[chromium-dev] Re: browser_tests hang on Win7

2009-09-29 Thread Jeremy Orlow
Yeah, the loader lock is held the entire time while in the DLL main. The lock allows re-entrance, but if you do anything that starts another thread and then tries to dynamically load a DLL you'll get a deadlock. Unfortunately, it's very hard to predict what will cause a dynamic load (or one of

[chromium-dev] Re: browser_tests hang on Win7

2009-09-29 Thread Jay Campan
That OleInitialize/Uninitialize business is there to prevent unbalanced Ole init calls in some cases. I did not realize DllMain was called with the loader lock held. Looks like it could cause deadlocks. I'll make move that code to a separate function invoked before the DLL is unloaded . Jay On

[chromium-dev] Re: browser_tests hang on Win7

2009-09-29 Thread Darin Fisher
Ah, that sounds great. Thanks!-Darin On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Jay Campan jcam...@chromium.org wrote: That OleInitialize/Uninitialize business is there to prevent unbalanced Ole init calls in some cases. I did not realize DllMain was called with the loader lock held. Looks like it

[chromium-dev] Re: [DESIGN DOC] registerProtocolHandler HTML5 API

2009-09-29 Thread brg
Thanks for everyone's comments. I'm replying to Nick's message since he had them rather collected and enumerated. UI: I prefer the infobar, as per the arguments above. I don't think this will happen frequently enough to be annoying. This seems to be the consensus. UI: Should there be user

[chromium-dev] buildbot failure in Chromium on Webkit Builder (dbg), revision 27470

2009-09-29 Thread buildbot
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[chromium-dev] src.chromium.org is down

2009-09-29 Thread Nicolas Sylvain
src.chromium.org is down for a few minutes... while we try to fix the disk error. Sorry for the inconvenience, Nicolas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium Developers mailing list: chromium-dev@googlegroups.com View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe:

[chromium-dev] Re: src.chromium.org is down

2009-09-29 Thread Nicolas Sylvain
The server has been stable enough in the last 20 minutes, so I think it is fixed now. If you have problems with the server today, please let me know. Thanks Nicolas On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Nicolas Sylvain nsylv...@chromium.orgwrote: src.chromium.org is down for a few minutes...

Re: Uber Page Info Window (Was: Re: [chromium-dev] Re: [DESIGN DOC] registerProtocolHandler HTML5 API)

2009-09-29 Thread Evan Martin
I'd like to suggest early on that it's done in HTML for the usual reasons. (And also that there are the usual negatives. Just wanna plant the seed.) In particular, a meta-page page would allow the typical operations on subresource links (click to view; media playing would work in-browser;

Re: Uber Page Info Window (Was: Re: [chromium-dev] Re: [DESIGN DOC] registerProtocolHandler HTML5 API)

2009-09-29 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Good point on HTML. Why not instead make DevTools better/faster/do-what-you-want-them-to-do? :DG On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote: I'd like to suggest early on that it's done in HTML for the usual reasons.  (And also that there are the usual negatives.  

[chromium-dev] buildbot failure in Chromium on Chromium XP, revision 27487

2009-09-29 Thread buildbot
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Re: Uber Page Info Window (Was: Re: [chromium-dev] Re: [DESIGN DOC] registerProtocolHandler HTML5 API)

2009-09-29 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)
Depends if we want it to feel webby or dialoggy. Unsure yet. Good case for either way. Will keep it in mind. -Ben On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote: I'd like to suggest early on that it's done in HTML for the usual reasons.  (And also that there are the

[chromium-dev] gclient fails to update gyp files

2009-09-29 Thread Nebojša Ćirić
This is a (read-only) client that synced without problems 4 days ago. Today gclient sync failed with: running '/usr/bin/python src/build/gyp_chromium' in '/home/nebojsa/chromium' Updating projects from gyp files... Traceback (most recent call last): File src/build/gyp_chromium, line

