My efforts to learn a new language I want to make sure it's a language that 
will be in demand for a while, so I am not wanting to spend time learning cobol 
for example of its a language that's fading out of use as cf is 

Claude Raiola
SAMARIS Software
www.SAMARIS.net
1300 255 990

> On 9 Sep 2015, at 10:55 am, M@ Bourke <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Every CF developer (as well as any developer) should always be learning 
> another language, not only will it increase your career security it will 
> benefit your CF skills
> 
>> On 9 Sep 2015 6:27 am, "Samaris" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Dale 
>> 
>> Are you referring to cf or cobol
>> 
>> Claude Raiola
>> SAMARIS Software
>> www.SAMARIS.net
>> 1300 255 990
>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2015, at 9:16 am, Dale Fraser <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are lots of companies and sites using it still
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> You shouldn’t have trouble finding one, might just take a bit of time.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Dale Fraser
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>> Behalf Of Paul Kukiel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2015 9:03 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Companies Using ColdFusion
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Basically there are so few COBOL guys that you have to pay them a fortune 
>>> to hire them.  Same thing is happening to cf
>>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2015 8:37 am, "Samaris" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your reply
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Can you clarify your very last comment re becoming the new cobol developer 
>>> guys ???
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I am working part time in a company who's main system is written in cobol 
>>> would love to work on the system to improve it however I have no cobol 
>>> experience and they would only seek experienced cobol developers grrrr
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have good cd skills and have solo built system from the ground up that 
>>> processes over 1.5mill in payments per month. But finding work where I can 
>>> automate existing manual processes for companies by building admin apps for 
>>> them is like finding a needle in a hay stack. My site is www.Samaris.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Claude Raiola
>>> 
>>> SAMARIS Software
>>> 
>>> www.SAMARIS.net
>>> 
>>> 1300 255 990
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2015, at 8:25 am, Christophe Albrech 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For sure man. People have been defending cf for years saying that nope, it 
>>> is not going anywhere, but now even the most prolific bloggers in the cf 
>>> community have all but jumped ship (not a stab at them, by the way). There 
>>> will be a CF12, maybe a CF13, but I'd say that's about it. There are still 
>>> jobs out there, though. Porting a big-enough app to a different language is 
>>> neither easy nor cheap, and some company can't be bothered or don't have 
>>> the forethought to do it in the first place. We're becoming the new cobol 
>>> developers, guys. Yay.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Samaris <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's all sad news especially for programmers like myself who I my have cf 
>>> coding skills seeking work 
>>> 
>>> Claude Raiola
>>> 
>>> SAMARIS Software
>>> 
>>> www.SAMARIS.net
>>> 
>>> 1300 255 990
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8 Sep 2015, at 6:36 pm, Andrew Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Adobe in my opinion have no clue about the product, serious bugs can take 
>>> them years to even fix and even if they do, there is no guarantee that they 
>>> will be released for current supported versions. Most times, they get 
>>> released with the next version only.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I raised a concurrency issue with ColdFusion 10, that is really a serious 
>>> issue with the Application scope and it took Adobe 3-4 years to actually 
>>> fix it. Nobody can wait that length of time while trying to get work done.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> ​Most places still using ColdFusion are 3 or more versions behind the 
>>> current version, which is obviously a cost factor in upgrading.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I mean Windows 10 has been stable for a very long time, Adobe had the 
>>> chance to make sure they released connectors that would work on Windows 10 
>>> and yet, to this date I haven't seen any updates for it. They only have 
>>> themselves to blame.​
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Andrew Scott
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Samaris <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks 
>>> 
>>> Claude Raiola
>>> 
>>> SAMARIS Software
>>> 
>>> www.SAMARIS.net
>>> 
>>> 1300 255 990
>>> 
>>>  
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