Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-19 Thread Rick Root

I've recently made the switch from Homesite 5.5 to Sublime Text 2.  I've
tried Coldfusion Builder a few times but I just can't stand it.I
recently got a new computer at home and at work, and I'm refusing to put
Homesite on it.

Sublime Text 2 with the Coldfusion plugin and the Enhanced CFML and HTML
plugin as well (which adds syntax highlighting for html, javascript, sql,
etc).

I'm still getting used to it, but I'm finding it to be pretty tolerable.

I even forked out the $70 licence fee for my home computer.  It has an
unlimited trial period but will hound you every 10-20 file saves.

Rick


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RE: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-19 Thread UXB

 I'm usint CF Studio (identical to Homesite) and it runs 
 perfectly under Windows 7 64bits.

Thank you! I am not alone :)

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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread .jonah

Sounds like you need Linux!


On 3/17/13 8:41 PM, Dave Long wrote:
 I want to own the machine, not have the machine own me.


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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Cameron Childress

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:

 Cameron, thanks anyway. I want to own the machine, not have the machine
 own me.


Yeah, I'm not one to sell you on Mac, just interesting that no-one brought
it up.

-Cameron

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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Roger Austin

On 3/18/2013 2:02 AM, .jonah wrote:

 Sounds like you need Linux!


 On 3/17/13 8:41 PM, Dave Long wrote:
 I want to own the machine, not have the machine own me.

One thing you could do is to upgrade to more modern machine,
swap in a SSD, and install Linux and your development
environment. That way, you can always pop in the original
HD if you weren't happy with the setup.

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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Bruce Sorge

I don't understand the statement of a Mac owning me. I was a windows user since 
it first came out and a DOS user before then. In switched to a Mac about a year 
ago and I love it. I have CF10 running with apache, MySQL and php all working 
great. Using Adobe creative cloud for dev and I have no complaints. Once you 
get used to working in the terminal macs are easy to use and my machine in no 
way owns me. Just saying. And for the occasional instance where I HAVE to use 
windows, I have windows 8 running with bootcamp. No complaints and Windows 8 
screams on the Mac. Having 8 gigs of RAM helps too. 

Bruce

Sent from my iPhone 4S. 

On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:
 
 Cameron, thanks anyway. I want to own the machine, not have the machine
 own me.
 
 
 Yeah, I'm not one to sell you on Mac, just interesting that no-one brought
 it up.
 
 -Cameron
 
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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Mark Drew

+ 1 for this. 

There are very few things I even need my Windows VM for (at the moment, I use 
it for testing installersÂ… ) . Not sure how a mac would own you, I would guess 
in the same way a windows machine would too?

You don't need to know the terminal but it is damn awesome once you start using 
it a lot more. 

Back to the original question, I would say use Sublime Text 2 and first thing 
to do is install package manager.  Also, here are a few videos that might help 
you get started with Sublime:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ-bgcJ6fQo


Hope that helps! 

Mark Drew

On 18 Mar 2013, at 13:04, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I don't understand the statement of a Mac owning me. I was a windows user 
 since it first came out and a DOS user before then. In switched to a Mac 
 about a year ago and I love it. I have CF10 running with apache, MySQL and 
 php all working great. Using Adobe creative cloud for dev and I have no 
 complaints. Once you get used to working in the terminal macs are easy to use 
 and my machine in no way owns me. Just saying. And for the occasional 
 instance where I HAVE to use windows, I have windows 8 running with bootcamp. 
 No complaints and Windows 8 screams on the Mac. Having 8 gigs of RAM helps 
 too. 
 
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RE: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Dave Long

Winston Churchill: A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't
change the subject.

Get back to work please. ;-)

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Mark Drew [mailto:mark.d...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:10 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner



+ 1 for this.

There are very few things I even need my Windows VM for (at the moment, I
use it for testing installers. ) . Not sure how a mac would own you, I would
guess in the same way a windows machine would too?

You don't need to know the terminal but it is damn awesome once you start
using it a lot more. 

Back to the original question, I would say use Sublime Text 2 and first
thing to do is install package manager.  Also, here are a few videos that
might help you get started with Sublime:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ-bgcJ6fQo


Hope that helps! 

Mark Drew

On 18 Mar 2013, at 13:04, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I don't understand the statement of a Mac owning me. I was a windows 
 user since it first came out and a DOS user before then. In switched to a
Mac about a year ago and I love it. I have CF10 running with apache, MySQL
and php all working great. Using Adobe creative cloud for dev and I have no
complaints. Once you get used to working in the terminal macs are easy to
use and my machine in no way owns me. Just saying. And for the occasional
instance where I HAVE to use windows, I have windows 8 running with
bootcamp. No complaints and Windows 8 screams on the Mac. Having 8 gigs of
RAM helps too.
 
