[cfaussie] Re: CFers employed ?
I'm gainfully employed - of course I work in a dot net shop and I'm the only person in the office who knows that we use cold fusion. Sharptongue wrote: Hi chaps and chapesses I've heared recently, from several independent sources, that it's hard to find CFers because nearly all of them are already gainfully employed. If true, then it's certainly a turnaround from when I joined this group (2002-03), when I first heard the the phrase will code for food. So, speak up. Who has stable employment, and is anyone still wearing the will code for food sign ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Wanted: junior css/html ninja
I've certainly seen people I'd class as 'Juniors' graduating from uni. As an employer I've seen kids come out of QUT's IT program having spent 3 years in the database stream and the only DB they've used is access, and the only programming they know how to do is through a wizard. If you go back to uni after working in the industry for a while, you'll be horrified at how little the kids know, and how wildly out of date/mickey mouse the course material often is. I've heard suggestions that they deliberately push older/mickey mouse tech because it's more widely used in small business which is where most Australians end up working - but as an employer - it's much harder then it should be to find a graduate who actually knows what they're talking about. Usually we end up spending as much time training recent grads as we do training an ex helpdesk monkey. Steve Onnis wrote: Is there such a thing as junior developers these days? I mean what sort of skill set does a uni student come out with these days and what unis still pump out web developers? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Heacock Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2008 11:42 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Wanted: junior css/html ninja Hi All, If anyone knows a junior developer with strong skills in CSS and HTML, I'm looking for a contractor in Canberra for about 20 hours per week on-site. Coldfusion skills would be an advantage, but not required. Like I said, this is a junior position, so a current student, recent graduate or self-taught geek would be right for the job. Please ask them contact David Heacock at The ZOO Group, 02 6260 8777. Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Wanted: junior css/html ninja
D'oh - wasn't my intention to particularly bag QUT - they were just intended to be a case in point. I'm actually quite a fan of QUT as uni students/grads go. Almost all the students or recent grads that I've hired and been happy with came from QUT's programs - I know that's hardly an objective assesment, but I've really had far more good then bad experiences with the people that come out of their programs - it's just a continuing point of frustration that they so often, students who have 3 year degrees that on paper - should relate directly to the work we're recruiting them for, have never been exposed in any form to the tools that business actually uses. Barry Beattie wrote: I'd have to somewhat agree with Sean here, although I'm not going to bag QUT or any other institution. it's worth remembering that there are two distinct streams of education past high schools - higher education (universities and colleges with degrees): judged by how well you performed - vocational training (TAFE and other VET institutions): competent/not yet competent. the two are reasonably different. as you can gather, vocational training is skills based, whereas higher education deals with some of the bigger picture or takes a larger holistic view. HOW verses WHY to put it bluntly. Universities specifically *don't* teach you how to do tasks - you should (in theory) be smart enough to pick that up yourself (which is where the role of the tutor - and tutorials generally - is so valuable) what's happened in IT/Computer (and by extention us here in the webby world) is a collision of these needs. I'd argue that if you just want a coder, looks at TAFE's (et al) and not universities. There are plenty or RTO's (registered training organisations) deliving the ICA05 training packages (some diplomas are specifically for web development) but if you want a long-term employee who will grow well past that role and into areas like management then a TAFE diploma by itself may not cut it. Either get a Uni graduate and then skill them up or get an ex TAFE student and allow them further education paths. (this is just an FYI, no help for David in his specific case here) I've heard tons of ex-uni students who complain bitterly that their degrees taught then nothing but they learned much more moving to VET - it comes down to what students are looking for. I also suspect that many high school students have been let down by their guidance councilor in helping them understand what these different forms of education mean and what's best for them. ICT is a bit special because it's so heavily involved in doing, and how to do it is constantly changing. The demarcation between the two forms of adult education can be clearer in areas like humanities where training to get a diploma in social work does not equate to a bachelor of arts. (things are a fair bit more complicated than this - I'm just watering it down to make it easier to digest) last point: I won't speak for other states, but Queensland has embraced the concept of life long learning where the many levels of educational institutions are starting to work together in concert. Certificate 2's and 3's (or in some cases higher) or some first year Uni subjects (like Griffith Uni's GUEST program) are able to be done in senior at high schools. Part of it is marketing and capturing the minds of prospective students earlier than the competition, but part is to try and make the transition (all the way up to a Masters) flow a lot better. The idea is not new - for the last 8 years (longer?) a Diploma at Southbank TAFE has (generally) meant the first year off a degree at QUT - but the integration is getting a lot smoother and is now incorporating more high schools. sorry, David, this (by itself) doesn't solve your problem ...just some background in a nutshell... but my suggestion is contact some TAFE's in your area and see if they've got any graduates for ICA50605 Diploma of Information Technology (Website Development) http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ICA05+RTO hope this helps cheers barry.b On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've certainly seen people I'd class as 'Juniors' graduating from uni. As an employer I've seen kids come out of QUT's IT program having spent 3 years in the database stream and the only DB they've used is access, and the only programming they know how to do is through a wizard. If you go back to uni after working in the industry for a while, you'll be horrified at how little the kids know, and how wildly out of date/mickey mouse the course material often is. I've heard suggestions that they deliberately push older/mickey mouse tech because it's more widely used in small business which is where most Australians end up working - but as an employer - it's much harder then it should be to find a graduate who actually knows what they're
[cfaussie] Dev Tools and toys
I've recently been reviewing my chosen dev tools and toys, and having a play with some new stuff. I'm fairly sold on Eclipse after the numerous earlier reccomendations and html formatter (http://www.logichammer.com/html-formatter/) with it's native CF support has done wonders for some of my more hurried code's readability. But I assume there's plenty of other useful stuff out there, any suggestions for stuff I should check out? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Dev tools that don't require pesky licenses?
I've got a fairly narrow window to do some CF dev in my current (non CF) role, hosting costs for CF are not a problem - but I haven't as yet been able to swing a copy of DreamWeaver. Ha s anybody got a handy suggestion for a good, preferrably free alternative for banging some code together? I've just been working from the trusty notepad++ - but I do miss the handy colourizations and autocompletes from DW. (Yes, I've considered other ways to get hold of DW - but they wouldn't really be appropriate.) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: should DateFormat() be depricated (in favour of LSDateFormat())?
