Re: Solr Suggestions
I can't get it to accept more than 4 custom fields, and it won't let me use the new CF10 custom field syntax for custom fields either (where you can do something like catalogid_i versus custom1). Just to follow up on this, I did figure out that the problem with the dynamic custom fields was I was testing it originally with more than 4 fields. It appears that although the information on improvements to Solr in CF10 say there is no limit on custom fields, that is not the case, I verified that you get an error with more than 4 on both Standard and Enterprise. Still checking on some of the other issues. I did also find that the errors I was getting with type on the cfsearch tag was due to the docs never having been updated from Verity, even though a bug was reported by someone else for this reason (using a value the docs say is the default!) and someone else commented on the page on the wiki that it doesn't seem to work in CF10. It would be nice if someone reviewed and fixed those docs once in awhile. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:360080 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Suggestions
The one I'm frustrated with though is the status fields. They are supposed to include a keywords struct and keywordScore when the suggestions criteria is met Just to follow up more on this, I continue to be frustrated trying to work with the Solr on our CF10 install, it's almost like we have a completely different CF version just for Solr. I can't get it to accept more than 4 custom fields, and it won't let me use the new CF10 custom field syntax for custom fields either (where you can do something like catalogid_i versus custom1). Anyone seen this? We have all the latest CF updates for 10 installed. Is there a difference in Solr support between Standard and Enterprise? Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:360061 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Suggestions
one thing to bear in mind, if you are using shared hositng. If any customer on the server deletes their collection (i.e. deletes the files or folders) this completely breaks SOLR for everyone else. for this reason I would avoid using SOLR unless it will be running on dedicated hosting. Yes, this is a dedicated, enterprise level client. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:360059 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Solr Suggestions
I'm working on an integration with Solr specifically to use it to help lookup word suggestions for our searches. However, the cfsearch docs are definitely driving me nuts. First, the type attribute doesn't seem to work at all in CF10, even though it's clearly included in the documentation for that version. Using it though just throws errors. Not that there is very useful information on how to use it, anyway. The one I'm frustrated with though is the status fields. They are supposed to include a keywords struct and keywordScore when the suggestions criteria is met, but I have never seen these show up even when I am getting suggestions. It would be very helpful to have, since this is why we are implementing Solr in the first place. but I'm baffled as to how you get these to come up. If they are no longer included, as seems to be the case with the type attribute, it would be nice if Adobe actually updated the docs to include that information (I know, pie in the sky for us to actually have accurate docs!) Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:360054 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Solr Suggestions
I'm working on an integration with Solr specifically to use it to help lookup word suggestions for our searches. However, the cfsearch docs are definitely driving me nuts. First, the type attribute doesn't seem to work at all in CF10, even though it's clearly included in the documentation for that version. Using it though just throws errors. Not that there is very useful information on how to use it, anyway. The one I'm frustrated with though is the status fields. They are supposed to include a keywords struct and keywordScore when the suggestions criteria is met, but I have never seen these show up even when I am getting suggestions. It would be very helpful to have, since this is why we are implementing Solr in the first place. but I'm baffled as to how you get these to come up. If they are no longer included, as seems to be the case with the type attribute, it would be nice if Adobe actually updated the docs to include that information (I know, pie in the sky for us to actually have accurate docs!) Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:360053 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFFormProtect
No need to assume - just open up dev tools and look at the response after you post a comment to my blog. ;) LOL, well that would require work on my part to come up with a meaningful reply to something. ;-) But that's what I ended up returning and it works perfectly now. Some day when I have more free time I may redo the whole thing to move it into remote method calls so that it matches all the other Ajax on the site but I needed a quick solution and this does the job. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355724 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFFormProtect
I'm using it with Ajax. View source on my blog. (Yes, I'm being lazy. ;) Not a problem, I am too. ;-) Thanks, that looks like it will give me a good jump start on doing it. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355662 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFFormProtect
Not a problem, I am too. ;-) Thanks, that looks like it will give me a good jump start on doing it. Thanks Ray, got enough from looking at your front-end code to figure it out, only need a few minor tweaks for the cfformprotect code itself. I'm used to doing all my ajax to CF components via remote methods rather than directly posting to a cfm page which seems to be the easiest way to go in this situation, but was easy enough once I figured out that you just need to output the JSON directly to the page (I'm assuming you're just using a struct with a success var and any text message). Not my preferred way of doing Ajax but guess that's just a style thing. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355663 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CFFormProtect
I know a lot of us here love cfformprotect as a captcha replacement. I'm wondering though if anyone has used with for forms submitted via Ajax. I'm assuming it's going to need some tweaking but thought I'd see if anyone has done this, and how much work was involved. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355659 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom 404 with CF10
the requirement to enable detailed errors is actually with IIS7 not CF10, so if this was causing your issue it would have affected CF9 as well. Did you also upgrade from IIS6 to IIS7 by any chance ? Nope, for whatever reason we were not having the same issue on IIS7 and CF9 However you can set this option on a folder by folder basis with IIS7, you do not have to enable detailed errors for your entire sire. so on the folder that contains your customer error page simply disable that option. Good idea, I tried that and it does seem to work, thanks! Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355405 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Custom 404 with CF10
We're looking at moving to CF10 but have run into an issue we can't seem to figure out. It's not a problem on CF9 but is a deal breaker for us with CF10 unless we can find a solution. Basically our site uses a custom 404 handler, which is set up in IIS using the Execute URL as it calls a .cfm page that goes through our MVC controller. The problem we've run into is that to get CF errors, we have to set IIS to return detailed error messages and so it won't let us set a custom 404. If we turn off the setting in the CF10 admin for returning 404/500 headers, that messes up our ability to see 500 server errors when there's a problem with an Ajax call which we use a lot to internal components. I've goggled this issue and spent hours searching for a solution, to no avail. It seems the only way around it is to use a static 404 which is not what we want to do. We use extensive SEO rewriting so we can't use the CF 404 setting either. Anyone else figured out a way to do this? Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355398 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom 404 with CF10
Why not have the standard cf 404 handler redirect to your custom error page? Because it needs to handle situations that are not only CF 404s. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355400 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Custom 404 with CF10
then do the same with the error template as well ? No, I mean they are not seen as ColdFusion errors of any kind. We'd have to make changes to our site and how the SEO is handled, etc. to make sure that anything that could conceivably be a 404 would get sent to CF in some way. I also seem to recall that using a cflocation to get a 404 handler could be tricky in terms of correctly returning a 404 header to the browser. Is that not the case? Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355402 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Wait for File to Get Written
maybe use cfdirectory and look at 'dateLastModified' to wait for it to be 2~5 old (so you know it has finished writing to it) Well, not sure that has any benefit by itself versus just checking if the file exists. I would make a retry loop, say 5 times with a sleep in between and break out if file found Okay, yeah this is more the piece I was looking for, a way to find the file quickly if it is there, while also ensuring that the page won't hang waiting for it if it doesn't complete. Yeah, this should work nicely, thanks! Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351363 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Wait for File to Get Written