[chromium-dev] Re: gclient fails to update gyp files

2009-09-29 Thread Thomas Van Lenten
Did you get any errors in the gclient sync? There is an entry for that dir within the DEPs file. TVL On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Nebojša Ćirić c...@chromium.org wrote: This is a (read-only) client that synced without problems 4 days ago. Today gclient sync failed with:

[chromium-dev] [Memory] Help with v8::Context::DetachGlobal, please

2009-09-29 Thread Jens Alfke
A big V8/DOM memory leak I was chasing down turns out to be not a real leak, it's just that it takes five full GCs after closing a document for its resources to be freed. I'd been getting bored after two GCs, so it wasn't till Ivan mentioned the stickiness of the generated- function caches

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Jonas Klink (Google)
+ CC Scott and Evan, to maintain a good story cross-platform. Any suggestions for a keyboard model here? I'd really like to stay away from the long, complex keyboard combos, also because noone will ever discover that they are there... - Jonas On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Mohamed Mansour

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Kasting
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org wrote: CTRL+SHIFT+T --- Main Toolbar CTRL+SHIFT+B --- Main Bookmarks bar CTRL+SHIFT+E --- Extension bar I really don't like this. These are hard to discover and use. Besides, you can't use two of these three: ctrl-shift-t

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Evan Martin
I find our accessibility story a bit confusing since we don't allow most of the browser UI to be focused. That is, pressing tab in the URL bar doesn't do what tab normally does. I guess there's some other key that puts the browser into accessible mode? In that case, I would want to reuse that

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Scott Violet
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org wrote: CTRL+SHIFT+T  --- Main Toolbar CTRL+SHIFT+B --- Main Bookmarks bar CTRL+SHIFT+E --- Extension bar I really don't like this.  These are hard

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)
Indeed. We need to be very careful not to over-use keyboard shortcuts. We will regret it later if we do. -Ben On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Scott Violet s...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:51 PM,

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Nico Weber
FWIW, on OS X there's a system setting for Tab cycles through everything or just important things in sysprefs-accessibility (I think. Not at my mac right now). On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Scott Violet s...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Peter Kasting

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Kasting
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Scott Violet s...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: It seems like when these bars are open, their contents should be in the tab order. You should be able to tab through the contents of a page,

[chromium-dev] Re: gclient fails to update gyp files

2009-09-29 Thread Nebojša Ćirić
The only error I get when invoking gclient sync is one I already posted. I've tried updating depot_tools but it's already at the latest revision. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Thomas Van Lenten thoma...@chromium.orgwrote: Did you get any errors in the gclient sync? There is an entry for

[chromium-dev] Re: [Memory] Help with v8::Context::DetachGlobal, please

2009-09-29 Thread Jens Alfke
On Sep 29, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Anton Muhin wrote: This 5 number looks really odd. Do you have a simple way to reproduce it? I'd love to have a look. Ivan suggested to me that it might take five to ten GCs; he said something about cached generated (JITted?) functions that have a context

[chromium-dev] OCMock landed in third_party

2009-09-29 Thread Mike Pinkerton
I just finished landing OCMock (http://www.mulle-kybernetik.com/software/OCMock/) into third_party. From their homepage: OCMock is an Objective-C implementation of mock objects. If you are unfamiliar with the concept of mock objects please visit mockobjects.com which has more details and

[chromium-dev] Re: [Memory] Help with v8::Context::DetachGlobal, please

2009-09-29 Thread Anton Muhin
Jens, thanks a lot, I'd have a look (most probably tomorrow). If anyone would learn something new about this, please, let me know. yours, anton. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Jens Alfke s...@google.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Anton Muhin wrote: This 5 number looks really

[chromium-dev] Try-ing WebKit patches (was WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th)

2009-09-29 Thread Eric Seidel
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Yaar Schnitman y...@chromium.org wrote: 1. An internal webkit chromium port try bot: Will help test webkit-only patches. At first stage, it will test build failures (saving many of us the need to manually test on 3 platforms), but later will also conduct