hang on... what's wrong with U.S people setting their systems to a U.S locale and using the LS functions? We have to (should) set our systems to en_AU. Wot, some locales are more equal than others? I wonder what % of people buying CF are in the US? I know it's less the case then say a few years ago - but I was once told by a software vendor that 'catering for foriegn date formats isn't worth the effort' and that I should 'suck it up and just use US date formatting'. I would note that the vendor has since been bought out by microsoft after having been a leader in their field for years while refusing to support alternate date formats. My experience has almost universally been that developer tools were developed first and foremost for the US market and internationalization was always an afterthought hacked together at the last minute. Or that some locates are absolutely more equal than others in development practice if not in the PR material. (and if the server is wrong, then re-ssetting the locale as Andrew suggests is the fix, not an if DateFormat else LSDateFormat) where as LsDateFormat is not predictable due to it's dependancy on the locale IMHO, that's not a problem. Set your locale up correctly and you should get just the results you want. The app's moving to a different locale? change that, not the code/conversions/hacks. 2008-01-04 16:18:00.000 is the 1st of April with DateFormat or (correctly) 4th of Jan with LSDateFormat... the core data (in the database) is agnostic - just the way it should be. your application formats it just so, depending on what you set-up for your region (a la workstation operating systems and MSWord, etc). If all the LS functions work perfectly well after setting the locale - no matter what locale it is - then why have the older versions at all? It's a shame when i18n becomes an afterthought and you get burnt by needing to retrofit it. if what people are saying is that LSDateFormat is broken in en_US locales then that's what needs to be said. A generic fix in the hand is worth more than two hacks in the bush. eh my 2c barry.b On Jan 7, 2008 1:32 PM, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi y'all, I'm not completely sure that this is a problem that needs to get fixed... maybe I'm missing something...? Barry I'm definitely feeling your pain on this one ;) Dateformat will format dates in US format regardless of the set/selected/configured/OS/JVM locale. LSDateFormat will format (and parse) using the specified locale. Both will allow you to mask the output format in the same way, ie dd mm or mm dd IMO the difference (and cause of confusion in non US places) is two fold; 1. Often a non-US application could be hosted in the US or the server has the locale set to US when it shouldn't be. Some won't be aware of it - hence the LS parsing will be US anyhow. 2. DateFormat will parse strings to dates (as will DateParse). BUT when doing so it's too smart (or dumb) ... Dateformat will accept an input string like 29 01 2007 clearly this is not a US but DateFormat will parse correctly it because there is no ambiguity - IMO this scenarios should throw an error instead, it would help avoid problems. I don't think it can be deprecated. How would you then parse a US date string to a date object without setting your local to US? Perhaps another parse/format function that can be used by explicitly specifying the input at output masks. ie; DateStringFormat(strDate,mm dd yy,dd mm yy). Barry, am I right to assume your problem was with dates as strings? Cheers. btw... I really am in a different world today - kicking back in Adelaide with a beach view nice ;) On Jan 7, 2008 11:42 AM, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Retrofitting DataFormat to do what LSDateFormat does breaks principle-of-least-surprise; Probably won't be too long before an angry mob gathers. That said, deprecating DateFormat sounds like a good idea, if for no other reason but the fact that it makes your app easier to localise. Andrew Scott wrote: Very good question, LS, or location / region settings was an added hack to get localisation working. My view is that it is about time that this was all brought internal to Coldfusion, so that we as developers make one setting either in the OS, or Admin of CF and forget about it. However it is there for backwards compatability. But if it wasn't a hack in the first place, I do not think we would fall into this trap... And yes I still fall into this trap, even though I should know better. As for LSDateFormat working in the USA, it does as long as setLocale() is set to that region. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 9015 8628 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
[cfaussie] Re: [OT] hackers/crackers and spammers
Yeah - but when the DDos kids step up to Hackmailing, the history of reports is often the difference between the little asshat getting picked up, and another business forking over a hefty handfull of money to D4rk4c35 so that he'll go away. skateboard.com.au wrote: I have gone down this route before and had the Victorian Computer Crimes Division chase up a ddos for me (I managed to get some specific optus details via other means, not just the i.ps of the servers in china flooding). They have a low priority on ddos/hacking. They are fairly busy tracking down kiddy fiddlers. They took 5 weeks but eventually gave the script kiddies mum a nasty phone call. -Original Message- From: Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:36:11 +1000 Subject: [cfaussie] Re: [OT] hackers/crackers and spammers You may alternately want to drop a call to your local police station and ask for reccomendations as to the next course of action. Hacking is illegal in Australia - and where possible it is pursued. The majority of e-crime goes un reported and consequently is much harder for the relevant authorities to track. Reporting it - even if it doesn't result in any immediate outcomes does help the people who are trying to deal with the problem. skateboard.com.au wrote: Taco If it has stopped, I'd just leave it at that. If you really know who they are they were just sloppy. It's fairly simple to download a tool these days that allows you to spawn floods from a vast number of infected machines around the world. Best thing is to not antogonise these people and hope they go away. Drew -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:39:16 +1100 Subject: [cfaussie] Re: [OT] hackers/crackers and spammers Taco, That is a very good question, apart from what you have done or about to do by going to their ISP. The next step would be legal action, but is that a road you would be comfortable with, as it would be costly. The bright side is that at least you are aware of it, and can take the necessary actions to stop them. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 9015 8628 Mobile: 0404 998 273 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2007 1:28 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] [OT] hackers/crackers and spammers Just wondering what some of you do when you encounter hackers/crackers/spammers on your website? We have some code in place that detects leeching, possible flood attacks, scanning etc. during the xmas period some people been having a go at our site. We know who it is, sent them an email to explain their actions. No response yet, and not expecting one. We're thinking of going to their host next... But what else is there that one can do about these people? -- Looking for a business, product or service? Try the new Australian search engine http://www.clickfind.com.au www.clickfind.com.au blog: http://australian-search-engine.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: 301 redirect based on Query String
Hi Matthew, I'm guessing a bit about how your app works, but I'd think, the code snippet listed earlier should work fine if you use URL rewrites- cfif productidentifier eq abc cfheader statuscode=301 statustext=Moved permanently cfheader name=Location value=http://www.new-url.com/blah/products/def product=def /cfif From the perspective of the search engine - their crawler sends a get to www.domain.com/blah/products/abc - and assumes that it's gotten to a default document. It then gets back a response that contains moved permanently headers, so it will update it's record set and everything will be as happy as it's going to get. Matthew wrote: Hi Sean, Thanks for the interesting history! In regards to using ISAPI ReWrite; I thought of using this (in fact I will be on a new project) however I don't think that it would still solve my problem, because to create a 301 in IIS it is my understanding that you open up IIS, right click on the file you wish to 301 and change the properties etc. However with your example there is no abc.htm, therefore you couldn't right click on this file, right? You'd have to right click on index.cfm but you'd end up with the same problem. Perhaps I'm missing something? My thinking is that ISAPI ReWrite sits in front of IIS (I know it's part of it but just for painting a picture bare with me), so esentially IIS never sees / product/abc.htm because it sees index.cfm?product=abc Am I right? I'll go and read Sarah's article now. Cheers Matthew On Dec 19, 2:07 pm, Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew - The relevant RFC (1738) was written in '94 and includes a whole bunch of specifications for gopher. Nobody was really doing what your doing on the web in 94. RFC 2616 defines 301's and was written in 99 - and even then, the sort of complex data display that you're dealing with was pretty uncommon. The specs were written with the expectation that you would have /product/abc.htm, /product/def.htm. Ideally, use URL rewrites to present search engines with what the RFC's tell them to expect, but keep your application developer friendly in the background. If you can't do that you have to weight up developer time vs search engine impact. Matthew wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks for the feedback. BRETT/ANDREW: you're right, my problem is that SE's are trying to spider to this page (and cloging up my inbox with errors) hence why I want to 301 so that the SE's learn about the new page. SEAN: what you've said makes sense but out of interest how else would you build a website without re-using a page? That's the point of URL parameters isn't it? Cheers again everyone. On Dec 19, 12:30 pm, Brett Payne-Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be wondering whether this is really a 301 problem though. Isn't it just that the product no longer exists? index.cfm still exists. Is there some danger that search engines will start to drop indexes for your index.cfm urls? Like I said... just wondering out loud really... B) Matthew wrote: Hi guys, I've renamed several pages on a website and I'd like to setup 301 redirects, however I can't find out a way to do this based on the query string. Here's an example to explain: OLD URL: index.cfm?product=abc NEW URL: index.cfm?product=def Everything I've ready on IIS 301 redirects seems to imply that you can only have a 301 per file and not take into account a query string attribute. Therefore in the example above all calls to index.cfm would be redirected! So am I right in say that I'll have to do the 301 in my CF code i.e. withing index.cfm have the following: cfif url.product eq abc cfheader statuscode=301 statustext=Moved permanently cfheader name=Location value=http://www.new-url.com/index.cfm? product=def /cfif Cheers Matthew -- Brett Payne-Rhodes Eaglehawk Computing t: +61 (0)8 9371-0471 m: +61 (0)414 371 047 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:www.yoursite.net.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: 301 redirect based on Query String
Matthew - The relevant RFC (1738) was written in '94 and includes a whole bunch of specifications for gopher. Nobody was really doing what your doing on the web in 94. RFC 2616 defines 301's and was written in 99 - and even then, the sort of complex data display that you're dealing with was pretty uncommon. The specs were written with the expectation that you would have /product/abc.htm, /product/def.htm. Ideally, use URL rewrites to present search engines with what the RFC's tell them to expect, but keep your application developer friendly in the background. If you can't do that you have to weight up developer time vs search engine impact. Matthew wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks for the feedback. BRETT/ANDREW: you're right, my problem is that SE's are trying to spider to this page (and cloging up my inbox with errors) hence why I want to 301 so that the SE's learn about the new page. SEAN: what you've said makes sense but out of interest how else would you build a website without re-using a page? That's the point of URL parameters isn't it? Cheers again everyone. On Dec 19, 12:30 pm, Brett Payne-Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be wondering whether this is really a 301 problem though. Isn't it just that the product no longer exists? index.cfm still exists. Is there some danger that search engines will start to drop indexes for your index.cfm urls? Like I said... just wondering out loud really... B) Matthew wrote: Hi guys, I've renamed several pages on a website and I'd like to setup 301 redirects, however I can't find out a way to do this based on the query string. Here's an example to explain: OLD URL: index.cfm?product=abc NEW URL: index.cfm?product=def Everything I've ready on IIS 301 redirects seems to imply that you can only have a 301 per file and not take into account a query string attribute. Therefore in the example above all calls to index.cfm would be redirected! So am I right in say that I'll have to do the 301 in my CF code i.e. withing index.cfm have the following: cfif url.product eq abc cfheader statuscode=301 statustext=Moved permanently cfheader name=Location value=http://www.new-url.com/index.cfm? product=def /cfif Cheers Matthew -- Brett Payne-Rhodes Eaglehawk Computing t: +61 (0)8 9371-0471 m: +61 (0)414 371 047 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:www.yoursite.net.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
I was in in exactly that circumstance for about 8 months this year. The webserver I had to locate my scripts on due to VPN restrictions was also running a bunch of other tools that couldn't be upgraded for various reasons - so all my code had to be retuned to run on CF5 instead of CF7. I spent more time trying to find a copy my old CF5 books so I could check syntax then I did building my apps. Barry Beattie wrote: and life may not be that simple... ... I know a place that has enterprise-wide CF enterprise licenses for CF7 ... and yet some poor sods there were still working on CF5 systems. sometimes it comes down to the migration process, the QA ... maybe even the politics from a .NET or Java group within the enterprise trying to kill off their CF rivals ... On Nov 30, 2007 2:05 PM, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Brett, Never let the details get in the way of a good post ;) Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Payne-Rhodes Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices I don't think you can assume that it is a $600 upgrade. Could be enterprise. Could be clustered. And I'm not even sure there is an upgrade from CF5 to CF8? That isn't to say that your point isn't a valid one. What IS the cost of the upgrade compared to the $s spent trying to make it work with what could now be construed as a hack? B) Dale Fraser wrote: How much time and $ are you wasting to save yourself a $600 upgrade. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 2:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Coldfusion 5, uses com objects. Visual Studio can create com objects a pain in the arse, with a lot interop etc., but it can be done. I am sure Scott Barnes will pop in soon enough, and provide some more insight. Or, you could upgrade to CF8 and have it all built in for you:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:05 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices Yeah I had thought of that already its just so messy that I don't want to make any more of a mess from what already is there. I have another solution which I will use instead...i.e. .NET Thanks again. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF5 invoking .NET 2.0 webservices
I've used .net1.1 webservices it in the past from CFHTTP. It wasn't something I'd reccomend. You might try CFOBJECT to instantiate the SOAP com object? MrBuzzy wrote: I don't know of anything. You *could* post the soap requests using cfhttp. It's not impossible. On 11/29/07, Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can this be done? Or is there a CFX tag I can get that does it...Or am I really streching the boundaries of the Internet... Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Friday arvo O.T - thinking of giving up Apple and going back to Windows.
Barry - Perhaps I'm being a luddite, but Bootcamp facillitates a dual boot and provides windows with a suitable driver base for the hardware so you can install windows. What exactly would be being emulated? I have difficulty imagining what an App might be doing that would make it run with everything on windows unless that windows install was on hardware also capable of running a mac. On Nov 16, 2007 11:18 PM, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sadly no. these particullar apps (from what I can work out), are not only made just for Windows, but call down heavily into the hardware. It's the emulation that they don't work with. they may in fact work in a fashion under emulation on an Intel Mac, but it comes with no guarentee, and I can't afford the risk. On 11/16/07, AJ Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Barry, Have you seen Parallels or bootcamp on the Mac? Would having windows (XP) like this for those Adobe apps be a good enough solution? On Nov 16, 2007 4:47 PM, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it can On 11/16/07, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been looking at turning over my laptop for a new one soon ... .. but due to a couple of key Adobe applications that are Windows only and don't seem to work on an Intel Mac, I may have to say goodbye to OS X. Shame. Sure Windows XP is still available but to be honest, for future proofing, it probably makes more sense to get a laptop with Vista. the trouble is, everytime someone shows me Vista's swish UI and desktop, I just want to vomit! I'm not at all interested in swooshy interfaces. A decent file manager, drag and drop and plug'n'pray is all I really need to cut code and get stuff happening. For all you vista users, can the over-the-top Vista chrome be turned off so it's just a plane-jane O/S? The first thing I do with a WinXP install it to turn it into Windows Classic. I don't mean I want to be using one of the cripple-ware stripped down versions of Vista, just that I can't see the point in having some fancy piece of rubbish hogging resources. if it wasn't for the Windows problem, I'd probably just use FreeBSD and KDE... thoughts? thanx -- Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -- AJ Mercer Web Log: http://webonix.net -- Cheers Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] SMS Gateways