If you just add a timeout to your cfexecute, CF will wait and continue when the legacy program is ready. Cool, yeah that looks like a good addition to this particular process. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351364 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Wait for File to Get Written
I've run into this a number of times the last few months and couldn't find anything in the archives that really seemed to address it. It's a common enough issue that I'm sure people have dealt with it, and I'm curious what solutions you might use. Basically I have situations where I need to wait for ColdFusion to finish creating a file before displaying it. The legacy code I'm working with using a cfexecute to run an executable file, and it uses this code snippet: cfloop condition=NOT FileExists(theFileName)/cfloop cfinclude template=viewFile.cfm So basically it loops until it finds the file and then sends it down via a cfcontent tag. I'm not particularly fond of this as if for any reason the executable fails, you end up waiting for a timeout situation. In the past I've used a sleep() to just pause the page but that's not particularly ideal either. Any better options, or maybe a combination of the two? Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351359 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Problems verifying integers
Here you go if you want to vote on it: https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3169196 Thought I'd post a followup on this, Adobe closed it saying they wouldn't fix this because it would cause backward compatibility issues. Personally I can't imagine using isValid(integer) and WANTING currency symbols and commas to go through, so guess I'll just have to keep writing my own functions for doing this. It's annoying sometimes the illogic that is often left in a language in the interest of backwards compatibility. You end up with stuff like this that just can't even be used for its intended purpose. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351282 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Problems verifying integers
I'm curious if anyone has run into this and has a better solution. I have a site with a variety of search fields. One of these fields allows for a search string...if string value, it searches matching description/text fields. If an integer, it matches the primary key value. Pretty straightforward. The problem is that I haven't found a really reliable way in CF to make sure that the integer is indeed a DB-safe integer, so hack attempts constantly cause errors to get thrown. isNumeric() lets way too much stuff through. So I switched to isValid(integer) which did a little better. But it seems to still allow stuff like commas and even currency symbols, passing them through as a valid integer. LSParseNumber will fix the commas, but it throws errors for the currency symbol. So I've had to resort to using a RegEx to strip out any non-numeric stuff. Does this seem odd to anyone else? I would think there would be some way these functions would work to prevent passing invalid data to a cfsqlparam with type cf_sql_integer but I couldn't find a way that didn't allow something illegal through. FYI, I believe this is a CF8 server, so maybe this kind of issue has been corrected? Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350778 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Problems verifying integers
Thanks guys, sure there's other ways to FIX the number, but that wasn't exactly my question. I just find it weird that isValid(integer) would consider $123,123 as a valid integer valuesuch that I have to fix it in the first place! That sure wouldn't pass in another language, and yes, I know this is not a strongly typed language. I just find it frustrating, that this function doesn't seem to perform what it's intended to so I have to add additional logic to see if what was entered really was an integer or not. Justin...you're right about huge numbers passing too...I think that was actually why I switched from isNumeric() which allowed those through to the isValid() function which doesn't. Mary Jo I would think there would be some way these functions would work to prevent passing invalid data to a cfsqlparam with type cf_sql_integer but I couldn't find a way that didn't allow something illegal through. If I know a variable is supposed to be an integer (usually a primary key), I will do: cfparam name=url.id default=0 cfset url.id = abs(val(trim(url.id))) This will force the value to a positive integer or zero. If you just want to test the variable to see which search type should be triggered: cfif abs(val(trim(url.id))) eq url.id) !--- Is positive integer --- cfelse !--- Not so much --- /cfif If people are entering values that could include dollar signs and commas that need to be considered, a regex to remove non-numeric characters (expect perhaps a period) would probably be the better choice, or at least a replaceList() to remove the commonly used but undesired characters before passing it through a sanitizer. At one point (years ago) Google was hitting pages and throwing very large numbers into some integer URL variables which caused an out-of-range error and I even added a min() function with the resulting sanitized value and 20 as the parameters to keep the value in range, though I haven't seen that for a while, but something to keep in mind if you see an error like that come up. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350781 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Problems verifying integers
I agree that seems a little wonky. I ran the code below to test some values with ColdFusion 9 and the results are included in the inline comments: Cool, thanks for verifying that it's equally as wonky on later versions. In my case, it's not a huge deal to sanitize what passes, I mostly was annoyed that I had to add additional code just to get it to work the way it seems to be intended. Maybe I'll put in a bug report on it Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350789 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Problems verifying integers
Cool, thanks for verifying that it's equally as wonky on later versions. In my case, it's not a huge deal to sanitize what passes, I mostly was annoyed that I had to add additional code just to get it to work the way it seems to be intended. Maybe I'll put in a bug report on it Here you go if you want to vote on it: https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3169196 Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350791 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is this CF tutorial still valid?
I'm about to begin work with PayPal's IPN and, although I think I've got the gist of the process, I was wondering if this tutorial is still valid... http://tutorial23.easycfm.com/ Pretty much yes, other than where to find the IPN settings at PP (now under Profile - My Selling Settings I believe). There's a LOT this doesn't cover but the code should basically still work. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349868 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Opinion: Abuse of session variables
Race conditions certainly exist. Specifically though, race conditions involving session variables which can be resolved using CFLOCK, are relatively uncommon. In my personal experience anyway... +! In my experience anything that would really be effected by race conditions shouldn't be in session scope to begin with. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349769 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Hiding email address from spiders
I had the same problem.. what I did is store the email addresses in a database and then replace the email link with a link to a feedback form on your website. When people want to email someone, they click the link, fill out and submit the form. They never get to see the actual email address. This is my preferred approach as well, just don't show the emails but integrate them into a contact form and link to that. It's far better IMO than using an image which is a real pain for a user of the site to have to copy an email out of. I do find cfformprotect works great for preventing form spam and is FAR more user friendly than nasty captchas. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348051 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ecommerce - need it to allow vendors to manage their own inventory sections - any recommendations?
The best test is to try both and see if your app works on them without issue, and then look at their unique features. Of course, there *is* information out there in terms of what they don't support that ACF does, you don't have to go to the trouble of running your app to find that out. Here's some Railo information: http://wiki.getrailo.org/wiki/Tags_Not_Supported Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347698 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ecommerce - need it to allow vendors to manage their own inventory sections - any recommendations?
The best test is to try both and see if your app works on them without issue, and then look at their unique features. And unsupported functions: http://wiki.getrailo.org/wiki/Functions_Not_Supported Not sure if this is comprehensive, and you'd still want to test your app, but this is a good starting point to see if you are using anything that is known to not work. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347699 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Standard License
Not sure if this is comprehensive, and you'd still want to test your app, but this is a good starting point to see if you are using anything that is known to not work. Oops, sorry about the messed up subject. Didn't realize LastPass was filling that in from the last thread I replied to online. Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347704 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Ecommerce - need it to allow vendors to manage their own inventory sections - any recommendations?
