Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Andrew Scott]

Adobe in my opinion have no clue about the product, serious bugs can take
them years to even fix and even if they do, there is no guarantee that they
will be released for current supported versions. Most times, they get
released with the next version only.

I raised a concurrency issue with ColdFusion 10, that is really a serious
issue with the Application scope and it took Adobe 3-4 years to actually
fix it. Nobody can wait that length of time while trying to get work done.

​Most places still using ColdFusion are 3 or more versions behind the
current version, which is obviously a cost factor in upgrading.

I mean Windows 10 has been stable for a very long time, Adobe had the
chance to make sure they released connectors that would work on Windows 10
and yet, to this date I haven't seen any updates for it. They only have
themselves to blame.​


Regards,
Andrew Scott


On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Samaris  wrote:

> Thanks
>
> Claude Raiola
> SAMARIS Software
> www.SAMARIS.net
> 1300 255 990
>
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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Samaris]

It's all sad news especially for programmers like myself who I my have cf 
coding skills seeking work 

Claude Raiola
SAMARIS Software
www.SAMARIS.net
1300 255 990

> On 8 Sep 2015, at 6:36 pm, Andrew Scott  wrote:
> 
> Adobe in my opinion have no clue about the product, serious bugs can take 
> them years to even fix and even if they do, there is no guarantee that they 
> will be released for current supported versions. Most times, they get 
> released with the next version only.
> 
> I raised a concurrency issue with ColdFusion 10, that is really a serious 
> issue with the Application scope and it took Adobe 3-4 years to actually fix 
> it. Nobody can wait that length of time while trying to get work done.
> 
> ​Most places still using ColdFusion are 3 or more versions behind the current 
> version, which is obviously a cost factor in upgrading.
> 
> I mean Windows 10 has been stable for a very long time, Adobe had the chance 
> to make sure they released connectors that would work on Windows 10 and yet, 
> to this date I haven't seen any updates for it. They only have themselves to 
> blame.​
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Samaris  wrote:
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Claude Raiola
>> SAMARIS Software
>> www.SAMARIS.net
>> 1300 255 990
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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Samaris]

Thanks 

Claude Raiola
SAMARIS Software
www.SAMARIS.net
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> On 8 Sep 2015, at 6:11 pm, Dale Fraser  wrote:
> 
> Largely because its not Free, and as such people over many years didn’t use 
> it because of the cost.
>  
> All the main stream competitors are 100% free
>  
> PHP
> Ruby
> ASP
> Java
> Node
>  
> The list goes on. Railo & Lucee came too late to the party to make a big 
> difference.
>  
> I don’t think the tag based nature of writing code for so many years appealed 
> to hard core devs also, fixed now but too late.
>  
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>  
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Samaris
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2015 5:47 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion
>  
> It's a shame 
>  
> Why do you think it's no longer popular it to me at least was the easiest 
> platform learn with plenty of functionally 
> 
> Claude Raiola
> SAMARIS Software
> www.SAMARIS.net
> 1300 255 990
> 
> On 8 Sep 2015, at 5:34 pm, Dale Fraser  wrote:
> 
> It’s not popular and is not widely used.
>  
> With that said there are a still companies using it, but I don’t think many 
> adopting it.
>  
> Most of the big CF dev shops I know of have moved on or are moving onto other 
> technologies.
>  
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>  
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of rai...@ozemail.com.au
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2015 12:19 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion
>  
> Hi Just wondering how popular CF is across business and if there are still 
> any large companies using CF as opposed to other solutions ???
>  
> I am looking for Remote CF work and it would be handy to have an 
> understanding of the current CF level of use
>  
> Any thoughts / suggestions or knowledge of anyone needing some Remote CF 
> development / maintenance work please do let me know
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RE: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Dale Fraser]

Largely because its not Free, and as such people over many years didn’t use it 
because of the cost.

 

All the main stream competitors are 100% free

 

PHP

Ruby

ASP

Java

Node

 

The list goes on. Railo & Lucee came too late to the party to make a big 
difference.