I'm just in the process of hunting down a new outbound SMS gateway for one of my clients - is anybody using one that they like enough to recommend? Cheers Sean --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] File not found: /cfide/administrator/
I have a weird issue. I'm using ColdFusion Server Enterprise, 7,0,1,116466 on Win2003 with IIS. When I try to browse to /cfide/administrator, I get a file not found error: File not found: /cfide/administrator/ Resources: * Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct syntax. * Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem. Browser Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071008 Firefox/2.0.0.8 I've checked. The files are there. I can copy a very simple test file into the administrator directory and I get the same error, so I don't think it's a missing include/component. I've tried renaming the /cfide/administrator/application.cfm just to make sure that it wasn't something being called from there. If I copy the test file up to the /cfide directory - everything works fine. The administrator directory is locked down to prevent anonymous browsing, and IP restricted. But I can authenticate fine with a user which has full administrator rights over the server. I've verified that the user is a member of the Administrators group, and the administrators group has full control over the full file system. I've tried also giving that user explicit full control over the test file and over the jrun_iis6.dll, and the jrun_iis6_wildcard.dll with no effect. The /cfide/administrator directory is NOT an application root, so it's taking it's extension bindings from it's parent directory - so if the bindings are correct /cfide (which I know they are, because my test script runs), they should therefore be right in /cfide/administrator as well. I've tried making the /cfide/administrator an application root and ensuring that the extension bindings are correct, but still the same error. I've tried enabling anonymous browsing and disabling IP restrictions - also with no effect. I've recycled the relevant application pool, restarted the webservice and restarted the server at various points in trying to resolve the issue without success. The obvious question, what's changed on the server recently is unfortunately pretty broad in terms of content. In terms of system state and operating environment? Nothing relevant that I can find. I'm fairly sure that I'm missing something obvious. But I just can't find it. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: File not found: /cfide/administrator/
I did wonder about that - but the files are where they're supposed to be, and IIS has the correct directory paths. The only things I can find in google are some references to people in the past who've had a permissions error (they think) and an article that doesn't apply. I've hit this issue before, and fixed it by removing and recreating the .cfm extension bindings - unfortunately no joy with that this time. Barry Beattie wrote: has someone been playing around with your IIS mappings? it's like IIS just doesn't know where cfide is, possibly because it may not be be in the webroot, or the default website is somewhere outside it... gut feeling: IIS mapping issue... HTH barry.b On 10/29/07, Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a weird issue. I'm using ColdFusion Server Enterprise, 7,0,1,116466 on Win2003 with IIS. When I try to browse to /cfide/administrator, I get a file not found error: File not found: /cfide/administrator/ Resources: * Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct syntax. * Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem. Browser Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071008 Firefox/2.0.0.8 I've checked. The files are there. I can copy a very simple test file into the administrator directory and I get the same error, so I don't think it's a missing include/component. I've tried renaming the /cfide/administrator/application.cfm just to make sure that it wasn't something being called from there. If I copy the test file up to the /cfide directory - everything works fine. The administrator directory is locked down to prevent anonymous browsing, and IP restricted. But I can authenticate fine with a user which has full administrator rights over the server. I've verified that the user is a member of the Administrators group, and the administrators group has full control over the full file system. I've tried also giving that user explicit full control over the test file and over the jrun_iis6.dll, and the jrun_iis6_wildcard.dll with no effect. The /cfide/administrator directory is NOT an application root, so it's taking it's extension bindings from it's parent directory - so if the bindings are correct /cfide (which I know they are, because my test script runs), they should therefore be right in /cfide/administrator as well. I've tried making the /cfide/administrator an application root and ensuring that the extension bindings are correct, but still the same error. I've tried enabling anonymous browsing and disabling IP restrictions - also with no effect. I've recycled the relevant application pool, restarted the webservice and restarted the server at various points in trying to resolve the issue without success. The obvious question, what's changed on the server recently is unfortunately pretty broad in terms of content. In terms of system state and operating environment? Nothing relevant that I can find. I'm fairly sure that I'm missing something obvious. But I just can't find it. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: File not found: /cfide/administrator/
The server has been up and running for a while. Honestly I don't know if it was working previously - largely because the guy who built the server is currently out of the country. I assume so because there's content accessing a CF DSN's on the server and the initial install is from a SOE image that wouldn't need any changes after it was deployed. Steve Onnis wrote: Was this an upgrade or a fresh install? Did it work before you locked it down? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Bucklar Sent: Monday, 29 October 2007 1:22 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: File not found: /cfide/administrator/ I did wonder about that - but the files are where they're supposed to be, and IIS has the correct directory paths. The only things I can find in google are some references to people in the past who've had a permissions error (they think) and an article that doesn't apply. I've hit this issue before, and fixed it by removing and recreating the .cfm extension bindings - unfortunately no joy with that this time. Barry Beattie wrote: has someone been playing around with your IIS mappings? it's like IIS just doesn't know where cfide is, possibly because it may not be be in the webroot, or the default website is somewhere outside it... gut feeling: IIS mapping issue... HTH barry.b On 10/29/07, Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a weird issue. I'm using ColdFusion Server Enterprise, 7,0,1,116466 on Win2003 with IIS. When I try to browse to /cfide/administrator, I get a file not found error: File not found: /cfide/administrator/ Resources: * Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct syntax. * Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem. Browser Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071008 Firefox/2.0.0.8 I've checked. The files are there. I can copy a very simple test file into the administrator directory and I get the same error, so I don't think it's a missing include/component. I've tried renaming the /cfide/administrator/application.cfm just to make sure that it wasn't something being called from there. If I copy the test file up to the /cfide directory - everything works fine. The administrator directory is locked down to prevent anonymous browsing, and IP restricted. But I can authenticate fine with a user which has full administrator rights over the server. I've verified that the user is a member of the Administrators group, and the administrators group has full control over the full file system. I've tried also giving that user explicit full control over the test file and over the jrun_iis6.dll, and the jrun_iis6_wildcard.dll with no effect. The /cfide/administrator directory is NOT an application root, so it's taking it's extension bindings from it's parent directory - so if the bindings are correct /cfide (which I know they are, because my test script runs), they should therefore be right in /cfide/administrator as well. I've tried making the /cfide/administrator an application root and ensuring that the extension bindings are correct, but still the same error. I've tried enabling anonymous browsing and disabling IP restrictions - also with no effect. I've recycled the relevant application pool, restarted the webservice and restarted the server at various points in trying to resolve the issue without success. The obvious question, what's changed on the server recently is unfortunately pretty broad in terms of content. In terms of system state and operating environment? Nothing relevant that I can find. I'm fairly sure that I'm missing something obvious. But I just can't find it. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: File not found: /cfide/administrator/
