Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
But my approach to frameworks has been to 'wait and see'. Because I don't like wasting my time. I need to do something on a daily basis other wise it wont stick. I delayed learning any Framework and then just learned fusebox at a job/contract. I was going to ask, which frameworks are the most popular in terms of actual employment statistics but even then, it might all be a waste of time if my next contract doesn't use ( framework x,y, or z ). So I think I'll continue conserving my energy and just focus on CF. Maybe checkout FW/1 for my own projects from what a few here have said about it. didn't find the documention all that great though. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351070 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
I am still seeing a lot of legacy apps using fusebox, in perm jobs and contracts, so no harm in knowing it. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: But my approach to frameworks has been to 'wait and see'. Because I don't like wasting my time. I need to do something on a daily basis other wise it wont stick. I delayed learning any Framework and then just learned fusebox at a job/contract. I was going to ask, which frameworks are the most popular in terms of actual employment statistics but even then, it might all be a waste of time if my next contract doesn't use ( framework x,y, or z ). So I think I'll continue conserving my energy and just focus on CF. Maybe checkout FW/1 for my own projects from what a few here have said about it. didn't find the documention all that great though. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351071 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
Frameworks exist because they help solve problems - typically problems that are common and many people have experienced in the past. These problems are not going to go away. Yes, a particular framework X may go away, but learning it will not be a waste of time as you will gain the experience of how it can help you solve those problems. Personally I think you are making a mistake if you just ignore them. To be clear, I'm not saying every project needs a framework. Heck no. You want to ensure you actually have problems before you go trying to solve them. ;) But focusing on 'which framework is more popular' and 'which framework may go away' seems a bit silly. As it stands - the big boys in our world have been around for years: Model-Glue, Mach II, ColdBox. Even FW/1 is a bit old now. I don't think you have to worry about them going away anytime soon. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: But my approach to frameworks has been to 'wait and see'. Because I don't like wasting my time. I need to do something on a daily basis other wise it wont stick. I delayed learning any Framework and then just learned fusebox at a job/contract. I was going to ask, which frameworks are the most popular in terms of actual employment statistics but even then, it might all be a waste of time if my next contract doesn't use ( framework x,y, or z ). So I think I'll continue conserving my energy and just focus on CF. Maybe checkout FW/1 for my own projects from what a few here have said about it. didn't find the documention all that great though. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351072 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
Right...but...learning a new framework or two, depending on which you choose and how you use 'em, will make you a better MVC'er, OO'er, ORM'er, Frameworker, etc... ...if you take my meaning. And most/all of those things are likely to help you land your next job, regardless of which framework(s) they do or do not use. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: But my approach to frameworks has been to 'wait and see'. Because I don't like wasting my time. I need to do something on a daily basis other wise it wont stick. I delayed learning any Framework and then just learned fusebox at a job/contract. I was going to ask, which frameworks are the most popular in terms of actual employment statistics but even then, it might all be a waste of time if my next contract doesn't use ( framework x,y, or z ). So I think I'll continue conserving my energy and just focus on CF. Maybe checkout FW/1 for my own projects from what a few here have said about it. didn't find the documention all that great though. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351073 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
But focusing on 'which framework is more popular' and 'which framework may go away' seems a bit silly. I don't think so. The reason being is that I don't like wasting my time because if I don't use a thing everyday it doesn't get imprinted. For example - I've gotten semi proficient in java several times only to have the knowledge dissapear on account of lack of use. Popularity would also be a good indicator of job prospect, which is a good indicator of how much money I can potentially make. Remember this ( for me ) about expending the least amount of energy for maximum results. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351074 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
My comment still applies. Even if you learn and forget all of those frameworks in succession, because most of them feature MVC/OO/ORM/etc, that stuff should stick. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: But focusing on 'which framework is more popular' and 'which framework may go away' seems a bit silly. I don't think so. The reason being is that I don't like wasting my time because if I don't use a thing everyday it doesn't get imprinted. For example - I've gotten semi proficient in java several times only to have the knowledge dissapear on account of lack of use. Popularity would also be a good indicator of job prospect, which is a good indicator of how much money I can potentially make. Remember this ( for me ) about expending the least amount of energy for maximum results. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351075 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
My comment still applies. Even if you learn and forget all of those frameworks in succession, because most of them feature MVC/OO/ORM/etc, that stuff should stick. Yes everyone's comment applies,I was not intending to diminish anyone's perspective. :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351076 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