Need to set up an ecommerce site that will allow every vendor to manage their own items for sale while still being published to one central website. If you're looking for a ColdFusion solution, my software CFWebstore does have features to help support this. There's a special permission to restrict product admin access to only the current users' products that can typically be used for this kind of function. Depending on your exact needs you may need to do a little additional tweaking of the code but it does most of the heavy lifting. Mary Jo Sminkey http://www.cfwebstore.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347340 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Mura or Control Panel
Speaking of Mura I went to www.houseoffusion.com to look up a Mura discussion list but discovered that the site is down. I didn't see anyone mention it but the best place for Mura support and help is their online forum: http://www.getmura.com/forum - Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346962 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Duplicate attribute error
I'm invoking a component method to do an update when a form is posted (CFMX7). However, when I try to invoke the method I get the error: A duplicate attribute METHOD has been encountered. Attributes with the same name cannot be provided more than once. I know this is a really old thread, but I have a customer that is getting this error and same situation, there doesn't seem to be any reason for it. Did you ever figure this out (or does anyone else know what the cause might be?) MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346228 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Duplicate attribute error
Do you have an attribute called method in the CFC ? method is a reserved word as it is used to specify the Method in the CFC you want to call, so you cannot have your own attribute called method as well. Actually, I finally tracked it down. It was due to a CFHTTP tag inside the CFC that had two method attributes on it. MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346230 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Duplicate attribute error
Actually, I finally tracked it down. It was due to a CFHTTP tag inside the CFC that had two method attributes on it. I should add, in case anyone else runs into this, that the error CF reported was for the cfinvoke line. But the actual problem was down inside the component. MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer
Good point MJ. I have some exceptionally productive developers who are working from home - largely single. I'm betting they would agree with you. FYI - have you checked out Sean's site? :D LOL, I might just do that... MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345639 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer
I have been far more productive since I moved out of the house and into a proper office, as has my wife (who works for me). And for many of us, the opposite is the case. Being single and without kids, I actually have far fewer distractions at home than at work where there are often people chatting and talking on the phone, etc. around me. I also have developed some chronic back problems from sitting in a chair all day so in an office situation, have to get up and stretch on a regular basis, whereas at home I have more options for positions to work from and can work longer stretches without having to interrupt my work. Everyone's situation is unique and I think it's great that some employers realize this and are bending on the telecommuting issue. MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345587 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: VPS Hosting
I hope they're better than when I used them about 3 years ago. I had nothing but problems and virtually no response from the owner when my server went offline. Hopefully, their service has improved and everyone that's using them is getting better service and support, but my experience was anything but positive. Same here, I went through the same major outage 3 years ago with AHP, and it was particularly the total lack of response that drove me off. That's the reason I ended up with KickAssVPS. +1 Nothing but praise at this point for KAVPS. I sometimes forget I even have a server there, it's been so problem-free. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345112 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
Just checking in Mary. Were you able to get past this? Have you considering contacting Adobe for official support? No, we had to drop the use of Solr at this time, Just FYI, I did submit a bug report on this, if anyone wants to comment or vote on it. http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html?#bugId=86807 While I can batch up the data a single users add and run a single cfindex function to update all of it at once, I can't find a way to prevent issues with other types of concurrent cfindexes happening, such as multiple users or my unit tests. Cflock doesn't seem to lock the entire Solr indexing process so wasn't any help. http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html?#bugId=86807 --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344507 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Shameful
The AIR demo appears to just be a Flash movie demonstrating integration with CF. :) I've tried to update my Flash plugin but, alas, Adobe says updates happen automatically. Since you mention having the Flash debug version, I'll pass on a tidbit I discovered just yesterday. The regular Flash and the debug version do NOT render code the same. I have a Flex application in development that was not working for my users but was working fine for me (at least in FF). Turns out that the code that worked on the debug Flash player that I had installed did not work in the standard player for some reason (it didn't like something about the way my authentication business class was written so just skipped right over it). So it's always possible if you see a problem in one or the other, that it might be specific to that player version. If it's not been tested and validated against the debug version, it's possible there's some issue that the developers might not have caught. Just an FYI to watch out for. If you have another browser with the standard Flash player, might be interesting to check it against that. --- MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:37 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
Just checking in Mary. Were you able to get past this? Have you considering contacting Adobe for official support? No, we had to drop the use of Solr at this time, it wasn't critical enough for this application to pay for a support ticket (and that involves a heck of red tape here and takes forever...this was a case of get it working asap). We're still using Solr for a lot of our data (documents, PDFs, etc.), but only the stuff that gets updated every night, and not the data that users are adding frequently. Unfortunately there just did not seem to be a way to index those at runtime as soon as they are added without having issues, and the users were not willing to wait for them to be indexed at specific time intervals (say run the indexing every x minutes) which would have been the best workaround. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344402 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
To be clear - is this only for your unit tests? Could you possibly use sleep() to slow things down a bit? That's a hack - but would allow you to keep testing. Currently it's only showing up on my unit tests, but that's only because I'm the only one using the application. If multiple people add data at the same time, I would expect to see it then as well. And I'm also just finishing up a process for adding a batch of these data objects at once, that as well will cause it to bomb. So yeah, I can throw a long sleep in there to get my tests to pass (I'm having to sleep for at least a minute for each cfindex right now for it to get by this), but that's not going to fix the problem for production use. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343644 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
According to this you should be able to comment out caching altogether in the solrconfig.xml file. Cool, thanks I'll try that. The info I had from the Solr folks was to set autowarmCount=0 for all the caching, but that didn't seem to have any effect. Maybe removing caching completely will do it. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343646 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
Cool, thanks I'll try that. The info I had from the Solr folks was to set autowarmCount=0 for all the caching, but that didn't seem to have any effect. Maybe removing caching completely will do it. Sigh, nope I commented out the three types of caches in the config file and still get the error. Tried lowering the size on them as well, but even with sleeping for a minute after every cfindex, I still get the error. The only thing that prevents it is upping the setting for maxWarmingSearchers to something like 10, then I don't hit the limit. But not sure this is going to be a valid solution, since if a user tries to add a batch of say, 20 items, I can expect to still crash on this. It's looking like I won't be able to use Solr for the data at this point, at least, not if I want it immediately available in a search. I'm not sure I have enough time late in this project to build some kind of other module for Solr to do this, it's more important right now to just get it working, so that looks like just doing a plain SQL search of the data (yuck). --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343651 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
Same here and that is basically what we are doing today with Verity. This whole thread though is making me want to get started on Solr testing since the plan was eventually to migrate from our Verity solution to Solr. Hhm, I wonder if I just need to switch over the Verity then? Didn't really want to redo all the syntax for my searches, but if it works Yeah, I agree it seems like there should be *some* way around this! It's fairly easy to test this, by putting some cfindex code into a loop. But it appears to have a lot to do as well with the size of the collection, so you have to be sure to load it with enough records to see the problem. My collection has a lot of data, which is why I didn't see this earlier in testing when I had a small sub-set of data loaded, the Solr searches would do their work quickly and move on. It was only when I started loaded my entire set of data that I started seeing the problem, as Solr then was taking a lot longer to create a new searcher, run the index code, and then destroy the searcher after it was done. So they pile up very quickly if you are running a bunch of cfindex tags in one request. I could probably figure out a way to bulk load my batch functions, but that still leaves me with problems if multiple users are adding data at once. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343655 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