D'oh. After much digging, and trying everything suggested - it was eventually discovered by a coworker that permissions were suffering from broken-by-the-GUI-itis. After I reapplied permissions using XCACLS everything worked properly. I hate when somebody else looks at a problem for 5 minutes and finds an answer you've spent the entire day looking for. Thanks for all the suggestions. Gareth Edwards wrote: Maybe manually check your /cfide mapping in the /lib/neo-runtime.xml file? Look for something like var name='/CFIDE'stringC:\webroot\CFIDE/string/var Otherwise, look for the root of your Coldfusion JRun instance and put a copy of the CFIDE directory in there and see if that works? Cheers Gareth. Steve Onnis wrote: Have a look at FileMon (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/filemon.mspx). Install it and try and run some stuff and see if the dll is being accessed at all and if there are any permission issues happening. This is how I have overcome these sorts of issues in the past Steve -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Bucklar Sent: Monday, 29 October 2007 2:03 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: File not found: /cfide/administrator/ The server has been up and running for a while. Honestly I don't know if it was working previously - largely because the guy who built the server is currently out of the country. I assume so because there's content accessing a CF DSN's on the server and the initial install is from a SOE image that wouldn't need any changes after it was deployed. Steve Onnis wrote: Was this an upgrade or a fresh install? Did it work before you locked it down? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Bucklar Sent: Monday, 29 October 2007 1:22 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: File not found: /cfide/administrator/ I did wonder about that - but the files are where they're supposed to be, and IIS has the correct directory paths. The only things I can find in google are some references to people in the past who've had a permissions error (they think) and an article that doesn't apply. I've hit this issue before, and fixed it by removing and recreating the .cfm extension bindings - unfortunately no joy with that this time. Barry Beattie wrote: has someone been playing around with your IIS mappings? it's like IIS just doesn't know where cfide is, possibly because it may not be be in the webroot, or the default website is somewhere outside it... gut feeling: IIS mapping issue... HTH barry.b On 10/29/07, Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a weird issue. I'm using ColdFusion Server Enterprise, 7,0,1,116466 on Win2003 with IIS. When I try to browse to /cfide/administrator, I get a file not found error: File not found: /cfide/administrator/ Resources: * Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct syntax. * Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem. Browser Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071008 Firefox/2.0.0.8 I've checked. The files are there. I can copy a very simple test file into the administrator directory and I get the same error, so I don't think it's a missing include/component. I've tried renaming the /cfide/administrator/application.cfm just to make sure that it wasn't something being called from there. If I copy the test file up to the /cfide directory - everything works fine. The administrator directory is locked down to prevent anonymous browsing, and IP restricted. But I can authenticate fine with a user which has full administrator rights over the server. I've verified that the user is a member of the Administrators group, and the administrators group has full control over the full file system. I've tried also giving that user explicit full control over the test file and over the jrun_iis6.dll, and the jrun_iis6_wildcard.dll with no effect. The /cfide/administrator directory is NOT an application root, so it's taking it's extension bindings from it's parent directory - so if the bindings are correct /cfide (which I know they are, because my test script runs), they should therefore be right in /cfide/administrator as well. I've tried making the /cfide/administrator an application root and ensuring that the extension bindings are correct, but still the same error. I've tried enabling anonymous browsing and disabling IP restrictions - also with no effect. I've recycled the relevant application pool, restarted the webservice and restarted the server at various points in trying to resolve the issue
[cfaussie] Re: SOT: Some Stats
Vista was really a driving motivator in my decision to pick up a Mac a few months ago. I needed a new laptop and it goes against the grain to get a new toy without the shiniest new O/S available on it - but Vista just looked like too much hassle. I'll run Vista from bootcamp or a virtual environment when it gets a bit more stable - but at the moment, working from a a mac and remote accessing a 2003 server is a really stable and workable solution for me. I'm a microsoft weenie through and through. But Vista desperately needs a 'classic' interface at a top level - a user experience wide toggle that will give microsoft applications an XP style UI - they've scared off a massive number of business people with the hassle of learning where all the buttons are now. And then they need an 'advanced user' toggle - even if it requires editing the registry or doing something equivalently scary to frighten away mom and dad home users - that will turn off all the incredibly annoying idiot proofing they've tried to implement. I also really have to wonder how long it's going to remain worth the effort to keep up IE. Sure their user base is huge - but it's diminishing at a rapidly expanding rate, and it constantly draws fire for being shit. I really wonder if they wouldn't be better off ditching the damn thing, and just getting on board with Firefox. Dale Fraser wrote: I must admit that I’m a Microsoft Fan love their work. But Vista has been disappointing in several areas. I don’t see how some of their bad decisions get through to a final release. 1. Whoever thought up UAC should be fired (I had to turn it off it’s so annoying) 2. Whoever can’t resolve the Click To Activate in IE should also be fired. Both of these things are two steps backwards. I am persisting however with Vista and IE. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *AJ Mercer *Sent:* Friday, 26 October 2007 10:18 AM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: SOT: Some Stats There is a thread on the Adobe UG forums saying the CF8 may not run on leopard - the latest OS from Apple. I hope Apple fixes this before the official release. Vista - the best thing that has happened to Apple :-) On 10/26/07, *Dale Fraser* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a look at some stats today in light of the announcement that Ben will be visiting Australia. Thought you may be interested, I was particularly interested in the increased number of FireFox and Mac users compared to stats of other sites I have. I think this is showing a trend for developers mainly, but interesting still. Also based on this Australia is the second most active country for ColdFusion, although this could be misleading given the site is in Australia and I promote it a bit here. What is however accurate is just how far ahead in terms of use the US is. http://learncf.com/stats.cfm Enjoy. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -- AJ Mercer Web Log: http://webonix.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Parallels or Bootcamp?
VMware would probably be my chosen option if I HAD to run virtual machines from my laptop. But I'd much rather just leave a windows machine with a network connection running in the back closet and connect with Terminal Server if I had the option. With a half decent broadband connection - I'd much rather TS into the a remote windows machine then try and run a local virtual install. Bootcamp would IMO be far and away the best way to run a web/sql/cf server from a mac laptop if you won't have a broadband connection. Chris Bernard wrote: I've had very good luck with VM Ware, it's certainly worth a look if you are using Parallels. I find the performance to be a bit a bettre and the emulation 'tax' to be a bit less. In fact I've seen a number of .NET developers actually run Visual Studio in Coherence Mode this way. On Oct 9, 5:16 am, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Kai. The only reason I run windows on my mac is for .NET development and SQL. If it wasn't for that, and the fact that I'm moving on from CF to .NET I wouldn't have it installed in the first place. Nevertheless, Parellels is my choice purely because I use co- herence all the time. out of site out of mind sort of thing. On Oct 9, 10:15 am, Kai Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) I just don't like Windows to have full control over my beloved Mac hardware and to give it it's own partition, that's basically it - and the reason why I've made the switch anyway. It might not be a perfectly logical justification, but I feel more comfortable having Windows just in it's little self-contained environment on the Mac HD. To be honest, if some of my clients weren't on SQL Server, I probably wouldn't even have Parallels installed... Well - and for playing with CF/.NET integration. I do all my other CF/Flex development directly on the Mac. Cheers Kai Kai, Out of curiosity why don't you like Bootcamp? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kai Koenig Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2007 9:40 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Parallels or Bootcamp? Ryan, I don't think there is a def right or wrong here. I personally do not like Bootcamp at all, I just run a Win XP VM in Parallels. There is another religious question to answer - Parallels or Fusion :) Again - some people are saying Fusion has a better performance - for my usage Parallels 3 is fine though, so I stick with it. The important thing to mention anyway is - give the MBP enough RAM, then it should be alright either way. I'm running 4 GB of which I've set aside 1 GB for the Windows VM - and that's fine for CF, IIS and SQL Server for a dev. setup. Maybe give it 1.5 GB... Cheers Kai You should install Bootcamp and then install Parallels to run off the Boot Camp partition. That way you'll get the best of both worlds. From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Sabir Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2007 8:20 AM To: 'cfaussie@googlegroups.com' Subject: [cfaussie] Parallels or Bootcamp? Hi all, We want to run a CF Server, IIS, and MS SQL Server 2005 on a Mac Laptop under a virtual environment. Does Parallels have enough grunt to achieve this? Or should I look at Bootcamp.. is Bootcamp stable enough? thanks- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] DNS lookups