Right...but...learning a new framework or two, depending on which you choose and how you use 'em, will make you a better MVC'er, OO'er, ORM'er, Frameworker, etc... ...if you take my meaning. And most/all of those things are likely to help you land your next job, regardless of which framework(s) they do or do not use. Yes, Jon, that's a good point. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351077 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
I know. I was proposing a reason why wasting my time because if I don't use a thing everyday it doesn't get imprinted might not apply. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: My comment still applies. Even if you learn and forget all of those frameworks in succession, because most of them feature MVC/OO/ORM/etc, that stuff should stick. Yes everyone's comment applies,I was not intending to diminish anyone's perspective. :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351078 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
Frameworks exist because they help solve problems This is why the best framework is the one you design yourself to solve your problems. Solutions for other people's problems ar not always good for you and may even cause more problems you will ever encounter. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351079 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
For certain breeds of unique problem, that's probably true. For most breeds of common problem, let's not spend a week or two developing a custom framework before problem-solving commences. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:00 PM, wrote: Frameworks exist because they help solve problems This is why the best framework is the one you design yourself to solve your problems. Solutions for other people's problems ar not always good for you and may even cause more problems you will ever encounter. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351080 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
I think much of it overshadows and diminishes what CFML's biggest advantage has always been, which is simplicity to use and ease to learn, CFML is itself a RAD Framework for JAVA don;t forget. If a newbie comes along here they are invariably told to use OOP, use MVC, use a framework, use cfscript and all the other most complex parts of CF, which rather defeats the point of using CFML doesn't it. The average newbie to CF really only needs to learn a handful of tags and functions to do what he needs on a basic site, even CFC's are not required. The frameworks, OOP and MVC topic really belongs in the realm of advanced developers who need this stuff and enterprise apps, the newbie and dabbler really shouldn't need to feel pressured into learning this stuff if they don;t need it. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:00 PM, wrote: Frameworks exist because they help solve problems This is why the best framework is the one you design yourself to solve your problems. Solutions for other people's problems ar not always good for you and may even cause more problems you will ever encounter. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351081 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
I may just stick with FB for now, I already am comfortable with it. The path of least resistance... Lol ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351082 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
I think much of it overshadows and diminishes what CFML's biggest advantage has always been, which is simplicity to use and ease to learn, CFML is itself a RAD Framework for JAVA don;t forget. If a newbie comes along here they are invariably told to use OOP, use MVC, use a framework, use cfscript and all the other most complex parts of CF, which rather defeats the point of using CFML doesn't it. The average newbie to CF really only needs to learn a handful of tags and functions to do what he needs on a basic site, even CFC's are not required. The frameworks, OOP and MVC topic really belongs in the realm of advanced developers who need this stuff and enterprise apps, the newbie and dabbler really shouldn't need to feel pressured into learning this stuff if they don;t need it. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:00 PM, wrote: Another excellent point. I mean ease of use was one of the reasons I chose and was directed at CF years ago. Really, I am between contracts right now, I figure to apply some framework on personal projects to keep my skills up to a degree but also to allow for possibility of expansion of those projects onto higher levels in the future. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351083 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
Russ, did I meet you in the UK a few years ago, you offered me some beer on a job interview? Lol ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351084 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
FarCry CMS question
I hope someone with knowledge of farcry CMS sees this question I am new to farcry and looking at some existing code. I have a question on friendly URL. At what time of the application do the actual URL gets parsed to friendly URL. Suppose I have a href link as a href=www.example.com?objectid=123askjhdakjshdkasjhdGo to new page/a When I click the above link, the new page URL is a friendly URL. I checked in onApplicationStart, but the URL is constructed even before that. Can you let me know at what time is the URL parsed, and which function does it? Is it fixURL function in utils.cfc? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351085 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: FarCry CMS question
Check out the farcry developers group: http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev?pli=1 The URL's are parsed to friendly when the page/nav is created. In the admin there's a way to reprocess all friendly URLs but the exact location depends on your version of farcry. You have to be running either apache's re-write mod or ISAPI Rewrite for IIS to get this to work. Everything friendly should filter through the go.cfm file in your root. Look in farcry's wiki, there are rules for how to set up the parsing of friendly urls for apache and ISAPI. Hope that gets you going in the right direction. -Jake On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: I hope someone with knowledge of farcry CMS sees this question I am new to farcry and looking at some existing code. I have a question on friendly URL. At what time of the application do the actual URL gets parsed to friendly URL. Suppose I have a href link as a href=www.example.com?objectid=123askjhdakjshdkasjhdGo to new page/a When I click the above link, the new page URL is a friendly URL. I checked in onApplicationStart, but the URL is constructed even before that. Can you let me know at what time is the URL parsed, and which function does it? Is it fixURL function in utils.cfc? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351086 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: FarCry CMS question