What are you loading into your index (queries or documents)? Can you provide a code snippet of your process? Just results of a query, so nothing real earth-shattering. Just wanted to use Solr to search all my long text fields that hold a considerable amount of data (users have a search interface to select which tables to search, I'm using categories to handle that). The majority of the data gets updated and reindexed nightly, this is the one type of data that users can add and so needs to be updated at runtime. My cfindex tag looks like this: cfindex collection=#docCollection# action=update body=thedata category=IMPACT custom1=grant_id custom2=fy key=key query=local.qryImpacts / --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343664 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
Well, by doing some research on the Solr boards and lists, I was able to figure out the problem. It appears to be due to CF committing after every cfindex tag and this causes Solr to open a new searcher and auto warm it (load from cache). If you are committing more frequently than the warming process, these searches pile up and you hit the error. So if you have a page that runs a lot of cfindex tags (as my unit tests were) you can easily hit this error. Problem is, I'm not sure how we can work around this easily. I tried setting the autoWarmCounts to 0 to see if I could reduce the startup time (and since my app does a lot more indexing at runtime than searches so slow startup is not a big issue) but I still hit the error when the number of searches exceeded the maximum set. I could try setting the limit for warming searches higher (setting it to 10 for instance fixes the problem with my tests) but that supposedly is a bit of a performance killer. In cases where my users are adding a batch of these data elements that I'm indexing, I'm almost certainly to bang into that limit again. In my case, it may mean we simply cannot use Solr for this, unless there's someway to batch the commits and just do one single one at the end of the request. What we need is something like a cftransaction tag for the cfindex tag. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343624 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
Well, technically yes - there was a CHF after 901. Sorry, I meant for Solr in particular. I can try the hot fix (don't recall if I installed it or not) but I'm not seeing anything listed that would effect Solr: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/862/cpsid_86263.html MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343570 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
Interesting. It almost sounds like a load issue. Was the site under heavy load? No, not at all. This was just running some unit tests locally. Basically the tests add a new data point, index it to add it to the collection, then run a search for it to make sure they are being picked up properly. I'm concerned that we'll see it even more when the site is actually being used, so wondered if I need to put cflocks around the index tags? I wouldn't have thought that was needed with an update action but I'm guessing this is happening when 2 or 3 tests run concurrently. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343542 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
Mary Jo, These are options you can set in the INI files of Solr - along with standard JVM options. If you have a high traffic solr install you will need to fine tune it to run according to the amount of traffic you have. As I mentioned in my other reply, this is *not* happening under load, just with localhost testing, so there seems to be some other reason for it. It seems that if there's a max thread setting, it should wait until one becomes available? Rather than just throwing an error. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343543 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
I shouldn't imagine adding cflocks will do much good. The error is to do with the nature of your collections and the way in which the Solr server is configured (potentially it's JVM settings and or the server settings themselves). I think your best bet would be to ask the Solr folks, they'll be in a better position to help you out I should imagine. Just FYI, I've not configured anything up to this point to do with Solr, I'm just using it as it installs with ColdFusion. We've seen the same error on my local machine as well as our test server, so seems like there's some problem with how CF9 sets it up if I have to go in and modify the server because it's throwing these errors right out of the box. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343545 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
Are you running the latest CF9? There were Solr fixes past 9.0.0. CF9.01 on all boxes, so yes, unless there are other hot fixes past that. MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343551 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Solr Errors
Has anyone else seen these kinds of errors? I keep getting them on CF9.01 when I run cfindex tags to add new data to a Solr collection. org.apache.solr.common.SolrException: Error_opening_new_searcher_exceeded_limit_of_maxWarmingSearchers4_try_again_later Error_opening_new_searcher_exceeded_limit_of_maxWarmingSearchers4_try_again_later request: http://localhost:8983/solr/impacts_docs/update?commit=truewaitFlush=falsewaitSearcher=falsewt=javabinversion=1 --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343539 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)
The way I've done this in the past was to store the credentials on the flex client and re-authenticate the user with these using the CFLOGIN framework. This way the responsibility for continuing the session is on the flex side of things. I'd really rather not do this as it would mean using a login specific to the application. My current method uses their local machine login (which changes every 90 days)which is far more user-friendly as they don't have to remember a second login that's only for this tool. But it does require having to handle the authentication in CF. And right now, it's working great, no timeout issues and very little need for the users to do anything if it wasn't for the issue with the error handling --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343063 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)
if it wasn't for the issue with the error handling It does appear that this is a verified bug in CF 9.01: http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html#bugId=83525 Boy it's frustrating when new features are crippled with bugs that make them unusable! I'll have to play around with their suggested workaround and see if there's any way I can get that to work, as it's the one stumbling block for me with going this route. -- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343064 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)
I'll have to play around with their suggested workaround and see if there's any way I can get that to work, as it's the one stumbling block for me with going this route. That suggested workaround is a joke, no way I'd do the massive amount of recoding needed to use that. Their suggestion is to catch any errors and append the message to your return variables. Even if that worked in my framework (which is doesn't) it would require pretty much recoding all the business logic to look for these special error messages and handle them (before any other processing is done). I'm not even sure there's a way I could handle any unexpected exceptions this way, but it certainly wouldn't be easy and would probably mean dumping the entire Flex framework to do so. It's not even close to a reasonable solution. So looks like using onCFCRequest is out of the realm of possibilities. MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343066 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)
I'll have to play around with their suggested workaround and see if there's any way I can get that to work, as it's the one stumbling block for me with going this route. We decided to just look at adding a timer in Flex to keep the session alive. This should work well enough for our needs. I'm not particularly thrilled at not being able to verify the user is still logged in, but as long as we keep pinging the CF side from Flex, there's no reason they shouldn't be. Anyone tried doing this? I never like *relying* on timers but seems to be our best approach for now. Since this is an intranet app, and not one that needs a lot of security, we don't have to be hugely concerned about users trying to get around the authentication. -- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343067 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)
Okay, so we have a flex application running on top of ColdFusion. Basically going through CFCs as web services for whatever it needs. But I'm having a hard time coming up with the best way to handle sessions. I don't really store much in the session, other than just the user ID and whether they are logged in or not. I need to handle the user authentication on the CF side and then tell Flex the result. All easy enough when the app loads up. But I've been trying to make sure that on each CFC request, I am checking that they are still logged in and authenticated. I do have some code to ping CF and keep the session active, but just in case that isn't working, I need to make sure they are still active. I've been playing around with the onCFCRequest and got this working for the most part. If their session had timed out, it will just re-authenticate them and make sure they're still an active user before passing off the request to the CFC. Works great up to this point. The problem I'm having is that if they aren't logged in, or if an error is thrown inside a CFC and I have the event handler rethrow it, it's not throwing it to Flex correctly. Instead of the error type of FaultEvent that Flex accepts, it's throwing Server.Processing and instead of the normal error details, I always get one that says An exception occurred while invoking an event handler method from Application.cfc. The method name is: OnCfcRequest. The actual FaultEvent and details that I *should* be getting are buried further down inside the fault that Flex is getting (in extendedData.rootcause). So I'm not able to do any custom error handling in Flex or show the user the Flex-based login failed message. The fault handling worked fine before I added the onCFCRequest, so seems to be a bug when you use this. Anyone else played with this new event handler method much yet with Flex and find a solution for this? Or is there a better way of syncing sessions between Flex and ColdFusion that I can look at instead? I'm just not sure of a good way for Flex to know if the user is still logged in without running a separate authentication check before every service call which seems kind of kludgy. -- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343060 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Losing Sessions [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