[chromium-dev] WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th

2009-09-29 Thread Yaar Schnitman
Hi, As some of you probably noticed, fundamental changes are underway in how we build and integrate webkit into chromium. Here is a status update and some answers for frequently asked questions: *Recent changes:* 1. Chromium now builds using gyp files living on the webkit.org tree (WebCore.gyp

[chromium-dev] Re: using upstream webkit's git repo in chrome

2009-09-29 Thread Drew Wilson
I'm trying to follow these suggestions, but I'm getting a ton of errors when trying to do a gclient sync when third_party/WebKit is a clone of git.webkit.org. For example: svn: '/Users/atwilson/chrome.git/src/third_party/WebKit/WebKitLibraries' is not a working copy Error: Can't update/checkout

[chromium-dev] Re: gclient fails to update gyp files

2009-09-29 Thread Nebojša Ćirić
Still the same message (after gclient sync --force). On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Mark Mentovai m...@chromium.org wrote: gclient may have gotten confused in a previous run. Try gclient sync --force and let us know if you still have a problem with that. Mark

[chromium-dev] Re: gclient fails to update gyp files

2009-09-29 Thread Nick Carter
FWIW, on my (healthy) client, svn info inside of the native_client dir looks like: ncarter /cygdrive/d/src/crgit/src/native_client/src $ svn info Path: . URL: http://nativeclient.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/native_client/src Repository Root: http://nativeclient.googlecode.com/svn Repository

[chromium-dev] Re: using upstream webkit's git repo in chrome

2009-09-29 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
You've hit the laziness landmine :) The instructions on http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/UsingWebKitGit go like this: 1) see how to change your .gclient on http://dev.chromium.org/developers/contributing-to-webkit (that is, add the big custom_deps hunk) 2) then change first line to Webkit:

[chromium-dev] Re: gclient fails to update gyp files

2009-09-29 Thread Nebojša Ćirić
Hi Nick, As Chris said, src/native_client is missing from the trunk (and I don't have it in my client). Cira On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Nick Carter n...@chromium.org wrote: FWIW, on my (healthy) client, svn info inside of the native_client dir looks like: ncarter

[chromium-dev] Re: gclient fails to update gyp files

2009-09-29 Thread Thomas Van Lenten
It's not in src.chromium.org, it comes in via DEPS: src/native_client: http://nativeclient.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/native_cli...@797;, TVL On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Nebojša Ćirić c...@chromium.org wrote: Hi Nick, As Chris said, src/native_client is missing from the trunk

[chromium-dev] Re: gclient fails to update gyp files

2009-09-29 Thread Nebojša Ćirić
That was it. Removing the line from .gclient makes gclient work again (and it sinks a lot of native_client code). Cira On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Nicolas Sylvain nsylv...@chromium.orgwrote: you need to edit your .gclient and remove the line that says: src/native_client: None Is

[chromium-dev] Re: gclient fails to update gyp files

2009-09-29 Thread Nicolas Sylvain
you need to edit your .gclient and remove the line that says: src/native_client: None Is native_client really required? Why? We don't want to build this by default, do we? it's too big and it does not fit in the tarball, so it has been excluded there. Nicolas On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:40

[chromium-dev] Re: Try-ing WebKit patches (was WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th)

2009-09-29 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Eric Seidel esei...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Yaar Schnitman y...@chromium.org wrote: 1. An internal webkit chromium port try bot: Will help test webkit-only patches. At first stage, it will test build failures (saving many of

[chromium-dev] Re: using upstream webkit's git repo in chrome

2009-09-29 Thread Yaar Schnitman
Evan, now that we have .gyp files living in the third_party/WebKit, sync-webkit-git.py will need to run the gyp_chromium or gclient runhooks --force when its done updating webkit. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dimitri Glazkov dglaz...@chromium.orgwrote: You've hit the laziness landmine :)

