. S. Troel
Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty much wraps it for Cold Fusion. Not too many people are going to want to bother with it given that now they can get something much better for about the same amount of money. Oh well, nothing lasts forever. Time to move on. ###

Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-17 Thread David E. Crawford
Gee, more marketing hype. I for one am not going to close up shop because some marketeer at Apple puts out a press release. Market forces rely on substantially more substance than the vaporware proposed by most vendors. In its current state, CF is robust and stable. Jumping ship just because of

Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-17 Thread Chris Tazewell
Hmm, Java lovely! *spit* Taz - Original Message - From: "Abe V. S. Troel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 5:00 PM Subject: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? Well, it was a good run, but I guess t

RE: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-17 Thread Ian Lurie
person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? Gee, more marketing hype. I for one am not going to close up shop because some marketeer at Apple puts out a press release. Market forces rely on substantially more substance than the vaporware proposed by most vendors. In its current state, CF

RE: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-17 Thread Braver, Ben:
Yet again -- right on, Jennifer!!! -Original Message- From: Jennifer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? At 12:00 PM 5/17/00 -0400, you wrote

RE: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-17 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
ROTECTED]] Sent: 17 May 2000 16:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty much wraps it for Cold Fusion. Not too many people are going to want to bother with it given that now th

RE: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-17 Thread jstiefel
] Subject: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty much wraps it for Cold Fusion. Not too many people are going to want to bother with it given that now they can get something much better for about the same amount of money

Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-17 Thread Seth Petry-Johnson
Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty much wraps it for Cold Fusion. snip I'm not doubting the quality of the product, but I question your motives for sending this message. snip I don't appreciate being spammed. Like Jennifer, I also got a weird feeling from the original post.

Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-17 Thread Brandon Whitaker
cf_timeMachine year="1982" irony="droll" Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty much wraps it for the PC. Not too many people are going to want to bother with it given that now they can get an Apple Lisa for about the same amount of money. /cf_timeMachine Brandon Whitaker [EMAIL

Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-17 Thread Steve Aylor
2000 9:00 AM Subject: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty much wraps it for Cold Fusion. Not too many people are going to want to bother with it given that now they can get something much better for about the same amoun

RE: RE: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights?

2000-05-17 Thread joeug
: Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Will the last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out the lights? At 12:00 PM 5/17/00 -0400, you wrote: Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty much wraps it for Cold Fus