in our case it was. client had a console page with secure/un-secure bits mixed together it was throwing off users w/IE7 after the hotfix was applied. while they work out what is actually wrong, adding that JVM argument fixed that issue. Cool, I'll see if my host can apply this, or I do have access to a CF7 server, so might see if the same problem occurs on it. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342843 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Losing Sessions [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
in our case it was. client had a console page with secure/un-secure bits mixed together it was throwing off users w/IE7 after the hotfix was applied. while they work out what is actually wrong, adding that JVM argument fixed that issue. Cool, I'll see if my host can apply this, or I do have access to a CF7 server, so might see if the same problem occurs on it. Drat, my host says they haven't applied that hot fix yet, so I assume that means adding the JVM argument isn't likely to fix anything, if the hot fix is what causes the issue. I think my next step is to test on the CF7 box and see if we see the same behavior there. --- MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342845 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Losing Sessions [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
Drat, my host says they haven't applied that hot fix yet, so I assume that means adding the JVM argument isn't likely to fix anything, if the hot fix is what causes the issue. I think my next step is to test on the CF7 box and see if we see the same behavior there. Okay, things work fine on the CF7 box, so at least we've narrowed it down to probably a server issue of some kind. At least I've got a better idea of where to look. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342852 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Losing Sessions
I'm having a really frustrating issue with an application and cannot figure out where the problem is. The client is getting randomly logged out of the system, basically the session is getting reset. So far, not all that unusual, I've certainly seen this kind of issue before. But the weird thing is, the CFID and CFTOKEN never change! When I track them, they stay the same from request to request, but all the session variables get reset anyway. I tried removing any code that would remotely have any possibility to do this (no logout function, etc.), but no luck, nor have I been able to definitely nail down the circumstances in which it occurs. It doesn't happen on all their computers (1 in 13 they say show the problem), and typically only happens on IE (definitely IE8, we haven't really tested anything else). They said they see it on FF too sometimes, but I've not been able to verify that, both Chrome and FF on the 2 effected users I worked with worked fine. I've not been able to replicate it myself, even using the same version of IE, many other users don't see it, and it just stumps me how the session is getting reset when the session token doesn't change, and when any code that would do so has been stripped out. Any ideas?? --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342827 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Losing Sessions
Check the CF Administrator under memory variables and see what the MAX timeout is for Application Session. Also, check the value on your CFAPPLICATION tag. Make sure you didn't change the session timeout there to something smaller than what you wanted. No, those are all fine. And if those were set incorrectly, it would certainly effect a much wider set of users than what we are seeing. It's a very small percentage that are seeing this. And it doesn't seem to be a particular amount of time that they lose their session, I would sometimes be able to reload a page several times before it'd drop me, and sometimes it'd happen immediately. On the effected computers though, it pretty much happens by the time you've clicked through 3 or 4 pages. Sometimes it would happen pretty much every time immediately. It's the failure of the CFID/CFTOKEN to change that's particularly confusing to me, since any other time when I've seen these kinds of issues and the session is being lost, they'll change on every request. Although I realized today I was only looking at a dump of the session vars, not the actual cookies, so maybe for some reason the session is getting dropped and then reinitialized with the same cookies?? Grasping at straws here... --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342832 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Losing Sessions
If that checks out, I'd try to track their session through the web logs. We recently had the same issue with randomly expiring sessions. It turned out that the client had a proxy that was changing their IP every minute or so; that, combined with or custom anti-session hijacking checks, was the cause of the lost sessions. I did ask them if they were behind a proxy or firewall or something similar, as something like this did occur to me as a possible cause but the information I have to go on is that they have users in multiple locations seeing it, and at least in one case they have many other computers in the same office that don't show the problem and only a couple that do. We're not using any IP checks for hijacking, other methods are in place for that (which I did remove temporarily just to make sure it didn't have anything to do with it...it didn't). It's really, really baffling. Oh, FYI, the server is running CF 9.01 --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342833 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Losing Sessions
How about dropping a cflog tag with some useful info into OnSessionStart to see if the sessions is actually restarting or not? Hhm, currently it uses application.cfm so that isn't available, I'd have to look at how easy it would be to switch it if this really becomes necessary to debug it. I'm also going to see if I can get access to an earlier server version to see if it's specific to CF9. But I did some diagnostics when I was testing that certainly seemed to indicate that the session was being lost when you clicked through to the next page. If I commented out the code that initialized the user ID in the session, when I clicked through to the next page, it would throw an error that it didn't exist when it hit a place in the page that used it. Since nowhere in the code do I ever *remove* that variable, that's a pretty good indication that the session is not persisting. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342835 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Losing Sessions
Separate domains? www.domain.com vs domain.com ? I've been caught by that before, and as far as cookies go, they see them as totally separate. No, no changes in the domain. Also not using SSL. I can reload the same page and get the session to drop (just takes a few tries sometimes). MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342838 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Losing Sessions
shot in the dark, but just had issues w/some IE7 browsers (not FF, chrome, etc.) losing sessions after applying latest hotfix which seems related to this: * A JVM property was added in case you want to completely switch off the fix for the Session Fixation issue ( Bug 86378) which prior to this security release changed Session behavior in some environments. Add the following JVM property –Dcoldfusion.session.protectfixation=false in the JVM Arguments for the Coldfusion Server. http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/890/cpsid_89094.html Well this definitely seems to be more in the ballpark! I'm not entirely sure I understand this note though, why would you want to switch off the fix? Is the fix itself the cause of the session loses? --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342839 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Change in ColdFusion management
Perhaps, but I think there needs to be a serious discussion about this. Adobe went about a weird way in announcing it and I guess hoped it wouldn't get much notice as a result. This is one of the biggest decisions they have made with ColdFusion in several years. I find it comical how determined some people are to say that the decisions made are good or bad as there's so much that can spin either way. For instance, Adam says that all his suggestions for CF X were signed off on. Sounds great, right? And it very well may be, I'm excited to see what they do with it. But will it come at the expense of getting some of the bugs and problems with CF 9 fixed reasonably soon? Hopefully not, but it's really just a matter of wait and see. Likewise the business changes. Maybe moving the management team to India will be GREAT, maybe not. I certainly couldn't predict which solely on that tiny bit of information alone. I've certainly seen management changes done with full intentions of improving business processes failing completely, and other times be a huge success. I certainly have concerns about it (and has nothing to do with whether the folks in India are talented and smart) who knows which one this will be? I think Adam's done a great job, and particularly being the face of Adobe here in the US, meeting with companies and customers, and I wonder if we will still have that kind of personal connection with everyone over in India. But all of that has little to do with the greatest concerns I have with CF, whether they will truly put some marketing muscle behind it and try to play some catch-up with these other languages and help growing the developer community (and job market) for it. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342284 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Coldfusion Hosting
Can anyone recommend a decent yet cheap web host for ColdFusion? Right now I'm hosting my site at DreamHost (Simple wordpress as CMS site). I didn't see anyone mention this, but for cheap hosting, but good service, you may want to consider looking at Railo hosting through Alurium.com. Personally I wouldn't touch GoDaddy hosting with a 20-foot pole. CF or otherwise. Horrible experiences with them. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341791 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so expensive?