[chromium-dev] Re: WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th

2009-09-29 Thread Evan Martin
Q. Does this mean you can build a libwebkit.so independently of Chrome? On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Yaar Schnitman y...@chromium.org wrote: Hi, As some of you probably noticed, fundamental changes are underway in how we build and integrate webkit into chromium. Here is a status update

[chromium-dev] Re: gclient fails to update gyp files

2009-09-29 Thread Bradley Nelson
The idea is that nacl will be baked in, and eventually be active by default.They've pared things down a good bit already. How far out of the ballpark is this on size? -BradN On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Nicolas Sylvain nsylv...@chromium.orgwrote: you need to edit your .gclient and

[chromium-dev] Re: gclient fails to update gyp files

2009-09-29 Thread Thomas Van Lenten
We could also make the tarball script remove the None dep at the end so on a sync the person gets the bits? TVL On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Bradley Nelson bradnel...@google.comwrote: The idea is that nacl will be baked in, and eventually be active by default.They've pared things down a

[chromium-dev] Re: Try-ing WebKit patches (was WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th)

2009-09-29 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Eric Seidel esei...@chromium.orgwrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Yaar Schnitman y...@chromium.org wrote: 1. An internal webkit chromium port try bot: Will help test

[chromium-dev] Re: Try-ing WebKit patches (was WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th)

2009-09-29 Thread Marc-Antoine Ruel
+Dimitri, who is doing that and didn't put Jeremy in the loop. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Eric Seidel esei...@chromium.org wrote: On

[chromium-dev] Re: [Memory] Help with v8::Context::DetachGlobal, please

2009-09-29 Thread Erik Kay
It might be better to ask this on v8-dev. Erik On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Jens Alfke s...@google.com wrote: A big V8/DOM memory leak I was chasing down turns out to be not a real leak, it's just that it takes five full GCs after closing a document for its resources to be freed. I'd

[chromium-dev] Re: WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th

2009-09-29 Thread Jeremy Orlow
That is one of the goals of creating and upstreaming the WebKit API. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote: Q. Does this mean you can build a libwebkit.so independently of Chrome? On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Yaar Schnitman y...@chromium.org wrote: Hi,

[chromium-dev] Re: WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th

2009-09-29 Thread David Levin
Q: When I change src/DEPS, do I also have to change upstream third_party/WebKit/WebKit/chromium/DEPS? A: It depends why you update src/DEPS. Theoretically, you should only update the upstream DEPS if the fix to the dependency actually changes the way webkit interacts with it, or fixes a

[chromium-dev] Re: Try-ing WebKit patches (was WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th)

2009-09-29 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Honestly -- haven't been actually doing anything in the past 3 weeks. Still an AI to write up a proposal :) :DG On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Marc-Antoine Ruel mar...@chromium.org wrote: +Dimitri, who is doing that and didn't put Jeremy in the loop. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Jeremy

[chromium-dev] buildbot failure in Chromium on Chromium Builder (dbg), revision 27528

2009-09-29 Thread buildbot
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[chromium-dev] Re: WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th

2009-09-29 Thread Darin Fisher
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM, David Levin le...@google.com wrote: Q: When I change src/DEPS, do I also have to change upstream third_party/WebKit/WebKit/chromium/DEPS? A: It depends why you update src/DEPS. Theoretically, you should only update the upstream DEPS if the fix to the

[chromium-dev] buildbot failure in Chromium on Linux Builder (ChromeOS), revision 27535

2009-09-29 Thread buildbot
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[chromium-dev] Green tree task force: How to try upstream Windows layout tests?

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Kasting
I figure this question is most suited for the Green Tree folks. Ojan told me today that he had a patch to fix one of my pet peeve bugs in WebKit, but he hadn't committed it because it would affect the results of the Windows layout tests and he didn't have an easy way to test and rebaseline them.