 

I don’t think the tag based nature of writing code for so many years appealed 
to hard core devs also, fixed now but too late.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Samaris
Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2015 5:47 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

 

It's a shame 

 

Why do you think it's no longer popular it to me at least was the easiest 
platform learn with plenty of functionally 

Claude Raiola

SAMARIS Software

www.SAMARIS.net  

1300 255 990


On 8 Sep 2015, at 5:34 pm, Dale Fraser  > wrote:

It’s not popular and is not widely used.

 

With that said there are a still companies using it, but I don’t think many 
adopting it.

 

Most of the big CF dev shops I know of have moved on or are moving onto other 
technologies.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

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To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com  
Subject: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

 

Hi Just wondering how popular CF is across business and if there are still any 
large companies using CF as opposed to other solutions ???

 

I am looking for Remote CF work and it would be handy to have an understanding 
of the current CF level of use 

 

Any thoughts / suggestions or knowledge of anyone needing some Remote CF 
development / maintenance work please do let me know

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RE: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Dale Fraser]

It’s not popular and is not widely used.

 

With that said there are a still companies using it, but I don’t think many 
adopting it.

 

Most of the big CF dev shops I know of have moved on or are moving onto other 
technologies.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

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rai...@ozemail.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2015 12:19 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

 

Hi Just wondering how popular CF is across business and if there are still any 
large companies using CF as opposed to other solutions ???

 

I am looking for Remote CF work and it would be handy to have an understanding 
of the current CF level of use 

 

Any thoughts / suggestions or knowledge of anyone needing some Remote CF 
development / maintenance work please do let me know

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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Samaris]

It's a shame 

Why do you think it's no longer popular it to me at least was the easiest 
platform learn with plenty of functionally 

Claude Raiola
SAMARIS Software
www.SAMARIS.net
1300 255 990

> On 8 Sep 2015, at 5:34 pm, Dale Fraser  wrote:
> 
> It’s not popular and is not widely used.
>  
> With that said there are a still companies using it, but I don’t think many 
> adopting it.
>  
> Most of the big CF dev shops I know of have moved on or are moving onto other 
> technologies.
>  
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>  
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of rai...@ozemail.com.au
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2015 12:19 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion
>  
> Hi Just wondering how popular CF is across business and if there are still 
> any large companies using CF as opposed to other solutions ???
>  
> I am looking for Remote CF work and it would be handy to have an 
> understanding of the current CF level of use
>  
> Any thoughts / suggestions or knowledge of anyone needing some Remote CF 
> development / maintenance work please do let me know
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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Christophe Albrech]

For sure man. People have been defending cf for years saying that nope, it
is not going anywhere, but now even the most prolific bloggers in the cf
community have all but jumped ship (not a stab at them, by the way). There
will be a CF12, maybe a CF13, but I'd say that's about it. There are still
jobs out there, though. Porting a big-enough app to a different language is
neither easy nor cheap, and some company can't be bothered or don't have
the forethought to do it in the first place. We're becoming the new cobol
developers, guys. Yay.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Samaris  wrote:

> It's all sad news especially for programmers like myself who I my have cf
> coding skills seeking work
>
> Claude Raiola
> SAMARIS Software
> www.SAMARIS.net
> 1300 255 990
>
> On 8 Sep 2015, at 6:36 pm, Andrew Scott  wrote:
>
> Adobe in my opinion have no clue about the product, serious bugs can take
> them years to even fix and even if they do, there is no guarantee that they
> will be released for current supported versions. Most times, they get
> released with the next version only.
>
> I raised a concurrency issue with ColdFusion 10, that is really a serious
> issue with the Application scope and it took Adobe 3-4 years to actually
> fix it. Nobody can wait that length of time while trying to get work done.
>
> ​Most places still using ColdFusion are 3 or more versions behind the
> current version, which is obviously a cost factor in upgrading.
>
> I mean Windows 10 has been stable for a very long time, Adobe had the
> chance to make sure they released connectors that would work on Windows 10
> and yet, to this date I haven't seen any updates for it. They only have
> themselves to blame.​
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Samaris  wrote:
>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Claude Raiola
>> SAMARIS Software
>> www.SAMARIS.net
>> 1300 255 990
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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Samaris]

Hi

Thanks for your reply

Can you clarify your very last comment re becoming the new cobol developer guys 
???