Well, this sure was a fun thread to scan through (ha!) It's funny how adamant people can be about defending their position. Well, here's my two cents, for what it is worth. I've used both CFBuilder and CFEclipse, and I personally decided not to put the money out for a copy of CFBuilder at this time, because *for what I do* and how I write my code, I didn't feel it added enough value to warrant the cost *at this time*. I've seen some previews of v2 and I almost certainly will buy it when that version comes out (well, maybe after the first updateI usually avoid x.0 releases). I don't mind holding onto my cash and waiting for that release when it comes, versus buying now and then having to pay for an upgrade. It certainly wouldn't be the first time I've passed on a v1 release and waited for the v2 with more bugs worked out and more features included. It's no different than any other software decision I make in terms of cost-value to melike when I decided years ago that CF Studio was worth the price they charged ($250 I believe - which I thought was highway robbery...and then used that software for years and years!) CFEclipse for now does what I need, they've continued to improve it (the cfscript color coding for instance is definitely better than shown in that comparison PDF...and CFB is hardly perfect in this respect either). A lot of the features that CFB touts (like introspection or the SQL editor) don't tend to work for me the way my projects are set up, or particularly when I'm using Coldspring for everything. And many of the extensions I tried didn't work since they only work with tags (and I code pretty extensively in script). Someone else however might try it and find they can use these features extensively and thus the product would absolutely be worth the price. Just because the price is too much for me and how I code doesn't mean it isn't totally worth it for someone else, or that the next version won't be worth every penny to even more of us. Complaining about the price isn't likely to make Adobe change it, so if you don't like it, vote with your pocket book. But I don't think it's a decision someone else can make for you...you have to take the time to *really* evaluate the product and whether it truly helps with your productivity. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341542 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: URL variable security
Anything and everything received from external, untrusted sources must be considered suspect. I'd add that even if you might not have to worry about a security breach, you still probably want to scrub such variables to prevent errors from being generated (if for instance you expect it to be a numeric value) as anything on the URL (if forward-facing) is going to get a constant barrage of garbage against it that can load your logs up with errors if you aren't handling them. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341136 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: index.cfm being hacked (now application.cfm)
(changed the ftp password for the umpteenth time today as well). Hhm, if they are getting in via FTP, which is certainly a strong possibility as well, you might want to try turning it off for that site, or at least restricting it to only the IP addresses that use it. I have seen numerous attacks over unsecured FTP accounts, so only use SFTP and restricted by IP these days and it's definitely helped greatly reduce such issues. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339970 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: A search with special characters in Solr
You might have them tag like this ~word~, then parse for that when building your search. Not sure what you mean by parsing for it? When I use a word like this in my data (with tildes around it), and then search for it (including the tildes), I get no results back from Solr. It does match on just word with no tildes, but that's not what I'm looking for, they don't want to return every instance of just the word, but some way to mark it as a unique version of that word to find. I'm thinking maybe I can take the special characters and convert them to a text string of some kind? It'd be kind of awkward, but not sure how else to do it. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338984 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: A search with special characters in Solr
I'm confused - why not just add a form field to their content editor where they can enter the tags there? Unfortunately, we have no access to that system, I can only pull the data that has been entered into it. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338987 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: A search with special characters in Solr
Ok - so then if you use tildes like Muareen suggested, you can parse for them when you index the data. Do you have control over the code that does the indexing? Yes, I'm pulling all the data and then indexing it to make it available for my client to search, so they can find the specific records in the external system that have had these tags entered into them. So what would I do with the tildes to make Solr find them? Or ideally, my client wants to use asterisks (***HIGHLIGHT) they already sent an email out with the list of tags to their users before checking with me if that would be okay, so if I can make that work, they'd be really happy. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338998 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: A search with special characters in Solr
What I mean by parsing is that you use the tildes to determine what to search for by extracting what is between them and using that to build your search. That's not going to give me what I need, because I need to find *only* the results that use the tildes, not the records that might just have the word by itself. Otherwise, they could just search on the plain word and not bother with special characters at all. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339018 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: A search with special characters in Solr
Right, so parse the text for the ~ words. You can use rematch to get them easily enough. You can then use that list of words as your body when you add it to your index. Well, that would work I guess if they *only* wanted to search for those words, but they want to be able to search on any of the content text as well. So I needed someway to make them unique in the search body. What I decided to do was to just use a Regex to convert the asterisks to X's so that in the search index it becomes XXXHighlight or whatever codes they want to use. Then I do a similar replacement when running the search. That seems to be working. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339025 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Sanitize input data for SQL
cfset city = model(Cities).findOne(where=id=#id# AND some_other_param=#param#) If you know it should only accept a numeric value, you can just throw in a Val() function and that will ensure nothing but numbers get passed ( e.g. id=#Val(id)# ). If you need to allow strings, and can restrict to just alphanumeric, you can do something similar with a Regex or other custom function. It's not ideal, but it's certainly better than leaving it unsanitized! --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339028 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
A search with special characters in Solr
I have an unusual request from my client, they want to be able to have their people in the field put tags in their reports that they can search on, using some kind of special character to tag a word as being one of these special search phrases. They wanted to use asterisks to do this (such as ***HIGHLIGHT ) but obviously that won't work. I'm wondering if there's any other kind of character I could let them use that Solr would pick up as part of the work and index, but so far my tests have not resulted in much success. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338953 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
What is in the log file? CF needs a JDK, not a JRE. JDK?? Are you sure about that?? I'm not sure what it would do with the JDK. I'm basically trying to follow the instructions in this blog post to track memory leaks in the JVM: http://www.ghidinelli.com/2009/07/16/finding-memory-leaks-coldfusion-jvm I tried the Win 64-bit version of Mission Control JRocket for Java 6 but CF won't start when it's pointed to that. So I tried some of the others, same results. It looked like a pretty neat way to track memory leaks, if you can get it working. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337980 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
What is in the log file? CF needs a JDK, not a JRE. Oh, and I don't get anything in the log file(s) it doesn't get anywhere close to logging anything. MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337981 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
The JDK seems to be required because the stock JRE doesn't come with all the components need to run the services. There's a JRE inside the JDK, which is all you'll really need once you've extracted/installed it. I've found this to be the case with all of the SUN builds as well. Hhm, okay that makes sense, it does appear the downloads from the Oracle page do include a complete JDK, so I don't think that's the issue I am having. When I start CF from the command line the error just says No known VMs. Check for corrupt jvm.config. I am pointing java.home to the jre directory under the jrocket install, it just doesn't seem to like it. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337986 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
Yes, CF requires the JDK because it includes the server-specific version of jvm.dll. I don't remember enough about JRockit to know whether it has the same sort of JVM/JDK division. Ah okay, thanks for the info. This does appear to be part of the jrocket install that I have. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337987 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :) I'm not really seeing much in the way of choices to point to, but I did try both the top level directory as well as the JRE one (which is what seems to match what the CF runtime has). And yes, I do have the slashes going the right way (front slashes, but I did try backslashes too just on the off chance that was what it wanted). I'm thinking there's either something in the default JVM args that it doesn't like... or there is some other library that is missing or it doesn't like. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338004 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :) Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I *would* use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in case I'm missing something --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338006 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :) Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I *would* use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in case I'm missing something --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338007 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