 Bruce




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RE: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Rick Faircloth

I've switched to Sublime Text 2. It's been a fine editor.
I'd don't like CF assistance with writing code, however it does
support syntax highlighting. It's lightweight and I can keep
3, 4, or 5 editors open with various projects at one time with no problem.

I work primarily in HTML, CF, CSS3, and jQuery so I LOVE the fact
that it lets me have choices about layout of parts of the editor.
I use the Grid-4 layout all the time. It's nice to have HTML,
CF, jQuery, and CSS3 all on their own screen if I want to. I use
dual monitors, so they makes it particularly useful. And it's only
$70. You can use it for free, you just have to put up with the 
Please buy a license popups every 10 saves or so, but it's well
worth the $70 and has a LOT of people writing add-ons for it that
makes it easy to configure to work in a way that benefits your
workflow the most.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Dave Long [mailto:d...@northgoods.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:06 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Curmudgeon painted in a corner


I've been using Homesite 5 on my Compaq laptop since a year or two before
Y2K was scary. Now the old hoss is reluctant to boot (takes about 30 minutes
or more) so I'm kind of forced to get a new machine. Problem: new ones all
come with Windows 8 so it looks like I'll be buying (unless I can find
freebies) some new development tools. 
 
My server host is moving to Railo to avoid doubling my fees, so what do you
folks recommend for CF development environment?
 
Dave




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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Cameron Childress

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:

 Winston Churchill: A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't
 change the subject.


Well, since the subject of this message was CF code editors, who's changed
the subject and who hasn't? :)

-Cameron

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RE: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Rick Faircloth

Overkill, unless you need the ton of features that are
built-in. I tried it. It's fine for Matt, I'm sure, but
is overkill for me. And it's $199, minimum.


-Original Message-
From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:10 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner


Intellij IDEA. http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/



On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:


 I've been using Homesite 5 on my Compaq laptop since a year or two before
 Y2K was scary. Now the old hoss is reluctant to boot (takes about 30
 minutes
 or more) so I'm kind of forced to get a new machine. Problem: new ones all
 come with Windows 8 so it looks like I'll be buying (unless I can find
 freebies) some new development tools.

 My server host is moving to Railo to avoid doubling my fees, so what do you
 folks recommend for CF development environment?

 Dave


 



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RE: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Rick Faircloth

+1


-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:29 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner


On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:

 I've been using Homesite 5 on my Compaq laptop since
 [...]
 what do you folks recommend for CF development environment?


Coming from Homesite, you are likely to enjoy Sublime Text 2.

Instal Package Control and then install the ColdFusion package. Decent
syntax highlighting and a lot fo goot packages to choose from. It's also
very lightweight compared to memory beasts built on top of Eclipse like
CFBuilder.

-Cameron

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RE: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Rick Faircloth

Ignore the first 4 below and just skip to Sublime Text 2...

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:40 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner


Dreamweaver
CFBuilder
CFEclipse
NotePad++ (there is a CFML plugin)
Sublime Text 2



On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:


 I've been using Homesite 5 on my Compaq laptop since a year or two before
 Y2K was scary. Now the old hoss is reluctant to boot (takes about 30
 minutes
 or more) so I'm kind of forced to get a new machine. Problem: new ones all
 come with Windows 8 so it looks like I'll be buying (unless I can find
 freebies) some new development tools.

 My server host is moving to Railo to avoid doubling my fees, so what do you
 folks recommend for CF development environment?

 Dave


 



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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Maureen

Likely referring to the cost of purchase.  Macs are pricy little buggers.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't understand the statement of a Mac owning me.

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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-18 Thread Bruce Sorge

Yeah, to be honest I would not have one had it not been for a client who 
offered to buy me ANY computer I wanted in exchange for doing a small site for 
his non-profit. So I went with a MacBook Pro 17 dual quad core processors and 
8gb of ram. 

Sent from my iPhone 4S. 

On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Likely referring to the cost of purchase.  Macs are pricy little buggers.
 
 On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't understand the statement of a Mac owning me.
 
 

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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-17 Thread Matt Quackenbush

Intellij IDEA. http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/



On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:


 I've been using Homesite 5 on my Compaq laptop since a year or two before
 Y2K was scary. Now the old hoss is reluctant to boot (takes about 30
 minutes
 or more) so I'm kind of forced to get a new machine. Problem: new ones all
 come with Windows 8 so it looks like I'll be buying (unless I can find
 freebies) some new development tools.