[chromium-dev] Re: Green tree task force: How to try upstream Windows layout tests?

2009-09-29 Thread Marc-Antoine Ruel
If I understand correctly, you're asking for a webkit try server? And in particular a apple windows builder/tester. M-A On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: I figure this question is most suited for the Green Tree folks. Ojan told me today that he had a

[chromium-dev] Re: [DESIGN DOC] registerProtocolHandler HTML5 API

2009-09-29 Thread Nick Baum
Thanks for the response, comments inline. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:44 AM, brg b...@chromium.org wrote: Thanks for everyone's comments. I'm replying to Nick's message since he had them rather collected and enumerated. UI: I prefer the infobar, as per the arguments above. I don't think

[chromium-dev] Re: Green tree task force: How to try upstream Windows layout tests?

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Kasting
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Marc-Antoine Ruel mar...@chromium.orgwrote: If I understand correctly, you're asking for a webkit try server? And in particular a apple windows builder/tester. I think so, something that builds the Apple Windows port and runs its layout tests. Or else

[chromium-dev] Re: Green tree task force: How to try upstream Windows layout tests?

2009-09-29 Thread Marc-Antoine Ruel
I don't think it'd be very hard, I didn't know this was a wanted feature. M-A On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Marc-Antoine Ruel mar...@chromium.org wrote: If I understand correctly, you're asking for a webkit try

[chromium-dev] Re: Green tree task force: How to try upstream Windows layout tests?

2009-09-29 Thread Eric Seidel
WebKit has talked about try servers for a very long time. But none have been made. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29062 is the most recent discussion about this that I remember. Mark Rowe mr...@apple runs build.webkit.org to my knowledge. -eric On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:50 PM,

[chromium-dev] Re: Green tree task force: How to try upstream Windows layout tests?

2009-09-29 Thread Jeremy Orlow
This would be a VERY VERY VERY useful feature. Especially if we wanted to open try server access up to other WebKit committers. Many Apple engineers also have difficult testing their patches against Windows and simply commit, watch the WebKit build bots, and iterate. For that matter, having mac

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Mohamed Mansour
What kind of accelerators do would you like to have? Maybe have a accelerator that traverses only toolbars, and once we are in that toolbar, we can tab through the widgets. -Mohamed On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM,

[chromium-dev] [linux] even faster builds: webkit without debug symbols

2009-09-29 Thread Evan Martin
I added a section to the LinuxFasterBuilds wiki on another trick for faster builds. This reportedly makes linking and starting gdb about twice as fast, but only works if you're not debugging WebKit. http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxFasterBuilds#Build_WebKit_without_debug_symbols

[chromium-dev] Re: Kiosk Mode for Chrome

2009-09-29 Thread Mohamed Mansour
Peter is giving excellent comments, and he raised an important question regarding what makes me decide what gets blocked. I have some questions to ask the group and others who are interested. What would you want Kiosk to block? I am currently trying to block the following areas: - Save page

[chromium-dev] Re: Kiosk Mode for Chrome

2009-09-29 Thread Brett Wilson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: I'm guessing different people/companies will have different needs for a kiosk mode. Maybe all of these should be separate flags rather than one kiosk flag?  We could then offer recommendations in a Chromium for kiosks

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Scott Violet
I would just use the existing accelerator we have to focus the toolbar. -Scott On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org wrote: What kind of accelerators do would you like to have? Maybe have a accelerator that traverses only toolbars, and once we are in that

[chromium-dev] Re: Kiosk Mode for Chrome

2009-09-29 Thread Jeremy Orlow
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Brett Wilson bre...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: I'm guessing different people/companies will have different needs for a kiosk mode. Maybe all of these should be separate flags rather than one

[chromium-dev] Re: Kiosk Mode for Chrome

2009-09-29 Thread Brett Wilson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Brett Wilson bre...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: I'm guessing different people/companies will have different needs for a