Jake, Thanks for answering. I already posted in the facry google groups 4 hours back, and the moderators still did not approve my question, so thought I'd take a chance here I already set the apache mod_Rewrite conditions. My question was more when the objectid is parsed to friendly URL. The friendly url converts the objectid into its respective marketing name. I want to check the query it is using to get the marketing name. I am guessing a query like below: select * from table1 where objectid = '#URL.objectid#' Check out the farcry developers group: http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev?pli=1 The URL's are parsed to friendly when the page/nav is created. In the admin there's a way to reprocess all friendly URLs but the exact location depends on your version of farcry. You have to be running either apache's re-write mod or ISAPI Rewrite for IIS to get this to work. Everything friendly should filter through the go.cfm file in your root. Look in farcry's wiki, there are rules for how to set up the parsing of friendly urls for apache and ISAPI. Hope that gets you going in the right direction. -Jake On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351087 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
Agreed. I'm porting a number of sites to FW/1 on Railo and I've found the communities and developers for both to be extremely helpful. Also, in my experience FW/1 is much easier to implement than Fusebox. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: Many people believe Framework/1 (fw1.riaforge.org) is the true successor to Fusebox. +1 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351088 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: FarCry CMS question
I think the table is farFU. I know there's a CFC with that name so it should have been scaffolded or whatever by default. Each object can have multiple friendly URLs (see the SEO tab for pretty much anything in the Site tab in the admin). It's been a while since I messed with this stuff. There used to be a fu.cfc but I don't think that's there anymore and go.cfm might be deprecated as well. In looking at the documentation, it looks like as of version 5, it uses furl instead of path in the URL which looks to be parsed in the core Application.cfc around line 581 for me which makes use of the parseURL method in farFU.cfc. Hope that helps. -Jake On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: Jake, Thanks for answering. I already posted in the facry google groups 4 hours back, and the moderators still did not approve my question, so thought I'd take a chance here I already set the apache mod_Rewrite conditions. My question was more when the objectid is parsed to friendly URL. The friendly url converts the objectid into its respective marketing name. I want to check the query it is using to get the marketing name. I am guessing a query like below: select * from table1 where objectid = '#URL.objectid#' Check out the farcry developers group: http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev?pli=1 The URL's are parsed to friendly when the page/nav is created. In the admin there's a way to reprocess all friendly URLs but the exact location depends on your version of farcry. You have to be running either apache's re-write mod or ISAPI Rewrite for IIS to get this to work. Everything friendly should filter through the go.cfm file in your root. Look in farcry's wiki, there are rules for how to set up the parsing of friendly urls for apache and ISAPI. Hope that gets you going in the right direction. -Jake On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351089 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
As an example of this, learning MVC and DI in Coldbox made it much easier to dive into .Net MVC when I was working in a .Net/C# shop. There were certainly some differences in how things were done in each framework (Coldbox was better than .Net MVC in pretty much every way, though .Net MVC got much better in later versions) but the concepts were mostly the same. I understood models, controllers, views, helper functions, dependency injection, etc and it became a matter of picking up the particulars of the new framework and the differences in underlying language (CF vs C#). Definitely helpful to me as a developer. Judah On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:49 AM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: My comment still applies. Even if you learn and forget all of those frameworks in succession, because most of them feature MVC/OO/ORM/etc, that stuff should stick. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351090 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: FarCry CMS question
Yes you are right. go.cfm is using URL.path where as farcry 6 is using furl variable. I am using farcry 6. I have read through the docs, and its not mentioned clearly anywhere about the friendlyURL. Can you tell me if my understanding is correct below: 1) User requests a page with url like www.example.com?objectid=2129873akjlsdlasjdl 2) Farcry checks if the friendly url variable is turned on, and then parses the above URL to a friendly URL 3) Once the friendlyURL is constructed, the page redirects to friendlyURL? Thanks. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Jake Churchill reyna...@gmail.com wrote: I think the table is farFU. I know there's a CFC with that name so it should have been scaffolded or whatever by default. Each object can have multiple friendly URLs (see the SEO tab for pretty much anything in the Site tab in the admin). It's been a while since I messed with this stuff. There used to be a fu.cfc but I don't think that's there anymore and go.cfm might be deprecated as well. In looking at the documentation, it looks like as of version 5, it uses furl instead of path in the URL which looks to be parsed in the core Application.cfc around line 581 for me which makes use of the parseURL method in farFU.cfc. Hope that helps. -Jake On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: Jake, Thanks for answering. I already posted in the facry google groups 4 hours back, and the moderators still did not approve my question, so thought I'd take a chance here I already set the apache mod_Rewrite conditions. My question was more when the objectid is parsed to friendly URL. The friendly url converts the objectid into its respective marketing name. I want to check the query it is using to get the marketing name. I am guessing a query like below: select * from table1 where objectid = '#URL.objectid#' Check out the farcry developers group: http://groups.google.com/group/farcry-dev?pli=1 The URL's are parsed to friendly when the page/nav is created. In the admin there's a way to reprocess all friendly URLs but the exact location depends on your version of farcry. You have to be running either apache's re-write mod or ISAPI Rewrite for IIS to get this to work. Everything friendly should filter through the go.cfm file in your root. Look in farcry's wiki, there are rules for how to set up the parsing of friendly urls for apache and ISAPI. Hope that gets you going in the right direction. -Jake On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM, fun and learning funandlrnn...@gmail.comwrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351091 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