Quick question - I want to query some NS, MX and A records to produce some reporting. Is there a good method of doing these sort of lookups from Cold Fusion? Do I need a custom tag (and if so, anybody know a good/free one?) or is there native functionality I can access that I just don't know about? Does anybody know of a good public web service or something I can just pass queries too? Cheers Sean --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Connection Pooling
Charlie Arehart (lists account) wrote: OK, here's the longer note with some thoughts. First, as for their recommendation to revise your code and ensure that you are utilising connection pooling, it could be that your host is more familiar with .NET, Java, or other languages where one does indeed control pooling manually (in code). The auto-message that Charlie received was drafted at a point in time when the majority of our user base were using ASP (mostly VBSCRIPT) and one of our more common code related issues was a failure to close database connections in code. Managing a very diverse environment we try and keep our alert notices universally applicable where possible. But there are indeed settings in the CF Admin that can affect this. No one has mentioned, but what are your settings related to connections for the DSNs in question? First and foremost, what about maintain connections? Do you have that enabled? If not, then you would indeed use more connections than needed. I do realize some argue against enabling it--but that will cause higher connection use and prevent pool reuse. Mostly in case Chris was wondering, it is enabled. We enable it by default when we create a cfdsn unless specifically asked not to - largely to cut down on excessive connection consumption. It's the DSN connection setting for limit connections which, along with its restrict connections to value. That would seem just the solution here to restrict how many you create. Still, I saw Sean's later note that this is a rather high-volume site, so you will want to be careful in evaluating (and understanding) the impact of any such changes. You seem to be asking for ideas, though, which is why I write. Steven Erat of Adobe did a nice blog entry on this, including some case examples and recommendations, back in 2005 at: http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm/2005/3/14/ConnPooling1 That blog entry is lovely. There's been some dispute around the office on exactly what happens when the limit to N connections option is enabled and the N threshold is exceeded. Experimenting on Chris's v. popular production site seeming like a bad idea, building a test app was on my short list for today but that blog entry has saved me the effort. Having just had a chat to Chris, we've enabled that setting as it will in the very least reduce the quantity of errors. You had mentioned in an earlier note that you might hit up the host for more info and check they have their CF Admin settings correct. Let's hear what you have. Select method - Direct Limit connections - Restrict connections to 35 (previously wasn't configured) Maintain Connections Max pooled statements 1000 Timeout 20 Interval 7 Login timeout 45 (previously 30) My current plan is to tune to timeout and interval settings down if the errors persist further. I don't think that the application is currently exceeding the Max pooled statements - but I don't have any aversion to growing that value either. If it's just that your site is a higher volume CF site than your host is used to, and none of the above help, then perhaps there's nothing to be done other than to negotiate with them to let you use more connections, or change plans, or change hosts. A plan change is certainly possible. Chris is already using the packages at the top of our shared platform offerings, the next step up being a dedicated SQL instance. I'm sure he'd rather get more out of what he's already paying for then pay us some more money. While it's certainly an available option - we're more then happy to try and get him the most out of what he's already got. Hope that's helpful to you and others. It was certainly a big help to me. That blog link in particular is lovely - I failed at Google when I tried to find something of that nature yesterday. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] L
Having had a bit of a look - I agree that it's not his code - he's just got a fantastic site that's getting a pretty awesome volume of traffic - As far as I can tell, it's the most heavily trafficked Cold Fusion site on our shared platform and every now and then he's swamping the connection pooling enough that more then 35 concurrent connections are running. Other then some minor tuning of his queries - there's not much he could possibly have done except have a look at a dedicated SQL server. It says a lot about the quality of his application that it can handle as much traffic as it does from a shared platform to begin with. Barry Beattie wrote: in that case my curiosity has been piqued... only closed connections can be returned to the pool, yes? what would be keeping a bunch of connections open? excessively long queries? a cftransaction gone silly? a trapped error running a query, taking too long to get resolved? pity it's not cf8 with monitoring tool. got SeeFusion handy? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Connection Pooling
Barry, I'd guess not. Assuming Chris hosts with who I think he does, it's an auto generated notice from a threshold exceed alert on db monitoring. It's not a reactive 'oh no, there's a problem, scapegoat someone!' notice - it's proactive monitoring of a threshold determined by the product level. Alternately it's just a really simmilar alert notice to the one we send out - and in that case I couldn't say why it was generated. Cheers Sean On 9/21/07, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, are you sure they're not just picking on you and treating you as a scapegoat for some other problem? -- Cheers Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: MS Outlook Appointment Email Notification Using CF
I'm a huge google fanatic - I love their suite and use the google calendars and thunderbird with the lightening extension to manage my personal calendaring - and I'm hanging out for the day that I can develop business solutions for clients using open source products and freeware solutions - but honestly - none of my business clients would go for a solution that involved using google calendars. Hell, very few of the people I would ever conceivably send a meeting invitation too would use google calendars in any professional sense. It's too much hassle for anybody but a geek to get the level of tool integration required to make it a viable alternative to outlook. If anybody has an outlook compatible solution - I'd love to know about it. Andrew Scott wrote: Very possible. Google, calendars is maybe your best cheap solution. Or you could roll your own .Net integration into Coldfusion to do the job as well. But have a look at google calendars. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au http://www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Claude Raiola *Sent:* Monday, 10 September 2007 11:03 AM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [cfaussie] MS Outlook Appointment Email Notification Using CF Hi, In ms outlook i can create a meeting in my calendar and then invite others to that meeting. Those invited are sent an email requesting their attendance where the attendee can accept to attend by clicking a button which then adds the appointment into their own calendar I am wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to mimic the appointment email format created by outlook in cf. Regards Claude Raiola Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: List/Menu Question.
Treat it as a delimited list? cfscript Freight.Description = ListFirst(form.shippingservice, ' - '); Freight.Cost = ListLast(form.shippingservice, ' - '); /cfscript TJS wrote: Hi Everyone, I was wondering whether anyone knew of a simple solution to the following:- select name=shippingService id=select cfloop query=Freight option value=#Freight.Description# - #Freight.Cost##Freight.Description# - #Freight.Cost#/option /cfloop /select As you can see in the code above, a CFLOOP is being used to populate the options of a List/Menu inside a form. What I would like to do is put the #Freight.Description# and #Freight.Cost# into two seperate session variables. i.e:- CFSET freightDescription = CFSET freightCost = At the moment, my single session variable includes both description and cost. Many thanks in advance to any suggestions. Cheers, Travis. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SURVEY RESULTS: Is ColdFusion OO?