I am working part time in a company who's main system is written in cobol would 
love to work on the system to improve it however I have no cobol experience and 
they would only seek experienced cobol developers g

I have good cd skills and have solo built system from the ground up that 
processes over 1.5mill in payments per month. But finding work where I can 
automate existing manual processes for companies by building admin apps for 
them is like finding a needle in a hay stack. My site is www.Samaris.net

Claude Raiola
SAMARIS Software
www.SAMARIS.net
1300 255 990

> On 9 Sep 2015, at 8:25 am, Christophe Albrech  
> wrote:
> 
> For sure man. People have been defending cf for years saying that nope, it is 
> not going anywhere, but now even the most prolific bloggers in the cf 
> community have all but jumped ship (not a stab at them, by the way). There 
> will be a CF12, maybe a CF13, but I'd say that's about it. There are still 
> jobs out there, though. Porting a big-enough app to a different language is 
> neither easy nor cheap, and some company can't be bothered or don't have the 
> forethought to do it in the first place. We're becoming the new cobol 
> developers, guys. Yay.
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Samaris  wrote:
>> It's all sad news especially for programmers like myself who I my have cf 
>> coding skills seeking work 
>> 
>> Claude Raiola
>> SAMARIS Software
>> www.SAMARIS.net
>> 1300 255 990
>> 
>>> On 8 Sep 2015, at 6:36 pm, Andrew Scott  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Adobe in my opinion have no clue about the product, serious bugs can take 
>>> them years to even fix and even if they do, there is no guarantee that they 
>>> will be released for current supported versions. Most times, they get 
>>> released with the next version only.
>>> 
>>> I raised a concurrency issue with ColdFusion 10, that is really a serious 
>>> issue with the Application scope and it took Adobe 3-4 years to actually 
>>> fix it. Nobody can wait that length of time while trying to get work done.
>>> 
>>> ​Most places still using ColdFusion are 3 or more versions behind the 
>>> current version, which is obviously a cost factor in upgrading.
>>> 
>>> I mean Windows 10 has been stable for a very long time, Adobe had the 
>>> chance to make sure they released connectors that would work on Windows 10 
>>> and yet, to this date I haven't seen any updates for it. They only have 
>>> themselves to blame.​
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrew Scott
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Samaris  wrote:
 Thanks 
 
 Claude Raiola
 SAMARIS Software
 www.SAMARIS.net
 1300 255 990
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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Samaris]

lol

If only I could find one of those cf remote gigs I would be set 

Claude Raiola
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> On 9 Sep 2015, at 9:02 am, Paul Kukiel  wrote:
> 
> Basically there are so few COBOL guys that you have to pay them a fortune to 
> hire them.  Same thing is happening to cf
> 
>> On 9 Sep 2015 8:37 am, "Samaris"  wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Thanks for your reply
>> 
>> Can you clarify your very last comment re becoming the new cobol developer 
>> guys ???
>> 
>> I am working part time in a company who's main system is written in cobol 
>> would love to work on the system to improve it however I have no cobol 
>> experience and they would only seek experienced cobol developers g
>> 
>> I have good cd skills and have solo built system from the ground up that 
>> processes over 1.5mill in payments per month. But finding work where I can 
>> automate existing manual processes for companies by building admin apps for 
>> them is like finding a needle in a hay stack. My site is www.Samaris.net
>> 
>> Claude Raiola
>> SAMARIS Software
>> www.SAMARIS.net
>> 1300 255 990
>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2015, at 8:25 am, Christophe Albrech 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For sure man. People have been defending cf for years saying that nope, it 
>>> is not going anywhere, but now even the most prolific bloggers in the cf 
>>> community have all but jumped ship (not a stab at them, by the way). There 
>>> will be a CF12, maybe a CF13, but I'd say that's about it. There are still 
>>> jobs out there, though. Porting a big-enough app to a different language is 
>>> neither easy nor cheap, and some company can't be bothered or don't have 
>>> the forethought to do it in the first place. We're becoming the new cobol 
>>> developers, guys. Yay.
>>> 
 On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Samaris  wrote:
 It's all sad news especially for programmers like myself who I my have cf 
 coding skills seeking work 
 