 My server host is moving to Railo to avoid doubling my fees, so what do you
 folks recommend for CF development environment?

 Dave


 

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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-17 Thread Cameron Childress

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:

 I've been using Homesite 5 on my Compaq laptop since
 [...]
 what do you folks recommend for CF development environment?


Coming from Homesite, you are likely to enjoy Sublime Text 2.

Instal Package Control and then install the ColdFusion package. Decent
syntax highlighting and a lot fo goot packages to choose from. It's also
very lightweight compared to memory beasts built on top of Eclipse like
CFBuilder.

-Cameron

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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-17 Thread Gerald Guido

Here is a recent thread on the Railo group concerning IDEs

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/railo/J0EdVySoPNw

HTH
G!

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.comwrote:


 Intellij IDEA. http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/



 On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:

 
  I've been using Homesite 5 on my Compaq laptop since a year or two before
  Y2K was scary. Now the old hoss is reluctant to boot (takes about 30
  minutes
  or more) so I'm kind of forced to get a new machine. Problem: new ones
 all
  come with Windows 8 so it looks like I'll be buying (unless I can find
  freebies) some new development tools.
 
  My server host is moving to Railo to avoid doubling my fees, so what do
 you
  folks recommend for CF development environment?
 
  Dave
 
 
 

 

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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-17 Thread Russ Michaels

Dreamweaver
CFBuilder
CFEclipse
NotePad++ (there is a CFML plugin)
Sublime Text 2



On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:


 I've been using Homesite 5 on my Compaq laptop since a year or two before
 Y2K was scary. Now the old hoss is reluctant to boot (takes about 30
 minutes
 or more) so I'm kind of forced to get a new machine. Problem: new ones all
 come with Windows 8 so it looks like I'll be buying (unless I can find
 freebies) some new development tools.

 My server host is moving to Railo to avoid doubling my fees, so what do you
 folks recommend for CF development environment?

 Dave


 

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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-17 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 Problem: new ones all
come with Windows 8 so it looks like I'll be buying (unless I can find
freebies) some new development tools.

I'm usint CF Studio (identical to Homesite) and it runs perfectly under Windows 
7 64bits.
Just make sure it runs in compatibility Windows XP mode.


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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-17 Thread Raymond Camden

CF Builder 2
or
Sublime Text 2 (with the CF plugin)


On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 5:56 PM,  wrote:


  Problem: new ones all
 come with Windows 8 so it looks like I'll be buying (unless I can find
 freebies) some new development tools.

 I'm usint CF Studio (identical to Homesite) and it runs perfectly under
 Windows 7 64bits.
 Just make sure it runs in compatibility Windows XP mode.


 

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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-17 Thread Justin Scott

 ... Problem: new ones all come with Windows 8 so it looks
 like I'll be buying (unless I can find freebies) some new
 development tools.

If you poke around on eBay you can find new surplus and business
systems that come with Windows 7 Pro.  I bought a brand new Dell
Vostro 270s for my parents, one for a friend of theirs, and one for
myself as new home computers last month for $529 each
(http://www.ebay.com/sch/trepachka/m.html is the seller's page, he
still has one up right now).

I've switched to using CF Builder as my primary development tool for
working on sites locally, but for some older remote sites I still use
Homesite+ in Windows XP mode without any trouble.


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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-17 Thread Cameron Childress

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:

 Problem: new ones all come with Windows 8


I have to say I am disappointed that no-one has yet said, with a sh*t
eating grin on their face:

New Macs do not come with Win 8

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RE: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-17 Thread Dave Long

Thanks everyone,

I checked out Sublime Text 2 and even watched a couple sessions of the
tutorials offered. I'm sold. One neat thing... They say you can install it
on more than one computer with only one license. Now that's pretty civilized
of them.

Cameron, thanks anyway. I want to own the machine, not have the machine own
me.

Thanks again.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:30 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner



On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:

 Problem: new ones all come with Windows 8


I have to say I am disappointed that no-one has yet said, with a sh*t eating
grin on their face:

New Macs do not come with Win 8

-Cameron

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Re: Curmudgeon painted in a corner

2013-03-17 Thread Gerald Guido

Cameron, thanks anyway. I want to own the machine, not have the machine
own
me.

Well played sir. Bravo!

G!


On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote:

 Cameron, thanks anyway. I want to own the machine, not have the machine own
 me.





-- 
Gerald Guido
http://www.myinternetisbroken.com


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