[chromium-dev] Re: Kiosk Mode for Chrome

2009-09-29 Thread Jacob Mandelson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 04:37:46PM -0700, Jeremy Orlow wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Brett Wilson bre...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org wrote: I'm guessing different people/companies will have different needs for a kiosk

[chromium-dev] Re: WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th

2009-09-29 Thread David Levin
What about the override approach that I mentioned? Have the dependency listed in webkit alone. If you need to roll the deps before rolling webkit, add a line in the chromium deps that overrides the one from webkit. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue,

[chromium-dev] Re: [linux] even faster builds: webkit without debug symbols

2009-09-29 Thread Evan Stade
hahaha Scons Tricks Avoid Scons entirely -- Evan Stade On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote: I added a section to the LinuxFasterBuilds wiki on another trick for faster builds. This reportedly makes linking and starting gdb about twice as fast, but only

[chromium-dev] Re: [linux] even faster builds: webkit without debug symbols

2009-09-29 Thread Evan Martin
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Evan Stade est...@chromium.org wrote: Scons Tricks Avoid Scons entirely Make build still isn't reliable enough to stick on a buildbot. :( But now that gyp has a test suite progress is rapid! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Chromium

[chromium-dev] Re: Kiosk Mode for Chrome

2009-09-29 Thread Marc-Antoine Ruel
I think I'm right to say that a lot of the knobs stated by Mohamed can be achieved with content script. Everything that can be done with javascript for this particular use case should be done as javascript. For example, destroying the window.print prototype. I think you try to block to many

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Mohamed Mansour
What would differentiate which toolbar is currently focused? Would it be ideal to assume the first widget in that toolbar would be focused (hotkeyed), or we would draw some sort of ring around the whole toolbar? -Mohamed On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Jonas Klink (Google)

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Ben Goodger (Google)
Building on what we already have sounds good to me. -Ben On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Jonas Klink (Google) kl...@chromium.org wrote: So, to clarify, we would then use ALT+SHIFT+T (currently focusing the toolbar), to cycle keyboard focus through any open toolbars (toolbar-bookmark

[chromium-dev] Re: Kiosk Mode for Chrome

2009-09-29 Thread Mohamed Mansour
How about in kiosk mode, we only hide the status bubble, control the command dispatchers, and we leave the context menu as it is. That will solve most of the issues and not complicate things. Windows defined it pretty simple, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/154780, they can open new windows,

[chromium-dev] Re: Chrome Keyboard Access, opinions?

2009-09-29 Thread Jonas Klink (Google)
From an accessibility point-of-view, I'd prefer having the first widget in each toolbar focused when the toolbar itself gains focus (including hottracked and displaying any tooltip that is displayed on mouseover of this widget). On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org

[chromium-dev] Re: WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th

2009-09-29 Thread Darin Fisher
That's basically what we had before. You can add entries to a DEPS file that have the value From(foo), and that causes the value of the entry to be taken from the path foo/DEPS, where foo is a directory at the same level as the directory containing the DEPS file that mentioned From(foo).

[chromium-dev] Re: WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th

2009-09-29 Thread Darin Fisher
That seems optional to me. I don't see why it matters that much. The canary bots will still be using DEPS from svn.chromium.org, so we should get sufficient coverage there. That will allow us to be confident about updating WebKit, right? The upstream builder is first and foremost designed to

[chromium-dev] Re: WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th

2009-09-29 Thread Darin Fisher
Yeah, good point... this could be a good task for gardeners. Perhaps we could have a tool help us here.-Darin On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Dmitry Titov dim...@chromium.org wrote: It seems that if the deps were the same though, the rolls would be on average less breaking because at least

[chromium-dev] Re: WebKit Chromium Port Update Sep 29th

2009-09-29 Thread David Levin
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote: Yeah, good point... this could be a good task for gardeners. Perhaps we could have a tool help us here. Maybe there could be a test run on the canary that checks the DEPS to see if they have the same versions, and if