 Claude Raiola
 SAMARIS Software
 www.SAMARIS.net
 1300 255 990
 
> On 8 Sep 2015, at 6:36 pm, Andrew Scott  wrote:
> 
> Adobe in my opinion have no clue about the product, serious bugs can take 
> them years to even fix and even if they do, there is no guarantee that 
> they will be released for current supported versions. Most times, they 
> get released with the next version only.
> 
> I raised a concurrency issue with ColdFusion 10, that is really a serious 
> issue with the Application scope and it took Adobe 3-4 years to actually 
> fix it. Nobody can wait that length of time while trying to get work done.
> 
> ​Most places still using ColdFusion are 3 or more versions behind the 
> current version, which is obviously a cost factor in upgrading.
> 
> I mean Windows 10 has been stable for a very long time, Adobe had the 
> chance to make sure they released connectors that would work on Windows 
> 10 and yet, to this date I haven't seen any updates for it. They only 
> have themselves to blame.​
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Samaris  wrote:
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Claude Raiola
>> SAMARIS Software
>> www.SAMARIS.net
>> 1300 255 990
> 
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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Paul Kukiel]

Basically there are so few COBOL guys that you have to pay them a fortune
to hire them.  Same thing is happening to cf
On 9 Sep 2015 8:37 am, "Samaris"  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Thanks for your reply
>
> Can you clarify your very last comment re becoming the new cobol developer
> guys ???
>
> I am working part time in a company who's main system is written in cobol
> would love to work on the system to improve it however I have no cobol
> experience and they would only seek experienced cobol developers g
>
> I have good cd skills and have solo built system from the ground up that
> processes over 1.5mill in payments per month. But finding work where I can
> automate existing manual processes for companies by building admin apps for
> them is like finding a needle in a hay stack. My site is www.Samaris.net
>
> Claude Raiola
> SAMARIS Software
> www.SAMARIS.net
> 1300 255 990
>
> On 9 Sep 2015, at 8:25 am, Christophe Albrech <
> christophe.albr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For sure man. People have been defending cf for years saying that nope, it
> is not going anywhere, but now even the most prolific bloggers in the cf
> community have all but jumped ship (not a stab at them, by the way). There
> will be a CF12, maybe a CF13, but I'd say that's about it. There are still
> jobs out there, though. Porting a big-enough app to a different language is
> neither easy nor cheap, and some company can't be bothered or don't have
> the forethought to do it in the first place. We're becoming the new cobol
> developers, guys. Yay.
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Samaris  wrote:
>
>> It's all sad news especially for programmers like myself who I my have cf
>> coding skills seeking work
>>
>> Claude Raiola
>> SAMARIS Software
>> www.SAMARIS.net
>> 1300 255 990
>>
>> On 8 Sep 2015, at 6:36 pm, Andrew Scott  wrote:
>>
>> Adobe in my opinion have no clue about the product, serious bugs can take
>> them years to even fix and even if they do, there is no guarantee that they
>> will be released for current supported versions. Most times, they get
>> released with the next version only.
>>
>> I raised a concurrency issue with ColdFusion 10, that is really a serious
>> issue with the Application scope and it took Adobe 3-4 years to actually
>> fix it. Nobody can wait that length of time while trying to get work done.
>>
>> ​Most places still using ColdFusion are 3 or more versions behind the
>> current version, which is obviously a cost factor in upgrading.
>>
>> I mean Windows 10 has been stable for a very long time, Adobe had the
>> chance to make sure they released connectors that would work on Windows 10
>> and yet, to this date I haven't seen any updates for it. They only have
>> themselves to blame.​
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrew Scott
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Samaris  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Claude Raiola
>>> SAMARIS Software
>>> www.SAMARIS.net
>>> 1300 255 990
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RE: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Dale Fraser]

There are lots of companies and sites using it still

 

You shouldn’t have trouble finding one, might just take a bit of time.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Kukiel
Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2015 9:03 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

 

Basically there are so few COBOL guys that you have to pay them a fortune to 
hire them.  Same thing is happening to cf

On 9 Sep 2015 8:37 am, "Samaris"  > wrote:

Hi

 

Thanks for your reply

 

Can you clarify your very last comment re becoming the new cobol developer guys 
???