Lol, quite possibly, waz it an interview at loud n clear, the md always endded up dragging everyone to the pub. Regards Russ Michaels From my mobile On 9 May 2012 18:24, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: Russ, did I meet you in the UK a few years ago, you offered me some beer on a job interview? Lol ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351092 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
I was going to ask, which frameworks are the most popular in terms of actual employment statistics but even then, it might all be a waste of time if my next contract doesn't use ( framework x,y, or z ). Maybe what you are looking for isn't going to be solved by a framework, but by a better methodology. By far, the most popular way to write web applications these days, an improvement over the old Fusebox days, and certainly enabled (and sometimes forced) by all the frameworks, is MVC. The Model-View-Controller pattern is pretty ideal for web applications, and is one of the best tools we developers have these days. You can do it without a framework, it's not hard ( www.dopefly.com/techblog/entry.cfm?entry=307 and www.dopefly.com/techblog/entry.cfm?entry=308), and it's much more important than marrying yourself to any specific framework. nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com] [hi.im/nathanstrutz] [about.me/nathanstrutz] On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: But my approach to frameworks has been to 'wait and see'. Because I don't like wasting my time. I need to do something on a daily basis other wise it wont stick. I delayed learning any Framework and then just learned fusebox at a job/contract. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351093 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Nathan Strutz wrote: The Model-View-Controller pattern is pretty ideal for web applications, and is one of the best tools we developers have these days. You can do it without a framework, it's not hard ( www.dopefly.com/techblog/entry.cfm?entry=307 and www.dopefly.com/techblog/entry.cfm?entry=308), and it's much more important than marrying yourself to any specific framework. +infinity ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351094 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
I was going to ask, which frameworks are the most popular in terms of actual employment statistics but even then, it might all be a waste of time if my next contract doesn't use ( framework x,y, or z ). Maybe what you are looking for isn't going to be solved by a framework, but by a better methodology. By far, the most popular way to write web applications these days, an improvement over the old Fusebox days, and certainly enabled (and sometimes forced) by all the frameworks, is MVC. The Model-View-Controller pattern is pretty ideal for web applications, and is one of the best tools we developers have these days. You can do it without a framework, it's not hard ( www.dopefly.com/techblog/entry.cfm?entry=307 and www.dopefly.com/techblog/entry.cfm?entry=308), and it's much more important than marrying yourself to any specific framework. nathan strutz [www.dopefly.com] [hi.im/nathanstrutz] [about.me/nathanstrutz] Yes thanks Nathan, this has been an excellent addition. I would much rather stick to my own style while integrating a MVC approach... I'm not big on abstraction and would rather keep it as simple as possible. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351095 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
Maybe what you are looking for isn't going to be solved by a framework, but by a better methodology. By far, the most popular way to write web applications these days, an improvement over the old Fusebox days, and certainly enabled (and sometimes forced) by all the frameworks, is MVC. The Model-View-Controller pattern is pretty ideal for web applications, and is one of the best tools we developers have these days. You can do it without a framework, it's not hard ( www.dopefly.com/techblog/entry.cfm?entry=307 and www.dopefly.com/techblog/entry.cfm?entry=308), and it's much more important than marrying yourself to any specific framework. Hi Nathan, many thanks for your links. I really like how you've broken the whole MVC down into the most basic bite sized chunks your approach was very straight forward and easily digestible. IE - you wrote how I think. Well done and thanks again. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351096 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: after a long hiatus back to talk about frameworks
Nathan is DA MAN! :-) Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SII On May 9, 2012 9:48 PM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: Maybe what you are looking for isn't going to be solved by a framework, but by a better methodology. By far, the most popular way to write web applications these days, an improvement over the old Fusebox days, and certainly enabled (and sometimes forced) by all the frameworks, is MVC. The Model-View-Controller pattern is pretty ideal for web applications, and is one of the best tools we developers have these days. You can do it without a framework, it's not hard ( www.dopefly.com/techblog/entry.cfm?entry=307 and www.dopefly.com/techblog/entry.cfm?entry=308), and it's much more important than marrying yourself to any specific framework. Hi Nathan, many thanks for your links. I really like how you've broken the whole MVC down into the most basic bite sized chunks your approach was very straight forward and easily digestible. IE - you wrote how I think. Well done and thanks again. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351097 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