I don't want to be contrary - but your error almost has to be related to not finding the jvm.dll right? If it were args wouldn't it be some other sort of error? Something more related to GC or whatever that would show up in the out log? Well, I'm just guessing, I really don't know enough about messing with the JVM to know, so you are probably right. Just kind of running out of ideas... What about... are you showing extensions in your folder options? That's why one of the first things to do on a new install is to go to folder options and show everything - extensions, paths, system files... everything. Yup, agreed, it's just about the first thing I do on a new computer. So nothing in that respect to help me. ;-) I'm off now for the weekend, so will probably just throw in the towel on it for the time being. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338028 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
That depends on whether you are running the 32-bit or 64-bit CF9. Oops, sorry yes I am indeed using the 64-bit CF9. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338029 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
Is anyone using the JRocket JRE (with Mission Control) on ColdFusion 9.01 (I'm on Win 7 64-bit, standalone)? I'm having trouble getting ColdFusion to start up when I point it to the JRocket JRE and not sure what the problem is. I'm leaving out the mission control config in the args just to make sure I just get it working with the JRE but not having much luck. I tried a few different versions, but still can't get the CF server to start with any of them. Any ideas? --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337940 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: What version-/source control are you using (if any)?
What I like about git is the ability to work offline and still commit changes, the lightweight branches and generally easier merging. I also like that you have a copy of the entire repository, if you use hosting it makes it very easy to change hosts. Currently though I am using the hosted Jira Studio (which is quite awesome if you are a small group, as the pricing is very reasonable for the quality of tools you get) and it only includes SVN hosting so that's what I use. It's generally pretty good although you really want to avoid having to reconcile multiple changes to a file as it's a real pain to do in my experience. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337680 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Struct for Applicaton Datasource setting
The CF documentation is a good place to start:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.
0/CFMLRef/WSd160b5fdf5100e8f790124b112a3b8b2adb-8000.html
this.datasource={name='cfartgallery', username=user,
password=passwd}
Believe me, I *looked* long and hard in the docs and never found that page. It
sure is well hidden, and none of the higher up pages on application settings
have been updated with this information. I actually *had* tried 'name for the
datasource name just as shown as well, and was still getting the error.
It turned out that the server had *not* been updated to 9.01 as we thought it
had...so duh! Always love when it's something obvious
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Re: ORM and many to many relationships
When you cfdump an ORM entitiy, it tries to show _everything_. You can control how many levels are displayed by using the top attribute. I agree that writedump really can be problematic when working with ORM objects...but I've not seen that the top attribute helps. According to the docs, it sets levels for structures...not objects. And that's been my experience as well, it doesn't do anything for ORM objects if you are trying to dump them without converting to something else first (some of my objects just crash the server if I try to dump them due to this). I think there's a feature request or two to this regard in the CF bug database. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337272 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Struct for Applicaton Datasource setting
I posted this over on the CF-ORM list on google, but not much luck, so thought
I'd see if any of you smart HOF folks know. ;-)
According to the CF 9.01 release notes, you can now use a structure
for setting the application.datasource setting. I really would like to
do this for an ORM application I'm doing, as we use a single Oracle
database for our servers, and each application has its own
schemaso typically we just have one db and each application
has a specific username/password to connect to its own schema. But there
doesn't seem to be any documentation or example anywhere on how to do this, and
I'm not having much luck trying to figure it out. I tried this:
this.datasource = {datasource = 'oracle_db', username='schema',
password='password' } ;
And all I got was an error from ColdFusion that it couldn't cast a
struct to a string. So clearly that's not the way to do it.
So any idea how to do this?
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CF9 Solr Search issue
I've run into a frustrating issue while trying to use Solr search in CF9. I'm not sure if the Verity has the same problem, but basically the problem is that I have 3 different queries I want to index into a single collection and if I purge the collection first, it is refusing to index all three. The records come from fairly difference sources, so not easy to combine, I'm using categories to mark the record type so my search interface allows the user to select the scope they want to search in. The code basically looks like this: cfindex collection=#variables.collection# action=purge Code to Retrieve the 3 different document types to index !--- add documents to collection --- cfindex collection=#variables.collection# action=update body=doc_text category=doc_type_code custom1=id key=key query=local.qryDocs1 / cfindex collection=#variables.collection# action=update body=doc_text category=doc_type_code custom1=id key=key query=local.qryDocs2 / cfindex collection=#variables.collection# action=update body=doc_text1,doc_text2,doc_text3 category=doc_type_code custom1=id key=key query=local.qryDocs3 / Depending on the order that I run the cfindex tags, I only get one or two of the queries being indexed, never all three. If however, I *don't* run a purge first, they always get indexed properly. The keys in each of these queries is unique from all the others, so I know that's not the problem. It's not a major problem that I don't run a purge, since these records pretty much never change (at least in terms of being removedI generally only have new ones, or changes to existing ones) but just not thrilled at having to leave it out, when it *should* work with it in there. Any ideas? Anyone seen anything similar? --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336972 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Shopping carts
Saying that the USD 200,- that Mary Jo asks for her CFWebstore is too much seems like an oddity to me. If the customer cannot pay USD 200,- for the licence, how on earth is the customer able to pay for the consultant/developer fees for installing and modifying the webshop if needed? Well, actually the price for a new first-time store is $400. And yes, that's a fair amount more than any of the various PHP carts, but even that price is barely enough for me to support future development with it. There's a reason there are so few CF carts out therethe amount of work needed to build and maintain even a reasonably good cart is pretty significant, and there just isn't a big enough market for CF apps to easily bring in the sales needed to support the work required. There's a lot of pitfalls to using open source software for ecommerce (and yes, I may be biased, but I also speak from lots of experience in this field). Anyone that has spent anytime with OSCommerce knows how convoluted the code has become from years of many people messing with it. And yes, there are tons of addons you can get for just about any payment gateway, shipper, etc. you might want to use, but what happens when they change their API and your client's store stops working? I can't tell you how many times I've had to redo code because of API changes, or how many times I've had to go onto a site to debug a particular server issue that they might be having that's causing things to break. I've got a pretty long to-do list at the moment of things that have to be updated, changed or added in the next several months to keep sites running properly. Most of my customers will agree...they are paying just as much for the support they get as for the code itself. Knowing that if something goes wrong or stops working, they have someone to go to that will get it working for them again. With something as mission critical as most ecommerce sites are, that's usually worth a few bucks to get, versus saving some up-front with OSS and then being on your own should any problems arise. I do agree that the fact that my code is still procedural though is a bit of an issue. Not that it's *bad* code, just not OO, and I've always felt one advantage it had was that I get a lot of web designers that really know very little CF but can do minor changes to the application since it's fairly easy to learn as is. But I definitely have seen more in the last year or so the need for a more enterprise-level solution that provides APIs and proper MVC architecture, that can easily plug into other apps and work directly with them, etc. There's a ton of stuff I have in the works right now but an almost complete rewrite of the code is a hard thing to fit in there in terms of time and money needed to do itparticularly since the only way to get it done in a reasonable amount of time while freezing other development is probably to hire some good developers to do a sizable chunk of the work.. The amount of time involved in refactoring an application of this size and complexity is definitely not trivial. But I'm looking into some possibilities and hopefully can continue to move this forward. I'm certainly open though to ideas for how we might get it done (and done well) without it costing tens of thousands of dollars! One thing I have considered doing in the past and if we are able to update the architecture I might consider doing is having a free version that just includes the most basic functions needed for a shopping cart...and then the commercial version that would require purchase for the full suite of features. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334871 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?