 

I am working part time in a company who's main system is written in cobol would 
love to work on the system to improve it however I have no cobol experience and 
they would only seek experienced cobol developers g

 

I have good cd skills and have solo built system from the ground up that 
processes over 1.5mill in payments per month. But finding work where I can 
automate existing manual processes for companies by building admin apps for 
them is like finding a needle in a hay stack. My site is www.Samaris.net 
 


Claude Raiola

SAMARIS Software

www.SAMARIS.net  

1300 255 990


On 9 Sep 2015, at 8:25 am, Christophe Albrech  > wrote:

For sure man. People have been defending cf for years saying that nope, it is 
not going anywhere, but now even the most prolific bloggers in the cf community 
have all but jumped ship (not a stab at them, by the way). There will be a 
CF12, maybe a CF13, but I'd say that's about it. There are still jobs out 
there, though. Porting a big-enough app to a different language is neither easy 
nor cheap, and some company can't be bothered or don't have the forethought to 
do it in the first place. We're becoming the new cobol developers, guys. Yay.

 

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Samaris  > wrote:

It's all sad news especially for programmers like myself who I my have cf 
coding skills seeking work 

Claude Raiola

SAMARIS Software

www.SAMARIS.net  

1300 255 990


On 8 Sep 2015, at 6:36 pm, Andrew Scott  > wrote:

Adobe in my opinion have no clue about the product, serious bugs can take them 
years to even fix and even if they do, there is no guarantee that they will be 
released for current supported versions. Most times, they get released with the 
next version only.

 

I raised a concurrency issue with ColdFusion 10, that is really a serious issue 
with the Application scope and it took Adobe 3-4 years to actually fix it. 
Nobody can wait that length of time while trying to get work done.

 

​Most places still using ColdFusion are 3 or more versions behind the current 
version, which is obviously a cost factor in upgrading.

 

I mean Windows 10 has been stable for a very long time, Adobe had the chance to 
make sure they released connectors that would work on Windows 10 and yet, to 
this date I haven't seen any updates for it. They only have themselves to 
blame.​

 




Regards,

Andrew Scott

 

 

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Samaris  > wrote:

Thanks 

Claude Raiola

SAMARIS Software

www.SAMARIS.net  

1300 255 990  

 

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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Samaris]

Hi Dale 

Are you referring to cf or cobol

Claude Raiola
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www.SAMARIS.net
1300 255 990

> On 9 Sep 2015, at 9:16 am, Dale Fraser  wrote:
> 
> There are lots of companies and sites using it still
>  
> You shouldn’t have trouble finding one, might just take a bit of time.
>  
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>  
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Paul Kukiel
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2015 9:03 AM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion
>  
> Basically there are so few COBOL guys that you have to pay them a fortune to 
> hire them.  Same thing is happening to cf
> 
> On 9 Sep 2015 8:37 am, "Samaris"  wrote:
> Hi
>  
> Thanks for your reply
>  
> Can you clarify your very last comment re becoming the new cobol developer 
> guys ???
>  
> I am working part time in a company who's main system is written in cobol 
> would love to work on the system to improve it however I have no cobol 
> experience and they would only seek experienced cobol developers g
>  
> I have good cd skills and have solo built system from the ground up that 
> processes over 1.5mill in payments per month. But finding work where I can 
> automate existing manual processes for companies by building admin apps for 
> them is like finding a needle in a hay stack. My site is www.Samaris.net
> 
> Claude Raiola
> SAMARIS Software
> www.SAMARIS.net
> 1300 255 990
> 
> On 9 Sep 2015, at 8:25 am, Christophe Albrech  
> wrote:
> 
> For sure man. People have been defending cf for years saying that nope, it is 
> not going anywhere, but now even the most prolific bloggers in the cf 
> community have all but jumped ship (not a stab at them, by the way). There 
> will be a CF12, maybe a CF13, but I'd say that's about it. There are still 
> jobs out there, though. Porting a big-enough app to a different language is 
> neither easy nor cheap, and some company can't be bothered or don't have the 
> forethought to do it in the first place. We're becoming the new cobol 
> developers, guys. Yay.
>  
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Samaris  wrote:
> It's all sad news especially for programmers like myself who I my have cf 
> coding skills seeking work 
> 
> Claude Raiola
> SAMARIS Software
> www.SAMARIS.net
> 1300 255 990
> 
> On 8 Sep 2015, at 6:36 pm, Andrew Scott  wrote:
> 
> Adobe in my opinion have no clue about the product, serious bugs can take 
> them years to even fix and even if they do, there is no guarantee that they 
> will be released for current supported versions. Most times, they get 
> released with the next version only.
>  
> I raised a concurrency issue with ColdFusion 10, that is really a serious 
> issue with the Application scope and it took Adobe 3-4 years to actually fix 
> it. Nobody can wait that length of time while trying to get work done.
>  
> ​Most places still using ColdFusion are 3 or more versions behind the current 
> version, which is obviously a cost factor in upgrading.
>  
> I mean Windows 10 has been stable for a very long time, Adobe had the chance 
> to make sure they released connectors that would work on Windows 10 and yet, 
> to this date I haven't seen any updates for it. They only have themselves to 
> blame.​
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
>  
>  
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Samaris  wrote:
> Thanks 
> 
> Claude Raiola
> SAMARIS Software
> www.SAMARIS.net
> 1300 255 990
>  
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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[AJ Mercer]