This is an example of why Majority Rule is a really great idea for politics. And not so much for other things. With the right survey group, I'm sure you could get a majority agreement that Lassie was an orangutan. That doesn't make it true. OO is clearly defined. Armstrong's Quarks give an entirely reasonable and general guide to what makes a programming language OO. Cold Fusion ain't it. Maybe you can apply OO concepts to Cold Fusion. Maybe you can classify frameworks when combined with custom code and style guides/practice reccomendations as an OO environment. But out of the box, CF is not OO. Most people who write CF code are NOT producing OO code. And the people who are using CF to produce something that you could conceivably argue is OO are a minority who almost universally inherited the OO mindset from another environment and then plugged the polyformatic peg into a OO shaped hole and called it a square. Dale Fraser wrote: After reading a Blog Entry of Ray Camden, in a general comment, he made this statement. CF is not OO. CF should NOT be OO. And lastly, I pray to God that CF never becomes OO. I didn't agree, I actually think ColdFusion is OO, and thought that view especially from Ray was odd, then I thought, well perhaps I have it wrong, perhaps CF is not OO and i'm the only one who thinks it is. So I ran a Survey, posted to both cftalk and cfaussie. The results are quite interesting. 1. Do you consider ColdFusion to be Object Oriented? Yes: 66% No: 34% 2. What percentage do you think ColdFusion achieves the ability to code OO style. 0-20%: 2% 20-40%: 4% 40-60%: 24% 60-80%: 44% 80-100%: 26% 3. Would you like the Adobe ColdFusion team to further develop ColdFusion OO features? Yes: 58% No: 42% 4. What is the number one feature missing from ColdFusion from an OO point of view? None / Pass: 52% Overloading: 16% Constructors: 10% Overriding: 4% Interfaces: 4% Multiple Inheritance: 2% Serialization: 2% Other: 10% That last one was free text, so I combined a lot of dumb answers into None / Pass and lots of single votes into Other. I consider that CF already does Overriding, but I left it in the stats and CF8 does Interfaces but I left it in also. But here is my summary of the survey Of the people surveyed 66% of people think that ColdFusion is an Object Oriented language, 70% of people think that the OO features are between 60-100%, just over half 58% of people think more development needs to be done and the main two things missing are Overloading and Constructors. So ColdFusion is Object Oriented after all, I have always thought so and am supported by the numbers, we here code our entire application in a OO way so to me it was a no brainer. You could read deeper that if Adobe just added Overloading and Constructors that the CF OO feel would be almost complete but then again 52% of people passed on what the main missing feature was. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFLocation stopped working
This may have been mentioned before - but http://www.fiddlertool.com/fiddler/ is pretty useful for header analysis. Even if it was written by the Evil Empire (TM) skateboard.com.au wrote: Hi Mike Cflocation is all about the headers. Check the http headers being sent to the browser. Compare what you are seeing between the working and non working pages. If your browser does not give you easy access to this, get another cf page to cfhttp the pages and dump the full headers that way. Thats how I solved cflocation issues in the past anyway. cheers Drew -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:10:01 +1000 Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFLocation stopped working I havent had time to get at this for a few days now. It's very frustrating because the code used to work fine. It works fine on my production site.It's only my dev machine that shows this problem. So I figured fine it's not the code, it's to do with the environment then. What have i changed? Not IIS, Not Apache, Not the Code, not the database. - the only thing left is ColdFusion itself - i applied the updaters to it. That must be the culprit. Then someone suggested I try a page with only a CLOCATION tag in it, and that threw my theory into a spin because it worked. If my theory was right (that the updaters had somehow broken the server) it shouldnt have worked. So I dont know where to go looking now. Perhaps i'll re-install ColdFusion and see where that gets me. Maybe i havent installed the updaters correctly or there was a hiccup during the updaters application. But i'm really clutching at straws here, not really seeing what (apart from a broken CF Server) the problem could be. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 7/2/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, Have you tried line debugging the code to see what is actually happening? It might be something very obtuse.. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Unable to retrieve collections from the Search Service.
I've got a box reporting the following when I try and view the verity collections menu in the cfadministrator. Unable to retrieve collections from the Search Service. Please verify that the ColdFusion MX Search Server is installed and running. The search server is indeed up and running. I've restarted it a several times. As well as the application server and the odbc server for good measure with no impact on the error behavior. The following tech note provided a cause and solution for this behavior. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=6c6881a9pss=rss_coldfusion_6c6881a9 Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be applicable, and the suggested resolution doesn't really work. Has anybody come across this error and have a handy solution available? Its a production server, so Ideally I'd prefer not to have to restart the box. Cheers Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
What strings are you expecting them to attach? Of course Microsoft have an Agenda. But why do we care? We all know that Microsoft want to schmooze developers to maintain their market share - but really, why do we care? Schmooze me! Give me some swag, broadband and beer. Its not going to change my professional assessment of their products. That's going to continue to be based on an active assessment of their products, not the marketing crap. But I'm still perfectly happy to take their freebies as offered. I don't really expect the M$ Gestappo to show up and brand us as Adobe fans and ship us off to ghetto's for .Net lessons. And if they start pressuring presenters over content? We'll move the UG somewhere else. On 3/13/07, Gareth Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft would commit to holding an Adobe user group at one of there offices? with no strings attached? Brisbane HQ? Is that in the City? Cheers Gareth. Scott Barnes wrote: Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) I will buy your love hows that :) On 3/12/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry and I discussed it off-list. They have a common problem, working in a place where they don't have wireless access, and while there's a computer in the room which does have net access, it belongs to the facility and they don't want any software installed, so the presenters instead just plug their laptops into the projector. All that makes recording using tools like Breeze/Connect/LiveMeeting impossible. We did discuss options for recording off-line, using tools such as Camtasia, CamStudio, and so on. He will consider those, but then you're talking about installing s/w on the presenter's laptops, and they have to have time to become familiar to do the recording, plus they would be big (though both the above can compress to SWF when done). Then you have to find a place to host the recordings, and I recommended Google video, which has no time limit like youtube and aol video. We shall see if they can do it. I'll understand if they can't. I'll be writing all this up in a blog entry to offer the suggestions to other CFUG organizers. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:18 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Yeah record it damnz it ... I could offer up office live recordings lol... Barry: You've got the mics, I can go out tommorow and grab a decent web cam? On 3/10/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to give up too easily. :-) When you say you don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content, what do you mean? Do you really mean something about the content? Or the typical presenter's setup? Or the environment? I mean, if you've got a laptop with a mic, and an internet connection, that's all you need. You start the meeting in Connect, and hit record. You don't need to bother with letting others join in, if that's a concern. And you DEFINITELY don't need to worry about a camera for video. All people care about is the presenter's screen and voice. Not trying to be pushy, but that just sounds like a great session, so it would be wonderful to see it recorded. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gareth Edwards Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:27 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Doubt it Charlie. We have used Connect in the past to do an online user group presentation. I don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content. Cheers Gareth. Charlie Arehart wrote: Hey, Barry, will you be recording this using the free Acrobat Connect account that Adobe permits user groups to use? If you guys need any help being able to that, just let me know. This sounds like a very compelling presentation. :-) /Charlie -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com -- Cheers Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Wait... They might tell us something we want to hear? They might provide us with useful information? That's not a compelling argument for me to stay away from them. I'm not an Adobe employee or shareholder. I have no commitment to their brand beyond what the strength of their product dictates. I'm on the list and interested in the UG's because hey - I think the product is pretty strong. But I'm certainly not going to put my fingers in my ears and avoid other ideas because they might be compelling. End of the day - I'm going to use the best tool for my requirements and project constraints. 