With the limitations on budget in today's economic, few companies can afford money for both. I'd much rather the money be spent on development. Frankly, if I get another overpriced glossy marketing packet from Abode when they are cutting staff in product development, I'm gonna barf. As someone that is in software development and sales myself I can say that you won't HAVE any money for development UNLESS you have sales. So you absolutely need to be putting resources into both. Sure, as a developer in CF I'd prefer that the bulk of resources go to development but that's just not reasonable to expect that all of it would. If in a bad economy that means cutting back some on development, that's understandable. If Adobe feels rebranding will help increase exposure and/or interest in the product, then it certainly should be looked at. I'm dubious that it would make much difference and can't imagine after all these years having to refer to it as anything but ColdFusion but if it might help uptake among certain markets, I can live with that. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334816 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. ASP.Net
Again, I must make the argument why CF and not ASP.NET. Brand New - In Defense of CF: http://www.terrenceryan.com/blog/post.cfm/dear-coldfusion-skeptic --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334688 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF CAPTCHA?
Before I go writing my own CAPTCHA generating method I just want to check to see if CF has something to offer along those lines. Frankly, I'd dump the user-unfriendly captcha and use cfformprotect http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334209 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for Suggestion: e-Commerce/CMS Integration
FWIW, I would be interested in running a store inside of Mura. Will it be like a Mura Plug in or just play nicely. For now, I'm just working on getting it to play nicely...it doesn't really use anything right now that the plugin architecture would provide. That would also be fairly Mura-specific whereas I would like the integration to work in other CMS products as well. So a plugin would need to be something developed separately in the future, which I'll certainly look at but right now it works pretty well just including the app into a Mura page. We've just got a couple issues still to sort out (like getting SES links to work properly). If you're interested in following the progress, and/or helping test it out, feel free to contact me off-list. --- Mary Jo Sminkey mar...@dogpatchsw.com CFWebstore, ColdFusion Ecommerce http://www.cfwebstore.com ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332835 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for Suggestion: e-Commerce/CMS Integration
I briefly examined CFWebStore, but my investigation did not find any type of API that would facilitate integration. This is true, it doesn't really provide any API or web services to hook into currently. However, we have been working over the last month to modify the code extensively to allow it to run inside another application with minimal effort, and will hopefully be moving into testing fairly soon. I've specifically been working with Mura as the testing platform, but the changes should typically allow you to run it in a variety of other CMS products as well. --- Mary Jo Sminkey mar...@dogpatchsw.com CFWebstore, ColdFusion Ecommerce http://www.cfwebstore.com ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332819 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for Suggestion: e-Commerce/CMS Integration
FWIW, I would be interested in running a store inside of Mura. Will it be like a Mura Plug in or just play nicely. For now, I'm just working on getting it to play nicely...it doesn't really use anything right now that the plugin architecture would provide. That would also be fairly Mura-specific whereas I would like the integration to work in other CMS products as well. So a plugin would need to be something developed separately in the future but right now it works pretty well just including the app into a Mura page. We've just got a couple issues still to sort out (like getting SES links to work properly). If you're interested in following the progress, and/or helping test it out, feel free to contact me off-list. --- Mary Jo Sminkey mar...@dogpatchsw.com CFWebstore, ColdFusion Ecommerce http://www.cfwebstore.com ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332828 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Lets be fair Rick, ColdFusion Builder can and will be installed as a stand alone product in a very large number of cases. Truebut I wonder if that will continue to be an issue when installing updates, as it was with the betas. Normal Eclipse plugins update much more elegantly than CFB did, and what I've heard is this will continue to be the case. I don't know if it's true, but it definitely is something I would consider when moving to it off the normal Eclipse environment. Those of us that code CFML all day everyday need a full featured product that works and is fast. ColdFusion Builder has that potential. Potential yes, but it's not there yet, at least for me. I'd agree that things like better code folding, proper word-wrapping, better CFC introspection and other such features are things that *would* make it worth the price. It's certainly got some things that are very beneficial, the syntax checker I found to be excellent overall, and certainly if you are using some of the CF9 stuff like ORM, that would be a big plus. But then I look at some of the unresolved issues like the scrolling bug that just drives me nuts and easily kill my productivity when I run across it on a regular basis. I had lots of issues with the tag insight and tag help as well, that often inserted when I didn't want it to, and yet didn't come up when I needed. It's two steps back for me for every thing it helps with. I think the best approach they could have taken would have been what they did with Lightroom when that came out and offered it to all the initial buyers at $100 off (knowing that we were essentially still going to be beta testing it for them, and also being up-front from the start that it was an introductory price only good for a certain amount of time). That would have been a big way to support all the existing developers and getting them on board with the product, without committing themselves to a lower price going forward. Release a good enough 2.0 version and most users will pay to upgrade anyway. Having said that, I really am thrilled to hear that they are giving it for free for educational use. That certainly is a big step in the right direction and that along with educational use of the server really shows that they are starting to see that bringing in more developers is really critical for the future of ColdFusion. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332124 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
Is the ColdFusion Server actually going to be free to education systems? I had not heard that. Yes, CF 9 is free for educational use, but good luck finding information on their website about it, it's pretty well hidden! I think you have to go into the product FAQs to even find mention of it, other than a phone number for educational licenses. It's a full fledged license, not the normal developer license that has IP restrictions, but of course is restricted solely to educational and not production use. The typical requirements for validating such as a student or faculty ID are required to obtain the license key. I do hope they are actually marketing it to colleges and such as it definitely is not well known information at all. So yeah, if you have any association with schools or colleges, be sure to let them know that CF is now free for them to use in labs and such. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332135 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