Lucee is very active with their CFML engine with a total rebuild for
version 5.
The have just announce members of various committees (including Daemonites
).
They are also working on a new scripting language to stay current with
other JVM scripting languages

Well worth a look
http://lucee.org/about.html
http://lucee.org/blog.html

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On 8 September 2015 at 16:11, Dale Fraser  wrote:

> Largely because its not Free, and as such people over many years didn’t
> use it because of the cost.
>
>
>
> All the main stream competitors are 100% free
>
>
>
> PHP
>
> Ruby
>
> ASP
>
> Java
>
> Node
>
>
>
> The list goes on. Railo & Lucee came too late to the party to make a big
> difference.
>
>
>
> I don’t think the tag based nature of writing code for so many years
> appealed to hard core devs also, fixed now but too late.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Samaris
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 September 2015 5:47 PM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion
>
>
>
> It's a shame
>
>
>
> Why do you think it's no longer popular it to me at least was the easiest
> platform learn with plenty of functionally
>
> Claude Raiola
>
> SAMARIS Software
>
> www.SAMARIS.net
>
> 1300 255 990
>
>
> On 8 Sep 2015, at 5:34 pm, Dale Fraser  wrote:
>
> It’s not popular and is not widely used.
>
>
>
> With that said there are a still companies using it, but I don’t think
> many adopting it.
>
>
>
> Most of the big CF dev shops I know of have moved on or are moving onto
> other technologies.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *rai...@ozemail.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 September 2015 12:19 PM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion
>
>
>
> Hi Just wondering how popular CF is across business and if there are still
> any large companies using CF as opposed to other solutions ???
>
>
>
> I am looking for Remote CF work and it would be handy to have an
> understanding of the current CF level of use
>
>
>
> Any thoughts / suggestions or knowledge of anyone needing some Remote CF
> development / maintenance work please do let me know
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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Samaris]

My efforts to learn a new language I want to make sure it's a language that 
will be in demand for a while, so I am not wanting to spend time learning cobol 
for example of its a language that's fading out of use as cf is 