90% of the time for me thats Cold Fusion, in combination with Microsoft Databases or Microsoft Servers, to deliver services to users on Microsoft workstations using Microsoft Browsers. I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of things Microsoft could say to me that would be useful and interesting - that wouldn't require any significant changes in my platform. But if they did have something to say that persuaded half the CF community to shift to .net? That would be a big screaming sign to me that I should go look at this .Net crap a bit more closely. Because nothing I've seen about the platform should be that persuasive. And if they have that kind of persuasion available - where we hold the UG won't matter a bit. On 3/13/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We care because of the agenda. If Microsoft want to just help CF community with the agenda to just push SQL and other complimentary products to CF then that would be fine. If the agenda is to push competing products then I think it's not appropriate and Adobe would be silly to allow this. .NET has some compelling arguments, if half the CF community move to it as a result of MS push then we care Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Bucklar Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:27 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. What strings are you expecting them to attach? Of course Microsoft have an Agenda. But why do we care? We all know that Microsoft want to schmooze developers to maintain their market share - but really, why do we care? Schmooze me! Give me some swag, broadband and beer. Its not going to change my professional assessment of their products. That's going to continue to be based on an active assessment of their products, not the marketing crap. But I'm still perfectly happy to take their freebies as offered. I don't really expect the M$ Gestappo to show up and brand us as Adobe fans and ship us off to ghetto's for .Net lessons. And if they start pressuring presenters over content? We'll move the UG somewhere else. On 3/13/07, Gareth Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft would commit to holding an Adobe user group at one of there offices? with no strings attached? Brisbane HQ? Is that in the City? Cheers Gareth. Scott Barnes wrote: Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) I will buy your love hows that :) On 3/12/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry and I discussed it off-list. They have a common problem, working in a place where they don't have wireless access, and while there's a computer in the room which does have net access, it belongs to the facility and they don't want any software installed, so the presenters instead just plug their laptops into the projector. All that makes recording using tools like Breeze/Connect/LiveMeeting impossible. We did discuss options for recording off-line, using tools such as Camtasia, CamStudio, and so on. He will consider those, but then you're talking about installing s/w on the presenter's laptops, and they have to have time to become familiar to do the recording, plus they would be big (though both the above can compress to SWF when done). Then you have to find a place to host the recordings, and I recommended Google video, which has no time limit like youtube and aol video. We shall see if they can do it. I'll understand if they can't. I'll be writing all this up in a blog entry to offer the suggestions to other CFUG organizers. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:18 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Yeah record it damnz it ... I could offer up office live recordings lol... Barry: You've got the mics, I can go out tommorow and grab a decent web cam? On 3/10/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to give up too easily. :-) When you say you don't think it is really practical
[cfaussie] Re: OT: Moving to Sydney
Hi Max, Most of those queries I'm no good for, since I'm from Brisbane (and currently in Central NFLD, Canada), but for broadband provider selection - check out the comparisons over at whirlpool.net.au ( http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc-list.cfm?loc=2 ) On 12/17/06, Maximilian Nyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi dear group ;) This is really WAY off topic and I'm not sure if this appropriate for this forum. If it's not, please feel free to ignore it, or to tell me off Anyway, here we go... ;) I'm moving to Sydney (from Wellington) with my family first week of January and have a few questions. Who's the best services providers for: (Doesn't necessarily have to be the cheapest, even thought that would be nice too) - Broadband - Phone (land line and mobile) - TV/Cable - Electricity/Gas Also, we'll need stuff to fill our new home once we found one. So where's the best place for that? I know you guys have IKEA and I'm thrilled about that (since I'm from Sweden), but where else? EBay? And if anyone knows anyone who like to sell stuff, I will probably want to buy it ;) We might end up renting a furnished apartment, so I'm not sure how much furniture we going to need. But one thing that we'll definitely need a few monitors (two for me and one for my wife). And then there is all the other everyday stuff that one needs to setup a new home. I'm sorry to intrude on this group like this,but thank you for your time. Best regards, Max -- Cheers Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Cold Fusion Is Old Hat compared to php aps etc !!!!
Just to be devils advocate for a moment, how are the figures for domains with say .aspx or .php extensions looking? My impression is that a simple doubling isn't keeping up with broader market growth. I'd hate to be peddling shoddy statistics. On 12/14/06, Robin Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently done some work scanning CF sites in the .au domain. My client owns the list so I cannot share it with you, but I can tell you that in the three years since I last ran a scan like this, the number of domains including pages with a .cfm extension has almost DOUBLED. Yes there are more php and asp pages, but they are both free products and ColdFusion is not that far behind them (i.e. in the same order of magnitude of pages). Robin __ Robin Hilliard Director - RocketBoots Pty Ltd Consulting . Recruitment . Software Licensing . Training http://www.rocketboots.com.au For schedule/availability call Pamela Higgins: w+61 7 5451 0362 m+61 419 677 151 f+61 3 9923 6261 e[EMAIL PROTECTED] or Direct: m+61 418 414 341 e[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of claude raiola Sent: Thursday, 14 December 2006 8:55 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [cfaussie] Cold Fusion Is Old Hat compared to php aps etc Hi, A client commented that CF is old hat and behind the times its market share is diminishing beaten by asp, php and others A list of largely highly trafficked websites in cf would be helpful to prove this client wrong and champion the cf cause Kind Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt. Mobile: 0414 228 948 Phone: 07 5538 5961 Fax: 07 3319 6444 Websites: www.WebsiteSolutions.com.au www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.AccommodationNewZealand.com www.HospitalityPurchasing.net www.Samaris.net -- Cheers Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?
Forget your mega budget push from Microsoft, I'm still astounded/disgusted in the amount of hype that surounds the RubyOnRails camp. did you know that 37Signals has done a deal with Apple so the next version of OS-X comming out will have RonR included on every copy, ready to install and run? sure you can still get it off the website, but think of the kudos. A (kind of broken) version of Ruby already ships with OSX. If you're installing ROR on a mac you've got a couple of extra stages of dicking around to complete the install. I've been looking into ROR in regards to some of my price sensitive clients for a while now. The overwhleming majority of Australian business is SME, and its always an uphill battle to sell Bob on the cost of CFHosting, or god forbid if Bob's application requirements mean that a shared/relatively cheap hosting environment won't really work out all that well. I'd love to work with enterprise level clients who are keen to roll out robust solutions with a budget where the spend money to save money axiom holds water. But its oh so rare to find that sort of gig lately. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: WOT (THE): Ok, it's official, Soccer is a farse
To quote the radio earlier this afternoon - Is there an Aussie playing at Wimbledon? How long till the next origin match? On 6/27/06, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Soccer? whats that.. Forgotten already. Actually I watched the brazil v australia game from munich and the australia v croatia game from an aussie bar in amsterdam awesome atmosphere then back to work today. I think I got off the soccer train at the right time lol M@ On 6/26/06, Chris Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FIFA Referees are poo heads. -- Cheers Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: [OT] Hosting Brisbane
www.webcentral.com.au - they are not cheap, but they have everything you're after. They can set up a round robin DNS config for you as well. You want colo hosting in their Wickam St DC - they give you 24 hour access with a swipe card and biometric registration. They also have TTL's set pretty low (15 minutes) and a 24 hour help desk that can get DNS changes pushed through. Disclaimer - I do have shares in the company, but I don't make any money directly from you putting business through them. On 2/23/06, Gary Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pipenetworks.com.au/ Of course, it all depends on what you want to spend and what you expect for your money - and whatever you mean by flexible. On 2/23/06, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone recommend a good host in Brisbane that allows me to put one of our clients servers in their data centre? I like a place where they are a little flexible, not looking for the biggest but definately one with redundancy and know what they are doing. On a side note, anyone know of any DNS services that are a bit more advanced and for example switch from one IP to another if the host is down? -- Taco Fleur - http://www.pacificfox.com.au Web Design, Web development, Graphic Design and Complete Internet Solutions an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 … -- Cheers Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