Claude Raiola
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1300 255 990

> On 9 Sep 2015, at 10:55 am, M@ Bourke  
> wrote:
> 
> Every CF developer (as well as any developer) should always be learning 
> another language, not only will it increase your career security it will 
> benefit your CF skills
> 
>> On 9 Sep 2015 6:27 am, "Samaris"  wrote:
>> Hi Dale 
>> 
>> Are you referring to cf or cobol
>> 
>> Claude Raiola
>> SAMARIS Software
>> www.SAMARIS.net
>> 1300 255 990
>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2015, at 9:16 am, Dale Fraser  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are lots of companies and sites using it still
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> You shouldn’t have trouble finding one, might just take a bit of time.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Dale Fraser
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Paul Kukiel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2015 9:03 AM
>>> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Basically there are so few COBOL guys that you have to pay them a fortune 
>>> to hire them.  Same thing is happening to cf
>>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2015 8:37 am, "Samaris"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your reply
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Can you clarify your very last comment re becoming the new cobol developer 
>>> guys ???
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I am working part time in a company who's main system is written in cobol 
>>> would love to work on the system to improve it however I have no cobol 
>>> experience and they would only seek experienced cobol developers g
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have good cd skills and have solo built system from the ground up that 
>>> processes over 1.5mill in payments per month. But finding work where I can 
>>> automate existing manual processes for companies by building admin apps for 
>>> them is like finding a needle in a hay stack. My site is www.Samaris.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Claude Raiola
>>> 
>>> SAMARIS Software
>>> 
>>> www.SAMARIS.net
>>> 
>>> 1300 255 990
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2015, at 8:25 am, Christophe Albrech 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For sure man. People have been defending cf for years saying that nope, it 
>>> is not going anywhere, but now even the most prolific bloggers in the cf 
>>> community have all but jumped ship (not a stab at them, by the way). There 
>>> will be a CF12, maybe a CF13, but I'd say that's about it. There are still 
>>> jobs out there, though. Porting a big-enough app to a different language is 
>>> neither easy nor cheap, and some company can't be bothered or don't have 
>>> the forethought to do it in the first place. We're becoming the new cobol 
>>> developers, guys. Yay.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Samaris  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's all sad news especially for programmers like myself who I my have cf 
>>> coding skills seeking work 
>>> 
>>> Claude Raiola
>>> 
>>> SAMARIS Software
>>> 
>>> www.SAMARIS.net
>>> 
>>> 1300 255 990
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8 Sep 2015, at 6:36 pm, Andrew Scott  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Adobe in my opinion have no clue about the product, serious bugs can take 
>>> them years to even fix and even if they do, there is no guarantee that they 
>>> will be released for current supported versions. Most times, they get 
>>> released with the next version only.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I raised a concurrency issue with ColdFusion 10, that is really a serious 
>>> issue with the Application scope and it took Adobe 3-4 years to actually 
>>> fix it. Nobody can wait that length of time while trying to get work done.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ​Most places still using ColdFusion are 3 or more versions behind the 
>>> current version, which is obviously a cost factor in upgrading.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I mean Windows 10 has been stable for a very long time, Adobe had the 
>>> chance to make sure they released connectors that would work on Windows 10 
>>> and yet, to this date I haven't seen any updates for it. They only have 
>>> themselves to blame.​
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Andrew Scott
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Samaris  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks 
>>> 
>>> Claude Raiola
>>> 
>>> SAMARIS Software
>>> 
>>> www.SAMARIS.net
>>> 
>>> 1300 255 990
>>> 
>>>  
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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[M@ Bourke]

Every CF developer (as well as any developer) should always be learning
another language, not only will it increase your career security it will
benefit your CF skills
On 9 Sep 2015 6:27 am, "Samaris"  wrote:

> Hi Dale
>
> Are you referring to cf or cobol
>
> Claude Raiola
> SAMARIS Software
> www.SAMARIS.net
> 1300 255 990
>
> On 9 Sep 2015, at 9:16 am, Dale Fraser  wrote:
>
> There are lots of companies and sites using it still
>
>
>
> You shouldn’t have trouble finding one, might just take a bit of time.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Paul Kukiel
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 September 2015 9:03 AM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion
>
>
>
> Basically there are so few COBOL guys that you have to pay them a fortune
> to hire them.  Same thing is happening to cf
>
> On 9 Sep 2015 8:37 am, "Samaris"  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Thanks for your reply
>
>
>
> Can you clarify your very last comment re becoming the new cobol developer
> guys ???
>
>
>
> I am working part time in a company who's main system is written in cobol
> would love to work on the system to improve it however I have no cobol
> experience and they would only seek experienced cobol developers g
>
>
>
> I have good cd skills and have solo built system from the ground up that
> processes over 1.5mill in payments per month. But finding work where I can
> automate existing manual processes for companies by building admin apps for
> them is like finding a needle in a hay stack. My site is www.Samaris.net
>
>
> Claude Raiola
>
> SAMARIS Software
>
> www.SAMARIS.net
>
> 1300 255 990
>
>
> On 9 Sep 2015, at 8:25 am, Christophe Albrech <
> christophe.albr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For sure man. People have been defending cf for years saying that nope, it
> is not going anywhere, but now even the most prolific bloggers in the cf
> community have all but jumped ship (not a stab at them, by the way). There
> will be a CF12, maybe a CF13, but I'd say that's about it. There are still
> jobs out there, though. Porting a big-enough app to a different language is
> neither easy nor cheap, and some company can't be bothered or don't have
> the forethought to do it in the first place. We're becoming the new cobol
> developers, guys. Yay.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Samaris  wrote:
>
> It's all sad news especially for programmers like myself who I my have cf
> coding skills seeking work
>
> Claude Raiola
>
> SAMARIS Software
>
> www.SAMARIS.net
>
> 1300 255 990
>
>
> On 8 Sep 2015, at 6:36 pm, Andrew Scott  wrote:
>
> Adobe in my opinion have no clue about the product, serious bugs can take
> them years to even fix and even if they do, there is no guarantee that they
> will be released for current supported versions. Most times, they get
> released with the next version only.
>
>
>
> I raised a concurrency issue with ColdFusion 10, that is really a serious
> issue with the Application scope and it took Adobe 3-4 years to actually
> fix it. Nobody can wait that length of time while trying to get work done.
>
>
>
> ​Most places still using ColdFusion are 3 or more versions behind the
> current version, which is obviously a cost factor in upgrading.
>
>
>
> I mean Windows 10 has been stable for a very long time, Adobe had the
> chance to make sure they released connectors that would work on Windows 10
> and yet, to this date I haven't seen any updates for it. They only have
> themselves to blame.​
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Samaris  wrote:
>
> Thanks
>
> Claude Raiola
>
> SAMARIS Software
>
> www.SAMARIS.net
>
> 1300 255 990
>
>
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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

[Dale Fraser]

It's a niece of a niche 

Regards
Dale Fraser

On 9 Sep 2015, at 11:51 am, AJ Mercer  wrote:

Lucee is very active with their CFML engine with a total rebuild for version 5.
The have just announce members of various committees (including Daemonites).
They are also working on a new scripting language to stay current with other 
JVM scripting languages

Well worth a look
http://lucee.org/about.html
http://lucee.org/blog.html

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> On 8 September 2015 at 16:11, Dale Fraser  wrote:
> Largely because its not Free, and as such people over many years didn’t use 
> it because of the cost.
> 
>  
> 
> All the main stream competitors are 100% free
> 
>  
> 
> PHP
> 
> Ruby
> 
> ASP
> 
> Java
> 
> Node
> 
>  
> 
> The list goes on. Railo & Lucee came too late to the party to make a big 
> difference.
> 
>  
> 
> I don’t think the tag based nature of writing code for so many years appealed 
> to hard core devs also, fixed now but too late.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dale Fraser
> 
>  
> 
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Samaris
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2015 5:47 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion
> 
>  
> 
> It's a shame 
> 
>  
> 
> Why do you think it's no longer popular it to me at least was the easiest 
> platform learn with plenty of functionally 
> 
> Claude Raiola
> 
> SAMARIS Software
> 
> www.SAMARIS.net
> 
> 1300 255 990
> 
> 
> On 8 Sep 2015, at 5:34 pm, Dale Fraser  wrote:
> 
> It’s not popular and is not widely used.
> 
>  
> 
> With that said there are a still companies using it, but I don’t think many 
> adopting it.
> 
>  
> 
> Most of the big CF dev shops I know of have moved on or are moving onto other 
> technologies.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dale Fraser
> 
>  
> 
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of rai...@ozemail.com.au
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2015 12:19 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Just wondering how popular CF is across business and if there are still 
> any large companies using CF as opposed to other solutions ???
> 
>  
> 
> I am looking for Remote CF work and it would be handy to have an 
> understanding of the current CF level of use
> 
>  
> 
> Any thoughts / suggestions or knowledge of anyone needing some Remote CF 
> development / maintenance work please do let me know
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Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion

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and SQL, too.

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